Child Discipline

[EvilMan_89]

Who thinks that kids need to be spanked to behave?
i personally do, becuz has anyone seen that show on Fox "nanny 911?" notice none of those parents spank their kids and their kids are *****es? and then, *****y kids become.... uh oh.... out of control teenagers. and just asking, does anybody hit kids? i would....if they pissed me off enough

[Zexion of the Twilight]

Yes, the 6th graders in 1st period always go in first and this rude kid pushes me away and goes inside after saying "Out of my way!" <_< Kids nowadays are so rude.

[EvilMan_89]

has anyone been cursed out by a little kid before? thats annoying as hell. why are they so rude now? the answer: not getting the beatdowns that they deserve!!!

EDIT: wat? we can't say the B word? well, that's what kids are, they just don't listen to anybody.

[Zexion of the Twilight]

:D Let's teach em' a lesson.

[kairi007]

I agree most kids are brats but why would u spank them? it seems pretty pointless to me just hit him on the back of the head or put them in a timeout

[Zexion of the Twilight]

Corpral punishment I'd like to give, but kids have a few rights I guess.

[kairi007]

how about if their bad take away all their toys that would make them upset

[Zexion of the Twilight]

I don't exactly go to kids homes and steal all their toys as punishment.

[kairi007]

i would hope not (wasnt a very good idea then)

[Zexion of the Twilight]

Thought so.

[kairi007]

so i guess spanking is a good thing but wat about if their teenagers already?

[Zexion of the Twilight]

The ULTIMATE TORTURE!!! Hey kids, it's Barney and Telitubbies time!!!

[kairi007]

that would work lol

[Zexion of the Twilight]

THAT or "She's no you" by Jessie MCCartney.

[kairi007]

OMG he bug me (the only reason i dont like Roxas)

[ryan9234]

I voted no for spanking, its not going to do anything but make kids hate you for hitting them, you can teach them a lesson without being physical :rolleyes: .

[kairi007]

I voted no for spanking, its not going to do anything but make kids hate you for hitting them, you can teach them a lesson without being physical :rolleyes: .
see thats what i was talking about!

[kairi007]

got to go dont spank kids make them have atimeout or watch tellitubies or listen to jesse mcartnie

[Darkwatch]

I personally think discipline is a good idea -- ON CERTAIN LEVELS.

- If a child misbehaves, punishment is needed, but not in a physical way.

Physical abuse is one of the things I hate to see. My mother and father never do that to me, I came out fine. They told me to do chores, I do chores. It's a simple concept, in my opinion, to just do things. Verbal abuse is nearly as bad. It doesn't hurt you physically but it DOES hurt you emotionally.

That's why in recent month's, I myself was living with my father, and I had to move out because he had a massive breakdown, and we had to leave and come live (where I am now) with my mom. Was there yelling? Yes, in fact, I think it was the worst a 15 year old could possibly hear.

Verbal and physical abuse are not options, in my opinion. And I mean they aren't supposed to be taken into action. I mean, if you don't have the intellegence to figure out a way to vent, then you need help. Writting in notebooks, stressballs, venting with a friend(with words).

Me? I don't approve of these kinds of discipline. Like I approve of time outs, or maybe extra chores for an ignorant action made by the child.

[kairi007]

now that sounds like a good idea

[Claryssa]

I think that children do need to learn some respect; however, physical punishment is not always the answer. I do believe that at times it may be necessary, but only for serious misbehaving. In a lot of cases, talking and timeout just doesn't do the job that needs to be done. I don't believe that spankings should be used as the only form of punishment used. I didn't vote, becuase neither of the choices fit my beliefs. They are too black and white and this issue, like so many others is not a black and white issue.

[Rikku]

kids these days don't have any mannors!......<.<

[Big C]

I voted yes. I believe spanking/corporal punishment is good with limited use. It can emphasize the severity of a transgression in a way that timeout just can't. The parent just has to be careful not to do it too often for too minor things, and also not to hurt the child seriously.

Also, let me add:
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[EvilMan_89]

I agree most kids are brats but why would u spank them? it seems pretty pointless to me just hit him on the back of the head or put them in a timeout

timeout? lol. are u joking? i have seen so many parents try that, and seen how the kids don't care and then they're bad again rite away. i even suggested, "Why don't u just hit him?" and they say "We don't believe in hitting our kids." and i tried so hard not to laugh (their kids are still out of control, lol)

EDIT: wow, i'm so surprised that so many people said no. but i also agree with BigC. u can't do it too much and u can't do it if they didn't do anything THAT bad. but u DO need to do it when ur kid is like hitting YOU (yes, i have seen kids do this and i have suggested hitting them, but they still say no).

[2Foxxxxxxxxxie4U2♥~]

I voted yes. I believe spanking/corporal punishment is good with limited use. It can emphasize the severity of a transgression in a way that timeout just can't. The parent just has to be careful not to do it too often for too minor things, and also not to hurt the child seriously.

Also, let me add:
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XDDDD Agreed. Mah mom spanked me enough so that I knew that she was boss and NOT to be messed with. I don't see it as physical abuse, that's too strong. But I also don't see it as the only way to punish a child.

For instance, once I dropped a plate ON ACCIDENT. Of course she came up and was all, "LEAH! Why'd you do that?! Blah blah blah! Yada yada yada!" Then she got over it, I got over it, and we both went on with our lives. But then, I decided at school that I was gonna run off with my friend at nap time, locked the bathroom, had a couple of wet paper towel fights, and washed my hair in the toilet. (Yes. In the toilet. =\ ) Would a time out would have worked then? I think not. I got it and I got it bad. >.>

And so far this system has worked well. I turned out great and I haven't had a spanking in.. what? 2 years? (Okay, I had one this summer, but that was a mistake, and I'll forgive her fore it. >.>)

[EvilMan_89]

so i guess spanking is a good thing but wat about if their teenagers already?

then u threaten to cancel their cell phone, and then actually do it if they don't stop. if they don't have a cell phone, ground them, and if they go out anyway, they need their a sses kicked. and it feels so good to give a b itchy kid what's coming to them

[Roxas is Hot]

I don't think so. Geez, they're kids. They can get time-outs or get grounded, but spanking's a little out of my league. Although time-outs really don't do much...

[Roxas]

I didn't vote, because they are ridiculous choices. A child can be spanked for doing some things wrong. But the way you put your votes, it seems like they have to get smacked 100% of the time or not.

[EvilMan_89]

yea sry, i thot about having 4 choices, 2 for each but then i decided against it. i dint realize my choices were very extreme to each side. but which one do u prefer?

