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Amethyst Grave
10-14-2007, 12:01 AM
...well, thats what I think anyway. What about you guys?

tummer
10-14-2007, 12:04 AM
humans are like animals. and we do have the power to kill and do stuff other animals can do.

X-thor
10-14-2007, 12:13 AM
humans are like animals. and we do have the power to kill and do stuff other animals can do.

Humans are animals... But yes the humans are the most dangerouse ones

Amethyst Grave
10-14-2007, 12:21 AM
Because, Being the most intelligent, we have the power to make an entire speices extint, example, there used to be so much blue whales swimming about until we found other uses for them

Spitfire
10-14-2007, 07:53 AM
Who said we are the most intellegente. What makes us special is that we found a way a exploit other animals early on. But anyways, yea humans are dangerous, we are a society that is forever removed from the group as a whole. Our solidarity makes us dangerous. Human will envitably destroy themselves, and no one will give a crap because no one cares to help anyone but themselves.

8730
10-14-2007, 12:44 PM
Humans are the most dangerous I would agree yes. That is because of our sentience. We no longer rely solely on base instinct. We think logically. It is how we have survived so long. We can adapt massively to change. We can exploit anything and everything around us to suit our needs. Humans are also dangerous from the fact that we are as much a danger to ourselves as we are to everything else. We are more likely to kill each other off than anything else really =/. Also, as Spitfire said, we have managed to remove ourselves from the natural processes and cycles of the Earth. We enter into almost every ecosystem on the planet and usually rip it to shreds. We, as a species, do not work in symbiosis very well =/.

White_Rook
10-15-2007, 03:23 AM
The 3-toed Sloth has enough muscular strength to stab a hole the size of an apple in your chest. The Blue Ringed Octopus can induce paralysis and death a mere 3 minutes after exposure to its venom. There are at least 100 times the number of insects on our planet than humans-- if they were all carnivorous they'd be the dominating species. We are certainly innovative, and it's that accumulated ingenuity, along with our ability for higher reasoning, that has made us the dominant species on the planet. But if you take away all of that we're pretty low on the other end of the food chain. In a 4 way match between a tiger, polar bear, cobra, and human, ingenuity and higher reasoning alone just wouldn't be able to do the trick.

KeybladeMaster123
10-15-2007, 07:58 AM
The 3-toed Sloth has enough muscular strength to stab a hole the size of an apple in your chest. The Blue Ringed Octopus can induce paralysis and death a mere 3 minutes after exposure to its venom. There are at least 100 times the number of insects on our planet than humans-- if they were all carnivorous they'd be the dominating species. We are certainly innovative, and it's that accumulated ingenuity, along with our ability for higher reasoning, that has made us the dominant species on the planet. But if you take away all of that we're pretty low on the other end of the food chain. In a 4 way match between a tiger, polar bear, cobra, and human, ingenuity and higher reasoning alone just wouldn't be able to do the trick.

Ofcourse if you take that away we wouldnt be the dominant species we'd just be another animal so to speak.... and a fight with a tiger, polar bear,cobra and a human, igenuity would make a massive diference to what the outcome of the fight might be, thats how weve been able to become the dominant species, with igenuity the human would most likely assess his situation and find a solution to it

Crumpet
10-15-2007, 08:01 AM
i agree that humans are the most dangerous, but they can also be the most selfless, we are trying to save animals who are nearing extinction, we have pets who we love, and we are creating a better society

saxoR_vs_aroS
10-15-2007, 11:48 AM
Agreed, yet..... we are saving animals. But would those animals be extinct if not for us? Bunter brought up a good point. Because of our ability to adapt, and ability to plan, to exploit, we have become the dominant species. Where would this planet be without us? Definately not about to be fried because of a depleting Ozone layer.

White_Rook
10-15-2007, 03:28 PM
Ofcourse if you take that away we wouldnt be the dominant species we'd just be another animal so to speak.... and a fight with a tiger, polar bear,cobra and a human, igenuity would make a massive diference to what the outcome of the fight might be, thats how weve been able to become the dominant species, with igenuity the human would most likely assess his situation and find a solution to it

Assessing a situation doesn't imply finding a resolution for it. The human would win "conceptually" (Had he/she had the proper resources, equipment, a gun, or what have you).

newman
10-15-2007, 10:53 PM
Humans are the most dangerous,as we kill for sport. The animals kill to survive mostly.We kill them as well as each other very irresponsibly.

