14th Organization Member.... Whaaa!?!

[twilightsbringing]

They say she's female, too. I'm guessing it's Aqua. Don't worry! I have reasons! Xemnas was talking to Aqua's armor in KH2 Final Mix, right? But that still doesn't prove that she was there or even still alive. However, in Final Mix Xigbar apparently eavesdrops on Xemnas and hears him talking with someone. Xigbar says he couldn't hear what they were saying exactly, but he mentioned that it must be "Xemnas' secret." Who was Xemnas talking to? And isn't Xemnas the one who introduces this new female Organization member?
I've heard that some people think that it's Namine. It's a possibility, but it sounds rather odd. She just seems too innocent. Plus, she seems to dissaprove (total understatement) of the Organization's actions towards Sora and Roxas. She does say that she doesn't know whether the Organzation is good or bad, though. However, I don't think Namine met Roxas untill his imprisonment inside the Data Twilight Town.
.........

What do you think?

[Love]

Actully Namine met Roxas alittle before that .

I saw that 14th member thing coming along time ago ,

I think it's pretty neat that Org. 13 has another girl , finally.

[twilightsbringing]

Actully Namine met Roxas alittle before that .

I saw that 14th member thing coming along time ago ,

I think it's pretty neat that Org. 13 has another girl , finally.

Yeah it is cool there's another female! Larxene now has someone to talk, too! XD
Wait... when did Namine meet Roxas for the first time? I'm confuzled! DX

[thugondarel]

I think it was Aqua's nobody or something? I mean only nobodies are aloud in org.13 right. Aqua nobody probably did something crazy and Xenmas banished her or somethin? It sounds like complete bull but hey, little info equals complete bull.

[Thebazilly]

It's not Aqua. Aqua lived before the time of the first KH. It was only her armor that was in FM+.

And I don't think it's Namine, either. Because, how else would you explain her actions in CoM? She obviously was in Castle Oblivion before the Organization, and Marluxia was using her to get Sora. He wouldn't use other members of the Organization like that. (Except Vexen, maybe.)

I think she's going to be a new character. Just what the series needs, in my opinion. I'm excited to find out more about her, and I think that the Organization could benifit from some more girl power. ^^

[Pure Sorrow]

..its mish, end of story

[EvilMan_89]

this person obviously: dies/is Namine/leaves becuz later on there are only 13 members

[Fragmented Tales]

i think that gal is related to Aqua :rockdover:

[twilightsbringing]

I think it was Aqua's nobody or something? I mean only nobodies are aloud in org.13 right. Aqua nobody probably did something crazy and Xenmas banished her or somethin? It sounds like complete bull but hey, little info equals complete bull.

XD Ha! Though that is possible. Don't cut youself too short!

[iwantedtoexplode]

It's possible that something happened to Aqua and Ven, that they somehow became nobodies(which would mean Terra escaped), and became numbers XIII and XIV. I know that implies that Roxas isn't Sora's nobody, but we know Sora and Ven are somehow connected, so maybe there's more to Roxas than we think.

But we know for sure that number XIV quits, dies or something else to that effect.

Gah! I don't know how to explain it correctly! Whatever, it's not supported by that much fact, anyway.

[twilightsbringing]

It's possible that something happened to Aqua and Ven, that they somehow became nobodies(which would mean Terra escaped), and became numbers XIII and XIV. I know that implies that Roxas isn't Sora's nobody, but we know Sora and Ven are somehow connected, so maybe there's more to Roxas than we think.

But we know for sure that number XIV quits, dies or something else to that effect.

Gah! I don't know how to explain it correctly! Whatever, it's not supported by that much fact, anyway.

Remember the bit in Final Mix about Roxas supposedly having a heart? Well, what if Roxas' heart is Ven's heart? I don't know if you've seen the new scans or not, but there's a screen-cap with Terra yelling "What did you do to his heart!?!" O.o Total shot in the dark there...

[SinirothXIII]

It's not Aqua. Aqua lived before the time of the first KH.


Who's to say she didn't live after then too? You can face Terra in KHII:FM, so it doesn't seem like it's THAT long ago, if he's still there.

[Akino]

It's not Aqua. Aqua lived before the time of the first KH. It was only her armor that was in FM+.

And I don't think it's Namine, either. Because, how else would you explain her actions in CoM? She obviously was in Castle Oblivion before the Organization, and Marluxia was using her to get Sora. He wouldn't use other members of the Organization like that. (Except Vexen, maybe.)

I think she's going to be a new character. Just what the series needs, in my opinion. I'm excited to find out more about her, and I think that the Organization could benifit from some more girl power. ^^

Agreed. I'll go with the 'New Character' theory until then. Though, it seems more realistic. New characters make the game more interesting, to see how they could fit into the plot. Obviously, we all know that she'll be gone by the end of them game. So why not add a new member?