[Roxas]

In this case, I'd probably prefer that children should recieve punishment in this way when they do something very bad,

[Darkwatch]

I voted yes. I believe spanking/corporal punishment is good with limited use. It can emphasize the severity of a transgression in a way that timeout just can't. The parent just has to be careful not to do it too often for too minor things, and also not to hurt the child seriously.Are you kidding me? Think about it like this...

If you come home, it's a stressful day at work, and your kid(s) come up to you and start whining and complaining and throwingn a fit, you wouldn't like it would you? So, being as what you said, (possibly in a diff. case) you would spank/hit/discipline. BUT! you must not realize that when you are in that state of mind, any amount of hurt means nothing, because when you start yelling and hitting, you can't stop. It's like an adrenaline rush of pure anger. The more you do, the more you want.

Spanking doesn't hurt seriously SURE, but if it's done repeatedly on end for 5 minutes straight...yeah...it's definetly gonna be more than "not to hurt the child."

[2Foxxxxxxxxxie4U2♥~]

Are you kidding me? Think about it like this...

If you come home, it's a stressful day at work, and your kid(s) come up to you and start whining and complaining and throwingn a fit, you wouldn't like it would you? So, being as what you said, (possibly in a diff. case) you would spank/hit/discipline. BUT! you must not realize that when you are in that state of mind, any amount of hurt means nothing, because when you start yelling and hitting, you can't stop. It's like an adrenaline rush of pure anger. The more you do, the more you want.

Spanking doesn't hurt seriously SURE, but if it's done repeatedly on end for 5 minutes straight...yeah...it's definetly gonna be more than "not to hurt the child."

Have you ever had a spanking before?
I honestly don't think it's possible to spank anyone for 5 minutes straight. >.>

[EvilMan_89]

i did. that damn coat hanger (she used a coat hanger), kept smacking my butt. but i deserved it becuz i threw rocks at the neighborhood kids as they were riding their bikes just to make them fall, i believe one of them needed stitches. yea, i deserved that. and after that, i NEVER did anything bad again (nothing serious like that anyway)

[kairi007]

my brother was being really bad and my parents yelled at him what do you guys think of that?

[Darkwatch]

Have you ever had a spanking before?
I honestly don't think it's possible to spank anyone for 5 minutes straight. >.>Well, yes, as a matter of fact. My dad was fairly abusive when I was still an adolescent. Have YOU had a spanking? If you have, you would know how bad it hurts, and that like I said, in the state of mind the person is in (anger), there is no limits, and thus the person could go on for maybe longer.

[Big C]

Are you kidding me? Think about it like this...

If you come home, it's a stressful day at work, and your kid(s) come up to you and start whining and complaining and throwingn a fit, you wouldn't like it would you? So, being as what you said, (possibly in a diff. case) you would spank/hit/discipline. BUT! you must not realize that when you are in that state of mind, any amount of hurt means nothing, because when you start yelling and hitting, you can't stop. It's like an adrenaline rush of pure anger. The more you do, the more you want.

Spanking doesn't hurt seriously SURE, but if it's done repeatedly on end for 5 minutes straight...yeah...it's definetly gonna be more than "not to hurt the child."

You are misconstruing what I said. I wouldn't spank a kid for whining, and I certainly wouldn't spank 'em for 5 minutes solid. But disregarding that for the sake of addressing your scenario, the responsibility is on the parent not to lose control, and any normal adult should be able to handle that. When I was a small kid, I was spanked plenty of times for doing something very bad, but neither of my parents ever lost control with it, and it was more effective than what a timeout would have been.

Parents who have history of child abuse ought not to be spanking their children, but parents with history of child abuse are not the norm. Normal people are able to maintain control.

[Rufus]

D= ahh no they shouldn't, i mean if they get like that imagine when they're older.... they'll start hitting you ^^;;

[sgh]

I think kids should be spanked if they do something particaularly outrageous(i.e when they're WAY out of control) and then in controlled bursts of 2 or 3 at a time. If u get a little spanking in early it sets a mindset of authority and spanking won't be required in their older years.

[2Foxxxxxxxxxie4U2♥~]

Well, yes, as a matter of fact. My dad was fairly abusive when I was still an adolescent. Have YOU had a spanking? If you have, you would know how bad it hurts, and that like I said, in the state of mind the person is in (anger), there is no limits, and thus the person could go on for maybe longer.

Oh yeah. I've definately been spanked. I was the baddest little two year old the world ever saw. But the most my mom ever ever got to was 20 hits. (And I did something REALLY bad, so I dun blame her. >.> ) And I'm sorry you got abused as a child, but personally, I don't see spanking and physical abuse as the same thing. For me that'll be like... someone saying being metrosexual and homosexual is the same thing. There's a huge gap in between. >.>

[Crazy Tifa]

I voted no although kids who misbehave should get spanked if what they did was really serious. But Super Nanny's methods are way more effective.

(I would have loved to say more but I'm using a PSP and it's really starting to annoy me).

[RoXSoRa]

Nooo don't do that. What people are you guys if you do that?? You're kids,too-.-

[EvilMan_89]

well.... getting spanked isn't as bad as it seems. i've been spanked plenty of times and i can honestly say it's done much better than those stupid timeouts they used to use instead where i would just go to sleep

[1winged_angel]

Well getting spanked really teaches you to do right, not like those other punishments, it may seem barbaric or something to other adults or kids or somethin but I'm going with it's effective

[EvilMan_89]

yea, what u said, i'm so shocked and disappointed that so many people said NO.

[Anniexo]

I think kids should be Spanked but not to hard. I was Spanked as a kid and I turned out just find but I thimk now-a-days some kids get hit by there mum or dad cus they need to let so seom stress when they should hit there pillow not there kids

[~tReAh867~]

I think that if you raise your children from birth the right way, then spanking is really not needed. I understand some physical discipline, but very mild; nothing that will actually hurt.

Also, some parents just over discipline their children. They may spank a child, but that does not teach the child anything except that if they do something wrong they will be physically hurt. But they don't know why the thing they did was wrong. I hope this is understandalbe; I feel like I'm kinda jumping from one thing to the other.

Basically, you need to first understand that a child does things that may be wrong without knowing that he or she is doing something wrong. Most of the time the child is simply playing around. So spanking a child without letting the child know what they did wrong and why it was wrong is really not good parenting. You cannot just solely use physical punishment. You have to verbally communicate with the child to a point where both of you understand one another. And, in truth I really do not like any form of physical punishment. I'm just not a violent person and I believe that words will speak much louder.

