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Jade Rhade
12-15-2007, 12:33 AM
I haven't RP'd for a few months, but I have to say that it's rather pathetic to see the terrible spelling and grammar present in many of the opening titles and background stories of the role-playing threads. I'm not singling anyone out; I used to RP myself on this site; but seriously, how hard can it be to run at least the opening post of your thread/ thread title though Microsoft Word? Or maybe even an old-fashioned thing called a dictionary?

If I'm overstepping my bounds, I apologize. Just thought someone should point this out.

Laurence_Fox
12-15-2007, 12:37 AM
I haven't RP'd for a few months, but I have to say that it's rather pathetic to see the terrible spelling and grammar present in many of the opening titles and background stories of the role-playing threads. I'm not singling anyone out; I used to RP myself on this site; but seriously, how hard can it be to run at least the opening post of your thread/ thread title though Microsoft Word? Or maybe even an old-fashioned thing called a dictionary?

If I'm overstepping my bounds, I apologize. Just thought someone should point this out.

Thank you for agreeing with me that the role play areas need improvement. While I would like each post to be run through spellcheck and Firefox comes with one included. >>;

But I think the opening post/title should at the very least be spelt correctly.

*Goes to nudge CtR here*

Catch the Rain
12-15-2007, 12:46 AM
This has already been pointed out and work is already being done to try and combat it. However I do think that if you force those rules onto RPers then it takes away the fun of that section. If they cannot post with freedom then you will find a hell of a lot of members wouldn't be able to post in that section anymore. I personally prefer quality over quantity, but you cannot restrict that many people from RPing.

I would also like to add, as I have said so often in the past few days, not all of the RPers are like thast. Yes there are some issues, but there are also some damn good RPers.

I keep hearing a lot of people say "I used to RP here but then it got rubbish" well maybe if those who feel the RP section is failing these days went back in there as examples to those who currently RP to these low standards they keep being accused of (unfairly in some cases IMO) then maybe the quality could be lifted.


Encouraging good grammar and spelling by all means I agree to, but as I have just said to someone else who suggested "tests" before RPers can post, you can't impose those kind of rules and restrictions on them, for one thing it doesn't give a very good image of the site (totalitarian authoritarian) and for another, the same thing would have to be done in all areas of the site. Trust me Intelligent Discussion can sometimes be just as bad and the posts count in there.

Kroshanks
12-15-2007, 12:49 AM
Well, good grammar in that section would be a plus, but I don't think you can really force them to start spelling right. After all, some kids don't know the language that well, so you can't really blame them for typing a few things out wrong.

Soushirei
12-15-2007, 12:52 AM
I haven't RP'd for a few months, but I have to say that it's rather pathetic to see the terrible spelling and grammar present in many of the opening titles and background stories of the role-playing threads. I'm not singling anyone out; I used to RP myself on this site; but seriously, how hard can it be to run at least the opening post of your thread/ thread title though Microsoft Word? Or maybe even an old-fashioned thing called a dictionary?

If I'm overstepping my bounds, I apologize. Just thought someone should point this out.
LOL JADE I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.

Haha, but in seriousness, the forum demographic will make this difficult to really get a large community of RPers that I feel you want to have, but I do agree that spelling words correctly (some grammar errors I think can be overlooked) is a good first step.

Starry :D
12-15-2007, 12:54 AM
I have to agree to me it's really bother some to try to read what the person is writting.

Catch the Rain
12-15-2007, 12:55 AM
Well, good grammar in that section would be a plus, but I don't think you can really force them to start spelling right. After all, some kids don't know the language that well, so you can't really blame them for typing a few things out wrong.

Which raises another point; not all those who RP have English as their first language. Now I am not using that as an excuse, but it is impossible to expect all the RPers to have a perfect grasp of spelling and grammar.

Jade Rhade
12-15-2007, 12:55 AM
I keep hearing a lot of people say "I used to RP here but then it got rubbish" well maybe if those who feel the RP section is failing these days went back in there as examples to those who currently RP to these low standards they keep being accused of (unfairly in some cases IMO) then maybe the quality could be lifted.

No, the RP'ing was still good when I stopped. I just didn't have time for it anymore. I just think if one has the time to come up with a plot and story, he or she should just take the time to make sure it's at the very least understandable. Grammar I'll usually let slide because the English language is difficult in that aspect, but spelling when it's absurdly easy to check it? Perhaps over break I'll try to get back into RP'ing as you suggest, but lately I simply do not have the time for it. Sorry. D=

La Sofa
12-15-2007, 12:57 AM
CtR and Spike are right. It would be great, but not might be first language and should force.

Soushirei
12-15-2007, 12:58 AM
Which raises another point; not all those who RP have English as their first language. Now I am not using that as an excuse, but it is impossible to expect all the RPers to have a perfect grasp of spelling and grammar.
I'm sure there's *some* lee-way for spelling and grammar errors, but you can't forgive the txt-talk, or other forms of writing that is an purposeful deviation away from spelling.

And I also understand that those who don't have English as a first language can find it difficult to RP, but it's also important to understand that if they want to do an RP in English, there is some expectation that they know how to write English decently enough to have a functional RP.

Catch the Rain
12-15-2007, 01:07 AM
I'm sure there's *some* lee-way for spelling and grammar errors, but you can't forgive the txt-talk, or other forms of writing that is an purposeful deviation away from spelling.

