Axel Too Harsh?

[Nanaki]

Do you guys think Axel was a little TOO harsh in RE:COM? I'm kinda struck with a mix of emotions about it. I kinda think he was a little too evil, at the same time as I don't. The ways he had Zexion and Vexen killed were...REALLY intense. And yet he's sympathetic and likable in KHII. So, what do you guys think? Was he too harsh? Or was he..not too harsh??

[libregkd]

Axel, in the original CoM was the same way. He became a sympathetic wuss in II. Which is why CoM Axel>>>KH2 Axel.

His character was much more enjoyable in CoM.

[Nanaki]

Axel, in the original CoM was the same way. He became a sympathetic wuss in II. Which is why CoM Axel>>>KH2 Axel.

His character was much more enjoyable in CoM.

Uhh..the question is do you think that he was too harsh in RE:COM....

[libregkd]

I thought that could of easily interpreted out of that post.....guess not. I'll say it simply then, No he wasn't to harsh at all.

[lullaby13]

im not sure,he could of at least let them put up a fight, now THAT would be enjoyable! :)

[libregkd]

im not sure,he could of at least let them put up a fight, now THAT would be enjoyable! :)
Yea(with the exception of Vexen, I love the execution) because the Axel vs Marluxia fight was enjoyable to watch.....even if it was exceptionally short.

[Roxas]

No way was he harsh, he was awesome. The Axel in KHII was a wimpy pussy.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

nah he wasn't too harsh... he was just doin' his job. I suppose he could've let them die slowly & more painfully but that would take too long.

[Kiryu]

I think this tough as nails Axel that would kill and then just laugh about. In kh2 since he got to see Roxas again he turned into a wuss.

[Nanaki]

nah he wasn't too harsh... he was just doin' his job. I suppose he could've let them die slowly & more painfully but that would take too long.

Well, Zexion died slowly. He was slowly drained by Riku Replica...

[Emo Pengwin]

Well, Zexion died slowly. He was slowly drained by Riku Replica...
Axel= pwnage either way you look at it.

He was not harsh in CoM...

But he DID turn into a "wimpy pussy" in KHII as Roxas put it.

[Mish]

He wasn't too harsh, I think he was uber cool.

But he was NOT a 'wimpy pussy' in KH2. xD

[Roxas-]

Nah, he's cool.:cool: :cool:

Hm. He was a wimpy mouse in KhII!

[zexionXienzo6]

i think Axel was on crack in COM... he looked possesed all the time!

[Nanaki]

i think Axel was on crack in COM... he looked possesed all the time!

lol..he kinda did, didn't he? Anyways, I just HATE how he killed Zexion and Vexen. Vexen begged for his life..and Zexion was pained, so Axel sicked Riku Relkica on him...I think that was harsh....

[Love]

The problemo is that Axel has no heart , he can't tell what is good or bad.

[zexionXienzo6]

lol..he kinda did, didn't he? Anyways, I just HATE how he killed Zexion and Vexen. Vexen begged for his life..and Zexion was pained, so Axel sicked Riku Relkica on him...I think that was harsh....

YEAH! how dare he kill Zexion!!! that was awful!

[Nanaki]

YEAH! how dare he kill Zexion!!! that was awful!

It's because he killed Vexen and Zexion..and the way he did it..I think he was too harsh in it....

[zexionXienzo6]

It's because he killed Vexen and Zexion..and the way he did it..I think he was too harsh in it....

he was like a killing machine! yeah it was WAY too harsh... he exploded Vexen and like drained Zexion....

[Nanaki]

he was like a killing machine! yeah it was WAY too harsh... he exploded Vexen and like drained Zexion....

EXACTLY!! And it seems everyone who said he wasn't harsh LIKED the way he killed them...eh, oh well.

I think he was too harsh though, cool, but harsh. Gawd..I cried the first time I saw both scenes...

[zexionXienzo6]

EXACTLY!! And it seems everyone who said he wasn't harsh LIKED the way he killed them...eh, oh well.