[key dragon]

Do you think the 14th member could be the main bad guy in this game?

[SoulSlayer]

Well, the 14th member is female, so it can't be a bad GUY. And so far the girls in KH have been pretty soft. Except for Aqua of course. I was actually thinking it was her. She was also the one locked up by Xemnas.

[methol]

i tbh do believe it to be aqua

there are soo many things that point to it being her.

that fact that aqua does have a relation to xenmas and the 13th organization makes you point directly at her.
but ofcourse does this mean we can say its now organization 14 ?

[Alpha Sonix]

Well, the 14th member is female, so it can't be a bad GUY. And so far the girls in KH have been pretty soft. Except for Aqua of course. I was actually thinking it was her. She was also the one locked up by Xemnas.

SEXIST! Joking, :). But I guessing it's Aqua's Nobody, I may not be right but to my knowledge King Mickey did encounter a Organization member in the game as it said in the preveiws so I'm guessing either Roxas or Mickey kills her or that she left the Organization.

[La Sofa]

Wait so Aqua is the 14th member? How?

[Knightshade]

Wait so Aqua is the 14th member? How?
Well the 14th member we have no clue who it is. But we do know it's a girl.

[La Sofa]

Well the 14th member we have no clue who it is. But we do know it's a girl.

But when was it confirmed they have a 14th member? How do you know this is true?

[Knightshade]

But when was it confirmed they have a 14th member? How do you know this is true?
In the tgs for the preview of kh 532/2(sumthin like that) at the end Xemnas say we have a new the member...the fourtheenth. Then it shows a person with the organization 13 cloak and all you can see is her li[s which look like a girls.

[La Sofa]

In the tgs for the preview of kh 532/2(sumthin like that) at the end Xemnas say we have a new the member...the fourtheenth. Then it shows a person with the organization 13 cloak and all you can see is her li[s which look like a girls.

Hm... Really?Is it on youtube or something? Not that I don't believe you. I just wanna see.

[Knightshade]

No it was was a closed theatre :(

[La Sofa]

No it was was a closed theatre :(

Dang it. :/

[Knightshade]

Dang it. :/

I know. But hopefully they'll release them later. I wonder if there going to say the date they will release all 3 of them on the last day of the tgs.

[La Sofa]

I know. But hopefully they'll release them later. I wonder if there going to say the date they will release all 3 of them on the last day of the tgs.
All this information about the Organization coming back in KH3, 14th member, and bald guy being Xemnas. IS hurting my brain. And is burning my patience for it coming out.

[Knightshade]

All this information about the Organization coming back in KH3, 14th member, and bald guy being Xemnas. IS hurting my brain. And is burning my patience for it coming out.
lol Here let me clear it up for you.

1.Organization 13 is probably not coming back in kh3. Just in kh 352/2 which a prequal that is during Roxas' time. Were you play his story line.

2.The bald guy is Xehanort. Heres a theory for that.
(quote)

If I explore Xehanort's heart with psychological tests, I may be able to
recall the past locked away within. My apprentice Even has also shown great
interest in Xehanort's memories. (quote)

Then i of course thought of the secret ending in kh2 were it said xehanorts lost memories. And then i thought wait it isnt talking about ansems aprentice xehanort (in any of his forms. Regular,Heartless and nobody) It was talking about a completely different person. Then i thought isn't it odd this mysterious new Xehanort has the same name as the main bad guy Sora fights? But it also says in the secret Ansem Reports

(quote)He had lost all his memories at the time, but later showed remarkable
intellectual curiosity and readily absorbed my teachings, gaining deep wisdom.
Any mental immaturity is surely due to his young age. (quote)

So he had to have no clue what his real name was and adapted his to to this mysterious xehanort. Then i thought about the extended secret ending in final mix 2. The old guy that comes to attack the chasers.I thought maybe he was this mysterious xehanort it talked about in the secret ansem report #1. So maybe the xehanort in the present is some how related to the past one just like sora and Roxas are some how related to one of the chasers.

Okay and heres my new stuff. Well in teh pic were it shows the old guy(Xehanort?) and Terra(I think). I rememberd when you beat him he's say stuff about how he hates asnem ect. Well seeing how it shows him with the old guy were it looks how there going to fight or sumthin it would seem as if he's the mysterious Xehanort.

[La Sofa]

lol Here let me clear it up for you.

1.Organization 13 is probably not coming back in kh3. Just in kh 352/2 which a prequal that is during Roxas' time. Were you play his story line.

