Some Rumor,

[La Sofa]

I heard some rumor, I am not sure if its true.
But does Axel comes back in kh?

[Knightshade]

I heard some rumor, I am not sure if its true.
But does Axel comes back in kh?

You mean in the kh(3) were they continue from kh2.

[La Sofa]

You mean in the kh(3) were they continue from kh2.

Yeah... In kh3. I am not sure if its true.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

Yeah... In kh3. I am not sure if its true.

Well supposedly you can play as Axel in the new KH game for the DS.

[Alpha Sonix]

I don't know if he's coming back in Kingdom Hearts 3 but I read somewhere that once a Nobody has faded they return to their original selves or something like that.

[La Sofa]

I don't know if he's coming back in Kingdom Hearts 3 but I read somewhere that once a Nobody has faded they return to their original selves or something like that.

If thats true that would be SWEET!

[Oerba Yun Fang]

I don't know if he's coming back in Kingdom Hearts 3 but I read somewhere that once a Nobody has faded they return to their original selves or something like that.

Where did you read that?

[Alpha Sonix]

Where did you read that?

It was in one of Nomura's interviews.

[SoulSlayer]

I don't know if he's coming back in Kingdom Hearts 3 but I read somewhere that once a Nobody has faded they return to their original selves or something like that.

But what if their original selves are heartless? Roxas and Namine had a body to turn back to. Xemnas was supposedly the last remaining part of Professor Xehanort. And the rest of the Org... Well, they might still have heartless walking around. Or maybe Sora freed their heartless' hearts and they went to Kingdom Hearts. But Kingdom Hearts exploded and everything... Oh well...

But I'm sure they'll find a way to bring Axel back "alive". He was the most popular Org member. They brought Roxas back too, didn't they? Only this time he's called Ven.:laughing-smiley-004

[Spitfire]

KH3 Isn't even announced yet, these games are before hand and he shows up 358/2 where you can play as him. But I don't know if they started a KH3 yet.

[Lord Knight Xiron]

Honestly, I would be against them bringing back Axel in KH3.

I love the man, and would probably be happy that he returned (as long as Roxas saw so through Sora).

but honestly, Axel's death was one of the most powerful scenes Square's done since Aeris's death in FFVII. He had to die...for Roxas.

Its like, if you've seen Stranger than Fiction, how even though you're happy that Harold didn't die in the end, it did ruin the book, if you were reading it. If they brought Axel back, it would be a nice happy ending and we'd all be happy that Axel lived, but the story of Axel's death would be ruined.

But that's not to say that he won't be shown again in the series at some point. Remember, he still has to meet Roxas "in the next life."

[Vex123]

That should answer his question.

[ShadowMancer]

That would be something to look forward to...

[Vex123]

it would......

[Thebazilly]

Honestly, I would be against them bringing back Axel in KH3.

I love the man, and would probably be happy that he returned (as long as Roxas saw so through Sora).

but honestly, Axel's death was one of the most powerful scenes Square's done since Aeris's death in FFVII. He had to die...for Roxas.

Its like, if you've seen Stranger than Fiction, how even though you're happy that Harold didn't die in the end, it did ruin the book, if you were reading it. If they brought Axel back, it would be a nice happy ending and we'd all be happy that Axel lived, but the story of Axel's death would be ruined.

But that's not to say that he won't be shown again in the series at some point. Remember, he still has to meet Roxas "in the next life."
EXACTLY! I couldn't have said it better myself. As much as I love Axel... he can't come back. It just wouldn't be fair. Not to the other Organization members, not to Roxas, not even to Axel. Because he'd probably come back as a somebody with a name like "Ale" or "Lea." (LOL) But anyway... he needs to stay dead.

[Akino]

EXACTLY! I couldn't have said it better myself. As much as I love Axel... he can't come back. It just wouldn't be fair. Not to the other Organization members, not to Roxas, not even to Axel. Because he'd probably come back as a somebody with a name like "Ale" or "Lea." (LOL) But anyway... he needs to stay dead.

AGREED. Axel must stay in his grave for the rest of his non-exsistant life! D< His somebody can run around for a while 'til we need him for the next KH game.

[Crumpet]

that would be interesting - but i dont no anything about kh3

[iwantedtoexplode]

That thing about a nobody returning to its original somebody was actually in an interview? That's been my theory for the longest time! It'd be awesome if it were true, but it would totally wreck that scene where Axel dies.

well, my actual theory is that if a persons heartless AND nobody are freed by the keyblade, then they will return to the original person. Maybe it doesn't have to be the keyblade though, I don't know.