I think he was too harsh though, cool, but harsh. Gawd..I cried the first time I saw both scenes...

heh! i don't usually cry but it was sad.:(

[Nanaki]

heh! i don't usually cry but it was sad.:(

Yeah..Vexen, when he jumped back and Axel just snapped his fingers, and Vexen lit up in flames...I was shocked. (I never beat COM...I got stuck on Dragon Melificent...)

[Shikon]

Axel in CoM = AWESOMENESS~ <3
AXel in KH2 = wimpy [but hot] pussy. XD
Yeah, Axel was SUPER harsh when it came to Zexion's death and Vexen's. In KH2 he seemed more like he had a heart and he was oddly sympathetic. But in CoM, he DID seem possesed or... something. I mean 'cmon... he made Vexen go "kaboom". Sure, I laughed that Vexen exploded, but then I was like, "Woah. Did Axel JUST do that?" It seemed odd considered I played KH2 and only watched the custcenes from CoM afterwards.

[zexionXienzo6]

i think Roxas made Axel more squishy and warm and whimpy in KH2.

[Nanaki]

i think Roxas made Axel more squishy and warm and whimpy in KH2.

I agree...but that didn't sound right..>.>;

[zexionXienzo6]

I agree...but that didn't sound right..>.>;

*cracks up* that made me laugh! you're right it doesn't sound right!

[Nanaki]

*cracks up* that made me laugh! you're right it doesn't sound right!

Well..it doesn't!!

Anyways, WHAT THE HELL DID ZEXION DO?!! I don't get why Axel killed him!!

[Oerba Yun Fang]

Well..it doesn't!!

Anyways, WHAT THE HELL DID ZEXION DO?!! I don't get why Axel killed him!!

Perhaps so that Replica Riku may be strong enough to kill the real Riku? Who knows...

[Nanaki]

Perhaps so that Replica Riku may be strong enough to kill the real Riku? Who knows...

Yeah...but it's still stupidly cruel.....*sniff*

[Oerba Yun Fang]

Yeah...but it's still stupidly cruel.....*sniff*

well the Org.XIII are a bunch of crule nobodies... remember no hearts. They don't care.

[Nanaki]

well the Org.XIII are a bunch of crule nobodies... remember no hearts. They don't care.

I believe they do have hearts....why would they want Kingdom Hearts? They can't experience Want without feeling..right?

[Oerba Yun Fang]

I believe they do have hearts....why would they want Kingdom Hearts? They can't experience Want without feeling..right?

i thought that but, perhaps they don't care about each other.

[Nanaki]

i thought that but, perhaps they don't care about each other.

If they didn't care, why would they be together? Why would they have bothered making The Organization in the first place?? (BTW, we are going off-topic...)

[Oerba Yun Fang]

If they didn't care, why would they be together? Why would they have bothered making The Organization in the first place?? (BTW, we are going off-topic...)

they are simply using each other to regain their hearts.
As for Axel he may of killed Zexion as he may have seen it in his best interests.

[Nanaki]

they are simply using each other to regain their hearts.
As for Axel he may of killed Zexion as he may have seen it in his best interests.

But why? Vexen was giving everything away..I understand that...(that was still too harsh). But why Zexion?? He didn't do ANYTHING!!!

[darkriku]

well first of all Axel didn't like the rest of the org members in Com and in KH2 Axel was singing a different tune because his best friend left him and the org is trying to control sora again also we only know a little bit of the story behind some of the org members maybe them and Axel went deeper than suspected I mean the video game doesn't say every thing

[Nanaki]

well first of all Axel didn't like the rest of the org members in Com and in KH2 Axel was singing a different tune because his best friend left him and the org is trying to control sora again also we only know a little bit of the story behind some of the org members maybe them and Axel went deeper than suspected I mean the video game doesn't say every thing

Damn..good point. I still say Axel was too harsh..>.>

[Oerba Yun Fang]

Axel is a killer... it's what he does.

[Nanaki]

Axel is a killer... it's what he does.

*Shruggs* Well...whatever. I still say he was too harsh, either way....