And I also understand that those who don't have English as a first language can find it difficult to RP, but it's also important to understand that if they want to do an RP in English, there is some expectation that they know how to write English decently enough to have a functional RP.

I fully agree with you, though IMO txt talk is something different to spelling and grammar as it has it's own category. Discouraging abbreviations and other forms of shorthand where it is a deliberate mis-use of the langauge is something I want to work on.

I also agree that if they want to RP in English they should have some basic grasp of the language to be able to post decently, however, you can't expect miracles you know =/ Not everyone is going to have that standard.

#1 DinestyX
12-15-2007, 01:11 AM
I just wanna know...why can't you all just leave us Rpers alone? If you don't like it than why do you keep coming to the Rp area?

Soushirei
12-15-2007, 01:14 AM
I also agree that if they want to RP in English they should have some basic grasp of the language to be able to post decently, however, you can't expect miracles you know =/ Not everyone is going to have that standard.
The truth there is that if they want to have an RP that will 100% cater to their English level, they have to create one themselves. Like I said in another post, people have different requirements and expectations for their RPs, and if there is someone who doesn't meet that requirement (not just their level of English, but other things as well), they have every right to tell that person they can't join.

The same thing can happen here. If someone doesn't have the English level (or even RP capability) requirement that someone wants, that person has the right to say no.

Because in the end, you can set RP-wide standards for the RP forum (like one paragraph minimum per post), but everyone's going to have their own personal standards for their RP (no txt-talk), and no one can force them to change it--because *then* there's going to be problems. I'm sure no one will like it if their RP is suddenly out of their control and they can't decide for themselves what goes in it.

Laurence_Fox
12-15-2007, 01:19 AM
I just wanna know...why can't you all just leave us Rpers alone? If you don't like it than why do you keep coming to the Rp area?

Why do you come to the Spam Zone? It's another part of the site and to be honest I would like to be involved if the role-play sections weren't so...bad.

I could also see myself starting up a role-play in the arena but having it be beyond the level of understanding of the members in there. Not to sound negative or anything or full of myself, but I have a good deal of experience in it and most of the rp ideas here seem kinda childish for me.

If that makes sense. <_> I'm not putting anyone down with this post I'm just saying what I think.

Catch the Rain
12-15-2007, 01:21 AM
XD Thank you.

You see, if you inflict rules and regulations to the extent of forcing grammar and spelling, then some members are going to be in the situation where they wont enjoy RPing anymore and will find themselves too restricted.

Today I made one new rule stating tht posts are at least a paragraph long. Would you believe I have already had complaints? Surprisingly though the complaints I have had, have ben from those RPers that I would put into the group of those good with grammar and english skills. So even when something is done to start trying to improve the section, there are still people unhappy and complaining, so this can't just be done in a heartbeat. It is a process that will take time. People just need to be patient.

#1 DinestyX
12-15-2007, 01:22 AM
Why do you come to the Spam Zone? It's another part of the site and to be honest I would like to be involved if the role-play sections weren't so...bad.

I could also see myself starting up a role-play in the arena but having it be beyond the level of understanding of the members in there. Not to sound negative or anything or full of myself, but I have a good deal of experience in it and most of the rp ideas here seem kinda childish for me.

If that makes sense. <_> I'm not putting anyone down with this post I'm just saying what I think.

I'm just saying that this kinde of stuff realy upsets alot of us and when we try to stand up for ourselves we get dereped like crazy! I also think that even if an Rp idea sounds 'childish' to you it may seem great to others

Laurence_Fox
12-15-2007, 01:30 AM
I'm just saying that this kinde of stuff realy upsets alot of us and when we try to stand up for ourselves we get dereped like crazy! I also think that even if an Rp idea sounds 'childish' to you it may seem great to others

I'm not being condescending or anything but at the end of the day a good deal of rpers on khv are children. I am 21 years of age and don't really wish to engage in some of the ideas I've read. I'd create one of my own but I would have to keep the fact of the young'ns reading it in mind. You can obviously see why I've not posted there with this reasoning yes?

When I bring the spelling/grammar it's not that I'm trying to be mean. It's sort of like when a teacher grades papers/assignments. Your teacher isn't being mean to you but is giving you advice to the future. Which is what I'm doing: Pointing out your flaws so you can improve and overall enjoy rping more.

#1 DinestyX
12-15-2007, 01:34 AM
I'm not being condescending or anything but at the end of the day a good deal of rpers on khv are children. I am 21 years of age and don't really wish to engage in some of the ideas I've read. I'd create one of my own but I would have to keep the fact of the young'ns reading it in mind. You can obviously see why I've not posted there with this reasoning yes?

When I bring the spelling/grammar it's not that I'm trying to be mean. It's sort of like when a teacher grades papers/assignments. Your teacher isn't being mean to you but is giving you advice to the future. Which is what I'm doing: Pointing out your flaws so you can improve and overall enjoy rping more.

well with you all teaming up on us you are ruining the fun of Rping! You make us all feal stupid and angrey. We like Rping the way it is. We can read eachothers postes and that's all that realy matters. I wish you would all leave us alone!

Roxasvsriku
12-15-2007, 01:46 AM
well with you all teaming up on us you are ruining the fun of Rping! You make us all feal stupid and angrey. We like Rping the way it is. We can read eachothers postes and that's all that realy matters. I wish you would all leave us alone!

Calm down... we're not here to flame people who support a suggestion.

