Sex Education At A Younger Age

[Crumpet]

I think this is duiscusting honestly. My friend came up to me (she's 8 years old) and said a guy came in a started talking about "naughty parts". 8 is way to young to be talking about that... I think it's the new principal as I went to the same school and wasn't allowed to learn until I was twelve, when puberty ACTUALLY kicks in.

So what do you think?

[Raxbend]

Yea ummmmmmm 8 is just way.........way to young

[RRMS]

I knew at a young age, Only because I heard my sis talking about it...Then my parents shoo'd me away.

I think the age is good enough...It shouldnt be lowered...Any More..

[Arcantress]

8?

That really is sad. Has democracy really fallen that far?

8 is far too young to be learning about that kind of stuff. 12 is definately an okay age. But 8?

Wow.

[RRMS]

8?

That really is sad. Has democracy really fallen that far?

8 is far too young to be learning about that kind of stuff. 12 is definately an okay age. But 8?

Wow.


*Sigh*
A agree with you...
Seriously..
8?
That is a bit low for knowing about...
that
stuff...
(As I said before)

[Sunshine Sailor Senshi]

At 8 years old? That seriously is too young, I was grossed out when I learned at 12 years old.

[Varnor]

i think I learnd about when i was about 9, and that was at school. man it grossed me out. I believe 12 is good

[Nymph of Destiny]

I definitely think speaking about sex to an eight-year-old is way too young. It could scar them, or make them...say, naughtier when they grow older. However, if you know for certain that this knowledge will not affect them (largely), and they're curious, then I suppose it wouldn't hurt to tell them (not in a detailed manner of course)...I had actually learned of sex at a young age (not that young though), and I didn't think much of it. I knew it and that was that.

So, my answer put shortly? Kids shouldn't learn of that sort of activity until older...like say 9, or 10. If they're 8 and they're curious, I would rather suggest trying your best to divert the subject, or stick with the casual stork story. But truly, they're going to learn sooner or later, so it shouldn't be too late, or too early...just right when they either want to know (and they're ready for it), or when they should know. So if 8's the right time, go ahead. If it isn't, then don't. It all matters on the kid's perspective and what it may do to their future. More than likely, eight is way too young, as it might make them worry, feel grossed out, make them intrigued with it, or some other adverse possibility. However, it's still up to the parent to decide whether to let them know of this, whether they think they're ready for it, or not.

[Catch the Rain]

IMO kids should be allowed to be kids, there is too much that causes them to grow up too quickly now days. Learning about that at 8 years old is a bit extreme.

Though I also think that if a child asks about it then they shouldn't be lied to.

Another point, most kids already know anyway, at least to a small extent, for one thing it is around us all the time, kids pick up on stuff.

Difficult topic IMO, some kids hit puberty a lot earlier or a lot later than the average, when would you define those as being ready to know?

[Crumpet]

thats true - butat that age - if they do ask - you should try to avoid the subject

[Catch the Rain]

thats true - butat that age - if they do ask - you should try to avoid the subject

I disagree, if they ask then they should be told the truth. There are a hell of a lot of teen moms and young parents because they weren't given the right information or told the truth. IMO by trying to protect a child from knowing, you can sometimes do more damage than good.

I DO think that 8 is too young, but I also recognise that the governments have to do something about the sub standard level of sex education in schools. Though I do think they should focus on the teaching already in place instead of targeting a younger age.

[clawtooth35]

I agre with CtR (glomps) I think it should be taught at 12 but If a child asks their parents they should tell them the truth.

[Nailpolish <3]

our school was educated well. but really early. BUT it wasn't the teachers who taught us xD

[Catch the Rain]

I agre with CtR (glomps) I think it should be taught at 12 but If a child asks their parents they should tell them the truth.

8D exactly!

our school was educated well. but really early. BUT it wasn't the teachers who taught us xD

That is exactly what I mean, kids now probably know a hell of a lot more than what the teachers and governing bodies assume anyway.

[clawtooth35]

how young is very young.

[Hakurei Reimu]

Personally, I really don c wats the advantage of earlier sex ed.

For downside, it could make some kids even more curious towards it which can b really troublesome at times.

[Amethyst Grave]

8 years old is WAY too young! Geez! But if theyre Curious they should be told but not in too much detail.

[Darkcloud]

I think this is duiscusting honestly. My friend came up to me (she's 8 years old) and said a guy came in a started talking about "naughty parts". 8 is way to young to be talking about that... I think it's the new principal as I went to the same school and wasn't allowed to learn until I was twelve, when puberty ACTUALLY kicks in.

So what do you think?

Good grief, 8? There's no way they'd understand it that early. 12 yes, but 8? That's just...no.

[Repliku]

I think this is duiscusting honestly. My friend came up to me (she's 8 years old) and said a guy came in a started talking about "naughty parts". 8 is way to young to be talking about that... I think it's the new principal as I went to the same school and wasn't allowed to learn until I was twelve, when puberty ACTUALLY kicks in.

So what do you think?

There are 4 year olds that tell you to 'F' off and suck on 'that' etc and some know enough what they are referring to, even if they don't get it entirely.

There have been 8 year olds and younger children that have been molested and/or raped and violated. They also get put in situations and adults will be talking 'smut' and can even 'scheme' things about kids at a dinner table. Some kids don't even 'realize' they were molested because the adults are that sly and then later the person looks back and has to ask 'just what was Uncle Bob touching me there for?'. Finding out 'later' in life that you were molested by someone you thought was trying to help you or check you over for wounds etc...that's just not cool and sends enough of people to the psychiatrist later.

There have been 8 year olds that have become sexually active, doing acts of masturbation. There are some kids that start masturbation even before 4 years old. They don't 'know' what they are doing but they just know it can feel 'good'.

As 'gross' as it can be to think of having your 8 year old kid in a health class to explain sexual education, I would say by 8 years old my own kid (when I have one) will probably already know the sorts of things they should teach there because the last thing I want is to see my kid get 'manhandled' by some adult or even by some other kid who becomes sexually intrigued and convinces the kid to go to the 'playground' and investigate etc. I don't think the kid needs to know 'everything' such as putting on condoms or doing sexual acts etc, but I do think explaining how 'babies are made' and also warning children of dangers and to know if someone is touching areas they should not to 'say something' etc would help things out. That way if some uncle or whatever does something bad, you'll know it. Some might say they'd teach their kid that sort of thing, but sadly, not all parents will because sex is so damned taboo. Of course we don't want kids 'having' sex, but the reality of the situation is that if you don't make your kid smart, school doesn't...someone else is going to and it won't be the way that kid would have wished to learn.

So, I'd just have to say, a 'lite' version of Sex Ed I would think would not be that bad. It's something the kid can pay some attention to, but also go on being a kid and not worry about it.

[JedininjaZC]

I think this is duiscusting honestly. My friend came up to me (she's 8 years old) and said a guy came in a started talking about "naughty parts". 8 is way to young to be talking about that... I think it's the new principal as I went to the same school and wasn't allowed to learn until I was twelve, when puberty ACTUALLY kicks in.
So what do you think?