KissesOfKunai
10-16-2007, 02:21 AM
Now that you think of it, Humans are basically nothing without hi-tec gadgets or weapons. Heck, thousands of years ago we are like the lowest of the low with really nothing to defend us at all. It wasn't until we discovered weapons such as spears and arrows etc when we climbed to the top of the food chain.

Yes, we do kill animals for sport, for fun, for no reason. But isn't that what we are? I mean, a lioness doesn't care what the zebra thinks when it's trying to kill it. They just want to for food. Most people don't care if you step on an ant. Even the ant hill that the ant is from might not care since it got zillions of ants.

Sure there are those people who protect animals because they are going extinct. But there will always be those people who will want to kill them because that animal is rare. Even if you are the nicest person in the world and you haven't done a single bad thing ever, you will always get that moment where you will say, "Why do I care? As long as I'm fine, I don't need to worry." It's not like everytime you see a poor dude you give him ten bucks to get a good meal.

If you were in a buring house and you had to save either the monkey or the human (ONLY ONE) so, you saved the human. But does that mean the monkey is less worthy to live than an human? Some would think so, but what about the monkey? What does it think about it's rights?

In the end, wheter we like it or not, we are probably going to be the death of the planet.

Now let's sit back and relax till the Ozone layer disappears or be flooded to death or even bomb ourselves to death.

saxoR_vs_aroS
10-16-2007, 05:08 AM
I couldn't have stated things more beutifully, KOK.

8730
10-16-2007, 05:26 PM
Now that you think of it, Humans are basically nothing without hi-tec gadgets or weapons. Heck, thousands of years ago we are like the lowest of the low with really nothing to defend us at all. It wasn't until we discovered weapons such as spears and arrows etc when we climbed to the top of the food chain.

Yes, we do kill animals for sport, for fun, for no reason. But isn't that what we are? I mean, a lioness doesn't care what the zebra thinks when it's trying to kill it. They just want to for food. Most people don't care if you step on an ant. Even the ant hill that the ant is from might not care since it got zillions of ants.

Sure there are those people who protect animals because they are going extinct. But there will always be those people who will want to kill them because that animal is rare. Even if you are the nicest person in the world and you haven't done a single bad thing ever, you will always get that moment where you will say, "Why do I care? As long as I'm fine, I don't need to worry." It's not like everytime you see a poor dude you give him ten bucks to get a good meal.

If you were in a buring house and you had to save either the monkey or the human (ONLY ONE) so, you saved the human. But does that mean the monkey is less worthy to live than an human? Some would think so, but what about the monkey? What does it think about it's rights?

In the end, wheter we like it or not, we are probably going to be the death of the planet.

Now let's sit back and relax till the Ozone layer disappears or be flooded to death or even bomb ourselves to death.
The whole point is humans developed the sentience to do all of those things. No other animal has become capable of that yet (although many would say that because humans developed it we have suppressed the advancement of other species). Really if you put a human up against a lion in a straight fight in a bare room with nothing but bare fists/paws the lion would win. The lion would obviously win. But in other situations the human would be able to use what is around them. THAT IMO is where the dangerousness comes in.

But, what is supposed to keep that in check is the morals in humanity. Unfortunately they are lacking in many people. With sentience comes the burden of higher emotions and logical and cognitive thought. We CARE about other people and animals. We feel bad for others, we aren't completely selfish (well mostly, I can think of a few people -___-), we currently have the power to help the world and we are. In that way, we are both the most dangerous and the most benign. We have checks that stop us from going crazy. We don't just work off of base instinct, we are 'better' than that (for lack of a better word).

KissesOfKunai
10-17-2007, 03:11 AM
Well, we aren't extremely selfish that we don't help anyone else and yes, animals aren't exactly as intelligent as we are and they don't have the reasoning to question science or physics or whatever. But that's evolution.

Evolution made us have that extra leap in thinking where we question and try to find out the answer. Humans really don't have much in defense, even millions of year ago we had nothing. We have nails, we have easily ripped skin and we don't really have extremely keen senses. But we got the next best thing. We learned, questioned, adapted. We wanted to work out the mysteries of life. Then we learned to bend our enviroment to our command.

Thus, we became more dangerous as now we have to power to change entire ecosystems.