.... I hope that made sense... :confused:

[JackS27]

Hmm...I don't know. I think that spanking should be done once...and hopefully the kid will get the message so you won't ever have to again.

My father spanked me once when I was 3. I had hit another kid in daycare and he spanked me in front of everyone and said "You don't like that, do you? Don't do it to others." Since then I've been afraid of hurting people.

Now that I think of it that way, I'm not so sure if that helped me so much...I guess I'd rather be unwilling to hurt than willing to, but it's hard to break in a self-defence situation.

[ЯзJзct.çom]

I think they should tell the child what they have done then spank them if they do it over and over again.

[John S.]

Yes. I would take it one step further and slap them if they kept acting up. Taking away there ps2 wont stop them from doing it over again.

[Misty]

I do believe Children should be spanked, although the parents should talk to them afterward. I have been brought up this way, and I think I turned out okay. I can't stand when children are in stores, and they cry and their parents don't even restrain them. My Mom is all about disipline, and if I ever have kids, I would defiently spank them. I don't feel sending them to their room is very effective when they have Electronics up there.

[roxasloverdarius]

I don't think they should because when my dad did that to me it hurt and sometimes made me cry. He dosn't do that anymore but still, I don't think people should.:( :)

[Big C]

The point of a spanking is to hurt. There is no point in a painless spanking. That would be like grounding someone but still letting them go places and do stuff.

[Neku]

When I was little I had the tar beat out of me just for looking at my dad wrong, if I was in the wrong room and he was mad, I got spanked, slapped and punched until I was on the ground....I dont think hitting your kid should be the priority of disipline, but if the kids out of control, by all means, spank them...kids need to know parents are parents, not friends, and should be respected as such

[John S.]

When I was little I had the tar beat out of me just for looking at my dad wrong, if I was in the wrong room and he was mad, I got spanked, slapped and punched until I was on the ground....I dont think hitting your kid should be the priority of disipline, but if the kids out of control, by all means, spank them...kids need to know parents are parents, not friends, and should be respected as such


My dad did the same thing to me except once I got to the ground i started getting kicked. Now thats going over board but spanking or slapping your kids if they act up is fine. you should talk to them afterwards tho(p.s. my dad was a big man too).

[Camel]

Hell yeah, getting spanked for being [I]BAD[I] makes me kind of horny..

XD... but some times it hurts to get hit with a wooden spoon.... (i still have bruises from childhood spankings)

[Neku]

My dad did the same thing to me except once I got to the ground i started getting kicked. Now thats going over board but spanking or slapping your kids if they act up is fine. you should talk to them afterwards tho(p.s. my dad was a big man too).

Yeah if he wasnt using something to hit me I would be getting kicked while on the ground too, it continued until I got fed up and kicked his teeth in though...after that I never talked to him again

[EvilMan_89]

well....if ur Chinese (like i am), ur parents DO beat u, lol. and my mom used anything she could find, like a coat hanger (u think it doesn't hurt, but it DOES). but my parents chilled out with it after a few years.

[Mari]

ok, did you know that its not illegal to spank kids with anything? You can spank them with a hot flaming iron and you wont get arrested. Its illegal if you spank them and give them damage such as scars, bruises, etc. Bet'cha didn't know that... I love my career ^^

[Rouge Angel92]

Spanking is fine as long as it is within reason, but slapping over the head or back, kicking you while you're on the ground is just wrong. My parents did spank me but never kicked me but they didn't have to do that just to make me cry. All they have to do is yell/scream at me, call me a'little sh**', or call me other names and stuff.
My mom once called me a hateful old hefer and said I made her sick just for not playing the clarinet for her. She even pushed me up against the wall before. My dad was the one who spanked me most of the time, but now he'll sometimes slap me across the back of my head. (Trust me they give me bad headaches!)

[EvilMan_89]

i agree with you. but who else likes watching b itchy kids get spanked by their parents? i do!

[Statuess]

I have to say, every year after mine in school seems to get ruder!

When it comes to ANY kind of punishment, a kid just has to see there are other ways to go about things before they could start resisting. (It's similar to this thing we discussed in Philosophy and Belief- Does a religious upbringing brainwash a child into belief. And in some cases, it does the exact opposite.)

Also, maybe it's because I was never spanked properly or regularly, but if a parent (it would only be my father, and even that's not very likely) raises a hand against me, all I feel is hatred, anger and injustice. (Other than that, my Mum hit the cat about a month ago for being sick on the table, and even though she said it was just a tap, it was loud enough for me to hear the impact and it still upsets me.)

Maybe I'm a narcissist to think I would never deserve a physical punishment from them. I do as I want, but I am not vulgar. As a matter of fact, I think that most punishments are highly flawed.

Like bullying, wouldn't it only lead to a repeat of the same? If everyone did it, it could get out of control.

[Anderson]

Spanking kids for punishment isn't discipline. It's humiliation and degradation. However, punishment should be A LOT WORSE! MUAHAHAHA *looks* OOH! ANOTHER COOKIE!

[Camel]

ok, did you know that its not illegal to spank kids with anything? You can spank them with a hot flaming iron and you wont get arrested. Its illegal if you spank them and give them damage such as scars, bruises, etc. Bet'cha didn't know that... I love my career ^^

yeah, NO, its not because i tried to get my parents locked up after they threw me into a trash can because i shot an old lady with my paintball gun

[Roxas]

yeah, NO, its not because i tried to get my parents locked up after they threw me into a trash can because i shot an old lady with my paintball gun

Dude I remember that. You tried to get them locked up but they didn't go to jail and now you're basically screwed everyday.

I'm not joking. And I voted yes on that kids should be spanked.

[EvilMan_89]

u shot an old lady?! wow, Camel is an out of control teen! he/she needs an
a ss whooping. and roxas, good for u! i was hoping alot more ppl would agree with me but WTH

[Cherry]

I voted yes for spanking because of this little midget kid (aged 7) that gave my little sister a black eye so I torture him every time I see him. That little kid is not the only devil child I have encountered in my life... He has no mercy on anyone so I have no mercy on him >.<

He hurts old ladies, babies, adults (with anything sharp) and his mother just says, 'He's just a little angel' and gives him anything he orders her! I mean, he's spolit and much worse than the average brat that spits in your face. What happened to respect the elders?

[ЯзJзct.çom]

Wow thats pretty evil...
but..come on...kids really dont know better (basiclly 6 and under...)and uhh...
Yelling at them is much better....ya for scraming at people!

[Cherry]

Yelling did nothing for that little kid and he knows exactly what he's doing, he even spanked his own mum with a spanner, and he backchats too much.