8!!!! I understand 10 or 12, but 8!! that is way to young.

[Catch the Rain]

There are 4 year olds that tell you to 'F' off and suck on 'that' etc and some know enough what they are referring to, even if they don't get it entirely.

There have been 8 year olds and younger children that have been molested and/or raped and violated. They also get put in situations and adults will be talking 'smut' and can even 'scheme' things about kids at a dinner table. Some kids don't even 'realize' they were molested because the adults are that sly and then later the person looks back and has to ask 'just what was Uncle Bob touching me there for?'. Finding out 'later' in life that you were molested by someone you thought was trying to help you or check you over for wounds etc...that's just not cool and sends enough of people to the psychiatrist later.

There have been 8 year olds that have become sexually active, doing acts of masturbation. There are some kids that start masturbation even before 4 years old. They don't 'know' what they are doing but they just know it can feel 'good'.

As 'gross' as it can be to think of having your 8 year old kid in a health class to explain sexual education, I would say by 8 years old my own kid (when I have one) will probably already know the sorts of things they should teach there because the last thing I want is to see my kid get 'manhandled' by some adult or even by some other kid who becomes sexually intrigued and convinces the kid to go to the 'playground' and investigate etc. I don't think the kid needs to know 'everything' such as putting on condoms or doing sexual acts etc, but I do think explaining how 'babies are made' and also warning children of dangers and to know if someone is touching areas they should not to 'say something' etc would help things out. That way if some uncle or whatever does something bad, you'll know it. Some might say they'd teach their kid that sort of thing, but sadly, not all parents will because sex is so damned taboo. Of course we don't want kids 'having' sex, but the reality of the situation is that if you don't make your kid smart, school doesn't...someone else is going to and it won't be the way that kid would have wished to learn.

So, I'd just have to say, a 'lite' version of Sex Ed I would think would not be that bad. It's something the kid can pay some attention to, but also go on being a kid and not worry about it.


Quoted for sheer beauty, there is nothing more I can add to that.

[Ultima Wepon]

ok age 8 is defanatly to young,age 12 is good

[Shadow]

Okay, seriously, there is nothing gross about sex and the things involved with it, sex itself is a beautiful thing, that should be admired, not swept under the covers, like many people do. I think that it should be taught from an early age, maybe 10. Not everything about it, but just a quick introduction, to crush curiosity. If a kid ASKS their parents about it at any age, it should be told, but again, not the entire story, just the basics.

As for things like masturbation and pornography, that shouldn't really be told to anyone until they are 13, once they go through puberty and are actually able to...participate in the act. But this also can be the parents choice, if they want to avoid it, then thats their choice.

[Nymph of Destiny]

There are 4 year olds that tell you to 'F' off and suck on 'that' etc and some know enough what they are referring to, even if they don't get it entirely.

There have been 8 year olds and younger children that have been molested and/or raped and violated. They also get put in situations and adults will be talking 'smut' and can even 'scheme' things about kids at a dinner table. Some kids don't even 'realize' they were molested because the adults are that sly and then later the person looks back and has to ask 'just what was Uncle Bob touching me there for?'. Finding out 'later' in life that you were molested by someone you thought was trying to help you or check you over for wounds etc...that's just not cool and sends enough of people to the psychiatrist later.

There have been 8 year olds that have become sexually active, doing acts of masturbation. There are some kids that start masturbation even before 4 years old. They don't 'know' what they are doing but they just know it can feel 'good'.

As 'gross' as it can be to think of having your 8 year old kid in a health class to explain sexual education, I would say by 8 years old my own kid (when I have one) will probably already know the sorts of things they should teach there because the last thing I want is to see my kid get 'manhandled' by some adult or even by some other kid who becomes sexually intrigued and convinces the kid to go to the 'playground' and investigate etc. I don't think the kid needs to know 'everything' such as putting on condoms or doing sexual acts etc, but I do think explaining how 'babies are made' and also warning children of dangers and to know if someone is touching areas they should not to 'say something' etc would help things out. That way if some uncle or whatever does something bad, you'll know it. Some might say they'd teach their kid that sort of thing, but sadly, not all parents will because sex is so damned taboo. Of course we don't want kids 'having' sex, but the reality of the situation is that if you don't make your kid smart, school doesn't...someone else is going to and it won't be the way that kid would have wished to learn.

So, I'd just have to say, a 'lite' version of Sex Ed I would think would not be that bad. It's something the kid can pay some attention to, but also go on being a kid and not worry about it.

I agree completely...although what you said was basically what I said earlier, except longer and better explained. XD

However, to put it shortly...kids will find out eventually, and although gross, it's better for them to find out than avert the subject. Hopefully, their parents will be able to help them with knowing the right morals and limits and such, about sex. So really...it's up to the parents, but I would advise not trying to change the subject or anything...just don't explain it to them in a detailed manner.

[Bubble Master Califa]

An 8 year old knowing about sex is bad but they should learn it at a younger age and more importantly learn about safe sex (teaching abstinence never works at all nowadays but telling students about STD's and what they can get without using the proper types of protection is responsible but don't encourage them to have sex but if they must they should practice the safe version.

and I know a friend of mine and she's 14 and was very sexually active until her mother found out about it when the school told her mum that she was breaking into a shed with six other men and doing 'mature' things with them. She's been ridiculed and put in trouble of it and I've told her she needs to take some tests as she had unsafe sex at least four times with four different men. But her mum has grounded her for a year and she can't leave the house and isn't willing to tell her mum she is at risk.

She wasn't educated on anything so they should reinforce teaching sexual education at 12 as they don't in my school and wait until all of you are 14-15 and it is really poor how they go around it.

Opinions differ but that's what happens in my school and I find it unacceptable.

[White_Rook]

I learned the general difference between men and women along with maturational development starting in grade one. And learned about intercourse when I was about 9 or ten-- so around the fourth or fifth grade. I don't think there's anything really wrong with it seeing as at that time kids have the introspective thoughts about where they came from. It's better to be forearmed and forewarned as opposed to learning from ridiculous rumours and misconceptions in the school yard. And hey, if taught right like any other fundamental in elementary school there's application in the long run to developing choices and being consciously aware of some of the later hazards in life.

[O R A N G E]

I personally don't think that it should be taught in school until about 6th grade. Parents should be encouraged to teach their children about it when they feel that there child would benefit from knowing. For instance, if the child is 8 and asks where babies come from, the parents should tell them in a very general and brief way. If you lie to a child, they're likely to go to school the next day and tell all their friends that babies come from storks, possibly confusing some. But as far as an actual class goes, I'd say 6th grade would be the best year to start. Any younger and it seems highly unnecessary, becuase the child probably won't be able to relate to anything that they are being told will happen to their bodies or the concept of sex in general. Not that they would in 6th grade, but you've got to start somewhere, and you don't want kids getting into the age where they might be thinking about having sex without knowing about it and its possible consequences.

