The Final Boss

[Number13Roxas]

Do you think the final boss is Riku or someone else?

[Ansem59]

common it has to be riku if it wasn't square-enix would be a bunch of idiots

[darkslayer]

Well it's hard too tell, It can be any one in the kh series or maybe some hole lot different. But I don't think it will be Riku.

[Kata Tsubasa no Tenshi]

There is a chance it's Riku, because after Roxas lost to him, he ended up in Twilight Town... but it could be something else, you never know what Squeenix has up their sleeve ^^

[Thebazilly]

Riku, definitely.

[Nate_River]

it would probably be a new guy/girl... if it was Xemnas or Riku it would be a bit repetative and boring...

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

It'd have to be Riku... Single player is Roxas' story... and it would be stupid for him to fight something right after his battle with Riku... Repetitive or not, that's the way I'm positive it would be lol

[tummer]

i think it could be orgonization member XIV. it just seemed becuase it was secret member, and seems powerful enough.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

i think it could be orgonization member XIV. it just seemed becuase it was secret member, and seems powerful enough.

I highly doubt she's the final boss... though, I'm betting that you do fight her at some point lol

[tummer]

the riku battle does have a good chance of bieng it.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

the riku battle does have a good chance of bieng it.

Not a GOOD chance, about a 95% chance, seriously, who's Roxas going to fight when he's unconscious, digitized, amnesiac...

[tummer]

like i know. i'm not the head director of square enix.

[Enigmatic Boy]

Riku, cause Roxas ended up in Twilight Town after that.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Riku, cause Roxas ended up in Twilight Town after that.

Exactly, Days is a game we already know the end of... it wouldn't make sense if they rewrote a scene that was made for FMII and have Roxas fight someone else AFTER Riku, but before coming to in the virtual Twilight Town...

[The Great Gatz]

third choice makes the most sense to me atm.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

third choice makes the most sense to me atm.

Why is that?

[P]

All who say Riku, I disagree.

Or not. I think that there WILL be a boss that is "final" before riku.

There must be a reason the Orgy wanted Roxas dead.

I think Roxas did something awful to them in between the "No one will miss me" scene and the Riku fight.

Perhaps #14 had a Roxas initiated death?

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

All who say Riku, I disagree.

Or not. I think that there WILL be a boss that is "final" before riku.

There must be a reason the Orgy wanted Roxas dead.

I think Roxas did something awful to them in between the "No one will miss me" scene and the Riku fight.

Perhaps #14 had a Roxas initiated death?

The term 'Final Boss' refers to the LAST boss ONLY, therefore Riku is the Final Boss... And about Number XIV being killed by Roxas, quite likely, but not as the Final Boss...

[Cocohints]

I'm not so intirely sure about Riku being a final boss - by the time he was looking for Roxas, half the Organisation were killed off in Castle Oblivion. (he was the one who killed off two of the basement members, after all) Unless you see them dying in this game too, I doubt he'd be the last boss.

I wanna see a tough person as the final boss though, definatly. Only the toughest against the Organisation! :3

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

I'm not so intirely sure about Riku being a final boss - by the time he was looking for Roxas, half the Organisation were killed off in Castle Oblivion. (he was the one who killed off two of the basement members, after all) Unless you see them dying in this game too, I doubt he'd be the last boss.

I wanna see a tough person as the final boss though, definatly. Only the toughest against the Organisation! :3

Single player mode is Roxas... seemingly EXCLUSIVELY... Roxas vs Riku was confirmed to be playable ages ago... the story ends at about the time Roxas is digitized... I really can't see ANY other Final Boss being for Days...

[Cocohints]

Then I've obviously missed that bit of information.. :x

Then Riku would be a final FINAL boss if it's single mode.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Well, the multiplayer mode has no real connection to the story lolol

[Number13Roxas]

I think its gonna be Riku because the game is probably gonna fill up certain holes taht were not cleared yet.