[*TwilightNight*]

The members in COM were only trying to get take out the Org., it was corrupted anyway. Of course, doing it in a unethical way, but the fact still stands.

I do think Axel was too harsh. Way too much. Zexion didn't deserve the way he died at all, he didn't look or did anything extremely evil. As for Vexen, I got so upset over that scene, especially since he was trying to help Sora and was begging for his life. Even Sora was horrified. That was the saddest Org. death for me. Axel needed to gain their trust, and there was no other way for him to except to do what Marluxia asked him to.

Still, he could have given Vexen a simpler death. Damn it, Axel, respect your elders!

The only one who he didn't directly kill is Larxene, maybe because with his time in Org. she was probably the other member who daily talked (or flirted) to him other than Roxas. They seemed to get along really well, sharing, having talks and all that. I think he was expecting her death, so he didn't have to do anything by himself. And Marluxia too, but they didn't seem on good terms in the first place, added to the fact that it was his trust Axel was trying to gain.

I did see some compassion throughout though, and some geunine honesty on helping, as rare as it was. Especially when he was talking to Larxene about how Sora's "a part of us", which was indirectly talking about Roxas. Axel did say that Roxas was the only one who made him "feel like he had a heart."

And that's what happened when he heard about what's being done to him in KHII again, I'm guessing.

[Dawn]

The Re:CoM is harsher than CoM. That I have to admit. Following orders to gain trust. He's basically a double-agent so he's worthy to assassinate other members. Zexion did say something about the Organization going kinky.

Not only he has become mushy, but he has a reason to live than the rest of the members. To see his best friend.

[RRMS]

im not really sure whether he was harsh or not in re:Com....

[Nanaki]

The members in COM were only trying to get take out the Org., it was corrupted anyway. Of course, doing it in a unethical way, but the fact still stands.

I do think Axel was too harsh. Way too much. Zexion didn't deserve the way he died at all, he didn't look or did anything extremely evil. As for Vexen, I got so upset over that scene, especially since he was trying to help Sora and was begging for his life. Even Sora was horrified. That was the saddest Org. death for me. Axel needed to gain their trust, and there was no other way for him to except to do what Marluxia asked him to.

Still, he could have given Vexen a simpler death. Damn it, Axel, respect your elders!

The only one who he didn't directly kill is Larxene, maybe because with his time in Org. she was probably the other member who daily talked (or flirted) to him other than Roxas. They seemed to get along really well, sharing, having talks and all that. I think he was expecting her death, so he didn't have to do anything by himself. And Marluxia too, but they didn't seem on good terms in the first place, added to the fact that it was his trust Axel was trying to gain.

I did see some compassion throughout though, and some geunine honesty on helping, as rare as it was. Especially when he was talking to Larxene about how Sora's "a part of us", which was indirectly talking about Roxas. Axel did say that Roxas was the only one who made him "feel like he had a heart."

And that's what happened when he heard about what's being done to him in KHII again, I'm guessing.

The Re:CoM is harsher than CoM. That I have to admit. Following orders to gain trust. He's basically a double-agent so he's worthy to assassinate other members. Zexion did say something about the Organization going kinky.

Not only he has become mushy, but he has a reason to live than the rest of the members. To see his best friend.



DAMN!! AWESOME points there!! Yeah..he was pretty much double agenting...in really cruel ways. I never finshed COM, but yeah, it seems like (from what I've seen), that Axel was harsher. This is why I don't get why he suddenly turned kinder in KHII....now THAT confuses me.....

[Jordier0xs0x]

Aww come on guys.... Axel wasint wimpy in Kingdom hearts II....Okay maybe he was a little but He was just trying to get is friend back...is that so hard?

No i dont think he was too harsh in CoM although he could of been a little more nicer

[libregkd]

The Re:CoM is harsher than CoM. That I have to admit. Following orders to gain trust. He's basically a double-agent so he's worthy to assassinate other members. Zexion did say something about the Organization going kinky.