[Darkwatch]

11, 12 or 13 is a reasonable age. Since you're going through puberty then, you'll understand it more.

At 8 years old...dear god, just make our society more perverted why don't ya. xD lol

[Cissnei_X_Tseng]

Yes it should be the parents choice but also many children now a days are getting pregnant by the age of 12 sometimes a bit earlier. My own cusion just had a baby in October and she is only 16. I think that to a point sex education for safe sex practices should be taught fairly early but at age 8 that sounds like its a little to soon.

[Mielé]

umm...well, for a start, i actually cant remember when i first learnt about it, probably from a book, and my older cousins or something like that. well, my grade learnt about sex in grade 7, and its sad that the teachers thought we didnt know about it, except for some kids (one of the boys thought girls couldnt urinate cause they didnt have a pen is) which i think is just...sad.

anyway, enough bout my school, an 8 yr old to know about it, who cares really, my brothers 7 and he knows about it.

see what cousins and books do T.T

[Misty]

Well, personally, I watched "the movie" when I was eight years old. At my old elementary school, they showed it in fifth grade (however children could be exempt from it with a signed slip from the parent), but I went along with my sisters, who were ten at the time. I also went through the early stages of puberty very early on (around 10 or 11), so I don't think that learning about sex at an early age can be entirely bad. We started to go into more depth in sixth or seventh grade, which I do agree, is the best age.

However, I don't think that adults understand that children are going to go through their early years without picking some of this up. Parents think that their children will never learn about this from people in their school or someone on the street, when, in reality, they could.

But I'm straying a little off-topic, so all-in-all, I'm in the middle with this subject: In some cases, eight is a little too young, especially if the child is very immature. But for children that will hit puberty early, it could be beneficial.

[Repliku]

Well, personally, I watched "the movie" when I was eight years old. At my old elementary school, they showed it in fifth grade (however children could be exempt from it with a signed slip from the parent), but I went along with my sisters, who were ten at the time. I also went through the early stages of puberty very early on (around 10 or 11), so I don't think that learning about sex at an early age can be entirely bad. We started to go into more depth in sixth or seventh grade, which I do agree, is the best age.

However, I don't think that adults understand that children are going to go through their early years without picking some of this up. Parents think that their children will never learn about this from people in their school or someone on the street, when, in reality, they could.

But I'm straying a little off-topic, so all-in-all, I'm in the middle with this subject: In some cases, eight is a little too young, especially if the child is very immature. But for children that will hit puberty early, it could be beneficial.

I can see why you are torn on it, and I'm not sure '8' years old is the age I would say to teach it but perhaps 10 years old since there are very few people that actually are going through things at 8. However, you bring up points I did and others did as to why I think it should be taught earlier.

There are girls that hit puberty early. I can remember girls that were a bit more heavy set getting 'boobs' at 10 even. I can also say that kids do pass around information to one another and well, rather than 'kids' teaching things that some adults just toss out there to kids and is well...a biased point of view, I think for the kids' safety at large, they should know the truth. Some parents really do tell their children the wrong things and well, when you can hear 4 year olds telling you to go f yourself up the ***...do you want that same kid telling your child about sex when he's 8? I would hope not. But it will happen because that kid will be 'cool' and doing things he or she should not at even as young as 8 and though it won't be full intercourse, it may just involve going out and groping and even molestation.

In an ideal situation, -parents- would teach their children, but it just doesn't happen that way often. Some parents won't even say anything other than 'just don't you be having sex' and just toss girls pads because they should already know what they are for because school taught them, and for boys, sometimes parents try to just say how 'bad' they are as they go through their puberty years and don't say anything to them either, which to me, can just as well encourage the 'curiosity' as with telling children all about sex at an early age.

This is why I'd hope that the version they'd teach 8 or 10 year olds etc would be something 'lite' because kids don't need to know how to put on condoms and do the acts, but they do need to recognize truth from fiction because sadly even some adults don't know that.

[Dredica]

I learned about it when I was in like fifth grade. But really, most kids have to atleast pick some of it up, it would be stupid to say they wouldn't. When all of the boys had the class, a hot teacher was teaching it (not to be a pervert lol), but any way, we all just laughed, we had always been talking about sex.

[Solid Snake]

8 Years Old! Omg Thats Way To Young!

[Crumpet]

have you noticed that only people who agree ist too young are posting...

[Repliku]

have you noticed that only people who agree ist too young are posting...

Most seem to disagree which I see some of their points but some who have thought it wasn't such a horrible idea also have. It is an issue that I think might be somewhat difficult to comment on for some people whether they agree or not with what is said.

[Roxas is Hot]

Of course not. Kids that young shouldn't be talking about any of that kind of stuff until their about to hit puberty, or mature enough to discuss such a matter.


They wouldn't even understand half of the sexual crap that runs in sex ed anyway.

[JedininjaZC]

people who learn at an earlie age about the 'body' might think that *censored* is the only meaning of life. and i think that it should be learned when the child starts to enter pubirty, or starts to get a crush on a classmate in school. But if its before they are growing into puberty stages, i think they don't need to know.

[Xendran]

im not sure abotu the age. it diffferes with everyone. you can definately tell in my grade 8 class. i hti puberty at 11 years old, bu alot of gthe guys in my class really havent had nay major changes yet, and due to that, i look about 2 years older than most of them, and im about a head taller than everybody in my class (cept two other ppl who are pretty much exactly my height)

[SpazticFantaztic :3]

I had the talk about puberty last year, when i was 10. It was disscusting! We were supposed to have "the talk" this year, but i moved. I still don't believe it. I saw on Nickelodion a commercial that said that kids should have sex ed at a younger age. And yes, On NICKELODION! I mean come one! Some kids are probably going to tell their parents "mommy, what's sex?" "oh, honey..well, why do you ask?" "i saw something about it on Nick!" Granted, it wasn't like, Nick Junior but still!

[11jones2]

8 is do young for the whole talk about every thing i say that at 8 they should learn a littlbe bit like what puberty does but nothing else

[daxma]

To be totally honest eventually a child will come into a situation when his/her peers will
know of the "sexual world" before him/her and they will tell him/her or tease said person until said person asked there parent.If schools taught them this stuff "softly" and slowly there wouldn't be so much pressure on the parents and the children. even if it's from a younger age it would take alot of pressure.The subject of sex education is treated like the darkness.It's treated horribly but it is merely unknown and weird territory to go through but the younger you cope the more ready you are.

[EvilMan_89]

way too young. they don't need to know this stuff yet tho that's the age i learned of this stuff (funny story really, when i was walking home from school, one of my friends came up to me and asked "do you know what sex is?" i said no and he proceeded to explain, lol). but i think middle school children is a more appropriate age to learn this stuff. i mean, every child is different so we really can't say for sure but we don't wna expose them to too much at once tho. with all the crap that's on TV tho, it's hard not for them to learn what it is (look at the Simpsons and Family Guy for godsakes, there are so many sexual scenes and references).