As for the suggestion itself... I highly agree it would make the RPG arena a lot better. I was even showing my friend (Shikamaru) the RPG forum today and he just laughed at how lame it is. And believe me, he loves to RP.

However... as previously mentioned, it would be difficult to control those who don't use proper grammar/spelling... thus making it nearly impossible to make a compromise. =/

Pirateguywithapplepie
12-15-2007, 02:17 AM
well with you all teaming up on us you are ruining the fun of Rping! You make us all feal stupid and angrey. We like Rping the way it is. We can read eachothers postes and that's all that realy matters. I wish you would all leave us alone!

Look, I rp too. And let me tell you that there is no point in yelling at people in this thread. We're trying to help the rp section in this paticular discussion, not ruin the fun for all of the rpers.

Soushirei
12-15-2007, 02:23 AM
well with you all teaming up on us you are ruining the fun of Rping! You make us all feal stupid and angrey. We like Rping the way it is. We can read eachothers postes and that's all that realy matters. I wish you would all leave us alone!
On the contrary, there are many RPers that don't like 'the way it is'. And just to give you a hint, a lot of these unsatisfied RPers have been silent and have never posted once in the RP section because they've yet to find one that they want to join, for whatever reasons.

The RP section, whether you like it or not, has many ways in which it can improve. That's essentially *all* that is happening here. People are trying to make it better.

Banana Split
12-15-2007, 02:31 AM
Really, it depends on the members themselves. We can't "force" them to write correctly =\

It's just the fact that the members that post in the RP usually don't care how they write. But I must say that you should write with some decency. I go through and I see "hai gias u wnna b frndz". Please. How hard is it to spell "hey", "guys", "you","wanna'","be","friends". Really, it's not that hard.

You say that it's not our business and we're ruining your fun and all that. But every section of the forum counts on the forum's overall view. If a forum had no music section, it makes the whole forum look bad to those music-savvies. Same with RP. It takes some amount of the credit we get for the forums. It's just decreasing it gradually by the way your RPers RP. It's not too hard to improve, you just have to have the will for it =\

There's my two cents.

Vivi's Dark Side
12-15-2007, 02:49 AM
We don't gang up on you, we all see how bad your grammar is and in a miraculous(Sp?) event our fingers work as one as we all unify and laugh the hell out of you, if you want us to not laugh at you stay the **** away from any place but the RP section, were the standards deteriate every second, if you want to post in a place where the people like to be able to read stuff without having our heads tilting to the side going,

"huh...wtf is this kid smoking?"

Use proper grammar and this problem will be resolved.

So in closing, either shape up...or **** off.

Banana Split
12-15-2007, 02:50 AM
We don't gang up on you, we all see how bad your grammar is and in a miraculous(Sp?) event our fingers work as one as we all unify and laugh the hell out of you, if you want us to not laugh at you stay the **** away from any place but the RP section, were the standards deteriate every second, if you want to post in a place where the people like to be able to read stuff without having our heads tilting to the side going,

"huh...wtf is this kid smoking?"

Use proper grammar and this problem will be resolved.

So in closing, either shape up...or **** off.

This post wins because it got straight to the ****in' point.

Vivi's Dark Side
12-15-2007, 02:53 AM
This post wins because it got straight to the ****in' point.

Thank you.

so yeah don't complain if the problem can be resolved by you simply taking more than five seconds when posting to check over and fix your grammar.

Ghetto
12-15-2007, 03:01 AM
We don't gang up on you, we all see how bad your grammar is and in a miraculous(Sp?) event our fingers work as one as we all unify and laugh the hell out of you, if you want us to not laugh at you stay the **** away from any place but the RP section, were the standards deteriate every second, if you want to post in a place where the people like to be able to read stuff without having our heads tilting to the side going,

"huh...wtf is this kid smoking?"

Use proper grammar and this problem will be resolved.

So in closing, either shape up...or **** off.

I shall print and frame this. Vivi, I love you.

Catch the Rain
12-15-2007, 03:01 AM
We don't gang up on you, we all see how bad your grammar is and in a miraculous(Sp?) event our fingers work as one as we all unify and laugh the hell out of you, if you want us to not laugh at you stay the **** away from any place but the RP section, were the standards deteriate every second, if you want to post in a place where the people like to be able to read stuff without having our heads tilting to the side going,

"huh...wtf is this kid smoking?"

Use proper grammar and this problem will be resolved.

So in closing, either shape up...or **** off.

Vivi, this thread is about the posts in the RP section, telling them not to post outside the RP section doesn't really have anything to do with it o_O

Also, they have just as much right as every single other member to be allowed to post where they want. There are some members who don't RP, but their grammar etc is far worse.

Giving an ultimatum like that is not going to do any good in the slightest.

Vivi's Dark Side
12-15-2007, 03:06 AM
well she's just been whining after all the other things you guys have said, so obviously reasoning won't help, when all else fails, go for the ultimatum, that's my moto.

Catch the Rain
12-15-2007, 03:12 AM
well she's just been whining after all the other things you guys have said, so obviously reasoning won't help, when all else fails, go for the ultimatum, that's my moto.

Ok well in that case, should the same ultimatum be given to those who spam Intelligent Discussion? Or creativity? Or those who post in the media sections and arts section but don't actually contribute? People have tried reasoning with them, and they know the rules and how to act, but still they continue the way they do.

When all else fails go for the ultimatum, if we did that with every aspect of the site, we would lose one hell of a lot of members. Including some high up ones, I recall seeing spam posts and non contributing posts from several of those fairly high up not mentioning names :P

So far everything hasn't failed :) this is negotiating and compromising.