[Kaitou Sai]

It's a pretty good chance it will be Riku, I really don't see anyone else unless they have the final battle then show cutscenens of the Riku fight...although that would just be lame, I want to fight Riku.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

It's a pretty good chance it will be Riku, I really don't see anyone else unless they have the final battle then show cutscenens of the Riku fight...although that would just be lame, I want to fight Riku.

That would be VERY lame... especially as they said that the fight would be playable lol

[mixt]

I'm not thinking it's Riku for the reason most people are. A forced loss as the final battle!? How cheap would that be?

Now, I do think you'll fight Riku. KH2 basically shoves it in your face that there is a missing battle scene between the two. But that would also mean there is probably a time gap between those two fights and someone else will probably end up in there.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

I'm not thinking it's Riku for the reason most people are. A forced loss as the final battle!? How cheap would that be?

Now, I do think you'll fight Riku. KH2 basically shoves it in your face that there is a missing battle scene between the two. But that would also mean there is probably a time gap between those two fights and someone else will probably end up in there.

As I said earlier, Final Boss refers to the last boss EXCLUSIVELY... and also as I said earlier, Days is a game we already know the end of... cheap or not, repetitive or not, there is an OVERWHELMING chance that Riku is the Final Boss...

To explain why Final Boss refers solely to the last boss, I'll use FFIX as an example... Necron is the Final Boss, yet you don't even hear about him till after beating Kuja again, in Trance Form... Kuja is a MAJOR Boss, not the Final Boss for that very reason lol

[mixt]

Perhaps the Riku battle is a cut scene at the end of the game. Or maybe they even end the game before that with Roxas walking out on the Org. I don't know. But there are plenty of ways to have it end the same without you actually having to lose to Riku.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Perhaps the Riku battle is a cut scene at the end of the game. Or maybe they even end the game before that with Roxas walking out on the Org. I don't know. But there are plenty of ways to have it end the same without you actually having to lose to Riku.

How many times do I have to say this? Roxas vs Riku was CONFIRMED ages ago...

[mixt]

Where? I'm usually good at keeping up with KH news and I've heard nothing regarding the final boss of 358/2 days from SE.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Where? I'm usually good at keeping up with KH news and I've heard nothing regarding the final boss of 358/2 days from SE.

I've been trying to track down the thread it was in, but I guess I don't have the right sort of title in my head lol... But I distinctly remember reading that Roxas vs Riku would be playable in Days ages ago on this site... somewhere lol

[Dreadnought]

Its gonna totally be Sephiroth!!! I can't figure out why though.......

[Number13Roxas]

I think that it might be a Riku fight before he transformed into the Xehanort's Heartless Form. Riku mentioned in KH2 that he tried to fight Roxas but couldn't beat him, he had to make sure the second time that he would be the victor.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

I think that it might be a Riku fight before he transformed into the Xehanort's Heartless Form. Riku mentioned in KH2 that he tried to fight Roxas but couldn't beat him, he had to make sure the second time that he would be the victor.

As we saw in FMII, the two fights were one after the other... Besides, it's not like we haven't seen boss battles that, storyline wise, the player loses... Days is the story of how Roxas went from Organization XIII's golden boy... to DiZ's plaything...

[P]

I have not seen The Roxas Vs. Riku fight on FM, but is it possible that it was only concept?

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

I have not seen The Roxas Vs. Riku fight on FM, but is it possible that it was only concept?

I doubt it, considering that that scene was expanded for FMII... Putting it bluntly, it would be pretty silly for them to rewrite a new scene like that lol

[Twilight--XIII]

If it were the Riku fight, you'd end up losing in the end anyway. Even though he practically won... o_o I really don't get that part... "I defeated a Riku once", "Riku lost." And when you see the scene, it's Roxas unconscious at the end. Well, it could always be only until the part Riku falls down and unties his blindfold... but I am actually hoping it's the new member... because that would clear up why she didn't appear anymore... either that or she left the Organization at some point. Both work.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

If it were the Riku fight, you'd end up losing in the end anyway. Even though he practically won... o_o I really don't get that part... "I defeated a Riku once", "Riku lost." And when you see the scene, it's Roxas unconscious at the end. Well, it could always be only until the part Riku falls down and unties his blindfold... but I am actually hoping it's the new member... because that would clear up why she didn't appear anymore... either that or she left the Organization at some point. Both work.