[Crumpet]

8 is do young for the whole talk about every thing i say that at 8 they should learn a littlbe bit like what puberty does but nothing else

I agree that they should know bits about puberty - but they shouldnt have to worry about how babies are made - that just gonna lead to underage sex - underage pregnancy - depression - obesity etc

[TheMuffinMan]

I agree that they should know bits about puberty - but they shouldnt have to worry about how babies are made - that just gonna lead to underage sex - underage pregnancy - depression - obesity etc

That's like saying that underage teaching of geography will lead to family abandonment and that 10 year olds will study abroad, traveling through Europe.

If sexual education is only appropriate at a period when things of the sexual nature is relevant, well for one who decides when it is relevant? Should you not learn of it until you are Married? And then you should question why this thought process is not applied to all facets of education?

Should math only be taught when relevant? Should I only learn Math at the point when I need to count things? And Biology, why do I need to learn how Organs work if it's not relevant unless I become a Doctor, should Biology only be taught once you enter Medical School? And like I pointed out above, Geography. Should Geography be taught only at the point when one would travel to other countries?

[SpazticFantaztic :3]

.The subject of sex education is treated like the darkness.It's treated horribly but it is merely unknown and weird territory to go through but the younger you cope the more ready you are.

exactly. it s like darkness.i don't like this idea because i hate darkness, ad 8 is just too young!thats like saying children should join an army of darkness or choose which path:light or dark at age 8!

[EvilMan_89]

That's like saying that underage teaching of geography will lead to family abandonment and that 10 year olds will study abroad, traveling through Europe.

If sexual education is only appropriate at a period when things of the sexual nature is relevant, well for one who decides when it is relevant? Should you not learn of it until you are Married? And then you should question why this thought process is not applied to all facets of education?

Should math only be taught when relevant? Should I only learn Math at the point when I need to count things? And Biology, why do I need to learn how Organs work if it's not relevant unless I become a Doctor, should Biology only be taught once you enter Medical School? And like I pointed out above, Geography. Should Geography be taught only at the point when one would travel to other countries?

why would you teach an 8 year old about sex? do you WANT more teenage parents that abandon their children?

[TheMuffinMan]

why would you teach an 8 year old about sex? do you WANT more teenage parents that abandon their children?

Why would you teach an 8 year old about Geography? Do you WANT more teenagers to abandon their country and go to Rome?

Hey look, I can take outrageous exaggerated stances too

exactly. it s like darkness.i don't like this idea because i hate darkness, ad 8 is just too young!thats like saying children should join an army of darkness or choose which path:light or dark at age 8!

You seem to have misinterpreted what they were saying. Daxma is saying that sex education is treated like some great darkness, when in reality there is nothing wrong or 'dark' about Sex, it's part of human nature and people who treat it like it's some great evil zone are thinking about the whole situation completely backwards.

[EvilMan_89]

well, learning about geography has no dire consequences (at least not at the moment, the worst case scenario being that dumb/unrealistic one you said). having sex DOES have dire consequences, in the form of STDs, unwanted labor, emotional trama sometimes. even if they used a condom, the fact that they're not abstinate increases the odds of them doing something they willl regret. but at elementary school age, those kids really have no business learning about that becuz it really does destroy some parts of their innocene by knowing (like knowing that the stork is some fake creature, i know doesn't sound like much but some part of their innocent minds are shattered). also, you still never answerd, WHY would you teach an 8 year old about sex? would YOU personally do it?

[TheMuffinMan]

You act as if the second someone is educated on the matter, they're going to go out and do it, which is a massive and unfounded exaggeration. It's education, informing them, educating them on what it is, what it isn't, what is right and wrong, how it can be dangerous, etc.

Innocent minds shattered! Oh boy, I sure do love unfounded baseless information in intelligent discussion!

And I pose to you, WHY teach children about Geography?

[Bone Doctor]

lol, that raises a good point MuffinMan, they arnt scarring them forever with this, they are just informing them on what it is, i mean i never took a sex-ed class but ive know what they are like, and im sure that if any of the childrens parents did not agree with it, they could jsut have their child not take that class. It is, believe it or not, as simple as that.

[EvilMan_89]

You act as if the second someone is educated on the matter, they're going to go out and do it, which is a massive and unfounded exaggeration. It's education, informing them, educating them on what it is, what it isn't, what is right and wrong, how it can be dangerous, etc.

Innocent minds shattered! Oh boy, I sure do love unfounded baseless information in intelligent discussion!

And I pose to you, WHY teach children about Geography?

whatever, at least I"M actually supporting my arguements instead of just contradicting others and twisting everyone's words.

but look i see what you mean, not everyone is gonna go out and have sex just becuz they learned it but some of them WILL.

[Bone Doctor]

His argument is MY argument!!! we both eblieve in the SAME thing!!! im just backing him up because he already has a basis so im just working off of that

[EvilMan_89]

His argument is MY argument!!! we both eblieve in the SAME thing!!! im just backing him up because he already has a basis so im just working off of that

i talking about him. the kids DO need their innocent minds protected. that's why the FCC exists and that's why we shouldn't teach the kids about sex until they're ready which probably isn't 8 years old.

[Catch the Rain]

At the end of the day, when someone is ready to learn about sex isn't defined by a standard age. There isn't a point where a child has a birthday and is suddenly mature enough to know. It is something that differs from person to person. I think it is down to parental discretion to judge this ultimately, and it wouldn't hurt for children to know some of the basics. Just because they know about it doesn't mean they are going to go out and get themselves laid, pregnant and diseased. I know how to make pipe bombs (lol science class) but that doesn't mean I am going to go make one, I know about xenotransplantation, doesn't mean I am going to go perform a surgery.

Not only that, but IMO it is lack of knowledge that leads to high pregnancy rates and high STD rates.

Innocent minds do need to be protected true, but sex isn't evil. It is natural and a part of life. Hiding it makes it seem like a bad thing. Telling them about it doesn't mean they are corrupted =/ How do you decide when a person is ready for sex? If they know nothing about it then they wont be ready o_O

[Bone Doctor]

At the end of the day, when someone is ready to learn about sex isn't defined by a standard age. There isn't a point where a child has a birthday and is suddenly mature enough to know. It is something that differs from person to person. I think it is down to parental discretion to judge this ultimately, and it wouldn't hurt for children to know some of the basics. Just because they know about it doesn't mean they are going to go out and get themselves laid, pregnant and diseased. I know how to make pipe bombs (lol science class) but that doesn't mean I am going to go make one, I know about xenotransplantation, doesn't mean I am going to go perform a surgery.

Not only that, but IMO it is lack of knowledge that leads to high pregnancy rates and high STD rates.

Innocent minds do need to be protected true, but sex isn't evil. It is natural and a part of life. Hiding it makes it seem like a bad thing. Telling them about it doesn't mean they are corrupted =/ How do you decide when a person is ready for sex? If they know nothing about it then they wont be ready o_O

THANK YOU!!! for noting about parental discretion, i said somthing about it being up to the parents earlier, but i gues no one cares what i say (lol)

[TheMuffinMan]

whatever, at least I"M actually supporting my arguements.