2.The bald guy is Xehanort. Heres a theory for that.
(quote)

If I explore Xehanort's heart with psychological tests, I may be able to
recall the past locked away within. My apprentice Even has also shown great
interest in Xehanort's memories. (quote)

Then i of course thought of the secret ending in kh2 were it said xehanorts lost memories. And then i thought wait it isnt talking about ansems aprentice xehanort (in any of his forms. Regular,Heartless and nobody) It was talking about a completely different person. Then i thought isn't it odd this mysterious new Xehanort has the same name as the main bad guy Sora fights? But it also says in the secret Ansem Reports

(quote)He had lost all his memories at the time, but later showed remarkable
intellectual curiosity and readily absorbed my teachings, gaining deep wisdom.
Any mental immaturity is surely due to his young age. (quote)

So he had to have no clue what his real name was and adapted his to to this mysterious xehanort. Then i thought about the extended secret ending in final mix 2. The old guy that comes to attack the chasers.I thought maybe he was this mysterious xehanort it talked about in the secret ansem report #1. So maybe the xehanort in the present is some how related to the past one just like sora and Roxas are some how related to one of the chasers.

Okay and heres my new stuff. Well in teh pic were it shows the old guy(Xehanort?) and Terra(I think). I rememberd when you beat him he's say stuff about how he hates asnem ect. Well seeing how it shows him with the old guy were it looks how there going to fight or sumthin it would seem as if he's the mysterious Xehanort.

*Brain dies* Thanks for clearing it up! :D

[Knightshade]

*Brain dies* Thanks for clearing it up! :D
Sure lol. If you have any other questions just pm me I like to find out everything that been released as soon as it's posted here on the site.

[La Sofa]

Sure lol. If you have any other questions just pm me I like to find out everything that been released as soon as it's posted here on the site.

Okay I will! :D ^^

[Thebazilly]

I don't think that the 14th member is related to Aqua in any way. The series needs a new character, and that's what we're going to get. Birth By Sleep takes place before KH1, so why would Aqua or her Nobody be in 358/2 Days? I think the fact that Xemnas has her armor proves that Aqua is dead.

[SoulSlayer]

I don't think that the 14th member is related to Aqua in any way. The series needs a new character, and that's what we're going to get. Birth By Sleep takes place before KH1, so why would Aqua or her Nobody be in 358/2 Days? I think the fact that Xemnas has her armor proves that Aqua is dead.

Why does Ven look EXACTLY (seriously, every spike in is hair matches), like Roxas, when Roxas didn't exist yet before Sora even had a keyblade? Also, Xemnas actually talks to that armor (he says "Long time no see, my friend"). So I'd assume she's still in there alive... Or maybe he just gets a kick out of talking to dead girls? But I think that's pushing it a bit...

[Thebazilly]

The Ven-Roxas similarity, I can't explain. I guess we'll just have to wait for the game on that one.

And that's exactly what I think. Xemnas just likes talking to dead people.

There's going to be a new character.

[Lord Knight Xiron]

Why does Ven look EXACTLY (seriously, every spike in is hair matches), like Roxas, when Roxas didn't exist yet before Sora even had a keyblade? Also, Xemnas actually talks to that armor (he says "Long time no see, my friend"). So I'd assume she's still in there alive... Or maybe he just gets a kick out of talking to dead girls? But I think that's pushing it a bit...

He's talking to Aqua's empty armour. Not Aqua. This either means that she's dead and wasn't buried in her armour, or she left her armour to live another life, leaving Xemnas behind and all he has left to remind him of her is her armour. But as this second one seems to be leading to a XemnasXAqua relationship, I'm gonna go with the first one.

And about Ven and Roxas, I have no clue. But it is rather coincidental that Ven looks like Sora's Nobody and Terra looks (somewhat) like Xehanort's nobody....

...So, saying that, perhaps this new member will look almost exactly like Aqua, but will be a different character's nobody! Bwahaha! I figured something out!

[Akino]

...So, saying that, perhaps this new member will look almost exactly like Aqua, but will be a different character's nobody! Bwahaha! I figured something out!

That... that may be possible.

But I'm going with Thebazilly one this one. Until someone proves me wrong. But a new character isn't SO bad. Hey, I mean the 14th member will be gone by the end of the game. So what's the use of adding a Aqua look-a-like?

[[s y n n e ]]

It's a another Larxene xD ((girl wise))

I'm excited! Watch it is someone we least expect it to be ((sora's MOM????!!!))

But Aqua seems like reasonable person to guess ^^ haha =D

I just wait for the game x3

[Lord Knight Xiron]

That... that may be possible.

But I'm going with Thebazilly one this one. Until someone proves me wrong. But a new character isn't SO bad. Hey, I mean the 14th member will be gone by the end of the game. So what's the use of adding a Aqua look-a-like?

I dunno. It just popped into my head. And like you said, it is a possibility. However unlikely.

Maybe she quit the Organization before Sora came and killed everyone for no reason, and she'll have some kind of major plot line in the next chronological game (KH3)

[Akino]

I dunno. It just popped into my head. And like you said, it is a possibility. However unlikely.