8730
10-17-2007, 05:31 PM
But without our technology and advances do we have anything left? I think the question needs to be more specific. Does it mean human as in the organism, the species, or the 'civilisation'.

Repliku
10-18-2007, 03:48 AM
If we went by physical characteristics alone, no, the human species is not the deadliest and in fact, we'd suffer a lot and be not on top of the food chain etc. Many carnivores are stronger than humans, let alone the fact that some of the herbivores could kick our sorry bums. It's the reason we are omnivores and not just predators more than likely. =:)

However, because we are sentient beings, as others have said, it puts us in a higher category. What we lack in finesse and power, we make up for with the development of tools, working together, cognitively thinking of ways to provide shelter and comforts etc. We can destroy whole environments or meld with them. The sentient part is what truly makes humans a unique animal with an adaptability potential to go with nature, rise above it in some cases, and exploit it in others. I would consider with that being said, that we are indeed the potentially most dangerous of the animals. After all, we can even study them to find ways to avoid being victims to them and have weapons enough to put animals down. We've also been involved in some species' extinctions. The wholly mammoth is pretty well understood to have gone extinct by humans driving them over cliffs and then they'd go down and get the meat etc they wanted. We think of ways to take down things 'greater' than we are in physical nature. If other animals had our intellect, we would not be where we are set in the scheme of things, nor would we have all we do about us now.

PAW
10-18-2007, 05:44 PM
Why does this seem like everything I have been saying for all the months in the intelligent diiscussion area on KH-vids in one thread? And this time people are seeing things very differently? XD

Anyway, yes, completly and utterly Humans are the most dangerous creatures to ever be known in existence. And simply we are dangerous because of our intelligence, it is superior to other animals, but also the brain has made us one of the most destructive creatures ever, we have built machines that kill nature, weapons to kill animals, toxins to kill other humans, I eamn we are the only creatures that have over 10,000 ways to kill someone or something, dangerous is defiantly what I would call humans.

Intelligence of human level is the worse thing an animal can ever have, for the fact it breeds thoughts of how to get what you want, and not even things needed to survive, people now-a-days would kill someone for a phone or music player. That is destructive. Today we have sports and stunts like bike rides throug ring of fire or bungie jumping where you risk your life for nothing but the thrill of it, that is destructive. Where testing out make-up products on animals just to let vain people look more 'beautiful'. That is destructive. Where profit of money and wealth is more important than saving someones life. That is destructive.

In all humans are dangerous to themselves and anything around them, its fact. If you read it all, thank you!

11jones2
01-23-2008, 08:13 AM
yeah we are be cause how smart we are and almost i know we will be the cause the world blows up

Hummingbird
01-23-2008, 03:21 PM
I would have to agree. Physically, humans are weak, but our greed and lust to control everything makes us very dangerous indeed. What makes us dangerous isn't our physical capabilities, nor is it knowledge - it is how we use that knowledge. Rather than trying to preserve the balance in nature, we constantly try getting ourselves one more step above everything else, and in the process, we wreck ecosystems and release insanely big amounts of toxic fumes in the atmosphere which speeds up a natural process that is dangerous enough to many species without us quickening the phenomenon.

Naturally, in the end, all we're doing is bringing our own destruction closer as life on Earth has survived several other major climate changes, but we are a big danger to hundreds of species on Earth nonetheless.

EvilMan_89
01-23-2008, 04:01 PM
well....definitely. defintely most POTENTIALLY dangerous animals anyways, we're the only animals who can mass pollute the earth and can potentially destroy it too.

Repliku
01-24-2008, 10:35 PM
Why does this seem like everything I have been saying for all the months in the intelligent diiscussion area on KH-vids in one thread? And this time people are seeing things very differently? XD

Anyway, yes, completly and utterly Humans are the most dangerous creatures to ever be known in existence. And simply we are dangerous because of our intelligence, it is superior to other animals, but also the brain has made us one of the most destructive creatures ever, we have built machines that kill nature, weapons to kill animals, toxins to kill other humans, I eamn we are the only creatures that have over 10,000 ways to kill someone or something, dangerous is defiantly what I would call humans.

Intelligence of human level is the worse thing an animal can ever have, for the fact it breeds thoughts of how to get what you want, and not even things needed to survive, people now-a-days would kill someone for a phone or music player. That is destructive. Today we have sports and stunts like bike rides throug ring of fire or bungie jumping where you risk your life for nothing but the thrill of it, that is destructive. Where testing out make-up products on animals just to let vain people look more 'beautiful'. That is destructive. Where profit of money and wealth is more important than saving someones life. That is destructive.