I like to refer to the above as "the argument of someone with no argument."

but look i see what you mean, not everyone is gonna go out and have sex just becuz they learned it but some of them WILL.

Baseless facts, in my intelligent discussion? It's more likely than you think.

"Not everyone is gonna go out and drop out of school to move to New Guinea, but some of them WILL. Therefore we need to PREVENT our children from the knowledge of Geography!"

[Bone Doctor]

you know what i have to say??? ARGUMENT OVER!!! WINNER??? KIDS THAT ARE EIGHT SHOULD NOT!
have to learn about sex unless their parents deem it okay. THERE DONE

PS - feed my pet please?

[TheMuffinMan]

Nah, it's not very nice to declare an argument over just because <.< not fair to the opposing argument

[Bone Doctor]

well opposing argument hasent really ben showing much backbone HINT HINT - no one has said that it shoudl happen so.....

My Sweet Persuasive Skillz + Fact That Everyone On My Side Of The Argument Has An Education = I WIN!!!

but seriously i dont think anyone is going to continue this because you and me are only ones really saying anything so im done with this thread

[EvilMan_89]

I like to refer to the above as "the argument of someone with no argument."



Baseless facts, in my intelligent discussion? It's more likely than you think.

"Not everyone is gonna go out and drop out of school to move to New Guinea, but some of them WILL. Therefore we need to PREVENT our children from the knowledge of Geography!"

actually i have do have an arguement, which i have been trying to stress ALL ALONG

which is

sex education is something of mature material which therefore is why children should not learn it

i think we all agree that an 8 year old is not mature (not nessacarily for sex but mature in general)

i don't think ANYONE can deny that sex education is mature material

I like to refer to the above as "the argument of someone with no argument."
there you go doing it again, twisting my words around that's not very polite you know. i've been stating my views, all you've been doing is twising my words.


"Not everyone is gonna go out and drop out of school to move to New Guinea, but some of them WILL. Therefore we need to PREVENT our children from the knowledge of Geography!"
there it is again

you know what i have to say??? ARGUMENT OVER!!! WINNER??? KIDS THAT ARE EIGHT SHOULD NOT!
have to learn about sex unless their parents deem it okay. THERE DONE

PS - feed my pet please?
i agree with the parent thing but i dont' think the option for 8 year olds to learn about sex in elementary school should be there in the first place

[TheMuffinMan]

sex education is something of mature material which therefore is why children should not learn it

Why? How is it mature material? It's biology and safety education.

there you go doing it again, twisting my words around that's not very polite you know. i've been stating my views, all you've been doing is twising my words.

I'm showing you your own argument in relation to other material to point out double standards. The 'twists' of your own words sound pretty silly, don't they? That's what your argument is, silly.

[EvilMan_89]

Why? How is it mature material? It's biology and safety education.



I'm showing you your own argument in relation to other material to point out double standards. The 'twists' of your own words sound pretty silly, don't they? That's what your argument is, silly.
ok, that is COMPLETELY wrong right htere, it's mature material becuz for any sex involves nudity and undressing which in itself is mature too.

oh and i hardly see how twisting words shows double standards, the thing with that stupidi geography thing doens't even apply. that's not mature material, sex is. yes, by having sex educaiton for 8 year olds you ARE educating them, but not teaching them something they're ready for.

[TheMuffinMan]

ok, that is COMPLETELY wrong right htere, it's mature material becuz for any sex involves nudity and undressing which in itself is mature too.

It's understanding the human body, like they don't experience undressing and nudity every time they take a shower? Sexual Education isn't about suggesting awesome positions and lube usage, it's about understanding how you were born, learning about the human body, how it can be dangerous and ways to protect yourself, etc. all so that they're educated and informed about it, instead of getting the wrong information before the correct one.

oh and i hardly see how twisting words shows double standards, the thing with that stupidi geography thing doens't even apply. that's not mature material, sex is

It is a double standard, because Sex Education is nothing more than that: education. The same argument defending why Sexual Education is 'influencing bad decisions' in children could be applied similarly to how any form of education is 'influencing' them. Coloring books promote vandalism, nap time promotes sloth, Geography promotes abandonment, Earth Science promotes uncleanliness, Social Studies promotes propaganda, Gym class promotes physical fitness which leads to steroids, good lord look at all this foul things being pushed onto our young minds!

[EvilMan_89]

It is a double standard, because Sex Education is nothing more than that: education. The same argument defending why Sexual Education is 'influencing bad decisions' in children could be applied similarly to how any form of education is 'influencing' them.

but that education puts sex in their heads and causes urges that yes they probably wont' act on, but there is the risk they will. and see, we're both going in circles now. i see we both have VERY different definitions of mature which is probably why this is going nowhere

*trying to block the anime laser thing between our eyes that show that 2 ppl are in a disagreement*

EDIT: i'm done for tonight, i'm going to sleep now

[TheMuffinMan]

Geographical education puts exploration in their heads and causes urges to want to explore other continents and countries, yes they probably won't act on, but there is the risk they will, suddenly a family gets up in the morning and they have a note from Little Timmy saying he's off to explore Rome!

That's it guys, Children need to not know of the existence of Europe.

[Rainbow]

Well in my eyes there are really two parts of sex education.

There is the basics, which are dont get pregnant, blah blah blah we all know how that goes right?

And then theres stuff that goes into further detail, such as reproductive organs, condoms, tampons, etc etc.

The basics I believe can be taught at a younger age. Like some people say "Knowledge is power" If kids know about what it is and why its not the greatest idea in the world to do it at a young age, I think they will be less likely to go out and have sex.

And then later on when they are more mature, they can be taught the more mature material.

[White_Rook]

The fact of the matter is that it essentially comes to how the information is used and understood. Being a source education its use is solely for the purpose of furthering knowledge in the context of the right aspects that are associated with it. Arguing that a child knows that they didn't just pop out of thin air will increase their chances of having sex is like saying that teaching drug awareness is going to enthuse children into soliciting and using drugs. Just as every child is told that drugs are bad, they're told they exist as a result of sexual intercourse. It's not like they're being taught about foreplay or the natural pleasure that comes from the act, it's simply informing kids that mom and dad had a much larger role in giving them life.

[Laurence_Fox]

ok, that is COMPLETELY wrong right htere, it's mature material becuz for any sex involves nudity and undressing which in itself is mature too.

oh and i hardly see how twisting words shows double standards, the thing with that stupidi geography thing doens't even apply. that's not mature material, sex is. yes, by having sex educaiton for 8 year olds you ARE educating them, but not teaching them something they're ready for.

Sex doesn't necessarily involve nudity and nudity doesn't necessarily involve sex.

Allow me to explain.

1. Sex doesn't always involve nudity. Yes it is the most common way to go about it but the people involved do not have to be completely undressed for the act to occur. I'll leave it at that since there's impressionable minds reading.