Frankly, unless you fight XIV in Roxas' subconsious, that wouldn't happen... but if you did, that's not really fighting her is it? Personally, I think XIV is a 'secret' member... one that was never going to have a proof OR chair... or a real place in the Organization XIII, for that matter...

Though as a boss fight EARLIER in the game, that would make sense...

[Twilight--XIII]

Frankly, unless you fight XIV in Roxas' subconsious, that wouldn't happen... but if you did, that's not really fighting her is it? Personally, I think XIV is a 'secret' member... one that was never going to have a proof OR chair... or a real place in the Organization XIII, for that matter...

Though as a boss fight EARLIER in the game, that would make sense...

Well, yes, there is the thing with the chair, but anyway, I'm satisfied as long as you get to fight XIV in some point. I don't mind which point, I just hope it will be a challenge. Why? I have no idea... I suppose I just want the Organization members to be powerful.

[koolashley]

I think Riku. It would be fun to fight him and Riku failiing (even though he is a very easy opponent).

[P]

Hey, Riku is not the last thing Roxas battles.

Remember Sora? That could be the last battle.

[Whoa Its Jose]

Hey, Riku is not the last thing Roxas battles.

Remember Sora? That could be the last battle.

You totally have a point, but..

You lose that too. =[

[P]

Yeah...

Still, could happen.

[Whoa Its Jose]

Possibly not, in FM2 you fight Roxas.
So, it's already been done.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Hey, Riku is not the last thing Roxas battles.

Remember Sora? That could be the last battle.

It won't... that's beyond Days' timeline... Days ends when Roxas is digitized lol

[P]

Yes but this game is from Roxas's point, No?

It is possible, but not likely.

Although there is a part of me that wants the fight to be someone other than Riku, considering how difficult he is to beat.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Yes but this game is from Roxas's point, No?

It is possible, but not likely.

Although there is a part of me that wants the fight to be someone other than Riku, considering how difficult he is to beat.

Yes, it's from Roxas' point of view... No, it won't happen because it's out of the timeline AND it's been done before... Lolol, Final Bosses aren't supposed to be easy... Hence why I like finishing KHII more than KH1 lol

[mixt]

It won't... that's beyond Days' timeline... Days ends when Roxas is digitized lol

Logic is what is saying that, not Square. This one I'm nearly positive on.

[Dredica]

I highly doubt she's the final boss... though, I'm betting that you do fight her at some point lol

Maybe she's the one who is ordered to make you stay with the organaztion, but you destroy, and she dies. So, that would be why she dosn't end up in kingdom hearts 2, I think the last boss is Riku though too. The most stupidest thing in the whole world would be that the last boss is Seifer. < lol

:starwars: Roxas: Die Riku! Riku: Call me Ansem biotch!

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Logic is what is saying that, not Square. This one I'm nearly positive on.

Maybe so, but it would make no sense for it to go further than that... it's meant as a PREQUEL to KHII, not an overlapping story...

[P]

Yes, it's from Roxas' point of view... No, it won't happen because it's out of the timeline AND it's been done before... Lolol, Final Bosses aren't supposed to be easy... Hence why I like finishing KHII more than KH1 lol

:stupid:

That was meant for the person above you... I had not refreshed the page in a while.

So now you must be thinking I have scrambled Logic.

Does the game certainly end after he is digitalised?

Sorry, but again I must ask for the interview, to form my own theories.

[Love]

I got to say Riku , the ending is predetermined like Crisis Core .


There is no chance that it's Xemnas though .

[mixt]

As I said earlier, It could allways end early. No reason to repeat events is there? Now there is still the missing Riku battle but there is also a time period after that in wich they could include something else.

I'm not trying to say it can't be Riku. I'm just trying to say it doesn't have to be and Square doesn't like to be 'that' predictable.

[Love]

As I said earlier, It could allways end early. No reason to repeat events is there? Now there is still the missing Riku battle but there is also a time period after that in wich they could include something else.