I can understand that some kids do not deserve to get slapped and I'm sorry if you do not like what I think but its better to be honest than to lie all the time. But there could be another way... Spanking does make you feel sore at times and it can be really painful.

[EvilMan_89]

I voted yes for spanking because of this little midget kid (aged 7) that gave my little sister a black eye so I torture him every time I see him. That little kid is not the only devil child I have encountered in my life... He has no mercy on anyone so I have no mercy on him >.<

He hurts old ladies, babies, adults (with anything sharp) and his mother just says, 'He's just a little angel' and gives him anything he orders her! I mean, he's spolit and much worse than the average brat that spits in your face. What happened to respect the elders?

OMG! that kid is a b itch! he deserves to get his a ss kicked! if i were a millionaire, i would take a plane to wherever this kid is and beat him myself

[Camel]

u shot an old lady?! wow, Camel is an out of control teen! he/she needs an
a ss whooping. and roxas, good for u! i was hoping alot more ppl would agree with me but WTH

true dat yo! i need a good Grillzin!

[IamtheLorax]

kids need to be spanked... besides it is fun spanking them...hehehe

[if poo was money...]

Its ok so long as you dont make them bleed
you if you were going to l use a studded paddle dont hit them too hard
social services would start meddling

[Budabuda]

kids need to be spanked... besides it is fun spanking them...hehehe

k thats just wrong. But i believe children should be spanked, it shows them that they cant get away with things with a time out. they need physical disiplin

[EvilMan_89]

k thats just wrong. But i believe children should be spanked, it shows them that they cant get away with things with a time out. they need physical disiplin
agreed. stupid kids

kids need to be spanked... besides it is fun spanking them...hehehe

lol

[Camel]

when i was little my dad used to rip my clothes off and then throw me to the ground then whip out his shlong then jizz all ova my nipplez....

i still have nightmares...

[crystel]

its okay to spank kids
as long as u don't hurt them
really bad or make them bleed

[2Foxxxxxxxxxie4U2♥~]

when i was little my dad used to rip my clothes off and then throw me to the ground then whip out his shlong then jizz all ova my nipplez....

i still have nightmares...

............... O.o

*throws up all over self*

Ugh.... PLEASE tell me you're joking...? ;_;

[Camel]

NO JOKE



I still get punished but not as often as then


i was a real "dumb ***" as my dad really calls me and roxas.

[Atticus]

Camel may seem like he's joking... But he's not. I witnessed it once when he was over at Roxas's house and realized he was late, so I drove him home and his dad backhanded him, ripped off his shirt and whipped his chest with a belt... Then he smacked my face with the belt... He told me to leave, but I tried to defend Camel, which only resulted in both of us on the ground while Camel's dad screamed at us... He literally kicked me out of the house and locked the door... I heard Camel's screams but was helpless.

It may seem out there, but it's all true. Camel's dad is insane.

[IamtheLorax]

that kinda turns me on... just a bit though not major

[Camel]

yeah


you say that now but wait until you meet my dad....

you will literally **** in your pants!

[Budabuda]

thats kinda weird/gross

[Darkwatch]

*Coughchildabusecough*


I am totally against it. Even though I can imagine I myself would be tempted to do this. xD

[shadowjak]

I truly don't think so. I know a kid who was abused to the point where he had black eyes, he may have feared his dad, but he didn't care how he behaved in school, etc. How a kid turns out is truly not on the parent, it's just on the kid...

[EvilMan_89]

sometimes. but it's sometimes the parent's fault. like if they let them get away with stuff

[DarknessKingdom]

Yeah. Parents are responsible for what they're child is doing and that includes alot of things.

Example: Taking drugs, (parents should have a closer eye on their kid and make sure he's not hanging out with the wrong crowd), underage drinking (again, the same as taking drugs), and underage sexual intercourse.

Parents are responsible of supervising their kids, and yes, it depends on the kid, but at an early age, they are influenced by their parents.

[Deathspank]

Parents can only be so responsible for a kid. Trust me, it's really hard for them. Example... my parents are the greatest in the world (my opinion), but I've done some things that I probably should've thought twice about. In the past three months alone I've had 3 confrontations with police officers, two of which I could've been thrown in the county. We're responsible for our own actions.

P.S.
What defines "the wrong crowd" anyway? I certainly do not consider myself a delinquent, but I do find that I'm associated with many stereotypical "wrong crowd" behaviors.

[Anderson]

P.S.
What defines "the wrong crowd" anyway? I certainly do not consider myself a delinquent, but I do find that I'm associated with many stereotypical "wrong crowd" behaviors.

It's really what adults believe their kids shouldn't act like.
But really, there is NO such thing as "the wrong crowd" even though I believe I shouldn't hang with people like that.

[EvilMan_89]

Parents can only be so responsible for a kid. Trust me, it's really hard for them. Example... my parents are the greatest in the world (my opinion), but I've done some things that I probably should've thought twice about. In the past three months alone I've had 3 confrontations with police officers, two of which I could've been thrown in the county. We're responsible for our own actions.

P.S.
What defines "the wrong crowd" anyway? I certainly do not consider myself a delinquent, but I do find that I'm associated with many stereotypical "wrong crowd" behaviors.

yea, somewhat. as long as they punish the kids for things they do wrong, like by hitting them.....things shoudl be fine. and the "wrong crowd" would be ppl who's idea of a good time is stealing a car or if they cause trouble. btw....wat did u vote for?

EDIT: nvm, u didn't vote at all. and i didn't know u could check who voted for what.

[VideoGameNerd246]

I dont really think of it as child abuse but I think of it as correcting for the better good. Like if the parent tells the child not to do something and they be rebelious and tough and dosent listen to the parents constently telling them not to do something then they deserve a spanking :mad: . Heck I got spanked when I was little to discipline me and look at me now! I dont get spanked anymore.

And if a parent cant spank a child how else will they discipline them?

[Mr. Bob]

Maybe you dont get spanked because you are older now? Lol. Will I think they shouldnt be spanked! I think they should be sent to military school if the parents want to teach em a lesson >D

[Anderson]

Spanking is like more of humiliation than discipline. Children should be disciplined on the levels of how their children act.

[VideoGameNerd246]

Maybe you dont get spanked because you are older now?
Well not exactly because my brother is waaaay older than me and my dad spanks his @$$!

[Xigbar]

Hellz yes kids should get smacked around because you know what, now a day they think that their all that and a bag of chips, but guess what their not. This means that we should show them what the real world is like A SMACK IN THE FACE. By the way Im 15 and I know how those stupid little 8th, 7th, 6th graders, etc. act...