In all humans are dangerous to themselves and anything around them, its fact. If you read it all, thank you!

Well, the reason people agree here, PAW is because no one is saying humans suck and we hate humans, which often seems to be your message. Humans can be bad and definitely can be classed as the most dangerous of animal species, but at the same time they are one of the most potent species to aiding other species and doing good deeds. It really depends what sort of person or group you are dealing with. The pessimism you have about humans, despite you being one, really is a let down and surely you shouldn't feel all people are so bad. Give us a break sometime. =:/ It's always easy to look at the bad stuff some people do but it would really help your case if you ever listed the good things some others do. We are not all mirror images or else you would not be here now because the way you see people is only as destructive. We'd all be dead.

Soushirei
01-24-2008, 11:07 PM
Just an add-on--although some might be repetition--to what Repliku was saying, yes, we have the resources and the intelligence and inegenuity to do the most horrible things to our planets and everything on it, but it can go both ways. That same ingenuity, intelligence and resources can be used for good just as much as they can be used for bad.

That's why despite your many threads that take on a connotative expression of the human species, it's not unsurprising that people want to post rebuttals, because there's always the potential and the possibility to be better, and be better. What can destroy us as humans can also be the source that saves us--it's our reasoning of the matter that decides which of the two prevails as the outcome.

Like Repliku said, people here can accept that we can be the most dangerous animals on the planet, but we accept that as a possibility, not an inevitability, which unfortunately in many of your threads seems to be the underlying message. And because that's the implication constantly coming up, many of us feel it's our right and responsibility to remind you that the aforementioned is not always so, and that it is rather a choice that is in our hands.

Solid Snake
01-24-2008, 11:17 PM
My mom is scared of snakes and i told her
"the only animal you should be scared of is Humans ."
so yes i agree

burnitup
01-27-2008, 03:27 PM
Humans are dangerous, we could destroy the world if we wanted to, we have the weapons to do it too.

Blademaster Mai'kel
02-10-2008, 07:54 PM
While there are many animals that are physically stronger than humans, we are so much more intelligent that it doesn't matter. Out of intelligence alone, we have achieved dominance over the Earth. A four-way battle royale between us and a couple huge animals would never happen, becuse four huge animals willing to kill a human, unprovoked, would almost never be in the same place.

Marlu[XI]a
02-13-2008, 01:20 AM
Humans are their most deadly adversary, we're the smartest and yet the most idiotic...we're destroying our own planet, and even the worms and birds realize it before we do. And when it starts falling apart on us, it will be too late to become hippies. Y'know?

Zeftnon - The Superior
02-18-2008, 01:33 AM
Humans can actually think, and not everyone has the same opinion on things. That's what can make us dangerous.

kaseykockroach
02-18-2008, 01:50 AM
Not only are we the most dangerous, we're also the most interesting.
.We are the only animals who kill other species for fun.
.We are the only animals who kill ourselves.
. We kill each other because of our differnet opinions. Other animals kill each other for sex, or food.
That's what comes to mind right now.

Ghillie in the Mist
02-18-2008, 01:55 AM
Not only are we the most dangerous, we're also the most interesting.
.We are the only animals who kill other species for fun.
.We are the only animals who kill ourselves.
. We kill each other because of our differnet opinions. Other animals kill each other for sex, or food.
That's what comes to mind right now.

1. Domestic cats kill for fun. They often play with a kill until its dead, Then walk away without eating it.
2. Lemmings, jump off cliffs.
3. Chimpazee's and even wage war, when there is plenty of food and teritor and sex to go around. No one knows why certain tribes wage war. Its probably of polical beliefs for all we know.

Yeah, humans are the most poweful creatures in the world. That alone makes us the most dangerous.

I mean, we are the only animals capable of whiping out the entire planet. (Nukes)

kaseykockroach
02-18-2008, 02:40 AM
1. Domestic cats kill for fun. They often play with a kill until its dead, Then walk away without eating it.
2. Lemmings, jump off cliffs.
3. Chimpazee's and even wage war, when there is plenty of food and teritor and sex to go around. No one knows why certain tribes wage war. Its probably of polical beliefs for all we know.

Yeah, humans are the most poweful creatures in the world. That alone makes us the most dangerous.