Maybe she quit the Organization before Sora came and killed everyone for no reason, and she'll have some kind of major plot line in the next chronological game (KH3)

Oooooh, I'll be looking forward to that! Maybe she knew something would happen to the Organization and she left so she wouldn't fade away that easily. Or she did something to betray the organization there for, not keeping it Org.XIV in KH2. (Hey, they didn't call it Org.VIV ... or whatever number they had left. I suck at roman numorals.)

Y'know some odd reason, her somebody might my a possible canidate for Riku's love interest or something. DON'T HIT ME WITH A BRICK! D:

[O R A N G E]

Aqua is a character from "the distant past". The Organization is relatively current.

How would it even be possible?

[Lord Knight Xiron]

Aqua is a character from "the distant past". The Organization is relatively current.

How would it even be possible?


I'm not saying that she's Aqua's nobody. Go and read my post on the last page.

[N.Ø.I.$.E]

shes going to KICK a$$


Heartless*

[Gravity]

I don't think it's Aqua, and I don't think it's going to be a character that we've seen before. They probably just made a totally different character and found a way to plug her into the rest of the story somehow. It sounds like a fangirl's dream to me, but heck...I'm not complaining. Too many guys...

I hope she doesn't turn out to be the world's evilest Mary-Sue, created by the daughter of Nomura's cousin or something stupid like that. >.<

[N.Ø.I.$.E]

I hope she doesn't turn out to be the world's evilest Mary-Sue, created by the daughter of Nomura's cousin or something stupid like that. >.<

ohhhhhhh that would be bad!!

Heartless*

[Akino]

I hope she doesn't turn out to be the world's evilest Mary-Sue, created by the daughter of Nomura's cousin or something stupid like that. >.<

*Clings onto the 14th member* NOOOO! She better not be a mary-sue from the Darkness! She's too good for that stuff.

[methol]

VERY GOOD THEORY RIGHT HERE

well seeing as xehanort (old man version) is the xehanort before he was turned into a heartless obviously this new game will sort out his past story.
i have no idea as to the possible connection with ven-roxas-sora except for the obvious look alike similaritys but hey its possible the sora is a relative of ven right?

anyway back to xenmans-aqua connection.

we know that secret scenes in KHII:FM took place before the actual kingdom hearts 2 game as we hear zexion and others talking about the recruitment of Marluxia. in this scene zexion or vecen speaks about the room of sleep or something like that and then later we see xenmas entering this room and we see aquas armour on the floor.

xenmas says "hello old friend"....its well known that you lose all memories of your past being when you become a nobody or a heartless SOOO there is no way he is possibly able to remember who aqua was unless he knew who her while in the nobody form.

now we must be reminded of something.
'
xehanort has gone through 2 transformations

1 is from an old man to the young xehanort or ansems apprentice

2 is from ansems apprentice into the heartless form and the nobody form

Twice he has lost his memories.

so wether or not xehanort has become a heartless twice or a nobody twice is unkown but if it is true then its very possible that we know of his nobody and his other heartless in some way shape or form, who it is i dont know.

BUT

we know that where this room that aquas armour is found is in a jail area where we can assume is called the "basement" that test subjects were kept as seen in the ansem reports....if this is correct then we would assume that aqua became a test subject of ansems and thus turned into a heartless or a possible nobody.

if xenmas regained these memories and made his way down to the basement and found aquas nobody he would no doubt recruit her....why she wasnt a part of the original 13th org i dont know.

but it would explain the armour on the floor and the relinquished keyblade as a nobody couldnt carry it.

just my theory so heres a summary.

- its possible xehanort could have 2 heartless and 2 nobody forms

- i dont know the ven-roxas-sora link

- aqua could of been the test subject of ansem and so the new nobody is aquas nobody

- its possible that xenmas has regained his memories of his past beings through reports or other means.


besides that i really dont know but hey its the best we got.

also im preety sure the mobile game should be disregarded as a peice of money making fiction that will work much like COM did

XxmetholxX

[SoulSlayer]

well seeing as xehanort (old man version) is the xehanort before he was turned into a heartless

You already start out wrong. Master Xehanort (bald man) was not the one to turn himself into a heartless. That was Professor Xehanort. Here's (http://www.kingdomhearts3.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/kh2fm_86.png) a picture of him. He experimented on himself and turned himself into a heartless which also created a nobody. I don't see why I should read the rest of your theories when you already start with such a big mistake. Also, personally I think Professor Xehanort is Master Xehanort's apprentice (wearing the helmet and the suit Riku wears when in dark mode).

[Luka]

yeah i think there's two xehanorts too

[[s y n n e ]]

I think we need pictures in our post too @___@

@methol:

I think i got more confused...I got it - but then I got lost in my thoughts .... maybe someone should draw a diagram...

[Lord Knight Xiron]

VERY GOOD THEORY RIGHT HERE

XxmetholxX

Uhh...yeah.