[shadowjak]

I know how they act too, but you have to realize Xigbar, how many f them do you think get abused at home?? A good 50% of them... It's in the child's ability to know right from wrong, not the parent's ability to show it... Becasue children today are smart, they know if they do wrong away from there parents, they won't get beaten...

[ЯзJзct.çom]

Hellz yes kids should get smacked around because you know what, now a day they think that their all that and a bag of chips, but guess what their not. This means that we should show them what the real world is like A SMACK IN THE FACE. By the way Im 15 and I know how those stupid little 8th, 7th, 6th graders, etc. act...
So im a stupid little eighth grader now huh?
I don't think im all that and a bag of chips.In fact I know im not.
I never got smacked around,and I turned out pretty good.
I would like you to bring up evidence to support your statment.

[Mr. Bob]

Hellz yes kids should get smacked around because you know what, now a day they think that their all that and a bag of chips, but guess what their not. This means that we should show them what the real world is like A SMACK IN THE FACE. By the way Im 15 and I know how those stupid little 8th, 7th, 6th graders, etc. act... Someone get this person out. What makes you say they think they are all that? Oh and what if they do? Ive seen older kids in my bus acting like they are all that! So should I smack him in the face? Anyways kids should be grounded without internet and no tv and they should spend their day in their rooms until a couple of days. The violence wont settle things it will only settle nothing but torture :/

[ukali_rules]

So I'm also a "stupid little 6th grader"! HUH! Well, I also never have gotten spanked and I kinda turned out all right. Still got any evidence! HUH! Think that we "younger people" are stuck up snots! I'm offended!

[Roxas]

Woah.

Woah. This has turned into a complete flame war. Someone states their albeit odd opinion and you go a-wall on him.

Another word and ths is closed.

[ЯзJзct.çom]

There is no flaming here that I can see.
But I believe one is coming on.....
Anways,I really think people should not hit at all.period.
Violence is wrong,even though it is quite natural.....

[IamtheLorax]

like i said before kids need to be hit as hard as you possible can. with out this teckneque kids would do what ever the hell they wanted. so i say whip out your base ball bat and smack the kids with it or even better hit them with ninja stars and make them bleed out.

[Camel]

yes that is what i think as well

[Sorafan60]

Well, I think that there are other ways of discipline, but a simple slap on the back of the hand does wonders. I voted yes on the subject, I got spanked when I was a little when I was bad, and now I know how to act in front of other people. Some kids are really rude these days though. I've seen those kids on those nanny shows Their cussing at there parents!!!!If I ever did that, I would get slapped.

[EvilMan_89]

bump....i wna discuss this topic again and i wna see wat members who weren't here b4 when it was active think about it. and no, i not doing to to be "cute" or "funny"

[Repliku]

I have mixed feelings on spanking children. Coming from an abusive household where my mother beat the tar out of me until I was 12/13, ran away, and refused to just take it anymore, I can say that some people have no control. This woman would suffocate me with pillows over my face and beat on me, doing stupid stuff. She had no control and often it was because she was mad at my dad or being left alone all the time. Needless to say, now we don't associate with one another very much.

However, I have seen kids that are horribly spoiled because parents do not do anything to them in the lines of discipline and just let the kids walk all over them. This in turn leads to kids doing scenes like in the stores etc and a parent cannot -dare- to swat the kid on the rump gently or grab the kid's hands and hold them etc for fear of child services being called.

I cannot say myself, despite my upbringing, that I would not spank a child who is doing something particularly dangerous to him/herself or someone else, or smack a hand etc. I would not want the child to be -hurt- but if that kid is doing something that could potentially cause severe harm, I know what has to be done. I would never want to hit my child 'out of anger' which is where I believe the child abuse situation comes in. My mother as well as others who abused children, were always enraged and furious. They would say later they 'had no control' and be all anxious etc. I would never want to discipline my kid without 'control'.

So, my discipline would mostly be like this...

1. Small things - no way would I hit a kid. Part of raising a kid is teaching them ethics and how to be in control yourself. If I was that mad at them, I'd probably pass the duty over to my significant other or try to relax first before dealing with it by giving them time-out or sending them to their room so I can get myself in the right mood. I don't see this as a problem though because regularly I'm pretty calm and have worked with kids for years.

2. Things that harm others such as beating someone up or being really rotten or putting someone's life in peril, like the kid is trying to set fire to things etc... I may have to but it would depend on the situation. If I felt talking would work, I'd use it. If it's a repeated pattern, yes, I would spank the child and/or be focusing on that habit to break them out of it. I would never just spank a child though and not say what it was for and what they need to learn.

Also, I want to clarify I'd never consider hitting a child anywhere but the bottom dollar. And I'd also not use some instrument i.e. a belt, to do such. Really, in the end it all depends what the kid does. I was not a -bad- kid so I don't think my kid would be too horrible either. Here's to hoping heh. I don't believe that all kids 'need' spanked and that if discipline is started early, you may not have to hit them at all, but for more serious things, kids don't learn their bad habits just at home. They can get them from friends at school too and socialization that is poor quality. This is why parents need to just pay attention and not get furious if they can help it.

[the muffin man]

Who thinks that kids need to be spanked to behave?
i personally do, becuz has anyone seen that show on Fox "nanny 911?" notice none of those parents spank their kids and their kids are *****es? and then, *****y kids become.... uh oh.... out of control teenagers. and just asking, does anybody hit kids? i would....if they pissed me off enoughRIGHT ON DUDE!!!Yeah.I believe that too.I mean,childs often don't understand with words,so the next thing to do is...SPANK,SPANK,SPAAAAANK!Am i evil or what...?

-__-

[Laurence_Fox]

Rule number one - Never spank when you're angry.

I think some parents just jump right into spanking when their child does something wrong. I don't have any of my own but I've learned enough and seen enough to be able to say this. They don't explain what the child did wrong, didn't bother with time out, it's just a swat to the backside when the parent gets upset with them.

I think I only got spanked once or twice when I was a kid and my mother would then explain why I got spanked. And when I nodded that I understood I'd get a hug.

That's another thing, kids know when they've done something bad. Spanking just makes them feel worse. When my mother hugged me she made me feel better.

Spanking should only be done when you've exhausted all other options. Explaining doesn't work, Time out doesn't work, warnings don't work. If that is your only option left to you, fine, but if you're rolling angry, don't. Calm yourself down first.

I think I'd send them to a guest bedroom. Sending them to their room doesn't work. All their toys are in there. Not to mention the room becomes a punishment( when overused) and when bedtime comes, they don't want to be in there. A guest bedroom or another room without stimulation.