I'm not trying to say it can't be Riku. I'm just trying to say it doesn't have to be and Square doesn't like to be 'that' predictable.

It could be Ansem the Wise ( DIZ ) , since he's the one who runs off with Roxas , and maybe Roxas might wake up .

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

:stupid:

That was meant for the person above you... I had not refreshed the page in a while.

So now you must be thinking I have scrambled Logic.

Does the game certainly end after he is digitalised?

Sorry, but again I must ask for the interview, to form my own theories.

I'm afraid I can't give you one... but I'm positive that it does... Unless the Final Boss is fought inside virtual Twilight Town or something like that... But that would be a BIG letdown lol

I got to say Riku , the ending is predetermined like Crisis Core .


There is no chance that it's Xemnas though .

Exactly, now THIS IS from Nomura... the ending IS predetermined...

http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=31480

[P]

That does still not necessarily mean that Riku is the Final boss.

Predetermined, as I see it, means he will end up in TT/Sora. I guess it also means Riku will be fought in TWTNW.

The way I see it, there has been no confirmation about. It could easily be a mental fight with Sora.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

That does still not necessarily mean that Riku is the Final boss.

Predetermined, as I see it, means he will end up in TT/Sora. I guess it also means Riku will be fought in TWTNW.

The way I see it, there has been no confirmation about. It could easily be a mental fight with Sora.

Why would they do that? Roxas does NOTHING between the end of Day 6... and when Sora reaches TWTNW...

[Hakurei Reimu]

Most likely Riku. After that point, that's basically when KH2 begins so it makes sense...

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Most likely Riku. After that point, that's basically when KH2 begins so it makes sense...

Exactly lol

[Number13Roxas]

I agree why would they try to change continuity why should they not end it right before KHII they did it for Crisis Core.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

I agree why would they try to change continuity why should they not end it right before KHII they did it for Crisis Core.

That's what I've been saying all along... and KH's continuity means more to it than a lot of other series' lol

[Luka]

I say riku ^^

[Akino]

As most people said, Riku should be the final boss of 358/2 Days. I mean, we all know how the game will end. Roxas ends up going to a virtual Twilight Town and live in a whole web of lies for a week.

But before the final battle with Mister Riku. I want the 14th member to be the next major boss fight before Riku. Either the whole fight will be about XIV forcing Roxas to come back to the organization, and ends up him finishing her off for good. Or vice-versa, but Roxas still desposing her.

[Gerdneek]

does anyone know who the 14th member is?

[mixt]

I just thought of something else. What is the first Riku fight happened before Roxas left? I don't think the Organization would let him just walk out the door, and we know what happens after that from KH2. If that's right then the final boss actually could be Xemnas. I still doubt it though, too repetitive. But it actually is a possibility.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

I just thought of something else. What is the first Riku fight happened before Roxas left? I don't think the Organization would let him just walk out the door, and we know what happens after that from KH2. If that's right then the final boss actually could be Xemnas. I still doubt it though, too repetitive. But it actually is a possibility.

Unlikely, because Roxas isn't strong enough to take down Xemnas on his own... and Xemnas is merciless... he WOULD kill Roxas...

[P]

Well whoever the last boss is, I am adamant that the story will not be entirely predictible.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Well whoever the last boss is, I am adamant that the story will not be entirely predictible.

I'm not saying that we'll be able to predict every little plot detail... I'm just saying that having the Final Boss as anyone other than Riku would most likely not happen...

[P]

V.V

Yeah I guess...

It would have been nice to have someone different though...

Someone that you don't have to lose to...

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

V.V

Yeah I guess...

It would have been nice to have someone different though...

Someone that you don't have to lose to...

Lolol, true... but we'll be playing as Roxas again... so who can complain?

[P]

Him, for being beaten up, knocked out, shoved into a virtual town with fake friends, having his memory erased and being forced to fuse with Sora?

...

Nah!

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Him, for being beaten up, knocked out, shoved into a virtual town with fake friends, having his memory erased and being forced to fuse with Sora?