I mean, we are the only animals capable of whiping out the entire planet. (Nukes)
Everything is actually true except #2. ;)

Ghillie in the Mist
02-18-2008, 02:45 AM
Everything is actually true except #2. ;)

Yeah, I know... but its a very common misconception. I didnt think anyone would pick it up. Sorry, I fibbed.

kaseykockroach
02-18-2008, 02:48 AM
Yeah, I know... but its a very common misconception. I didnt think anyone would pick it up. Sorry, I fibbed.
:D:D:D
Some more...
.How many animals are "afraid" of sex?
.Do any animals worship something?
.I've never seen an animal "laugh", or find something funny. If you know what I mean.

Ghillie in the Mist
02-18-2008, 02:56 AM
:D:D:D
Some more...
.How many animals are "afraid" of sex?
.Do any animals worship something?
.I've never seen an animal "laugh", or find something funny. If you know what I mean.

1.How many people are affraid of sex?
2. I dont think thier brain is developed enough to that thinking about a spiritual world. We dont know. Maybe they do though... I dont read animal brains.
3. I've seen chimps play jokes on each other.

One I seen a baby chimp, poke an adult male with a stick. The adult was trying to sleep. The adult slapped the stick away. He then did it again, the male slapped it away. Then it looked like the baby was laughing. The baby did it again, and the adult went all berzerko and spazzed out screaming. The baby ran too its mom.

The whole time the baby looked like it was laughing.

I seen another one, where a young gorrila slapped a silverback in the back. The adult ignored him. But then the young one slapped him in the face. The gorrila jumped up and beat his chest throwing a fit. Once he realized it was a baby... he appeared to just let him slide. He calmed himself down, and layed back down.

Key
02-18-2008, 06:44 AM
The fact that we have a free will shows that we are dangerous. I hope all of you realize that our species is derailed.

kaseykockroach
02-18-2008, 10:17 PM
1.How many people are affraid of sex?
2. I dont think thier brain is developed enough to that thinking about a spiritual world. We dont know. Maybe they do though... I dont read animal brains.
3. I've seen chimps play jokes on each other.

One I seen a baby chimp, poke an adult male with a stick. The adult was trying to sleep. The adult slapped the stick away. He then did it again, the male slapped it away. Then it looked like the baby was laughing. The baby did it again, and the adult went all berzerko and spazzed out screaming. The baby ran too its mom.

The whole time the baby looked like it was laughing.

I seen another one, where a young gorrila slapped a silverback in the back. The adult ignored him. But then the young one slapped him in the face. The gorrila jumped up and beat his chest throwing a fit. Once he realized it was a baby... he appeared to just let him slide. He calmed himself down, and layed back down.
Stop proving me wrong! XDD
As for #1, alot of PC-loving people find sex to be immoral.

Ghillie in the Mist
02-19-2008, 04:37 AM
Stop proving me wrong! XDD
As for #1, alot of PC-loving people find sex to be immoral.

Immoral? Does that equal fear?

Even if someone thinks sex is immoral... that doesnt mean they dont do it. Even the most moral person will have sex with someone they are married to.

Thus, they arnt affraid of it.

Ok, maybe Monks, Nuns, and preist and stuff... but thats not because of fear... its becuase they dedicate themselves to God rather than give into thier own desires.

Repliku
02-19-2008, 07:38 AM
Immoral? Does that equal fear?

Even if someone thinks sex is immoral... that doesnt mean they dont do it. Even the most moral person will have sex with someone they are married to.

Thus, they arnt affraid of it.

Ok, maybe Monks, Nuns, and preist and stuff... but thats not because of fear... its becuase they dedicate themselves to God rather than give into thier own desires.

Morality doesn't really equate to fear as ICSP said. You are yourself going against your own nature by substituting another obsession for sex, which can be God or whatever. It really has nothing to do with fear at all. It's more like you are told it's disgusting and so..you don't do it because God doesn't want you to. Those who get married though generally have the rights to it but there have even been guides for how men and women could have sex and be married so they would not be immoral in the bedroom. These are choices people make and I can't see it as fear at all, unless you are saying they fear God so they can't have sex.

However, there are people that fear or dislike sex. More than people think, but probably less than what matters. I've heard people say, both male and female, that sex is not that great and women in particular that say it's more than uncomfortable. Also, victims of rape or molestation may have fears over sex.