Physical punishment should only be a last resort and if you resort to it too much, maybe you need to find another method that works. Not all kids are the same. I was relatively easy as far as discipline went since I didn't really do anything.

I think mothers and fathers need to explain before anything else. Say your little one has spilt milk on the kitchen table. Don't yell right away. Say, 'Well you made a good try but let Mommy pour milk for you next time.' And then have them help you clean the mess up.

[EvilMan_89]

yea but i think that far too many parents aren't punishing their kids when they do bad things, and worse sometimes they make excuses for them

[Repliku]

Well said, Laurence Fox. I agree with everything you posted. You may have to discipline the child with a spanking, but it should be when all other options have been exhausted and not when the parent is not in control due to rage or anxiety.

[8730]

I think children should be spanked either on the behind or hit on the back of the hand when they do something bad. Then when they think about doing it again they will remember the pain. But it has to be consistant, meaning hitting them every time they do something bad and only when they do something bad. Also, it should not be causing permanent marking. It should be enough to cause pain but not so hard you are actually trying to hurt them.

[EvilMan_89]

totally agree with above statement

[White_Rook]

The voting options are too extreme. Positive reinforcement and the removal of reinforcers have a better effect on the child psychologically and behaviourally than just smacking them when they get out of line. The point is to establish that you/the parent are the ones that are in control, all the while still maintaining the role of a parent/guardian. Hitting has a very high chance of making the child think you hate them and damages the parent-child social relationship.

[Amethyst Grave]

The voting options are too extreme. Positive reinforcement and the removal of reinforcers have a better effect on the child psychologically and behaviourally than just smacking them when they get out of line. The point is to establish that you/the parent are the ones that are in control, all the while still maintaining the role of a parent/guardian. Hitting has a very high chance of making the child think you hate them and damages the parent-child social relationship.

Yea, what he said!

[TheMuffinMan]

Children need to get beat to learn their lesson

[White_Rook]

Children need to get beat to learn their lesson

Nah they just need to learn who's in charged. It's a shame most parents don't have the balls to do so.

[Eternal Session]

The voting options are too extreme. Positive reinforcement and the removal of reinforcers have a better effect on the child psychologically and behaviourally than just smacking them when they get out of line. The point is to establish that you/the parent are the ones that are in control, all the while still maintaining the role of a parent/guardian. Hitting has a very high chance of making the child think you hate them and damages the parent-child social relationship.

Agreed, some more the child would have remember the pain and revenge on you some days

[KissesOfKunai]

My mom used to spank me every other day or so when I was young. And I hated it. And I hated her. It made me want to prove that I could do something right.

I used to push my friends away and hate them just because they got a higher grade then I did on a test. Even when I got like an A- I would get really mad with my self. I remember when I would stay up all night studying and then do the test and then find out I got like one or two wrong out of 20 questions and break down about it. It made me feel worthless. Then my mom would shout at me and it just made it worst. Then as I got older, I isolated myself from everyone, studying everyday, just to do something right. I was almost begging to hear a good praise from her since she barely gives any.

Later on, it took me a while, but I learned to except mistakes and to know that I'm not stupid or worthless. I slowly opened up and I learned to fight back. I got my friends, my life and everything back. Now everytime I see a B+, I would be ok about it.

My mom doesn't beat me anymore, but we still get in fights once or twice. It's gotten better, but there are those tense moments when it's only she and I in one room. I don't hate her anymore, but I don't love her to death.

[EvilMan_89]

yes i KNOW the voting options are too extreme, ppl told me that a year ago when i made this thread, lol. there's nothing i can do about it now. but plz vote to the closest of your opinions. also, i don't think spanking is nesscarily bad, becuz some kids obviously need to be spanked to become a better person

[Kaira]

As I have observed myself, being verbal with a kid or putting them in time-out does NOT affect them too much. Society is becoming very... how should I put it... visually learning like? It's not enough to type at someone or yell at them. We look for pictures and want to feel with our sense of touch rather than listen or read words. Children don't respond to verbal lectures anymore. I know sure as hell I don't.

A nice, sharp feeling in a kid's rump is enough to keep them from doing too much more harm. :/ I don't support beating the shnikes out of them with a pan or anything. A whack once or twice with a firm palm or a profound thump on the head does the trick just fine.

[Repliku]

As I have observed myself, being verbal with a kid or putting them in time-out does NOT affect them too much. Society is becoming very... how should I put it... visually learning like? It's not enough to type at someone or yell at them. We look for pictures and want to feel with our sense of touch rather than listen or read words. Children don't respond to verbal lectures anymore. I know sure as hell I don't.

A nice, sharp feeling in a kid's rump is enough to keep them from doing too much more harm. :/ I don't support beating the shnikes out of them with a pan or anything. A whack once or twice with a firm palm or a profound thump on the head does the trick just fine.

Yes, sometimes kids will not listen to a verbal lecture and make sure after a while to let you know it's a humdrum boring old 'lecture' with rolls of the eyes or they'll just come out and tell you so and that they don't care. Time Out works for little kids..and only so well too.

So, sometimes I do think that you have to swat a kid on the hand or on the rump to show that kid you are -very serious- about them not doing something that could cause harm to him/her or someone else. Each kid is different so some may just adhere to the words spoken and positive reinforcement. Others are more stubborn and even animals in the wild, when their kids are doing something dangerous, will grab them and bark or growl or give them a bat of a paw. Of course, this doesn't mean someone should beat the tar out of a kid, but I can say that a swat on the rump really can get it through when words just aren't enough.

[saxoR_vs_aroS]

Perfect wording, Repliku.

My parents always got the message across by slight physical contact such as a slap on the mouth, or a swat with a slipper. I shows the kid that you arent joking around. That you mean it. While that doesn't mean you need to bring out a cane, small things like that show the kid that you're serious.

[Mielé]

if im bad now, my daddy takes my laptop away D: i used to bge a real bad kid though with detention every day. i used to get hit by my mum n dad and i hated it! but wen i see little kids screaming at their mum who isnt doing anything bout it, i just wanna kick their head in ><

[Crumpet]

i believe they do - theres this girl in my grade - who's been a total biatch coz she never got disciplined.. she's on drugs, spreads rumours, and drinks, smokes etc

her lifes gonna be short if she continues

[White_Rook]

i believe they do - theres this girl in my grade - who's been a total biatch coz she never got disciplined.. she's on drugs, spreads rumours, and drinks, smokes etc

her lifes gonna be short if she continues

It think it would be based on something more than just the fact that her parents didn't discipline her.