:) we will get there eventually =)

Vivi's Dark Side
12-15-2007, 03:17 AM
your patience and calm manner is astounding, I would be blood soaked if I was in a room with them, you'd be tear soaked as you'd make then cry with regret, I'd make them bleed.

We're two sides of the same coin you and I.

Banana Split
12-15-2007, 03:18 AM
I'd like it if you mentioned a few names lolol.

Is this one of those unneeded posts?



Well, I support the fact that if you can't stop those who don't follow, force them. It's the only way you can actually gain control.

Catch the Rain
12-15-2007, 03:22 AM
your patience and calm manner is astounding, I would be blood soaked if I was in a room with them, you'd be tear soaked as you'd make then cry with regret, I'd make them bleed.

We're two sides of the same coin you and I.

:) I actually take that as a compliement XD


@Split: names of those who aren't RPers? I don't think you would want them.

8D

Vivi's Dark Side
12-15-2007, 04:08 AM
:) I actually take that as a compliement XD


@Split: names of those who aren't RPers? I don't think you would want them.


8D


By all means take the compliment, I hand them out rarely after all.

Jordier0xs0x
12-15-2007, 04:19 AM
Okay, look here, I am a RPGer, I have good Grammar, good spelling, I am 12 years of age and am quite offended of how people call ALL Rpers n00bs.
Yes, there are some people who don't have the best Grammar In the world but really, If they want to spell like that, Its their problem, not anyone else's. I also find It funny that a couple of people In this thread don't even Roleplay, yet, they are complaining.

Oh and, on L_F's remark, there are some excellent RPG's In the area, with good Grammar, Spelling, Plot, everything. You just have to look around. If you want to make a A+ RPG, go for It, as most of you have pointed out, most RPGer's are bad with Grammar and probably wouldn't understand, so they wouldn't join, others are not quite like that. If you start a thread, maybe you can get some other members who have excellent Grammar to join, then It would probably Inflict on those who don't have the best Grammar In the world to HAVE good Grammar.

So, just leave them alone, I used to be a terrible speller but eventually I graduated In Grammar and look at me now. You just have to be patient

Vivi's Dark Side
12-15-2007, 05:47 AM
peoples patience is much like a piece of thread, it can only take the strain for a certain amount of time before it snaps under the pressure, like me i know there's members on this site with the patience of a food deprived Homer Simpson waiting for something to heat up in the microwave and trust me that's a short patience span.

If you graduated in gammar Jordie can you do us a favour and teach the rest of the class known as RP'ers a few things about punctuation and grammar?

Repliku
12-15-2007, 06:24 AM
As much as I agree that the RP Arena could use some serious consideration of spelling and grammar corrections at least in the titles of threads that does seem a bit anal (I win because I get to use this word now!) so I realize it just isn't the thing to do.

However, what I might suggest is that perhaps a separation of RPG types could happen with the areas where people post 20 times a day with single lines etc be in one spot, and then a separate section perhaps for people who would actually like to play RPGs with well, paragraphs, descriptions etc in them and post once or a few times a day instead. I have to say I would -love- to rp and do elsewhere, but there is just no way to get into RPGs here when people post a mile a minute simple things and no real plots seem to happen. I am sure there are some good RPGs in there too that don't ring to me of 'fangirl/boyism' and have seen a few, but if those were just perhaps separated more so people could find serious plot developed RPGs easier, it might make the RPG section a lot more enjoyable for us who can't hop in due to the way it is set up now.

I don't know if I am expressing this correctly because I certainly don't want to say all of the RPGs there are bleah, but I just think that there seem to be some of us who would love to do something but can't find the 'deeper plotline' more mature RPGs (not talking mature as in adult material here). That way we could see a section -with- correct spelling and grammar more, and hop into some RPGs that let us have a bit more creativity than is offered.

clawtooth35
12-15-2007, 12:59 PM
I agree. I mean, there are a lot of RPers (is that the plural?) who do type out their words, I won't use examples but on the RP I am currently engrossed in there are many but you always get the ones who don't and are n00bish (Is that even a word?). Again there are those who do this in my RP.

You just have to roll with it I think. The ones who do the tlk tlk thing usually are the ones who don't play a big part so you don't really pay attention. There are however some tlk tlk phrases and abreviations that have been accepted into the dictionary e.g. lol. I use these quite often because it is quicker but I only ever use them outside of my IC post.

Peyton
12-15-2007, 01:03 PM
*sigh*

As much as I would LOVE to be able to require good grammar, it's simply something we can't do. The rp section is something that should be open for everyone. BUT I am not by this saying that it's just free forward to use all the txt talk you want. It's horribly annoying. But not everyone have the luxury of being taught proper english.
A compromise would be that everyone should at least try and spell right and not say such things as every1. And for example try and spell everyone, everyon, evryone (the right spelling is everyone). At least try and spell things right.

So a new rule may be that everyone at least tried to spell a little and that txt talk would be forbidden ? Opinions ?

Soushirei
12-15-2007, 01:10 PM
You just have to roll with it I think. The ones who do the tlk tlk thing usually are the ones who don't play a big part so you don't really pay attention. There are however some tlk tlk phrases and abreviations that have been accepted into the dictionary e.g. lol. I use these quite often because it is quicker but I only ever use them outside of my IC post.
Just "rolling with it" is once again, another thing up to the RP starter. Letting someone in your RP despite their close-minded txt tlk, but assuming they won't play a big part--therefore ending up just ignoring their input to the story movement--can be dangerous, at least in the sense that some people will get upset over being cast aside or any other reason.