2. Nudity doesn't always involve sex. The term 'Naked' is more used for sexual situations and 'Nudity' refers more to the artistic aspect of the unclothed human figure. In Ancient Rome and Greece, the nude human figure was the epitome of artistic development in both sculpture and paintings in the period only to be lost to the strict and rigid Byzantium style.

People need to learn the difference between those two wrongly interchangeable words. There is nothing sexual about Botticelli's 'Birth of Venus' or Michelangelo's 'David'. They are nudes of human form but not meant to be sexual.

So I guess teaching the youngsters art history is out of the question now? My my, the curriculum is whittling down.

Anyway, like MuffinMan said, what is it these youngsters are doing when they take a shower? I know I don't stroll into the shower fully dressed. I undress before going into the shower same as those kids undress before entering a bath or whatever. Such things are hardly mature once you get down to it.

I think MuffinMan was trying to make a comparison. I read about a different country and go: 'Hmm...I might like to go there.' Such things would have been viewed as 'treason' in certain days and ages. Still might be in the age we live in now. I don't know how many times I've heard from young anime fans 'Japan sounds so cool! I wanna live there.'
(Pardon if I completely missed the mark there, MuffinMan. It is rather late when I'm posting this.)

Personally, I learned about pads and tampons and my menstruation cycle when I was in the 5th grade. I think I would have been...maybe in the 8-11 range. Same as the men learned about their bits and putting a condom on a banana. The latter more in depth I learned in 7-8th grade and took sex ed in High School.

[EvilMan_89]

but what i mean is that sex is something mature, no denying that, and 8 year olds are immature both in the mind and the body. i mean yea, i get what you mean with nudity and sex not being totally related but you really can't have sex without SOME sort of nudity.

[Hummingbird]

well, learning about geography has no dire consequences (at least not at the moment, the worst case scenario being that dumb/unrealistic one you said). having sex DOES have dire consequences, in the form of STDs, unwanted labor, emotional trama sometimes. even if they used a condom, the fact that they're not abstinate increases the odds of them doing something they willl regret. but at elementary school age, those kids really have no business learning about that becuz it really does destroy some parts of their innocene by knowing (like knowing that the stork is some fake creature, i know doesn't sound like much but some part of their innocent minds are shattered). also, you still never answerd, WHY would you teach an 8 year old about sex? would YOU personally do it?
Likewise, learning about sex has no dire consequences. You're talking like learning about sex is the same thing as wanting to have sex although they are two completely different things. Going by your logic, kids shouldn't be taught history because learning about what the Nazis did might make the children want to do the same. Oh noez! =O And isn't it terrible how children are taught chemistry at school? That's practically begging for them to make some home-made explosives.

In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with sexual education early on. A child should have the right to learn about sex whenever he/she becomes interested in it. Perhaps kids shouldn't be told everything in exact detail, but they should be informed of the potential dangers of sex and that there's no rush to have sexual intercourse with another person. The more you sugar coat things for children, the harder the crash landing to reality will be. I'm a firm believer in that ignorance causes more teenage pregnancies than having learned about sex early in life. I'm 14 and I've known about sex since I was 4 (not in detail, mind you, but I did get the basic concept and that it's nothing that should be taken lightly) and I've never really had a desire to have sex myself.

And I fail to see how learning about sex "Takes away part of your innocence." Knowledge is beauty and knowledge about sex is no different. There is nothing impure about sex and there's no reason to treat it as if there was. The more you try to hide it from children, the bigger their interest will become. What little kid doesn't think along the lines of "Hey! Adults don't want to talk about this so it must be cool"? There's no point in letting a kid live in ignorance since finding out the truth is just a matter of time and the more time a child gets to think about it, the faster his/her view on the matter will mature.

[EvilMan_89]

fine they shouldn't be taught geography at age 8 then, i personally didn't even have history classes until like 7th grade anyway. or sex education. look, what i'm trying to say is that they're not ready for it! it's like trying to teach Calculus to 8 year olds, they're NOT going to understand it very well becuz they're NOT ready. i know it differs with every child and i know that not every kid is going to want to have sex just becuz they know about it (and i NEVER implied that EVERY kid is going to have sex becuz of the education btw) but they should just remain uneducated about it until they're ready. i think middle school children are more appropriate age.

Geographical education puts exploration in their heads and causes urges to want to explore other continents and countries, yes they probably won't act on, but there is the risk they will, suddenly a family gets up in the morning and they have a note from Little Timmy saying he's off to explore Rome!

That's it guys, Children need to not know of the existence of Europe.


you can't be serious. geography isn't something dirty but sex is. besides how many kids will have the money to go to Rome. i can't believe you actually think that geography would do that.

[White_Rook]

you can't be serious. geography isn't something dirty but sex is. besides how many kids will have the money to go to Rome. i can't believe you actually think that geography would do that.

As funny as it is to watch this, it might as well be made clear. The logic of your argument is being satirized. Assuming that sex-ed will increase the desire to have sex in children is the same as assuming that learning about geography will cause people to want to see it up close. It's not like they're going to be handed a half-assed understanding- it's called sex education because it places the subject in a context that can be understood and provide a basis of information to scaffold knowledge from.

[Hummingbird]

you can't be serious. geography isn't something dirty but sex is. besides how many kids will have the money to go to Rome. i can't believe you actually think that geography would do that.
And how many kids will decide to have sex with someone just because they've been taught sex-ed? Also, how exactly is sex dirty? Creating life should be considered everything but impure. I seriously don't understand why sex is such a taboo subject. Not being mentally (or physically) ready for sex is not the same as not being ready to know what it is.

If you just slow down and think about it, White_Rook's geography example is just as far fetched as your sex-ed argument. I fail to see how learning about sex will increase one's sexual desires.

[EvilMan_89]

i was sort of being just as sarcastic as he was it's not my fault he didn't say what he actually meant -_- and besides, SEX IS LIKE THE MOST MATURE THING IN THE WORLD. I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING MORE MATURE. anyways, why can't we just let kids be kids for a while? i mean 8 years old is so young for gods sake. and part of being a kid is yes, being ignorant and kinda stupid

like i said, they're not ready. you wouldn't teach them Calculus so why would you teach them sex education? they just won't understand/appreciate it as much as when they're the approrpiate age.

[White_Rook]

i was sort of being just as sarcastic as he was it's not my fault he didn't say what he actually meant -_- and besides, SEX IS LIKE THE MOST MATURE THING IN THE WORLD. I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING MORE MATURE. anyways, why can't we just let kids be kids for a while? i mean 8 years old is so young for gods sake. and part of being a kid is yes, being ignorant and kinda stupid

like i said, they're not ready. you wouldn't teach them Calculus so why would you teach them sex education? they just won't understand/appreciate it as much as when they're the approrpiate age.

I was still a kid after I learned about sex. In the right context it doesn't warp your mind.