Not only he has become mushy, but he has a reason to live than the rest of the members. To see his best friend.
I actually think CoM is harsher. I would rather be burned to death instead of beeing slashed at the neck :/

[Kaitou Sai]

I actually think CoM is harsher. I would rather be burned to death instead of beeing slashed at the neck :/

i would have to dissagree with you, being slased at the neck is normaly the quickest

quick= less pain

[Roxas-]

Hmm. I think Axel is real cool in Re:CoM.

[Peyton]

I don't think he was that harsh.
He had to do something in re:com or else the organization would be on his neck.
And in khII he has changed a bit, but that only because he is starting making his own choices.
I think it is a good way , making the players watch him change.

[Mr_Burble]

I didn't really like how he killed Vexen or Zexion... >.> But he was freaking awsome in CoM and Re:CoM. He pretty much destroyed the so-called "Kiddy atmosphere" KH had. He was killing people off the Yin-yang in CoM. O.O

[Nanaki]

I didn't really like how he killed Vexen or Zexion... >.> But he was freaking awsome in CoM and Re:CoM. He pretty much destroyed the so-called "Kiddy atmosphere" KH had. He was killing people off the Yin-yang in CoM. O.O

That's why I think he was too harsh....they should have made the game T rated....>.>;

[libregkd]

That's why I think he was too harsh....they should have made the game T rated....>.>;
There was nothing in this game that warranted a T rating though.

[Nanaki]

There was nothing in this game that warranted a T rating though.

I'm just worried about the 7 year olds...that's all....

[libregkd]

I'm just worried about the 7 year olds...that's all....
Every game has someone dying though.

[Love]

I don't think Axel was that harsh anyways , the Kingdom Hearts series needs some kick into it. It can't always be happy , happy , joy , joy in a good way.

[Nanaki]

Every game has someone dying though.

I know...what I'm saying is the way Axel killed Vexen and Zexion was a little too extreme..in my opinion. Again, I'm worried about the little kids.

[libregkd]

I know...what I'm saying is the way Axel killed Vexen and Zexion was a little too extreme..in my opinion. Again, I'm worried about the little kids.
Well, there was no major outbreak when Axel said "hell" in CoM. Vexen died just like any other Nobody.He wasn't "burned"(as in his body wasn't burned) he just disappeared. Even less for Zexion, all he does is get picked up off the ground.

[Spitfire]

NO he could have been harsher in my opinion, his title was the assasin anyways so not harsh at all.

[zexionXienzo6]

he's mean!:(

[libregkd]

he's mean!:(
Though extremely awesome. It was Com that make he like Axel. And it was KH2 that made me hate him.

[Larxene XII]

i loved it when Axel killed Vexen cuz i couldnt stand that guy he was really annoying but when Axel killed Zexy. That was going to far. Zexion is my second fave member behind Larxene. He was cute and he did nothing to Axel at all. Axel was just being mean!!:(

[libregkd]

He had to though or he would of been punished. If Zexion told Xemnas that Axel killed Vexen, who knows what might of happened.

[Emo Pengwin]

Yeah...

-shutters-

[Jaxed]

As for the reason Axel became nicer in KH2......he found love......rofl..........seriously, though, I do believe Roxas changed Axel. For all we know, it may have been Roxas who convinced him to stop killing.....

[Emo Pengwin]

As for the reason Axel became nicer in KH2......he found love......rofl..........seriously, though, I do believe Roxas changed Axel. For all we know, it may have been Roxas who convinced him to stop killing.....

This...made...me...laugh...

[Axel Dance of Flames]

He could been alot harsher in my opinon, I like dark characters, if they are too bubblegum sweet like Sora I tend to get annoyed really easily that wahat I liked about Rikun too he wasn't soo nice and clean cut, Axel being a bobody and assassin could have been worse in my opinon.

[Jaxed]

Hey, at least Axel didn't go all emo and kill all of the Organization members.....

[Nanaki]

Hey, at least Axel didn't go all emo and kill all of the Organization members.....

He probly would have if he had the chance...>.>;

[John Clay Rice]

He was trying to kill Riku by disguising himself as Sora and attackted him.

[Ienzo]

Axel was really harsh I think but he killed Vexen because he was going to tell Sora something secret (can't remember what it was at the moment) and I haven't got to the part where he kills Zexion yet.