Repliku brings up a good point on making a separate section. I've said time and time again about how it would be somewhat impossible to completely change the section since there are obviously people who are resenting the need to increase the quality/requirements for RPs. It's strange how I couldn't fathom the idea myself, but at this point--where some members are completely adamant on sticking to their current ways--the only way that could address the issue with as little resistance as possible is to just make another sub-section that doesn't interfere with the present. Of course, this greatly reduces the incentive for some members to improve on their spelling/grammar/RP skill overall, but at least the option to view/partake in more thorough RPs is available.

Okay, look here, I am a RPGer, I have good Grammar, good spelling, I am 12 years of age and am quite offended of how people call ALL Rpers n00bs.
Yes, there are some people who don't have the best Grammar In the world but really, If they want to spell like that, Its their problem, not anyone else's. I also find It funny that a couple of people In this thread don't even Roleplay, yet, they are complaining.

Oh and, on L_F's remark, there are some excellent RPG's In the area, with good Grammar, Spelling, Plot, everything. You just have to look around. If you want to make a A+ RPG, go for It, as most of you have pointed out, most RPGer's are bad with Grammar and probably wouldn't understand, so they wouldn't join, others are not quite like that. If you start a thread, maybe you can get some other members who have excellent Grammar to join, then It would probably Inflict on those who don't have the best Grammar In the world to HAVE good Grammar.

So, just leave them alone, I used to be a terrible speller but eventually I graduated In Grammar and look at me now. You just have to be patient
You do understand that a lot of these people asking for 'proper spelling/proper grammar' are actually asking for a whole lot more. However, since it's impossible (and very unconstructive) to simply tell someone to "think of better ideas", it's a very loosely-implied notion that people with impeccable spelling and grammar will more often than not, merit more thoughtfully constructed ideas for an RP.

While it *would* be nice for spelling and grammar to be corrected, it still doesn't change the fact that a lot of the older, experienced RPers aren't interested in Pokemon RPs or KH/FF High School ideas.

So in hindsight, there's a bigger picture to be considered when someone starts requesting better spelling/grammar. True, if we simply just wanted to b!tch about people spelling better for the sake of just being correct, then that *would* be rather anal (as Repliku said), but a lot of the time there's a deeper meaning behind it.

And for the record, a lot of the people complaining haven't RP'ed at all because there just hasn't been an RP made that has been worth joining. You can say "there are good ones out there", but that's simply a matter of opinion.

I've had a good look around. There was not a single RP I found interesting or compelling enough to join.

Rosey
12-15-2007, 08:15 PM
*blinks*

Im going to have to just say no to this. You cant force someone to have good spelling and grammar, you can ASK, tell them its WANTED, but in my opinion, thats just pushing it to far to require it :/ And when you people make fun of people outside the RPing area, such as the spam zone, because of their spelling, I dont know, I dont think its right. And Im not saying I havent made fun of them because of their spelling. I Have xD. But when you make fun of someone because of their spelling, is alot like making fun of someone because they do something differently, is like making fun of me because I type in pink :/ Its like picking out the bad qualities in someone, and not noticing the good things, like their imagination or something like that :/

Wow I just got way of topic.

Bottom line, I just dont think that 1. We could enforce it, 2. You cant make someone have great spelling, that BS, 3. I dont know, I dont have a third reason, I just like the number 3 :3[

OH YEAH

3. What are we suppost to do? Give out warnings and ban people for their grammar and spelling? I mean seriously :/

Ratchet
12-15-2007, 09:43 PM
I don't think you can actually enforce spelling as this could be counted as discrimination due to conditions that effect the function and perceptions of the brain. It is a very grey area between setting such absolute levels and being reported for discrimination (over here it comes under the Disability Discrimination Act I believe).

On a slight point I have read a lot of people moaning that they cannot find a RP good enough join and yet none of them has taken the initiative until now to really create one with a sample post.

By the way, I am typing this post with only one hand due to a dislocated shoulder so it is possible to type reasonably if you take time and concentrate hard enough without dyslexia or a similar condition. Text talk is sloppy and in many cases unreadable. I dislike it in User Names as well but some people seem to find this acceptable. It's a case of different things for different people. The hardest (I would say impossible) job is to find a happy medium. You can please some people some of the time but not all the people all of the time, so a compromise is probably the best option. How about a subsection for 'casual RPs' which the less hard core RPers could post their threads in and another for the more serious 'hard-core' RPers? That might work as they need not cross paths then.

Vivi's Dark Side
12-15-2007, 09:56 PM
Yeah, if RP's are crap, make your own, like soush did, seriously guys go join it.

Repliku
12-16-2007, 02:27 AM
Yeah, if RP's are crap, make your own, like soush did, seriously guys go join it.

The problem though with making your own RP where you would request the RP to be ran slower and with cognitive thought out posts etc and actually being in character instead of fandom things is that putting it in the regular section would make the RP get lost. The threads there change so much and people do answer them all the time with a lot of posts per day, so a slower ran RPG is going to always get lost off the main page or first 10 pages if you get what I mean.

This is why I suggested a possible 2nd section sub-Forum so that RPs that aren't the same run of the mill thing could have a chance to survive and not just die out because they can't even be found. Hope that makes more sense why I was suggesting it.