I do think there are animals that probably do not reproduce or like sex that much, much as some humans won't when not involving forces of religion. They can have any number of problems sexually as we can. Also, many animals can be gay and bi too. Considering that quite a few animals get 'raped' in the wild, something tells me that females aren't always that crazy about it either. But it's the rules of how it works.

However, animals aren't really worshiping anything so you win that.

But the other point, animals do find things amusing and it is a form of development for animals to 'play'. Some animals do tease others of their ilk and can even be annoyances to the adults. So 2 out of 3 aren't bad.

Mielé
02-19-2008, 07:44 AM
Humans are the most dangerous creatures on Earth, but come to think of it, we can also be the dumbest. People go on rages and kill other people in a crazy rage before killing themselves, causing grief to many families of those who died. Us humans also go off and kill animals for no reason at all, just for hunting purposes, even though the animal might be goin extinct.

great, ive gone and rambled on -.-

Pyrɸ
02-24-2008, 07:45 AM
humans are definately one of the most savage animals alive. VERY dangerous. we have superior powers over all, and we use it too much and too exclusively. humans refuse to see the harm they cause by over-using this power (im not talking abt global warming here or extinction). its just sad... we humans have powers over all, so we use it mostly to show it off by doing crazy and radical things w/o a 2nd though. humans have the power to take lives... and so they do... either the so called laws forbid that or not. there's no controlling them! not even this.. god can do that.

Soushirei
02-24-2008, 07:55 AM
Humans are the most dangerous creatures on Earth, but come to think of it, we can also be the dumbest. People go on rages and kill other people in a crazy rage before killing themselves, causing grief to many families of those who died. Us humans also go off and kill animals for no reason at all, just for hunting purposes, even though the animal might be goin extinct.

great, ive gone and rambled on -.-
Kind of ironic that it might be considered 'stupid' or 'dumb', but a lot of what you said happens because of the complexity of the human mind. Because we can be incredibly perceptive about the things around us, our thoughts can sometimes lead us to do ridiculous things. We might sometimes be incredibly misled by our own thoughts, and thus do 'stupid' things like you say, but that's simply the irony of it; sometimes we're just too smart for our own good.

And that's what makes us dangerous, not necessarily stupid.

HellKitten
02-24-2008, 11:44 PM
Well, its actually a proven fact. Humans have
Heightened the Earths average temperature
Made important species extinct
Destroyed Forests
Make a big deal over death by another animal(seriously, other animals move on)
Are too full of Pride that shouldn't be their think its okay to hunt for fun
Don't respect others(hunting for fun, fishing, beating, ect;.....)
Make trophies of dead creatures
Can't go without war as it seems now and days
And think the world evolves around them "A god came and created us as his most important"
Those are honestly the ones I can name without thinking.

White_Rook
02-25-2008, 12:10 AM
Well, its actually a proven fact. Humans have
Heightened the Earths average temperature
Made important species extinct
Destroyed Forests
Make a big deal over death by another animal(seriously, other animals move on)
Are too full of Pride that shouldn't be their think its okay to hunt for fun
Don't respect others(hunting for fun, fishing, beating, ect;.....)
Make trophies of dead creatures
Can't go without war as it seems now and days
And think the world evolves around them "A god came and created us as his most important"
Those are honestly the ones I can name without thinking.

These are not facts.

1) There's evidence that we're effecting the climate. As to what degree we are not sure. Our planet has gone through natural climate shifts in the past. chances are it's going through one right now, and the only issue is that we're giving it steam.

2) This was not intentional and only resulted from a lack of foresight.

3)We've done a lot of logging, but clear cutting is almost obsolete now and seedlings are planted in place after most logging operations.

4) We're an emotional, social, and interactive species. We develop attachment as a result complex emotions that have proven to be crucial to survival.

5) A subjective opinion and false generalization. What about the countless indigenous tribes that hunt as a way of life?

6) Again, another false generalization from evidence of a a small group of people.

7) Another false generalization. We'd all like things to be sunshine and rainbows, but it's impossible to think that everyone will agree on everything.

8) Another false assumption. We're not all arrogant. if we were we wouldn't be having this debate because there would be no concern for the world around us.