[Catch the Rain]

Evilman I can see what you are saying about allowing kids to be kids, but you talk about sex as though it is something dirty and should be hidden away. Sex is a part of life and a part of nature, they are going to learn about it at some point, surely it is better for them to learn properly instead of being given myths by their peers. Do you have any idea how many teen pregnancies result because of myths like " You can't get pregnant your first time"

Education is education =/ it doesn't encourage them to have sex, hell if anything when we did sex education in put a lot of people OFF *vivid memory of the birth video* O.o

Making sure they are properly informed wont corrupt them or destroy their innocence, I don't know what school was like for you, but I can still remember sex jokes from when I was about 6, kids already have some idea of what it is. Teaching them can only be a good thing. Now I am not saying give them full major hardcore sex classes, but teaching them the basics is not dirty or wrong =/

[EvilMan_89]

Evilman I can see what you are saying about allowing kids to be kids, but you talk about sex as though it is something dirty and should be hidden away. Sex is a part of life and a part of nature, they are going to learn about it at some point, surely it is better for them to learn properly instead of being given myths by their peers. Do you have any idea how many teen pregnancies result because of myths like " You can't get pregnant your first time"

Education is education =/ it doesn't encourage them to have sex, hell if anything when we did sex education in put a lot of people OFF *vivid memory of the birth video* O.o

Making sure they are properly informed wont corrupt them or destroy their innocence, I don't know what school was like for you, but I can still remember sex jokes from when I was about 6, kids already have some idea of what it is. Teaching them can only be a good thing. Now I am not saying give them full major hardcore sex classes, but teaching them the basics is not dirty or wrong =/

i guess so but i personally think sex IS something dirty btw. i mean yes educating them is a good thing but not until they're old enough, otherwise it really wont' do them that much good anyways. i'm not saying they should never be educated on it, just hold off on it a little longer. i mean, i learned about it from a friend when i was around that age too, and yes it dint affect me badly but i was GROSSED OUT alot. but i don't think we should teach them the basics of HOW to have sex but rather the precautions/dangers about it. you know, like how drug education. but there is a problem with both educations, both of them would be explicitly telling them it's a bad thing. that would sort of make it have like a "forbidden fruit" sort of charm that most won't fall for, but that charm can't be a good thing (NOT SAYING ALL THE KIDS WILL FALL FOR IT, SO DON'T GO THERE). but i dunno, i just think a 12 year old would handle it more maturely than an 8 year old (and wont' be as grossed out)

[Catch the Rain]

i guess so but i personally think sex IS something dirty btw. i mean yes educating them is a good thing but not until they're old enough, otherwise it really wont' do them that much good anyways. i'm not saying they should never be educated on it, just hold off on it a little longer. i mean, i learned about it from a friend when i was around that age too, and yes it dint affect me badly but i was GROSSED OUT alot. but i don't think we should teach them the basics of HOW to have sex but rather the precautions/dangers about it. you know, like how drug education. but there is a problem with both educations, both of them would be explicitly telling them it's a bad thing. that would sort of make it have like a "forbidden fruit" sort of charm that most won't fall for, but that charm can't be a good thing (NOT SAYING ALL THE KIDS WILL FALL FOR IT, SO DON'T GO THERE). but i dunno, i just think a 12 year old would handle it more maturely than an 8 year old (and wont' be as grossed out)

Exactly, you learnt from a friend xD that isn't really the best way to learn

That's kind of what everyone has been saying >.> no one is suggesting we give them classes on how to actually ****, but to make them aware of the precautions etc and so they have a basic understanding.

Sex education doesn't say that sex is a bad thing, sex education doesn't assign good or bad to sex, it just gives information.

Though if you think about it, there is always going to be a small minority of people who see it that way, no matter what their age is.

There is no reason for them to be grossed out =/ I can see what you are saying, but then some people would be argued that not even a 12 year old is old enough.

[EvilMan_89]

Exactly, you learnt from a friend xD that isn't really the best way to learn

That's kind of what everyone has been saying >.> no one is suggesting we give them classes on how to actually ****, but to make them aware of the precautions etc and so they have a basic understanding.

Sex education doesn't say that sex is a bad thing, sex education doesn't assign good or bad to sex, it just gives information.

Though if you think about it, there is always going to be a small minority of people who see it that way, no matter what their age is.

There is no reason for them to be grossed out =/ I can see what you are saying, but then some people would be argued that not even a 12 year old is old enough.



yea it really isn't, he went into HUGE DETAIL and was probably WANTED me to be grossed out. i would've preferred not knowing and preferred to have just kept on believing in the stork, lol.

i think that actually differs from teacher to teacher, my teacher said that sex will destroy your life if you do it unmarried. and then she went on to gross us out when she said "my husband and i don't use condoms anymore we trust each other" and i was like "ILL, don't put that image in my head", lol

i dunno about the exact age they are actually ready to learn this tho but i can say w/o a doubt that 12 years old is a better age to learn this than 8 years old.

[Catch the Rain]

yea it really isn't, he went into HUGE DETAIL and was probably WANTED me to be grossed out. i would've preferred not knowing and preferred to have just kept on believing in the stork, lol.

i think that actually differs from teacher to teacher, my teacher said that sex will destroy your life if you do it unmarried. and then she went on to gross us out when she said "my husband and i don't use condoms anymore we trust each other" and i was like "ILL, don't put that image in my head", lol

i dunno about the exact age they are actually ready to learn this tho but i can say w/o a doubt that 12 years old is a better age to learn this than 8 years old.

O.o then that brings me to another point, the governments really need to think about how sex ed is taught, my little sister was taught by a Christian who told her that condoms were full of diseases and that they would go to hell if hey had sex before marriage. Sex ed shouldn't be about religion or race >: I am sorry you had such a crap teacher.

Of course there is no set age that we should know, it differs for each person. Which is why I think we can't say for definite that 8 year olds wouldn't be able to learn about it.

I do think that the way you have been taught has made you very biased in this, but then the way I was taught is effecting my opinions too xD

[EvilMan_89]

O.o then that brings me to another point, the governments really need to think about how sex ed is taught, my little sister was taught by a Christian who told her that condoms were full of diseases and that they would go to hell if hey had sex before marriage. Sex ed shouldn't be about religion or race >: I am sorry you had such a crap teacher.

Of course there is no set age that we should know, it differs for each person. Which is why I think we can't say for definite that 8 year olds wouldn't be able to learn about it.

I do think that the way you have been taught has made you very biased in this, but then the way I was taught is effecting my opinions too xD

yea but in general tho, older kids are more mature than younger kids

i am defintely biased in this case but i can see the other side's perspective too. but oh well, a biased perspective is still a perspective, i know my claims sound a little silly and exagerrated but they're definitely not unfounded tho

[Falling Star]

i think I learnd about when i was about 9, and that was at school. man it grossed me out. I believe 12 is good

I think this is duiscusting honestly. My friend came up to me (she's 8 years old) and said a guy came in a started talking about "naughty parts". 8 is way to young to be talking about that... I think it's the new principal as I went to the same school and wasn't allowed to learn until I was twelve, when puberty ACTUALLY kicks in.