[Blue Reflection]

Axel did sound harsh in CoM but he looks cool when in KH2

[VideoGameNerd246]

librekd and Roxas are right. =/

[Lisaralin]

Axel was really harsh I think but he killed Vexen because he was going to tell Sora something secret
Yes, but Vexen wasn't betraying the Organization in my opinion, he was working aganst Marluxia, who was the real traitor!! Axel killed Vexen only to gain the trust of Marluxia and to have the possibility to act as a double agent......so Axel was working for the Organization too, he also says it in the end, before fighting against Marluxia.....he calls him and Larxene traitors.......but if he was loyal to the Organization at the time, why did he kill Vexen and Zexion, who were loyal too? Killing fellow members is not a good way to help the Organization!!
I know that he needed to gain Marluxia's trust, but............
I can't justify him. Yes, he has no heart, but other Nobodies are not as cruel as him, and they have no heart, too.

Axel is better in KH2! I don't think in CoM he's cool. A murderer is not cool. And he's even a coward, because he kills others only when they are weak and wounded. There's nothing cool in finishing off a person who can't do anything and is defenseless.

[orgXIIIfan]

Spoiler:

Vexen wanted to tell Sora about Marly's plan to use him to overthrow the Organization and tell Sora about Roxas' existance.Axel killed him to gain Marly's trust.

I hope that clears things up.

[Nanaki]

O.o; I thought this thread finally died....okay....I don't mind. It just kinda surprised me...

Anyways, I still say he was harsh. I mean, he couldn't even dirty his own hands when Zexion died, and he didn't touch Vexen, he burned him without giving him a chance....

[Lisaralin]

Harsh, yes, and a coward, too.
Killing people who can't defend themselves is nothing but cowardice.

[Soku]

Harsh, yes, and a coward, too.
Killing people who can't defend themselves is nothing but cowardice.

Do you know how funn y you sound? If you said that in real life then it would be okay, but to a video game char, it just doesn't sound right. Ya'll are forgeting who the bad guys are, Axel is part of the bad guys, which means he must be bad.
Ya'll are just to use to the KH2 Axel to realize his true colors. He's as bad as everyone else in the Org, including Zexion and Vexen.

[Jaxed]

That is probably the most correct version of why Axel did it.......................It wasn't a sudden chage, Axel was just always like that.............

[lookaheartless]

Yeah.

I also can't say I was happy when he did have Zexion killed.

[Dawn]

He didn't even touched Zexy he only pursuaded the Replica to use his power to become a different person, different than Riku. I played that game first so I know how it is supposed to flow.

[Tonks]

I love Axel in CoM. Both.

I mean, he burned Vexen aliveeee. :p

But Zexion's death was harsh, dude.

He like...choked him to death.

[Lisaralin]

Do you know how funn y you sound? If you said that in real life then it would be okay, but to a video game char, it just doesn't sound right. Ya'll are forgeting who the bad guys are, Axel is part of the bad guys, which means he must be bad.
Ya'll are just to use to the KH2 Axel to realize his true colors. He's as bad as everyone else in the Org, including Zexion and Vexen.
I know it's a game, and I know he's a bad guy. But Axel makes me angry. I can't stand bad guys, even in games. In my opinion he's not cool, I can't stand him. Maybe I'm a bit oversensible, but why can't I think so?

[Alpha Sonix]

He wasn't harsh, he was doing his job. He was told to get rid of any traitors and Axel got rid of them, he betrayed half of the Organization, Marluxia, Larxene, Vexen and Zexion.

[Nexit@h XIV]

....I think Axel was harsh...But he was doing his job after all...
I totally agree with you when you said that he's kinda likable and friendly on KHII :)

[Kroshanks]

You know what?If Axel stayed the same way in RE:CoM,maybe people would stop with the motherf***ing yaoi about him.I say it everyday,AXEL IS NOT GAY!

[Nanaki]

You know what?If Axel stayed the same way in RE:CoM,maybe people would stop with the motherf***ing yaoi about him.I say it everyday,AXEL IS NOT GAY!