[Crumpet]

if zxel came back - then the others probably would too and then whats the point - then again the villians in kh came back didnt they??

[Repliku]

Axel is awesome, and yes, in the KH novel apparently Namine says something about Axel going back to his 'Somebody' but really I'd rather he didn't come back in a way. I don't think they all go back to their 'somebodies' unless those other people existed so if it happened, it'd be a rare thing. Sora and Kairi had unique situations where they weren't consumed by the Heartless, so I don't see this option just being available for every Nobody in KH...to have a body to go back to. It doesn't make any sense. I ponder if that line was even meant to be canon or if the person just took liberties there as others had done things in the manga that were off the wall and extreme.

So in the end, I hope that if he does come back there is some reason given why he has a Somebody and not just that the Nobodies could have done that at any time because it makes no sense to the whole Nobody cause at all. It makes the story weak because they were fighting to be whole people and yet apparently they could have done this at -any time-. Some people like the those lower than 6th in the Org might have just been able then to go away at any time and leave. I'd rather his death meant something significant but if he did figure out a way to ascend back to being a whole person, sure, but they better explain it and hopefully not rape the story doing so.

[rda3]

Axel is awesome, and yes, in the KH novel apparently Namine says something about Axel going back to his 'Somebody' but really I'd rather he didn't come back in a way. I don't think they all go back to their 'somebodies' unless those other people existed so if it happened, it'd be a rare thing. Sora and Kairi had unique situations where they weren't consumed by the Heartless, so I don't see this option just being available for every Nobody in KH...to have a body to go back to. It doesn't make any sense. I ponder if that line was even meant to be canon or if the person just took liberties there as others had done things in the manga that were off the wall and extreme.

So in the end, I hope that if he does come back there is some reason given why he has a Somebody and not just that the Nobodies could have done that at any time because it makes no sense to the whole Nobody cause at all. It makes the story weak because they were fighting to be whole people and yet apparently they could have done this at -any time-. Some people like the those lower than 6th in the Org might have just been able then to go away at any time and leave. I'd rather his death meant something significant but if he did figure out a way to ascend back to being a whole person, sure, but they better explain it and hopefully not rape the story doing so.

That's very true, Axel's death meant something because he died trying to help Sora save Kiari and to kill the rest of the Org. That and he thought that he could eventually see Roxas again. Him coming back would make it seem like he knew that it would happen or something, you know?

[Darkwatch]

How does this thread pertain to KH: BBS?

And to answer the initial question, it is very likely he will, since he was a significant character to Sora, Roxas, Kairi and Riku. Especially because he was so close to Roxas, who was Sora's nobody.

[SӓiḺØr N.Ø.I.$.E]

i think axel wont be in KH3...but his somebody might show up kinda like a leon...or cloud
give info
help fight alittle
then leave

but who knows

[George Costanza]

I doubt it. He no longer has any real important.

[P]

Meh. I did not find his death all that powerful. Oh, boom, some dusks are dead. Hah. He saved Sora from dusks. How pathetic. I might have been impressed if it had been against saix, but Dusks? Sorry, I cannot appreciate his death.

[animefan11]

I don't know if he's coming back in Kingdom Hearts 3 but I read somewhere that once a Nobody has faded they return to their original selves or something like that.

Actually it's if their heartless is still alive, they fade into darkness, or if their heartless has already been destroyed, they fade into light (whatever the hell that means).

[Zeftnon - The Superior]

Meh. I did not find his death all that powerful. Oh, boom, some dusks are dead. Hah. He saved Sora from dusks. How pathetic. I might have been impressed if it had been against saix, but Dusks? Sorry, I cannot appreciate his death.

Don't forget that Axel had his ass kicked at least 4 times already; Xemnas died at 6, so Axel was already very weak in KH2, not to mention he was on the run from the Organization. Finally, he performed a suicide attack by using all his power to blow himself up on the dusks when he was so weak already. It's the fact that he sacrificed himself for a good friend while he was so weak that makes his death sad.

[Number13Roxas]

I don't know if he's coming back in Kingdom Hearts 3 but I read somewhere that once a Nobody has faded they return to their original selves or something like that.

NO the fate of all Nobodies is almost always to fade back into the darkness of nothing with the rare exception of Namine and Roxas who returned to their original selves.

[Revelry]

Honestly, I would be against them bringing back Axel in KH3.

I love the man, and would probably be happy that he returned (as long as Roxas saw so through Sora).

but honestly, Axel's death was one of the most powerful scenes Square's done since Aeris's death in FFVII. He had to die...for Roxas.