Baldy's name is Xehanort. That means nothing. How many Ansems have there been so far? This confirms that the Xehanort we know is connected to Master Xehanort somehow, but not that they are the same person. Anyone else realize here that baldy and Xehanort look nothing alike other than their choice of clothing?

You don't lose your memories when you become a nobody. Roxas did either because Sora regained his body and continued living as Sora, or because Namine screwed Sora's memories so badly. I don't know which, but it is special to Roxas. Remember, Xemnas remembers abandoning the name Xehanort for Ansem as well as the heartless factory and the password to get into the Room of Sleep, and others give hints that they remember their former selves.

And nobodies can carry keyblades, unless I missed something and Roxas isn't really using keyblades.

I do agree that the Room of Sleep is the prison where they kept their test subjects. Especially since it is right below the heartless factory. I also agree with that Aqua may have been one of the expiriments (I mean, hey. If you were testing the darkness of the heart, wouldn't you want to test out a keybearer?)

[Goofy]

Hm.. I'm thinking it COULD be either Aqua's nobody, or a one-off character. If it's a one-off character, she has a slim possibility of being related somehow to the main characters (like somebody jokingly said it COULD be Sora's mom for all we know) but one thing's for sure, if Xemnas welcomed her in, and noticing how I-VI refer to their "recruits", she must be a Nobody for her to have been taken in by the Organization. So, best chances are that she is related to Aqua, or she is her own character, and something became of her that caused her not to be with remaining faction of the Organization during KHII... Doesn't QUITE mean she was offed, but does mean something between her and the other Organization members happened...

[key dragon]

Hm.. I'm thinking it COULD be either Aqua's nobody, or a one-off character. If it's a one-off character, she has a slim possibility of being related somehow to the main characters (like somebody jokingly said it COULD be Sora's mom for all we know) but one thing's for sure, if Xemnas welcomed her in, and noticing how I-VI refer to their "recruits", she must be a Nobody for her to have been taken in by the Organization. So, best chances are that she is related to Aqua, or she is her own character, and something became of her that caused her not to be with remaining faction of the Organization during KHII... Doesn't QUITE mean she was offed, but does mean something between her and the other Organization members happened...

AQUA...IS...NOT...SORA'S...MOM...

[Knightshade]

Well one thing we pretty much know is that this 14th member is still alive. So I could see a new organization 13 in future games.

[Akino]

Well one thing we pretty much know is that this 14th member is still alive. So I could see a new organization 13 in future games.

How do we know the 14th member is still alive during the time of KH2? For all we know, she could have faded back into the darkness.

[Knightshade]

I know i'm just saying most likely she's alive.

[Xerokuzai]

Maybe the 14th member became whole again

in COM i don't seem to remember them trying or discussing becoming whole again

(if they did talk about that in COM ignore this post)

And so maybe she was the first one to do it, and they wanted to follow her lead

Their original goal might have been something completely different then finding their hearts

[Goofy]

AQUA...IS...NOT...SORA'S...MOM...I didn't say that at all. You must have missed the point.

[Thebazilly]

Maybe the 14th member became whole again

in COM i don't seem to remember them trying or discussing becoming whole again

(if they did talk about that in COM ignore this post)

And so maybe she was the first one to do it, and they wanted to follow her lead

Their original goal might have been something completely different then finding their hearts
Actually Axel said to Larxene in CoM, "Isn't that the entire point of the Organization? To understand the mysteries of the heart?" Which implies that they were looking for hearts then, too.

[Xerokuzai]

Actually Axel said to Larxene in CoM, "Isn't that the entire point of the Organization? To understand the mysteries of the heart?" Which implies that they were looking for hearts then, too.

But does it imply that they knew they could become whole again with kingdom hearts?

seems more like they were stll just looking to study them from what you said

[Thebazilly]

*Shrugs.* You could be right. There's just not enough evidence right now.

[Xerokuzai]

true but its always fun to theorize right?

I'm most likely wrong like usual xD

[Vex123]

i guess that shes aqua in disguise, trying to destroy Org.XIII from within, but Xemnas saw through it and imprisoned her in the Room of Sleep, which is why of course he called her an "old friend" in FM.

[Akino]

^^^

But Aqua was from the Distant Past. I don't think she would have fit her armor anymore (By aging of course.) by the time of Org.XIII/XIV

[Xerokuzai]

but how far in the past i exactly the "distant past"

could have been.....maybe 5 years ago

How long ago was it when Ansem the wise found terra/Xehanort?

It might have been around that time

[Akino]

Well for me. I think the 14th member was created after Roxas. Or at least found after him. Seemingly that she joined when Roxas was already part of the Organization. Aqua on the other hand, we don't know what exactly happened to her just yet. But we'll soon find out.

But didn't Xigbar say that it was many years ago of the time of the many Keyblade Bearers?