O.o Woah...anger much? But yes...all the yaoi is insane...I may be an AkuRoku fan...but that doesn't mean I want to see all the mushy ****....

[Lord Knight Xiron]

He was harsh because he was trying to protect Roxas, and he was ordered to take them out. That was basically why he was in Castle Oblivion. I don't think he was overly harsh. Just right!

[libregkd]

He was harsh because he was trying to protect Roxas, and he was ordered to take them out. That was basically why he was in Castle Oblivion. I don't think he was overly harsh. Just right!
He wasn't protecting Roxas o.o

And he was only ordered to take Vexen out....and that order came from a traitor.

[harmaa]

Axel's harshness in CoM was one of my favourite factors about him, and what made me love his character.

[ConfusionGrenade]

I honestly think he was harsher in COM. In my opinion, the writers weren't sure about what they wanted to do with Axel. Perhaps he was originally meant to be a character more like Saix, completely sociopathic and manipulative.

(Hears Axel retching in the background at the thought of almost being Saix)

But he actually seemed a bit less harsh in the remake. In paticular I remember the line he says to Marluxia when flower-boy hides behind Namine. Something to the effect of "You think that's gonna stop me, hell, I'll kill your little mascot too and you can both sink into oblivion." In the remake the line is shortened to "You think that's gonna stop me?"

I pondered the Vexen and Zexion murders myself for a while, because it seemed weird for Axel to kill someone and not directly get something out of it. Even if it was to gain Marluxia's trust and to further his mission for the other Orgy members, Axel doesn't seem to me the type to follow orders unquestioningly. He always has his own agenda. So I wondered why he would bother with Vexen and Zexion. Or why he would even care about foiling Marluxia's plan.

But than I remembered the dusks from KHII, and a lightbulb popped over my head. I figured that the policy with the Orgy is that if you fail, your *** is grass. And if you're ordered to kill the failure and refused to, you can join said failure in the *** grassitude. I think I remember Marluxia saying Vexen's replica was a bust and Vexen begging him not to tell Xemnas. I suppose you either get an A or you flunk, which says a lot for the still living members of XIII.

In other words, for Axel, it's kill or be killed, and the only reason he wasn't sent to kill Larxene and Lexaeus was because they were already dead. Zexion wasn't a traitor, but he wasn't able to defeat Riku.

As for Axel in KHII....nobody's picked up on it yet. I'd die to see a fanfic about the darker nature of AkuRoku's relationship.

People say Axel became a lot softer in KHII, but has anyone noticed the nature of Roxas' and Axel relationship? Did Axel want Roxas around because he cared about him, or because the kid was like a drug? His element was light, after all, and being around the kid may have been the closest thing he had to a heart. There's even hints that Axel was hoping to turn Sora back into a heartless so that Roxas would be with him again. Now, I still have mixed feelings about the whole 'mirging/whole/lose your identity/ thing that comes with the nobodies and somebodies, but if you cared about someone, would you ruin their lives just to see them again? I wonder....

To me, the AkuRoku relationship is heartbreaking, but there's so much to Axel that just seems....possesive. As if he couldn't bare to let the kid go, no matter what happened. Like if he was just a wee bit crazier he'd have the Key of Destiny locked down in his basement somewhere, where he'd never be able to get out.

[Repliku]

I don't think Axel was being harsh. All of the Nobodies at Castle Oblivion were doing things and being pretty rotten to one another, as well as Sora and Riku. Axel was a wildcard and he was also the assassin for the Org and was given an order. He didn't really care about killing Vexen and why are people saying he should have been -nicer- about it? If you have to kill someone, you'd just want to get it over with so Vexen's death to me seemed appropriate for an assassin to do. Also, Sora was right there so the strategy would be to deal with it swiftly so that Axel didn't also have to fight Sora too. That could have sucked, no?