Mish
12-16-2007, 02:44 AM
The problem though with making your own RP where you would request the RP to be ran slower and with cognitive thought out posts etc and actually being in character instead of fandom things is that putting it in the regular section would make the RP get lost. The threads there change so much and people do answer them all the time with a lot of posts per day, so a slower ran RPG is going to always get lost off the main page or first 10 pages if you get what I mean.

This is why I suggested a possible 2nd section sub-Forum so that RPs that aren't the same run of the mill thing could have a chance to survive and not just die out because they can't even be found. Hope that makes more sense why I was suggesting it.
I agree with your subforum idea. o:

Nymph of Destiny
12-16-2007, 08:57 AM
I disagree with the idea, since the RPG arena is supposed to be like the Spam Zone, plus, not all of the users' first language is English...but I agree with Repliku's subforum idea. :)

Ghetto
12-16-2007, 04:25 PM
I smell a sub forum..........>_>

I'm all for it xD

Ienzo
12-16-2007, 04:31 PM
I agree completely! I don't role play any more but when I did it really annoyed me beyond words when people used russish n00b grammar.

White_Rook
12-16-2007, 05:58 PM
Psh, you can even get spell check installed in your internet browser with the right tool bar. It's a sign of laziness and in most cases appears to be a dis-appreciation to the art form in my opinion. It can't be helped unless each individual does their part. But seeing as no one has really bothered to in a very, very, very long time some of us can only set examples and hope that they inspire others to see the power of spelling and grammar in the use of language.

Repliku
12-17-2007, 05:33 PM
Well then, perhaps a sub-forum would be the solution and others seem to like it. That way people don't have to mold to 'reform' but there can be RPs for others who do like better grammar and other pluses that come from other types of RP and we can find those RPs better.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 05:35 PM
I have decided I do not like the idea of a sub forum for different "standards" of RP, that would encourage division IMO, I see nothing wrong with those who wish for a higher standard of RP to simply post it in the existing section. IMO anyway, but I do not like the idea of having so "you RPers post here and you others post there"

Laurence_Fox
12-17-2007, 06:00 PM
So this is still going on huh?

With the way the RP Arena has been let to fall to rubbish and I'm not pointing fingers that it's anyone's fault here. It would be hard to enforce ANY kind of policy there from what I have witnessed. As far as I see it, they prefer sub-standard grammar and substandard posts consisting of a minimum of 2 words.

Which brings me to a tangent, if in the rest of the forum, even the SZ, are we made to post a minimum of 6 words then RP shouldn't be different. I think if we can get them posting a minimum(which I find ridiculous for rp posts) of 6 words, THEN we can move onto better things.

I just find it sad that some rpers are content with how things are now. I always like knowing I typed up a well thought out post that allows ample opportunity for the others involved to respond to.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 06:11 PM
So this is still going on huh?

With the way the RP Arena has been let to fall to rubbish and I'm not pointing fingers that it's anyone's fault here. It would be hard to enforce ANY kind of policy there from what I have witnessed. As far as I see it, they prefer sub-standard grammar and substandard posts consisting of a minimum of 2 words.

Which brings me to a tangent, if in the rest of the forum, even the SZ, are we made to post a minimum of 6 words then RP shouldn't be different. I think if we can get them posting a minimum(which I find ridiculous for rp posts) of 6 words, THEN we can move onto better things.

I just find it sad that some rpers are content with how things are now. I always like knowing I typed up a well thought out post that allows ample opportunity for the others involved to respond to.

Oh I fully agree with you, it has been left to get into a state, I have been itching to get my hands on it for a while XD though i am not accusing anyone of neglect ^^ the other sections are at the end of the day more in need of monitering.

I also agree that it should be 6 words at least, hmm I have actually added a rule stating at least a paragraph for all RP posts, but I think that might be asking for a bit too much so soon :/

Those who are happy with the state of it are in the minority, though I must just say, those who are happy with it are the ones who show the most dedication, they RP for the fun of it and the enjoyment they get from it. My only issue is that I don't want to detract too much from the fun element of it for them.

Repliku
12-17-2007, 06:16 PM
I have decided I do not like the idea of a sub forum for different "standards" of RP, that would encourage division IMO, I see nothing wrong with those who wish for a higher standard of RP to simply post it in the existing section. IMO anyway, but I do not like the idea of having so "you RPers post here and you others post there"

Well, without one, that really makes it harder to find RPs some of the rest of us would like which would be more like 'stories' than just line skits. It would be more difficult to find the threads etc. I think it's a real issue since I would love to RP but there's no way to find the sort of RPs I'm interested in with all of the more skit formed RPGs in there that some of us just can't keep up with. I may try my luck at forming a 'KH' rpg here since I run one in a chat group that goes pretty well, but I know it's just going to get lost in there, as will Soush's, and just look at all the thought he put into his! This is why I think they should be separated because there really is a difference in types of RP people enjoy.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 06:21 PM
Well, without one, that really makes it harder to find RPs some of the rest of us would like which would be more like 'stories' than just line skits. It would be more difficult to find the threads etc. I think it's a real issue since I would love to RP but there's no way to find the sort of RPs I'm interested in with all of the more skit formed RPGs in there that some of us just can't keep up with. I may try my luck at forming a 'KH' rpg here since I run one in a chat group that goes pretty well, but I know it's just going to get lost in there, as will Soush's, and just look at all the thought he put into his! This is why I think they should be separated because there really is a difference in types of RP people enjoy.