[Xerokuzai]

In Kh2 he said "The Other's before you were better"

or something like that

If he said something differnt in FM+ then i dunno

but i never remember him saying a certain time in kh2

[Akino]

Argh. =_=;; I should've edited my post. Anyways.

The scene where him and Zexion were talking about the Room of Sleep. He said something about the Keyblade War being many years ago. And seeing the three keyblade bearers when he was still whole. (I have to rewatch it.) A KH2FM+ scene

... Seeing that Terra and Ven went to Hollow Bastion during the time of BBS will be taking place. It must have been a few years ago, but at least near a decade. ... Now I forgot what I was about to say. I hate being sick, I tend to forget things.

[Xerokuzai]

I'm sorry that you're sick ><

but yeah, i don't remember many things about fm+

I watched the videos maybe 2 times and yeah :p

I wonder if we will need to play BBS in order to get this though

I know that they will be talking more about Aqua in that game

What if the 14th member is just some person who happened to become a nobody by pure coincidence

[Akino]

Awe, thanks. I'll get better in about... until March of 2008. I live in a city where everyone gets a cold for almost six months. Sadly, it's almost Cold season.

Back on topic.

I don't think BBS will come out before 358/2 days, will it? Seeming that this will be a DS game, it'll come out a bit earlier. Or they'll probably come out the same day? (Awe, more money saving for me.) But yes, BBS will have mor Aqua than 358/2. :3
If number XIV were to just be a random person who became a nobdy, she or her somebody will bound to have a part in KH3. Pure coincidence? PLEASE. xD She has to have a very good reason why they made her join the Organization, not by coincidence.

Why do I have a feeling that she'll be the next female character that will be sooned bashed by fangirls?

[Xerokuzai]

You never know xD

Maybe it went like this

14: Oh its great to be whole and not a heartless or a nobody *heartless pimp smack*

14: oh noez i lose

2 seconds later

14th: dooodeedooo doo Hay wutz that big castle lolol and how come i gots no emotions

Xemnas: Yo, wanna join are club, we had no girls allowed but as you can see we let marluxia and larxene in

14: wutz in it for me?

Xemnas: well you get a cool black coat and an X in your name...pluss free dental

14: That.....sounds....AWESOME

*high five*

[Akino]

14th: HEY, Xerokuzai, that's not how I joined! D< I joined by ------ *Babbles on but nobody can't understand her*

LOLOLOLOL. OH Xemnas, whatever happened to the 'Girls have cooties'?

But really, there HAS to be a reason why they let her joined... Organization XIII. xD They can't just go over their member limit!

[Xerokuzai]

Well I don't believe that Organization XIII ever referred themselves with the number

They've only just said the "Organization"

I BELIEVE THATS WHAT THEY SAID ANYWAY


Maybe the 14th member was the guy who got turned into a heartless at the start of Traverse Town In the 2nd district xDDDDDDDDDDD that would be priceless

[Akino]

SORA CALLED DEM ORGANIZATION THIRTEEN!!!111!!!one!!!11!!!eleven!

xDD ? I blame the late night posting. ANYWAYS.

I haven't played KH, or even own it, so... I don't know what happened in Traverse Town in the 2nd District. So, if it were that person, prepare for a angry mob of fans. x]
But what EYES (LOL) believe that 14th was created a few days/weeks after Roxas joined the Organization. I DEMAND WE GIVE 14th AN UNOFFICIAL KH-VIDS NAME! D< C'MON WE GAVE TERRA, AQUA, VEN AND GEEZERNORT A NAME BEFORE THEIR NAMES CAME OUT! WHY NOT 14th?!

... Can we call her Fluffy? xD

[Xerokuzai]

SORA CALLED DEM ORGANIZATION THIRTEEN!!!111!!!one!!!11!!!eleven!

SORA SED IT?

OMFGNUBCAKESLOLOLROFLCOPTER I GOTTA BELIEVE NOW

IT MUST BE TRUE !)(WJSNUOZ*(DGEV#@B


And no we are naming her UOM

Unknown organization member

Because we have to go with the trend of using 3 abbreviated letters xD

[Akino]

Fine, but when I read it! I'll think UOM will be Fluffy! D< Because we all know she'll look uberly kick-butt with a cutesy name. (C'mon, Aqua sounds to girly... but it fits.)

And yes, you must believe. Now, for a believeable theory on how Fluffy/UOM/14th Organization XIII. I think, that she joined because Xemnas... Xemnas... *Thinks* OKAY, maybe that she slightly looked like Aqua. And he let her joined because he wanted to regain his memories, and for that reason he let her join because being around the nobdy of a person you're somebody/past self knew will make your memories regain more quicker.

... THAT didn't make sense. D:
And I don't want to go with that 'She can also weild a keyblade too.' theory. Wait for tomorrow, I'll have a more realistic one by then. But for now, off to bed for me! Night Xerokuzai!