As for why he killed Zexion, or had the Riku Replica do it, is because he knew that 1. the Riku Replica was going to have to die because of how messed up he became with Namine's mind games that Vexen and Marluxia encouraged, and so he knew how to get rid of him, which was to build him up and have Riku take him out. That was so planned. Zexion was not a nice guy. He did try to break Riku and then murder him. That -was- Zexion's plan. Also, after all that Axel had had to do with choices, Zexion had to die. I seriously doubt Axel could have let anyone in the Org live to tell this tale because all of them had foolishly messed with Riku and Sora for personal gain and really at the end it was such a mess, if only he was there to recount things, he might -live-. It was about survival there in the end, as well as being committed to carry out his orders.

Axel really I doubt cared that much for either of the two kids but in the end he knew that what was going on was pointless and it may even be that Xemnas wanted Axel there to get rid of the traitors. After all, anyone who was actually working on plots for Xemnas was out doing them while Marluxia and Vexen both were doing unscrupulous things Xemnas may have figured out early before he went to take his nap. I do think that Zexion, Lexaeus and Larxene kind of were caught up in it all though but they chose their sides. Axel went with no one because he knew it was all going to be stupid and so he played a survivor's game to get around it. He did not really -care- for them and probably would have wished to be anywhere else at the time. However, being as super adaptable as he was, he played his game and ended up on top. Even Xemnas in KH2:FM makes a comment that Axel is a wild card and no one is sure absolutely what he's up to. After his experiences at Castle Oblivion, he did not really tone down though.

Axel was driven in KH2 to try to get Roxas back because he did believe the Nobodies, despite having no Hearts, did have their own lives separate of the whole person so to him, losing Roxas was like Roxas dying. Since Roxas seemed to be the only one he cared about truly, though he did not mind Namine so much, it makes sense that he was going to try to get him back, and yes, he was obsessive about it, which annoyingly makes a ton of stupid RoxasxAxel pairings. Axel was a driven sort of person to survive himself, so of course he'd be that motivated to do the same for Roxas, but in the end he learned that Roxas was better off where he was supposed to be and so helped Sora. I don't consider he was more wussy in KH2 but just more exhausted in the end because he was facing so much soul searching as well as surviving because Saix was trying to get him or get Sora to off Axel and Axel knew it. Axel did have a fear of the Org which was pretty clear when he told Roxas not to leave. All in all, I liked the character and his growth and don't consider him a puss as some people had said, but yes, he became more of a 3-dimensional character in KH2 instead of just being a wild card with no motivations at all.

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Axel, in the original CoM was the same way. He became a sympathetic wuss in II. Which is why CoM Axel>>>KH2 Axel.

His character was much more enjoyable in CoM.

i completely agree with u.

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Axel was sent to the Castle for a mission. To kill the traitors. That is not a problem for him since he wasn't close to any of the other members in the castle, now if it was Roxas it would have changed because that would mean he would have to kill off his best friend.

In COM, Axel did not hesitate to kill Zexion or Vexen, yet if he was that cold of a killer than why did he hesitate to kill Roxas? Simple, they were best friends. Axel was 'sad' to know that Roxas forgotten everything about their 'friendship.' Axel didn't want to resort to violence because he believe he could save Roxas from emerging with Sora.

Now, if Axel was best friends with Zexion, would he had the strength to kill him? That we will never know. But as we can see in KH2 and COM, he is a risk taker, someone who watches what happens and judge it before making his next move, someone who likes not to give a direct answer, someone who doesn't pick sides till the last moment. For all we know, his personality is kinda shroud in mystery because he is always changing and different.

We know that Larxene is cold and cruel because she always acts like that. We know that Saix is extremely loyal to Xemnas because we can see that Saix is close the Superior.

But Axel changes. He is cruel, twisted, kinda cold hearted in COM; but in KH2, he is more kind and puzzling. Like he had a personailty flip.

But that what made Axel more reaslitic. He changes unlike everyone else around him. Kairi is still stubborn and sweet. Sora is still naive and too nice for his own good. In reality, no one stays the same, their personality changes depending on the effects of the world around them. Besides, a lot things can happen in one year...

I hope we can find more answers in KH 365/2, maybe they'll talk about what happened in the Castle.