...

Nah!

He wasn't FORCED to fuse with Sora... he just submitted... and I meant the game as a whole lol

[Shade Tail]

I'd say the 14th member...
Don't know what her element is, but I hope she'd be a badass boss :D

[Luka]

I'd say the 14th member...
Don't know what her element is, but I hope she'd be a badass boss :D

i'm not sure but i think it's kinda impossible xD
cause after the Roxas vs Riku fight the game should end >_>

[Lord Knight Xiron]

I'd say either the fourteenth member or someone else. I don't think it'll be the 14th member, actually. I suspect she quits Org. XIII before Roxas and is hiding out for all of KHII, and actually inspires Roxas to leave the Organization and find his own way.

I'd say Roxas vs. Riku would be the ending cutscene. And Xemnas just doesn't make sense.

So I'm gonna go with another person. Who that may be? I have no clue.

[Number13Roxas]

Who says you have to lose to Riku? You could very well play the part where you fight him at the bottom of the tower in the World That Never Was and have a cutscene show him being put down temporarily and then have the Final Mix scene be the end. Or heck maybe they could have Sora be the final Boss! (It would be the momment where he fought the dream Roxas in The World That Never Was.)

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Who says you have to lose to Riku? You could very well play the part where you fight him at the bottom of the tower in the World That Never Was and have a cutscene show him being put down temporarily and then have the Final Mix scene be the end. Or heck maybe they could have Sora be the final Boss! (It would be the momment where he fought the dream Roxas in The World That Never Was.)

I HIGHLY doubt that Sora will be the Final Boss... because then it would be a three-era game... and that would be VERY difficult to make work...

[Hakurei Reimu]

I HIGHLY doubt that Sora will be the Final Boss... because then it would be a three-era game... and that would be VERY difficult to make work...

To some extend I'd have to agree. However, they mite make some references towards Sora in the midst of doing so...

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

To some extend I'd have to agree. However, they mite make some references towards Sora in the midst of doing so...

Well, Nomura (or someone on the staff of Days, anyway), said they were going to show some memories of Sora throughout the game... but not specifically stating that they were Sora's in-game...

[Gwen]

Riku definatley. He is the last person Roxas fights before he loses his memory.

[Near-to-Tears]

Tricky...

I think if it was Riku it would be in the Another Side Another Story form with Ansem Form as the Final Form. But only when you play as Roxas, it wouldn't make sense other wise.
XIV would be good for a boss for the others, and it would explain why she disappered.
Xemnas wouldn't be a Final Boss twice, maybe as a training exercise earlier though?

Can't think of anyone else it could be...

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Tricky...

I think if it was Riku it would be in the Another Side Another Story form with Ansem Form as the Final Form. But only when you play as Roxas, it wouldn't make sense other wise.
XIV would be good for a boss for the others, and it would explain why she disappered.
Xemnas wouldn't be a Final Boss twice, maybe as a training exercise earlier though?

Can't think of anyone else it could be...

I'm pretty sure Single Player is Roxas only lol

[Solid Snake]

ya its Riku...-___-

[Number13Roxas]

I can see it now, just after the Fourteenth Member dies she reveals who Sora is, Roxas runs into Axel while leaving the World That Never Was but just as he is about to go to Twilight Town it begins to rain and Heartless appear with Riku at the top of the tower.

[Twilight's Rose]

I think that the 14th member might be the final boss. Reasons;

1. If it was Xemnas he wouln't be in KHII, because Roxas could kick hes behind in one second.

2. If it was Riku...well...no reason... but still good.

3. Another...who?

[Luka]

I think that the 14th member might be the final boss. Reasons;

1. If it was Xemnas he wouln't be in KHII, because Roxas could kick hes behind in one second.

2. If it was Riku...well...no reason... but still good.

3. Another...who?

Isn't that like just one >.< i still say it has to be riku cause after he gets beaten Roxas's story will end

[koolashley]

I think that the 14th member might be the final boss. Reasons;

1. If it was Xemnas he wouln't be in KHII, because Roxas could kick hes behind in one second.

2. If it was Riku...well...no reason... but still good.

3. Another...who?

1. It couldn't be Xemnas because he brought Roxas into the Organization, and at the moment wasn't with them (which is why Marluxia was in charge of the castle). And, he'd be kicked out.