So what do you think?

yea but in general tho, older kids are more mature than younger kids

i mean yes educating them is a good thing but not until they're old enough, otherwise it really wont' do them that much good anyways. i'm not saying they should never be educated on it, just hold off on it a little longer.

I think that you should be at least 12 yrs old, but hey im 11 and im learning about it. I wonder why they teach us about it at such a yong age. And I agree with you EvilMan.

[Sara]

I think personally it's up to the parents. My mom taught me about it when I was eight years old or so. She did it in the terms of my age at that point, and I was fine.

I learned about sex ed itself in eighth grade, and you were given a permission slip to have your parents sign it before you can stay in the class.

I think personally, it's a good policy, the parents can decide whether or not it's appropriate. My parents didn't give a rats behind on what I chose... *took the class and tolerated it*

It's up to the parents at a certain age, kids I don't think can really choose when to "learn" about it before puberty or around it.

[SpazticFantaztic :3]

You seem to have misinterpreted what they were saying. Daxma is saying that sex education is treated like some great darkness, when in reality there is nothing wrong or 'dark' about Sex, it's part of human nature and people who treat it like it's some great evil zone are thinking about the whole situation completely backwards.

what i meant was pre-marital sex. i have no problem with sex when your married, but premarital sex is a sin. if you teach young children about it, theyll probably be more likely to have it.

[Catch the Rain]

what i meant was pre-marital sex. i have no problem with sex when your married, but premarital sex is a sin. if you teach young children about it, theyll probably be more likely to have it.

Pre-marital sex is only a sin to some religions, since the entire world is not Christian and since not every child believes in God it would be wrong to teach them that it is a sin. I am sorry if I sound offensive but you cannot impose the ideals of a religion onto every single person. When do you propose people learn about sex then? Their wedding night?

If you teach young children about sex no it does not mean they are more likely to have it You teach childen about road safety too, doesn't mean they are going to be tempted to go drive a car and crash.

Do you have anything to back up what you are saying? because it seems as though you are making quite a bold statement with no evidence.


I am not meaning to sound harsh or cruel or anything like that, so please don't be offended.

[Repliku]

what i meant was pre-marital sex. i have no problem with sex when your married, but premarital sex is a sin. if you teach young children about it, theyll probably be more likely to have it.

Due to the fact children are not of -one- religion, to assume that children should be taught sex before marriage is a sin is kind of wrong. The point of sex education is not to make children have sex. It is to understand that kids get caught in predicaments where something sexual may happen and shouldn't they -know- what is going on? Also, some kids are going to have sex no matter what. The strict rules of the Dark Ages and Puritan times didn't stop the sex without marriage or adultery. So if people are going to do things, they are. I think most schools try to say abstinence is the best policy so that kids can avoid diseases or getting hurt emotionally etc but at the same time, understanding sexual things can help them as they grow. Hormones for kids are a tricky thing and kids do start experiencing hormonal changes at any time around 10 years old on up. Most do not experience things prior to that but some kids have been known to at age 8. There are preschoolers that masturbate but don't know what it is they are doing, and that's both girls and boys.

I do think that 8 years old is a bit young to be teaching kids about sexual intercourse, but I do think it can help to explain to kids what some parents refuse to about if someone does something to them that feels wrong etc and what to do. Also, there are some 8 year old girls that have started periods, though the number is low. So an easy light course without the condom stuff, birth control etc is well, fine by me.

At 10 to 12 years old though, kids are going to be hitting puberty more. If there were not boys or men that hit on girls of this age...well, the lessons of sexual safety wouldn't be needed, would it? Girls hit puberty earlier than boys so they are often the ones in more of a situation to have something happen to them from older people or curious boys who want to just 'see things' and understand why Julie one year is flat as a pancake and the next year has some perks. Sex education is not about teaching kids to just go and have sex. It's about knowing when a sexual situation may be arising, how to deal with your hormones, such as taking a cold shower, if you do have sex, what can you do so it's not full out sex, and also if you go all the way, what should you use to prevent STDs. It also teaches about STDs that can be passed on and to notice them so if a kid has symptoms, or as an adult the person has symptoms, they can go get treated. In the end, this isn't about -kids- having sex. It's about teaching kids so that they know into adulthood. The choice to have sex is a persons. The knowledge though of what happens ahead of the marriage room, a rape or molestation, diseases, childbirth, sexual frustration and ways to cope etc though seems pretty helpful for the person to have and carry with them throughout their lives. If you are religious and feel sex is a sin before marriage, you are fully obligated to make that choice. No one is going to say as a teacher 'go have sex'. If they do, that's pretty demented.

[Blademaster Mai'kel]

I was nine...and I was mature enough to accept it. A lot of you obviously weren't.

[Darkandroid]

Kids normally hear and know about sex way before they actually learn it in school. So teaching earlier is by no means a bad thing. Would you rather teach your kids now or wait a bit longer but risk the fact they could of already had unprotected sex without knowing the full implications that can that have.

If you teach them early, it becomes less of a mystery and people learn the right reasons to have sex.

[kaseykockroach]

It's the parents duty to educate their child about sex, not the school. It's always been that way. The kid reaches a certain age, and the parents have a private talk on the birds and the bees. As for just what age, I think 12 is best. That's the age right before you start becoming a teenager, so that's the best time to learn about it.
I can understand if a parent wants to have the talk early. Wait too long, and someone or something else might come in and give the kid the wrong idea.
And parents should also make sure the kid gets the idea that sex is'nt wrong, nor is it gross (but you still must take it seriously, or you'll have a kid you don't want in your hands).

[EvilMan_89]

It's the parents duty to educate their child about sex, not the school. It's always been that way. The kid reaches a certain age, and the parents have a private talk on the birds and the bees. As for just what age, I think 12 is best. That's the age right before you start becoming a teenager, so that's the best time to learn about it.
I can understand if a parent wants to have the talk early. Wait too long, and someone or something else might come in and give the kid the wrong idea.
And parents should also make sure the kid gets the idea that sex is'nt wrong, nor is it gross (but you still must take it seriously, or you'll have a kid you don't want in your hands).

well some parents don't like talking about it at all and really would prefer having someone else explaining it (understandably) becuz it really is kind of awkward teaching someone about sex.

[kaseykockroach]

well some parents don't like talking about it at all and really would prefer having someone else explaining it (understandably) becuz it really is kind of awkward teaching someone about sex.
They need to learn to get over that. Sex is not "immoral" or "naughty". It's something we do.
Hey, if my parents never had sex, I would'nt be here right now. xD

[White_Rook]

well some parents don't like talking about it at all and really would prefer having someone else explaining it (understandably) becuz it really is kind of awkward teaching someone about sex.

Most adults don't find conversation about sex that awkward. In my opinion it seems that the older you get the more it becomes talked about casually, and in retrospect it stops becoming such a big deal. But I can see where you're coming from. Some parents dread trying to work out the details with their kids. But if it comes without any assumption and the motive is purely educative, it tends to be easier and be less awkward for both parties.