[Xerokuzai]

okay good night

[Repliku]

I'm about 60/40 to believing that Aqua or Aqua's Nobody, any way is who the 14th person is, and I don't think she 'infiltrated' the Org. They capture and bring people there to the Org themselves, which was a main job of Xigbar, and then Vexen was given the duty later. I doubt Xemnas would just let someone walk in and be in the Org like that. Yes, Riku and Mickey took Org outfits and were doing their things, but it's clear they weren't just going about the castle and all. Also, I don't think Nobodies age so if it was Aqua, she might look the same. If they awakened her somehow, or brought her there, ...well that stuff for now I'm just not sure on. So I'll stop me ramblin'.

[Bubble Master Califa]

We don't know who she is at all. i think it's Aqua but for all we know it could even be Phisoxa (forum mmeber who is Xemnas's little sister in all her RPs) or anyone at all but it is definitely a woman in my eyes so lets just wait and see...

[music rulz]

they already said that it's a woman and they said it's not namine i am pretty much your opinion that is aquas nobody

[Akino]

I haven't read the new handful of news yet. Just give me time.

Anyways, I've seen the new scans. It seem 14th is around near Roxas' age. But her built anyway, and isn't Aqua older than Ven by a a or two?

[Thebazilly]

Okay. The new info proves that she's a new character. The new scans show that UOM has dark skin (unlike Aqua) and is about the same age as Roxas and Sora (Aqua seems to be older). Also, Nomura said in an interview that she is not Namine, which is also obvious from the picture.

*Bounces with excitement.*

[Akino]

Bazilly! You may have a point. She seems to be a new character. Like you said, she has darker skin than most of the female KH characters. (Haha, and she has the same skin ton as me.) This is very exciting indeed, a new female character! I can't wait to see what she is like!

Now that is down, what is UOM/14th key purpose of the game? Nomura said she was a key part to the story. I wonder what it is. Any guesses?

*Ponders*

[Thebazilly]

Call me Theb, please. ^^

Hmm, I couldn't say. The only thing I could think of is that she wields the keyblade, too, but I don't think there are any other Keyblade wielders in Sora's time.

[Akino]

Theb, alright. :D Nice to meet you.

Anyways. Wait, she can wield a keyblade too? Hmm, why does my brain tell me she could be Aqua's nobody now. Seeming that nobodies can sometimes not look like their somebodies, (I disagree that Roxas looks like Sora.) which in UOM's case. She could have gotten darker skin than Aqua. But that theory is too romantic to my liking.

I don't think that there were any other wielders other than Sora in his time. Unless Nomura is gonna pull another twist again. Oh, that'd be priceless. =_=

[Thebazilly]

Hajimemushi-te! ^^

Yeah, that's why I'm thinking that she can't.

[Akino]

O-o I don't speak japanese but... Nani?

Okay. Her wielding a keyblade, a no no. Unless Nomura pulls something.

Hmm, the only thing I can think up right now is... she could be a nobody of a character in BBS that wasn't mentioned in the trailers? (Aqua didn't seem to be in the trailers either, so yeah.) And the BBS was 10 years ago, so there were many keyblade bearers back then? SO UOM could have a chance to wield a keyblade is her somebody was those wannabe keyblade wairrors. A possibility, but still... not realistic to my liking. Being sick bites, I can't think straight.

I guess we'll have to wait until the japanese release and wait for someone to translate it for us; Or future news.

[deep_dive101]

i think its aqua's nobody cause roxas' first reaction when he sees her was suprised and the other reasons i cant type cause im lazy^^

[Thebazilly]

It means "How do you do?" or "Nice to meet you." ^^ I don't speak much Japanese either, but I can read some of it.

So... pretty much all we've figured out for sure is that she's not Namine. Which I already knew was impossible.

[SavageNymph]

Yes, "Hajimemashi-te" is only used when you meet someone for the first time.

I probably can help out with some of the Japanese - I am learning it at the moment ^^;;

[key dragon]

Well at least we know that the original human had dark skin.

[Number13Roxas]

The 14 th member will be an interesting new plot device since 358/2 days has the main character a person we know pretty well already (or do we?).

[Goofy]

Ya know, whether this is relevant or not.. Something's really been bugging me.. First of all, Sora never showed any evidence that he remembers what happened during CoM... Second of all, was his character designed to be dim-witted enough not to notice the difference between 13 and 7/8? I mean, it would have made more sense if in CoM they called themselves "Organization XIII", and in KHII they dropped the number and started saying "the Organization". I know, deaths of only 3 out of 5 Organization members were witnessed by Sora & co.. in CoM, but in KHII, I would have wondered why this group calls itself "Organization XIII"... If it's not the number of members, it's something else.. but since it WAS the members, Sora was left to be the dim-witted hero with brash senses and a heart of gold... not even the voice of reason, Goofy, took the time to wonder about it..