2. There is a reason:D! Riku and Roxas fought because Roxas wanted to meet Sora, and they fought twice.

3. Who do you mean?!

[Zeftnon - The Superior]

Nomura has said that the Roxas V.S. Riku fight is playable. Another fact is that 358/2 Days starts with Roxas joining Organization XIII and ends before Roxas' virtual Twilight Town days.

The XIV member might actually make an appearance before the final battle with Riku. She might also be the second-last boss. I think that she was the one who told Roxas about his "other", and that's why Roxas left after that. I mean, Roxas wouldn't wait almost a year to turn on the Organization. Someone must've triggered his escape, and I think that that someone is the XIV member.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Nomura has said that the Roxas V.S. Riku fight is playable. Another fact is that 358/2 Days starts with Roxas joining Organization XIII and ends before Roxas' virtual Twilight Town days.

The XIV member might actually make an appearance before the final battle with Riku. She might also be the second-last boss. I think that she was the one who told Roxas about his "other", and that's why Roxas left after that. I mean, Roxas wouldn't wait almost a year to turn on the Organization. Someone must've triggered his escape, and I think that that someone is the XIV member.

Thank you! Someone knows I'm right about the Roxas vs Riku battle... and I can see XIV doing that...

[Crumpet]

most likely riku... but not in xehanort form, he tried to wake sora up

[Cocohints]

Nomura has said that the Roxas V.S. Riku fight is playable. Another fact is that 358/2 Days starts with Roxas joining Organization XIII and ends before Roxas' virtual Twilight Town days.

The XIV member might actually make an appearance before the final battle with Riku. She might also be the second-last boss. I think that she was the one who told Roxas about his "other", and that's why Roxas left after that. I mean, Roxas wouldn't wait almost a year to turn on the Organization. Someone must've triggered his escape, and I think that that someone is the XIV member.

I definatly want to see this in the final product, it sounds very close to the canon story. >:3 You suppose Roxas became angry at her or she was holding back the information, to make you fight her?

[Number13Roxas]

Holding back, I think she is a manipulator like Zexion. Something that Xemnas likes.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

Holding back, I think she is a manipulator like Zexion. Something that Xemnas likes.

I agree... that seems to be the most likely role for her...

[Luka]

Holding back, I think she is a manipulator like Zexion. Something that Xemnas likes.
yeah maybe she will be all cool but maybe she would be like nice and cute >.<

[Akino]

yeah maybe she will be all cool but maybe she would be like nice and cute >.<

Nice and cute? Since when were nobodies nice and cute? xD I can totally see XIV failing to act all innocent...because she seems to be more of the 'I'm so cool, I'm too bada$$ to be cute and innocent.' type of girl.

But can we now get back to topic here? x]

[Luka]

Nice and cute? Since when were nobodies nice and cute? xD I can totally see XIV failing to act all innocent...because she seems to be more of the 'I'm so cool, I'm too bada$$ to be cute and innocent.' type of girl.

But can we now get back to topic here? x]

well namine is >.<

[Delicious ♥ Ambrosia]

Nomura has said that the Roxas V.S. Riku fight is playable. Another fact is that 358/2 Days starts with Roxas joining Organization XIII and ends before Roxas' virtual Twilight Town days.

The XIV member might actually make an appearance before the final battle with Riku. She might also be the second-last boss. I think that she was the one who told Roxas about his "other", and that's why Roxas left after that. I mean, Roxas wouldn't wait almost a year to turn on the Organization. Someone must've triggered his escape, and I think that that someone is the XIV member.

That's what I was thinking...

[Gerdneek]

i hope the boss is some new eney that will appear in KH3.