[EvilMan_89]

It think it would be based on something more than just the fact that her parents didn't discipline her.
that's true, but a hitting hand MIGHT be able to put her BACK in hand :wink: like my pun?

[clawtooth35]

I think that children should not be smacked. it damages them emotionally and also... I was smacked a lot when I was little. I am now 13 and my brother hits me a lot too. I can't play sports like soccar/ tennis because whenever the ball comes towards me I think it's going to hit me and hurt me. I beleive more in methods like the naughty step method for discipline

[Repliku]

I think that children should not be smacked. it damages them emotionally and also... I was smacked a lot when I was little. I am now 13 and my brother hits me a lot too. I can't play sports like soccar/ tennis because whenever the ball comes towards me I think it's going to hit me and hurt me. I beleive more in methods like the naughty step method for discipline

So it's better to just let a kid do whatever because they are too dumb to listen when you say stop a million times? It seems you are traumatized so you should just tell your brother to stop and if he doesn't, tell your parents it's really upsetting you that he keeps doing it and it's stressing you out. There are other methods but when those don't work, sometimes a kid needs a little swat. It seems to me you were just slapped 'too much' perhaps but really, get over the issue with the ball thing by actually stepping up. Even if a ball hits you it doesn't really hurt that bad (unless someone is throwing it at warp 9) and a silly phobia like that sucks.

[clawtooth35]

o.k. you are intitled to your opinion but he will never stop. EVER. and it is not a silly little phobia. If you wore glasses and had been hit with an exercise ball at the age of 7 in the eyes, which then caused you to get CONJUNCTIVEITUS how would you feel?

[Bubble Master Califa]

depends on how bad the kids are because spanking or hitting the kids should be the last option but using that option should be allowed when the kid becomes completely out of control.

[11jones2]

yeah but limted how hard they hit and if their teenagers just show them barney or teletbuies for my parnets i got spanked 3 times and when i did some thing bad but not super mad my dad told me to sit in a chair for 30 mins and stare at the wall while my little bro watch tv and i missed my favroit show lol

[EvilMan_89]

well i suppose spanking isn't nessacary ONLY if the parents find some other way to adequetely discipline the children that will actually make them stop doing bad things.

[Hummingbird]

I'm against all kinds of violence be it as disciplinary measures or not. If you are having trouble connecting with your child, a spanking is not going to do any good; it's just going to distance the child even more from the parent and nothing can be as damaging for a child as feeling unloved by their parents. I'm not saying you should let a child behave badly, but violence is not the solution. Although I'm no expert on children, I'd say explaining to a child what they did wrong and giving them a punishment that doesn't affect their physical or mental health is a much more effective way. The last thing you'll want to do to a child with behavioral problems is to destroy your relationship with the child. From what I've seen, problematic people often seem to have bad relationships with their parents in which case even therapy will most likely be a better choice than resorting to violence.

[Tammylita]

I'm not sure where I stand in this arguement. My mother might have been considered abusive at some points in her discipline, but I believe it's made me a better person. I'm at the top of my class in school, I have a strong sense of morals, and I think really deeply about certain issues. I don't think this is a direct result of physical discipline. But I've always been really considerate of my actions and how they affect people, and I've never considered using illegal substances or doing something that would harm myself or others.

I suppose it depends. Punishment when it's neccesary is important. Punishment that's excessively cruel isn't, needless to say.

And as for my mother and I's realtionship, it changes daily.

[White_Rook]

So it's better to just let a kid do whatever because they are too dumb to listen when you say stop a million times? It seems you are traumatized so you should just tell your brother to stop and if he doesn't, tell your parents it's really upsetting you that he keeps doing it and it's stressing you out. There are other methods but when those don't work, sometimes a kid needs a little swat. It seems to me you were just slapped 'too much' perhaps but really, get over the issue with the ball thing by actually stepping up. Even if a ball hits you it doesn't really hurt that bad (unless someone is throwing it at warp 9) and a silly phobia like that sucks.

That's not the issue at hand. Both extremes fail, and in most cases the child that is "too dumb to listen" is that way because of their parents approach. The fact is that rules should be implemented and enforced with understanding. Simply associating a smack with an action out of turn doesn't promote any real learning; the child is just conditioned to an authoritarian style of parenting. Even explaining afterwards to the child that they were hit because they did something wrong still doesn't explain the hitting. The relationship between "right" and "wrong" still becomes governed by a fear of being hit. This can cause a great deal of stress in child for fear of screwing up and therefore comes to effect self-esteem. If punishment is to be given, an ultimatum does nothing but become a provocation and lazy approach. Affecting the child's world directly through secondary associations like removing TV or video game privileges hits much harder all the while maintaining that he/she is still liked and loved.

[EvilMan_89]

yes i AM SO SORRY for making the poll options so extreme, i made this thread over a year ago :sorry:

EDIT: also, there comes a certain time when spanking isn't nessacary anymore like when the kid is mature enough to listen to reason.

[Repliku]

That's not the issue at hand. Both extremes fail, and in most cases the child that is "too dumb to listen" is that way because of their parents approach. The fact is that rules should be implemented and enforced with understanding. Simply associating a smack with an action out of turn doesn't promote any real learning; the child is just conditioned to an authoritarian style of parenting. Even explaining afterwards to the child that they were hit because they did something wrong still doesn't explain the hitting. The relationship between "right" and "wrong" still becomes governed by a fear of being hit. This can cause a great deal of stress in child for fear of screwing up and therefore comes to effect self-esteem. If punishment is to be given, an ultimatum does nothing but become a provocation and lazy approach. Affecting the child's world directly through secondary associations like removing TV or video game privileges hits much harder all the while maintaining that he/she is still liked and loved.

I never said that someone should hit a child because of an action alone. If talking and comprehension works, by all means that is the approach that should be taken. However, some kids just look at you like 'not another lecture' and roll their eyes at you. This includes children that really lack any sense of benevolence to others and sometimes hurt others or do things like trying to set things on fire, torture animals etc. Also, those kids who gripe they want crap in the supermarket and grab candy, kids that try to walk in the street unsupervised at young ages, kids that cuss out older people for no reason etc. You do need to measure things out in what you do and walk away if discipline is just going to be a parent venting.