I really doubt that Soush's is going to get lost. I had the extra sections added to help tidy it up a bit so that it wouldn't be as chaotic as it currently is, I am doing Uni assignments right now so I haven't had the time to finish moving them all yet. If you create an RP that is suited to your tastes then you can ensure that it doesn't get lost, despite appearances there are not actually 4376524397562 million RPs that are active in there.

I do not want members seperated by ability. I am very much aware that there is a difference in the types of RP that peopel enjoy, but I see no reason why they cannot all be in the same general section. Division through ability is too strict and I am not going to support that. I am sorry.

Repliku
12-17-2007, 08:03 PM
I really doubt that Soush's is going to get lost. I had the extra sections added to help tidy it up a bit so that it wouldn't be as chaotic as it currently is, I am doing Uni assignments right now so I haven't had the time to finish moving them all yet. If you create an RP that is suited to your tastes then you can ensure that it doesn't get lost, despite appearances there are not actually 4376524397562 million RPs that are active in there.

I do not want members seperated by ability. I am very much aware that there is a difference in the types of RP that peopel enjoy, but I see no reason why they cannot all be in the same general section. Division through ability is too strict and I am not going to support that. I am sorry.

It's not division through ability. It's division by the genre type of RPG it is. There's already two places in there, so I don't see why a third couldn't be done. And I've tried playing in the RPG section in two RPGs so I do know what I'm saying here. Sometimes the RP i was on was on page 3 and it was fairly active. One that users post once or twice a day on is going to really get lost amidst that. I guess I see your point but feel this would solve a lot of problems because the sub-forum would be having the rpgs and there would be a smaller amount of them. Ah well though, if it doesn't pass.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 08:12 PM
It's not division through ability. It's division by the genre type of RPG it is. There's already two places in there, so I don't see why a third couldn't be done. And I've tried playing in the RPG section in two RPGs so I do know what I'm saying here. Sometimes the RP i was on was on page 3 and it was fairly active. One that users post once or twice a day on is going to really get lost amidst that. I guess I see your point but feel this would solve a lot of problems because the sub-forum would be having the rpgs and there would be a smaller amount of them. Ah well though, if it doesn't pass.

Well what is your idea for the subforum then? As in what genre?

Ghetto
12-17-2007, 08:13 PM
It's not division through ability. It's division by the genre type of RPG it is. There's already two places in there, so I don't see why a third couldn't be done. And I've tried playing in the RPG section in two RPGs so I do know what I'm saying here. Sometimes the RP i was on was on page 3 and it was fairly active. One that users post once or twice a day on is going to really get lost amidst that. I guess I see your point but feel this would solve a lot of problems because the sub-forum would be having the rpgs and there would be a smaller amount of them. Ah well though, if it doesn't pass.

We have 5 sub forums in there now.

Repliku
12-17-2007, 08:17 PM
Well something like 'Storytelling' RPGs which would fill the gap of slower RPGs where people write out paragraphs and all and the RPGs move like a book. That's the general idea there that I think separates them from the ordinary 'skit' done RPGs which just have the short sentences and all and a loose scene depiction. What Soush did is exactly the kind of genre I mean and if you look at it, it certainly looks different than 99 percent of the RPGs in the regular section. With their own areas, I think more of these RPGs would happen, and would do one myself too, and there does seem some interest. It's not to separate the RPGs based on 'this is crap' and 'this is cool' etc, because we all have opinions there. It is just to separate them on the sort of RPG being done, which is more of a creative writing thing that some people love to do but gets lost in the other stuff. Hope that makes more sense.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 08:18 PM
We have 5 sub forums in there now.

Exactly my point, though I would be interested in knowing what genre Repliku is thinking of because if it is possible I will look into it. I want all the RPers to be happy, but the staff cannot allow everything.

Well something like 'Storytelling' RPGs which would fill the gap of slower RPGs where people write out paragraphs and all and the RPGs move like a book. That's the general idea there that I think separates them from the ordinary 'skit' done RPGs which just have the short sentences and all and a loose scene depiction. What Soush did is exactly the kind of genre I mean and if you look at it, it certainly looks different than 99 percent of the RPGs in the regular section. With their own areas, I think more of these RPGs would happen, and would do one myself too, and there does seem some interest. It's not to separate the RPGs based on 'this is crap' and 'this is cool' etc, because we all have opinions there. It is just to separate them on the sort of RPG being done, which is more of a creative writing thing that some people love to do but gets lost in the other stuff. Hope that makes more sense.

Hmmm well in all honesty, there are RP threads in there already which do follow the paragraph story layout. I don't like that idea dude, it sounds like having a section for long post RPs and a section for short post RPs and that IMO is pointless.

Ghetto
12-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Exactly my point, though I would be interested in knowing what genre Repliku is thinking of because if it is possible I will look into it. I want all the RPers to be happy, but the staff cannot allow everything.

I think he means slower paced more detailed RPs instead of the usual "Sora goes to hell liek we gotta help him get out liek omg" kind of RP with no backstory and no actual goal in sight.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 08:24 PM
I think he means slower paced more detailed RPs instead of the usual "Sora goes to hell liek we gotta help him get out liek omg" kind of RP with no backstory and no actual goal in sight.