Its like, if you've seen Stranger than Fiction, how even though you're happy that Harold didn't die in the end, it did ruin the book, if you were reading it. If they brought Axel back, it would be a nice happy ending and we'd all be happy that Axel lived, but the story of Axel's death would be ruined.

But that's not to say that he won't be shown again in the series at some point. Remember, he still has to meet Roxas "in the next life."

Couldnt agree more. Kill axel off and then have a cutscene with him saying "Hiya fellas! Im still alive got it memorized?!" the best he can get now...or at least the best he should get now, is a cameo appearance. They did it with Aeris. But even that would be weird if Axel was back...maybe in kh5 if there ever is one, xD

[Whoa Its Jose]

He could always be like a ghost or spirit.
Where, he talks to Sora in some echoing, ambient tone and gives words of inspiration and yadda yadda.
Or, we could see a picture of his somebody.

I've always pictured his somebody as someone with calmer hair, glasses, a constant reader and, actually, kind of wealthy.

But, his somebody can't be living because then it would be like "WTF? WHY DIND'T HE JUST GO BACK TO HIM?!"
Unless he wasn't aware he was dead or something.
Which wouldn't really make sense at all, really.


Long story short, Axel is pretty much dead for good.

[soul899er]

xD >_> No Sir, Axel needs to stay dead, they need to do something new, i mean the Organization thing is over so keep it that way, next vilain please!

[Mielé]

xD >_> No Sir, Axel needs to stay dead, they need to do something new, i mean the Organization thing is over so keep it that way, next vilain please!

there will be no villian to replace organization XIII! never! *runs off*

[Mild Wind]

Maybe something triggered when Axel was with Roxas -
I mean they actually thought that they had hearts '_'

If he comes back I would laugh xD

But I don't think his real name is lea or ale because Xemnas's name is fake....So Xemnas's real name is Xehanort >_>;

[Repliku]

As much as I thought Axel was cool, as others said, it would ruin the powerful effect of his death scene. Also, I don't think Nobodies can go back to their 'Somebodies' if their Somebodies are Heartless or killed Heartless. That would pretty well make no sense. If they could have been restored they would have tried that. If Nomura planned it in such a way, I hope he explains it better because that makes no sense at all and totally makes Xemnas's and the Org's plight for nada.

I really do in a way hope to see other things besides the Org now. We had the Dark Council, then the Organization and I hope the new enemies will be interesting too and keep in progression instead of stagnating at one group. If Axel did come back, I'd assume he cheated death a 3rd or 4th time, whatever number it is.

[Clontox]

I think Axel gained a new heart out of his affection for Roxas and thus comes back.

[marluxia_rules13]

Well supposedly you can play as Axel in the new KH game for the DS.
YEAH IM SO HAPPY I LOVE AXEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lord Knight Xiron]

Meh. I did not find his death all that powerful. Oh, boom, some dusks are dead. Hah. He saved Sora from dusks. How pathetic. I might have been impressed if it had been against saix, but Dusks? Sorry, I cannot appreciate his death.

Well, then, you apparently have no sense of scale or power. I mean, it takes about three hits for Sora to kill just one Dusk in the game, and there were easily several thousand surrounding them at that point. Axel was obviously fighting them since long before Sora arrived, and was probably down to his last bits of strength when the partner battle began (hence why he keeps stopping to pant during the battle).

Think about the effort it takes to get through one thousand heartless in the game - something that takes probably ten to fifteen minutes, with reaction commands that can kill them in one hit. That's one third of the strength it would take Axel's attack to destroy a Dusk. Now, Axel kills off probably twice as many Nobodies here as Sora in the thousand heartless battle, each requiring three times as much strength (a total of a six thousand heartless battle) in just a few seconds, already weakened. He knew that this was suicide, and that he and Sora would not have both made it through alive no matter what. So, to keep Sora/Roxas alive, he took out all of them.

This sufficiently put it in context?

And, on topic, all of that, just for Roxas? That's rather a lot, for it to mean nothing, and for him to just come back out of nowhere. Retarded.

[Xendran]

you cna play as him in 358/2 but im not sure about kh3. that woule bre pretty sweet though.

[trulove13]

I luv Axel no doubt, But it would be SO difficult to bring him back, they would have to have him cheat death, Escape from nothingness or Somehow make him his somebody. If he was ever a somebody or have a heart, The most logical thing to make everyone happy was that he earned it when he sacrificed his life or done something else to earn a second chance. And the only way he'd want to live again is if he couldn't find Roxas or any of his friends. Another thing that could prove he comes back was when he said "See you in the next life" but that could mean anything, Life or Death......