Repliku
02-25-2008, 03:09 AM
Well, its actually a proven fact. Humans have
Heightened the Earths average temperature
Made important species extinct
Destroyed Forests
Make a big deal over death by another animal(seriously, other animals move on)
Are too full of Pride that shouldn't be their think its okay to hunt for fun
Don't respect others(hunting for fun, fishing, beating, ect;.....)
Make trophies of dead creatures
Can't go without war as it seems now and days
And think the world evolves around them "A god came and created us as his most important"
Those are honestly the ones I can name without thinking.

1. Heightened the world's temperature. - Yes, to a degree we have assisted it. However, we are in an interglacial period and the world is going to continue heating up whether or not humans are here. It is partially a normal process though carbon dioxide does increase the temperature a bit more. There is nothing scientifically that shows we are not in an interglacial period and the world would not warm up on its own. We do aid in it warming faster. We are not the total cause.

2. Made important species instinct - To some degree yes. However, many species have gone extinct naturally or by even animals eating the species to extinction, or by natural selection and environments that creatures suddenly were not able to adapt to and changed. This happens all the time and humans are part of the world as are any other creatures etc. We again are not the only thing destroying life and by statistics, a small part. Also, what about human efforts to help dying species? We've had successes with such efforts but no one wants to give credit. Look at the positives too.

3. Destroyed forests - Yes there are people that have destroyed forests and it sucks. There are also people who spend a lot of money to buy forested land to prevent it from being used for logging and deforestation. There are also countless people who plant trees when they can and help out preserves.

4. Make a big deal if animals hunt humans etc - Not all humans do this. However, there is some proof when certain animals eat say babies or smaller humans, that they will hunt them in the future because it is available and easier than stalking some other prey. We don't really have to deal with this so much in the U.S. but in places where there are tigers or crocodiles and some other types of creatures like this, it can be a problem. I do not agree with the way the 12 year old kid was eaten by an alligator and they went and slew all these alligators and still never found the remains of the kid, (who was told to get the hell out of the water and ignored), but that's not how all people feel. It's a select group who did this and many people complained about it.

4. Too full of pride and hunt for fun - Some people hunt for food and such and there are tribal communities that exist in the world. Also, others who hunt for fun, most use the animal meat and such and are living as others before them had. The only ones that are doing something wrong are poachers. Hunters very much frown at poaching too as it ruins good game and also kills without using the body of the animal etc. No one likes poachers. Hunters aren't doing anything wrong. In fact, they are actually working for their food.

5. Don't respect others. (hunting, fishing, beating etc) ..what does this mean? People aren't allowed to hunt or fish? We eat fish and meat. Why can't someone hunt for it? What exactly is your problem with that? And what does 'beating' have to do with hunting and fishing? Are you referring to beating animals? If so, that is really in the minority of human activities and most of the time is the sign of a psychopath or mentally unstable person.

6. Make trophies of dead animals - Ok, I find this kind of a bit eh myself but I don't see the harm in it really. If the animal is dead, it's dead. It doesn't care what you do with the remains. The only time I have a problem with it is say someone slew a tiger or bear etc for the trophy and well, who's eating tigers or bears or some big deadly predator? We don't eat the predators. We eat the herd animals. My grandpa kept the racks of some deer and I never saw anything bad about it considering he also ate the deer. Big whoop.

7. Can't go without war it seems - Many people do not want war. You are lumping people all together and it's not that simple. We are actually in some ways more peaceful than we've been in the past. Just now we have bigger weapons.

8. And think the world evolves around them "A god came and created us as his most important" - Again, a limited scope of people feel this way. God excuses are starting to run thin. There are many people who love the earth and nature and know they are part of it, not above it.

In the end, some people are going to make generalizations about humanity as a whole and it just is not right. You can lump us all together and say comments like this and expect them to be valid but you are speaking in terms of a hater that has nothing to back the statements that -all- people feel this way. They are no more valid than saying a black man is a rapist, or a white man is a snobby wealthy fool, or a woman wearing a halter top is a whore. It comes down to simply being prejudiced and having misinformed judgments pertaining to a whole group and this bias does no one any good. There -are- good people out there that care for nature, the world etc. Complaining about how bad all humans are while typing on a computer and not living somewhere in a mud hole is kind of hypocritical.