I was physically abused as a child and not the 'abuse' that people go on often about today, though real abuse does happen, so I don't want to make it sound like a dying thing. I was smothered with pillows, punched, kicked, grabbed around the neck, banged into walls and the floor, tables shoved into my ribs and I have a scar on my face from my mom tossing me into a vacuum cleaner with an off/on switch and the reason was because I was jumping on the bed at 5 years old. I do not believe in -abuse- to any level. However, I can say that though my mother abused the crap out of me, I was only ever hit by my dad 3 times and each time I totally knew I deserved it because I was not paying attention to him and giving him a tude. I deserved what I got and that discipline did make me better and realize I should not do the acts because they were wrong. For most things pertaining to my father, I listened because he was level headed and stern when he had to be but never over the top. I totally stopped paying attention to my mother at age 12 because she simply could not physically really harm me anymore. Her words still were painful as she told me she wished I was never born etc. So really she made me have a lot less respect for her than I did my dad, who knew to deal with me firm when he had to and to talk to me a majority of the time.

You are absolutely right when you say discipline should be dealt with understanding. That was not my point at all. The deal was that the person was not looking for ways to cope and instead just blaming things on others. There are children out there who are actually seriously abused and there is a difference. Sadly, the children who actually get it often are not seen that way and the children who want more attention instead get it. Children who get beaten on till they see speckles before their eyes don't say things to others until years later when they have gotten free of that. I know that is true for me and several others. A smack on the butt or hand isn't going to scar a kid as bad as something worse that could happen because the kid doesn't want to listen to reasoning and thinks it's for nothing of a cause of attention.

[EvilMan_89]

oh i'd like to bring something else up, you're free to not hit your child but attempting to discipline them and somehow having it not work is worse then not disciplining them at all.

[Sexy Sheva]

I am not a big fan of 'hitting' a child

I always figured out that timeouts would work, and when they scream and cry, then let them! They are only kids and they'll get to learn when they get their 'timeouts'

trust me on this, i'm a freshman now, and i grew up getting 'spanked' on many levels =/

it's not right and i count it as harrasment


last time i got 'hit' or 'spanked' i told the last person who done it, next time, i'll dial 911

[EvilMan_89]

sounds like someone went overboard with you. but i would personally spank a kid who threatened to call 911 on me.

[Sexy Sheva]

sounds like someone went overboard with you. but i would personally spank a kid who threatened to call 911 on me.

well, explain to me what you would be doing in a situation, where you're about to get hit for something that you didn't do, or didn't mean to do? =/

btw, running away just makes it worse

[EvilMan_89]

well, explain to me what you would be doing in a situation, where you're about to get hit for something that you didn't do, or didn't mean to do? =/

btw, running away just makes it worse

well....that's going to happen at least once in your life. i know it's happened to me a few times, but you're just gonna have to suck it up. and if its' something you didn't MEAN to do, you still did it, just becuz you didn't MEAN to do it doesn't make it right tho.

running away, wat do you mean by that????????

[Fallen King]

has anyone been cursed out by a little kid before? thats annoying as hell. why are they so rude now? the answer: not getting the beatdowns that they deserve!!!

EDIT: wat? we can't say the B word? well, that's what kids are, they just don't listen to anybody.

..........

[Solid Snake]

Only in extrem situations should any form a violence be used on children...(That sounded lame <_<)

i wasnt spanked as a child (Much lol) and i turned out fine :D

[Dredica]

I heard that nanny 911 was just acting, I do believe that too.

[Sexy Sheva]

well....that's going to happen at least once in your life. i know it's happened to me a few times, but you're just gonna have to suck it up. and if its' something you didn't MEAN to do, you still did it, just becuz you didn't MEAN to do it doesn't make it right tho.

running away, wat do you mean by that????????

no i won't suck it up becuase it still happens in this household becuase of bratty younger siblings =/

they always start it, and the oldest ends up punished >_>


its ****ing sucks

[Solid Snake]

no i won't suck it up becuase it still happens in this household becuase of bratty younger siblings =/

they always start it, and the oldest ends up punished >_>


its ****ing sucks
I know how you feel ,
my brother usualy does something then im the one who gets in trouble D:

[Sexy Sheva]

I know how you feel ,
my brother usualy does something then im the one who gets in trouble D:

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little brothers are PAINS


including 7 year olds ><

[Solid Snake]

thats creapy my brother is 7 also :\

[Sexy Sheva]

thats creapy my brother is 7 also :\

and, how old are you?

[EvilMan_89]

I heard that nanny 911 was just acting, I do believe that too.
plausible, i think that too, but the show is cancelled now :(
no i won't suck it up becuase it still happens in this household becuase of bratty younger siblings =/

they always start it, and the oldest ends up punished >_>


its ****ing sucks

you really have to control yourself, you know, they might be getting you in trouble on purpose -_- i used to do that as well and my younger siblings tried that one on me

[Solid Snake]

and, how old are you?
<_<
>_>
15?

[Repliku]

no i won't suck it up becuase it still happens in this household becuase of bratty younger siblings =/

they always start it, and the oldest ends up punished >_>


its ****ing sucks

I was the oldest (well with a twin who had cerebral palsy so the twin wasn't going to get hit) and yeah, I can say that I was blamed for a ton of things my younger siblings did. Sometimes, in order for them to not get hit I just took the downfall. I so agree it sucks.

However, there are so many kids nowadays that use that threat of 'calling 911' for a spanking that it's pathetic. Most of the time the kids deserve the smack on the ass or to be grounded or whatever and they are spoiled. This is why DCFS cannot actually catch the people that ARE abusing their kids and save the ones who are hurt for real.

However, in some cases, it's not just being a brat and well, the child should get help. I just see it though too many times that kids who get 'spanked' think they have a right to waste people's times when often they did something rotten to earn the spanking in the first place. Since I do not know in the case of the person above, but it was said she/he was spanked a lot for trivial things, maybe the warning did help. Running away never worked though heh. My mom would always just lock me out of the house, let me in hours later and then get me back or I was grounded for several weeks.

I do think kids who are stubborn though do need a good swat if being firm with them in other ways fails. In the end, hitting shouldn't be the FIRST option. It should always be the last and whether some people like it or not, some kids are naturally stubborn or learn it from other kids that are spoiled, or even relatives etc. It is important that a lesson be learned, especially if the child or others could be harmed or even killed. I don't think it's abuse if it's the last resort to a kid that wants to cross his/her arms, roll eyes at you, and act like he/she owns you and your home. Those are the kids really that 'talking' to does not work and won't unless something is done.

[Dredica]

It might have been canceled do to the children not working xD

[Roxas0197]

I dont think kids should be spanked. i mean can't they just be grounded or something.

[EvilMan_89]

It might have been canceled do to the children not working xD
i wish i had the job the kids had -_-
I dont think kids should be spanked. i mean can't they just be grounded or something.
if it works then that's fine but groundings dont' really work on kids who have no social life for obvious reasons