We won't know until KH3 comes out.

[Star_Seeker]

I really love Axel, but I don't think he should come back. Like the others said, if he came back, it would totally ruin the significance of his sacrifice. The fact that he killed himself saving someone he cared about leaves you with a completely different perspective of him, and it makes you wonder if all Nobodies are truly heartless. If he just came back after all that, then what was the point of creating a touching death scene instead of the scenes where he just acted like he died again?

If or when there is a KH3, it would be cool if he had a camio or if we actually got lucky enough to see his Somebody, but he shouldn't have any other important roles to play now. Under the slim circumstance that Axel actually does come back, it probably means that Nomura's got something seriously BIG up his sleeve...

I think the biggest role Axel has in the future is his character in 358/2 Days. I'm looking forward to it. :3

[trulove13]

Agreeing with you Star_seeker, His death had so much significance it made me and my sister cry a little bit (My sis loved him more, i'm a demyx fangirl), Roxas was probably like a little brother to him so he sacrificed himself for him and also to be with him too..... AHHH I MISS THE ORGANIZATION, NO ENEMY CAN TOP THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(:(:(

[*TwilightNight*]

First off:

VIII. "When the heartless are defeated, what becomes of the stolen hearts? Also, when members of Organization XIII and other Nobodies are defeated, do they return to their original form?

When heartless are defeated, essentially the owner's hearts are rejoined with their once extenguished body, whichever world it may be on. As for the whereabouts of hearts in KHII that turn up, this time they remarkably went to the Organization (there is a foot note here that says "In Kingdom Hearts II after heartless were defeated, the many hearts were absorbed by the Kingdom Hearts of "people's hearts"). However, in the rare case that the body changed into a Nobody and when there is no container for the heart, it resorts to a state of suspension.

In the case of a Nobody being defeated, it's a little more complicated. If the above mentioned hearts are liberated, they return to their original form. However, if the heart is still stolen by the heartless, the Nobody's body is swallowed by darkness. If somewhere in the world their hearts are taken back, perhaps they might be able to return to their original human form.

Basically, to break it down, your Heartless is destroyed, the heart goes free and stays in a state of suspension. If your Nobody is killed after, then you can return to your original form easily. Which is, what happened to Axel, I'm guessing.

However, if your Nobody is killed first, and the heart is still stuck on the Heartless, the body will be swallowed by the darkness. In that case, if your heart is free after that happens, is harder, cause now it depends on a maybe that you can return or not.

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And Naminé, in the KH2 Novel, already confirmed that Axel didn't die, but returned to his original form. Not Somebody, original form.

The only other that might also return is...Xehanort. His Heartless, as we all know, was destroyed in KH1, his Nobody in KH2. Since he's the main villain, is understandable that there would be a last, and final battle with him, which might harness into....KH3.

I really doubt that after 358/2, BBS, and Coded, there wouldn't be a final game to tie it all in and end it (Hopefully. As much as I love KH, I wouldn't want it to be dragged on and on until the franchise had been squeezed its juice out. Is not FF)

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BTW, I think this thread belongs in the KH2 Section, not the BBS one. Just to say o.O.

Personally, to answer it, I will like it, a small cameo to see a type of reunion to Sora/Roxas, but then that would be it. Seriously. Axel has CoM. KH2. 358/2 Days. And a chance his Somebody might appear in KH3. Oh, let's not forget the mangas and novels. Enough. Holy-! While I like and hate Axel (for his CoM persona sometimes, is unforgivable to me, "sacrifice" or no "sacrifice") at the same time, I'm really getting tired of all the attention and focus he is getting. There are 12 other members in Organization XIII. Twelve other people that never have the proper screen time, or never have the chance to be developed, and to put it plainly, is unfair. Incredibly UNFAIR, in my honest opinion. There are other members that fans love, other characters, and I'm sick of Axel being on the forefront all the time. Hell, if you count the screen time the redhead has had (and please do so, if you think I'm exaggerating), he even has more than Roxas (minus 358/2 Days, but considering the scans, that's even questionable -_-). Axel even has his action figure in the KH line-up. Is kind of sad. I hate when a director or his company play favorites, this is exactly what happens.

You all probably don't agree with me, but I wanted to get that out there anyway.

Of course, while the new Org. game, or Roxas's game, might get into their personalities more, I'm hoping that Nomura will keep that word about showing the rest. I feel awful for the CoM members, however, their period to shine will always be short and rare :/. At least Nomura gave them Re: CoM, instead of them just being in a Game Boy, being Org. member sprites, in a game of a sidestory...that supposely you don't have to play.

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