While I believe we are indeed the most -dangerous- animal there is on the planet, I do also see we are the greatest achievers of change on the planet. We can fix or destroy areas easily enough. We have made great achievements but these are always watered down somehow. I don't like what we've done in some regards but in others I can see real efforts being made. There will always be some idiots out there that are all about selfishness, greed and such but there are others that will stand against them, and others that merely try to survive and make their paychecks and do what they can. Hating is also destructive, whether because of a justified reason or not. Instead, doing something positive about it works better. Go plant some trees, grow some plants to reduce carbon dioxide, take care of your pets, adopt a pet from the shelter, turn off your lights when not in use, recycle, etc. Do your part. People need to gripe less and do more.

Advent
03-15-2008, 09:50 PM
Indisputably, yes. We've done more damage to this planet in 300 years than every other organism has done in 4 Billion.

Pyrɸ
03-16-2008, 12:47 AM
Indisputably, yes. We've done more damage to this planet in 300 years than every other organism has done in 4 Billion.

O_o well said... <_<

Crumpet
03-29-2008, 11:11 AM
humans are indeed the most dangerous race on the earth, we kill for fun, while other animals kill to live. but then again its us that are keeping things balanced aren't we... if it asn't probably more species would be extinct thanks to the food chain if you think about it

khsuperfan
04-08-2008, 08:06 PM
man is the most dangerous animal (not in an evolutionist way!).
P.S.- Repliku types a lot! ^__^

thedancingprat
04-08-2008, 08:20 PM
I completely agree, we are aanimals that class ourselves as non-animals which causes problems, we have changed the way nature intended for us and are therefore bringing down our own world with the unbalancing of the equilibriem.

Princess Snow White
04-08-2008, 09:05 PM
Humans are more intelligent than any other animal which probably makes us more advances, not dangerous.

Xephos
04-08-2008, 11:54 PM
I have to agree with you RR13. Reason? We've been hurting many animals here, we've been poisioning teh Earth, we've killed and murdered, and made diseases untreatable.

Saintlikesgirls
04-09-2008, 12:00 AM
we are the most savage and most superior animals in this world.... we kill for pleasure... that is only something a real savage would do so yes... we ARE the most dangerous.

also if you look at something like how we poach nearly extinct animals... that just makes evil basicaly... killing a whole freaking species just for money... we are greedy... because we are greedy that means we are savage and being savage is dangerous...

okayim done repeating myslef a ffew thousand time sXD

Darkwatch
04-09-2008, 02:50 AM
To those who say we are more superior: I don't believe that. At all. We as organisms are in no way superior to any other organism. Not even a virus. I agree that we are dangerous and the most sophisticated, but we are not superior. We just happen to have conscious thinking ability.

And I honestly don't find ourselves that dangerous (apart from our war and separation of people). Because we are organisms of nature, I think that everything we do is a product of our and other animals' nature. We release tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, but that is only because we need it to live; for factories to package food; to generate heat and electricity; and other things. Therefore, I don't think it's dangerous. Maybe to other animals, but on a large scale animals constantly kill each other. We kill members of our own species too, and of course, probably the only species that DOES kill its own because of conflict. And that is the only aspect I find dangerous: our own personal separation and/or division and contempt for one-another.

On a lighter picture, we have made many incredible advancements via technology, adaptation, creativity, etc. Though I only say that from our own personal standpoint, since of course I don't know what other life could be out in our universe. <:3

Mythos
04-17-2008, 07:54 PM
To those who say we are more superior: I don't believe that. At all. We as organisms are in no way superior to any other organism. Not even a virus. I agree that we are dangerous and the most sophisticated, but we are not superior. We just happen to have conscious thinking ability.

And I honestly don't find ourselves that dangerous (apart from our war and separation of people). Because we are organisms of nature, I think that everything we do is a product of our and other animals' nature. We release tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, but that is only because we need it to live; for factories to package food; to generate heat and electricity; and other things. Therefore, I don't think it's dangerous. Maybe to other animals, but on a large scale animals constantly kill each other. We kill members of our own species too, and of course, probably the only species that DOES kill its own because of conflict. And that is the only aspect I find dangerous: our own personal separation and/or division and contempt for one-another.

On a lighter picture, we have made many incredible advancements via technology, adaptation, creativity, etc. Though I only say that from our own personal standpoint, since of course I don't know what other life could be out in our universe. <:3

we are supeior. People who believe in Evolution think that because we act kinda like animals that we are an animal, lowering our superiority to make themselves feel smarter, but truly it is the animals that are acting more like us, due to our influence upon everything. Not to say they are on par with us at all, i'm just saying it could make sense if you reverse the wording.