I mean it to have some significance to the subject in that, the Organization doesn't adjust its name to fit the current number of living members it has.. so... Well anyway, I think it could possibly be Aqua's nobody... but, then again, our speculation about ASAS and DD were a little... off. For Pete's (yes, that Pete) sake, we thought Roxas was like, 3 different coated individuals, and that Xemnas was two.

[N.Ø.I.$.E]

i beat shes the boss at the ending of the new DS game!

she falls into love...as much as a nobodie can (whos to say she is! a nobodie)..with Axel and when she finds out that Roxas is in love with Axel too and Roxas and Axel sneek around she gets mad and trys to kill roxas BUT ROXAS WINS!


xD


Heartless*

[twilightsbringing]

i beat shes the boss at the ending of the new DS game!

she falls into love...as much as a nobodie can (whos to say she is! a nobodie)..with Axel and when she finds out that Roxas is in love with Axel too and Roxas and Axel sneek around she gets mad and trys to kill roxas BUT ROXAS WINS!


xD


Heartless*

XD *chokes with laughter* Yeah, she does sound like a fanfic character.

[Thebazilly]

i beat shes the boss at the ending of the new DS game!

she falls into love...as much as a nobodie can (whos to say she is! a nobodie)..with Axel and when she finds out that Roxas is in love with Axel too and Roxas and Axel sneek around she gets mad and trys to kill roxas BUT ROXAS WINS!


xD


Heartless*
LOL. No. Just... no.

[Mish]

Well, we know it's definitely not Namine. Aqua... meh.

I'm not sure if I'm happy with some new member showing up out of the blue, either.

I mean.. it's Organization XIII... D:

~moved to upcoming KH section~

EDIT: Didn't realise there already was a thread like this. x_x

~merges~

[key dragon]

Wonder what element the 14th uses?

[Thebazilly]

There's really not much left. I think the best bet is darkness.

[Akino]

I agree with Theb. Because Marluxia took the power of flowers... ^_^; What was his element again?

Roxas' power is light, right? So yeah, I guess darkness works. This a possible canidate.

[koolashley]

Noruma already said it wouldn't be Namine. Plus if it were, they'd have to make a new Kingdom Hearts II, so I'd cross her off the list. I also kinda doubt the idea of Aqua, because her name doesn't have an "X" in it. She looked around Roxas's age, or maybe younger; otherwise, she's just be a shortie-looking-15-year-old.

[key dragon]

I agree with Theb. Because Marluxia took the power of flowers... ^_^; What was his element again?

Roxas' power is light, right? So yeah, I guess darkness works. This a possible canidate.

Marluxia had power over plants.

In regards to the 14th member, I'll agree to darkness. It probably would explain what happens to her in the end.

[Fragmented Tales]

the 14th member maybe related to Aqua and Kairi. Maybe is Kairi's nobody, but she isn't call Namine on that time...XD.. i think her element would be darkness too. And maybe look silmilar to Aqua.

[Akino]

^^^

It can't be Namine. It was just announced that it wasn't. Even if it wasn't, her skin is too dark for Namine. And UOM may be related to Aqua, but highly doubt it.

So we all agree that she may have the power over darkness?

[Bubble Master Califa]

Ya know, whether this is relevant or not.. Something's really been bugging me.. First of all, Sora never showed any evidence that he remembers what happened during CoM... Second of all, was his character designed to be dim-witted enough not to notice the difference between 13 and 7/8? I mean, it would have made more sense if in CoM they called themselves "Organization XIII", and in KHII they dropped the number and started saying "the Organization". I know, deaths of only 3 out of 5 Organization members were witnessed by Sora & co.. in CoM, but in KHII, I would have wondered why this group calls itself "Organization XIII"... If it's not the number of members, it's something else.. but since it WAS the members, Sora was left to be the dim-witted hero with brash senses and a heart of gold... not even the voice of reason, Goofy, took the time to wonder about it..

I mean it to have some significance to the subject in that, the Organization doesn't adjust its name to fit the current number of living members it has.. so... Well anyway, I think it could possibly be Aqua's nobody... but, then again, our speculation about ASAS and DD were a little... off. For Pete's (yes, that Pete) sake, we thought Roxas was like, 3 different coated individuals, and that Xemnas was two.

Well if they calle dit the organization in com but never said organization XIII does that mean that the fourteen the mmeber may have been in the group at that time? (it adds that air of mystery that Nomura may have laid out in the beginning all along. cos most people plan an ending before the beginning don't they?)

[twilightsbringing]

Well, we know it's definitely not Namine. Aqua... meh.

I'm not sure if I'm happy with some new member showing up out of the blue, either.

I mean.. it's Organization XIII... D:

~moved to upcoming KH section~

EDIT: Didn't realise there already was a thread like this. x_x

~merges~

Thanks for moving it! I started this thread before this section was even up. O.o