[Dredica]

-_- how could it poosibly be Namine? First of all, she hates the org. plus they already annouced it isn't her, I think that it will go through stages for the last boss, like every other kh game, first it will Riku regular form, you win, then it will be Riku pissed form, you win, then it will be Riku Xehanort's heartless form, you lose. But I think that number 14 is going to be second to last boss.

[koolashley]

Well, Nomura (or someone on the staff of Days, anyway), said they were going to show some memories of Sora throughout the game... but not specifically stating that they were Sora's in-game...

Hmm...Cool! Can't wait for that!

Nomura has said that the Roxas V.S. Riku fight is playable. Another fact is that 358/2 Days starts with Roxas joining Organization XIII and ends before Roxas' virtual Twilight Town days.

The XIV member might actually make an appearance before the final battle with Riku. She might also be the second-last boss. I think that she was the one who told Roxas about his "other", and that's why Roxas left after that. I mean, Roxas wouldn't wait almost a year to turn on the Organization. Someone must've triggered his escape, and I think that that someone is the XIV member.

Where'd you hear all of that? That's all some of the most interesting news I've heard in a long time.

[Number13Roxas]

Hmm . . . Sora's memories in the game also.

[mixt]

Thank you! Someone knows I'm right about the Roxas vs Riku battle... and I can see XIV doing that...

How do you know it's Riku?

Roxas vs. Riku is playable, but there are two of those battles. All we know on the first one is that it exists so of course it will be in there. But the second one is already there so there is no reason to repeat it.

Also you keep bringing up that the game ends when Roxas goes to data Twilight Town. This is only half true. We know the game covers the mystery time span of Roxas. Twilight Town was the first we see Roxas but holes get filled later so the gap basically ends when Roxas leaves the Organization. Who’s to say where in that time span the game will end?

Just to be clear, I'm not saying it can't be Riku, its just that everyone saying its Riku seems to think that there is no other posability which is not the case.

[Repliku]

It would be cool if it was Riku so you could fight him the first time and see all he actually had to him and seeing Roxas maxed out then. In a way I hope it is him even though Riku has to lose. It would make it a good story line where you as Roxas actually get to do that and know what actually transpired the first time and why Riku did lose. To me, it's kind of like why having the fight in KH2:FM between Sora and Roxas was a cool concept, because it let you actually do the fighting and see how good a combatant Roxas was. Also, I think it'd be the fight where Roxas actually won. The second one, whether Roxas whine screamed he was winning or not, Riku seemed to be the winner easily, having knocked him unconscious even before he used the Heartless form. So, I'd hope they'd just show the battle and let you fight and win the first one, and then after show what Roxas does in closing before Riku goes after him again.

If it does happen to be someone else, I would have no idea who at this time unless it was the 14th member, but I'm not sure that would happen either. Perhaps a new enemy that got in the way of the Organization, if it's not Riku.

[Shadows Of Oblivion]

How do you know it's Riku?

Roxas vs. Riku is playable, but there are two of those battles. All we know on the first one is that it exists so of course it will be in there. But the second one is already there so there is no reason to repeat it.

Also you keep bringing up that the game ends when Roxas goes to data Twilight Town. This is only half true. We know the game covers the mystery time span of Roxas. Twilight Town was the first we see Roxas but holes get filled later so the gap basically ends when Roxas leaves the Organization. Who’s to say where in that time span the game will end?

Just to be clear, I'm not saying it can't be Riku, its just that everyone saying its Riku seems to think that there is no other posability which is not the case.

I TOLD you, I read it here on kh-vids... and the 'mystery timespan' DOESN'T end when Roxas leaves the Organization... We are NEVER told when he left... it could have been DAYS before the clash with Riku... and no, I don't call a scene a battle, so as far as I'm concerned, they HAVEN'T done ANY Roxas vs Riku battles...

[Ampex]

It could be some gigantic heartless, or we might see more of Xehenort's heartless. Or maybe a very sad Axel that's upset for Roxas leaving the Organization. Or it could be shadow sora, or a image of Sora. You know how Roxas re emergered after Axel's death? It could be like that with Sora, only Sora is alive and sleeping. OR Aqua could be a traitor. Please answer my questions.