XDDDDD I think I saw that once

Hmm I don't ike that idea though >.< whatever you spin it, it will be a division of ability =/

Ghetto
12-17-2007, 08:27 PM
XDDDDD I think I saw that once

Hmm I don't ike that idea though >.< whatever you spin it, it will be a division of ability =/

Actualy I see it as a division of style, not ability. Alot of the fast paced RPers with one and two line posts could do a good detailed post if they wanted to, but they just don't prefer that style of RPing.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 08:31 PM
Actualy I see it as a division of style, not ability. Alot of the fast paced RPers with one and two line posts could do a good detailed post if they wanted to, but they just don't prefer that style of RPing.

Hmmm thats a good point.

Though we want to encourage all RPers to put more effort in right? So if a new section is made specifically for more detailed RPs then wont it just mean that the normal section is left as crap? (generically speaking).

Also how would the RPs be then split? As in say someone created a detailed RP based on an anime, could that still go in the anime subsection? Or would it have to go into the detailed RP section? In that case, what is the point in having subsections?

Ghetto
12-17-2007, 08:42 PM
Hmmm thats a good point.

Though we want to encourage all RPers to put more effort in right? So if a new section is made specifically for more detailed RPs then wont it just mean that the normal section is left as crap? (generically speaking).

Also how would the RPs be then split? As in say someone created a detailed RP based on an anime, could that still go in the anime subsection? Or would it have to go into the detailed RP section? In that case, what is the point in having subsections?

You win, all those questions made my head hurt, though I'm sure Repliku will have a good answer.

Repliku
12-17-2007, 08:45 PM
Hmmm thats a good point.

Though we want to encourage all RPers to put more effort in right? So if a new section is made specifically for more detailed RPs then wont it just mean that the normal section is left as crap? (generically speaking).

Also how would the RPs be then split? As in say someone created a detailed RP based on an anime, could that still go in the anime subsection? Or would it have to go into the detailed RP section? In that case, what is the point in having subsections?

Well the genre point is that -any- RP that would do constructive 'creative writing' methods would fit there so yes, some anime RPGs if they have users willing to do that would fit in. It's just a more in depth sort of writing style incorporated in role playing with an active sort of Game Master type person who kicks out plots and all.

That is not to say the other section would be -crap- at all. It's just catering to different tastes in RP and might even get some of the people that disdain the RPG section to like it more because it is a sorely missed element I think. In simple it's just creative writing with a story line that takes more time to do and some of us seem more used to it than the ones that go on currently. So, by no means am I saying the other RPGs out there suck or anything, but this just gears to those who want more of a challenge and to put forth some creative writing, correct grammar and all, and to get 'in character' a bit more with other players and to interact where characters act more like where they are from and if they are canon sorts, well, they'd act more like they do in the games or anime or books they come from.

I think for the division issue, it would depend if it met those criteria and if people wanted it there or not. No one has to move such an RP from the 'anime' section if they didn't want to. However, this gives a chance to those of us who love to write and interact in a different sort of RP setting and the players would all match up to what the GM wanted to see, so the GM could auto say that something wouldn't clear and not have people thinking they are being snooty.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 08:56 PM
Well the genre point is that -any- RP that would do constructive 'creative writing' methods would fit there so yes, some anime RPGs if they have users willing to do that would fit in. It's just a more in depth sort of writing style incorporated in role playing with an active sort of Game Master type person who kicks out plots and all.

That is not to say the other section would be -crap- at all. It's just catering to different tastes in RP and might even get some of the people that disdain the RPG section to like it more because it is a sorely missed element I think. In simple it's just creative writing with a story line that takes more time to do and some of us seem more used to it than the ones that go on currently. So, by no means am I saying the other RPGs out there suck or anything, but this just gears to those who want more of a challenge and to put forth some creative writing, correct grammar and all, and to get 'in character' a bit more with other players and to interact where characters act more like where they are from and if they are canon sorts, well, they'd act more like they do in the games or anime or books they come from.

I think for the division issue, it would depend if it met those criteria and if people wanted it there or not. No one has to move such an RP from the 'anime' section if they didn't want to. However, this gives a chance to those of us who love to write and interact in a different sort of RP setting and the players would all match up to what the GM wanted to see, so the GM could auto say that something wouldn't clear and not have people thinking they are being snooty.

I can see where you are coming from, I really can, but I really really disagree with a subsection like that, for one thing whether it was meant or not, people would still be offended when their ideas aren't allowed, the good thing about the RP section is that it gives relative freedom with creativity and ideas. True it need developing and the RPers need encouraging to be more in depth, but there is a feeling of freedom that I do now want to deny.

IMO if people are serious about the RP they are in, they wont let it be lost amongst the threads, not only that but there is the subscribe button. The RPer could always subscribe to the specific threads and in that way they would never lose it amongst all the shorter post faster paced ones. I am all for encouraging more RPers and gaining interest from some of the more experienced members who feel the section doesn't cater to their needs, I just don't feel that a sub section for "creative writing" style RP will benefit the section as a whole. You are going to need to convince me more than this before I change my mind xD

At the moment all that jumps out at me is that it isn't solving the problem of those RPs that members keep complaining about, it just sweeps it under the rug so to speak.

Repliku
12-17-2007, 09:14 PM
I can see where you are coming from, I really can, but I really really disagree with a subsection like that, for one thing whether it was meant or not, people would still be offended when their ideas aren't allowed, the good thing about the RP section is that it gives relative freedom with creativity and ideas. True it need developing and the RPers need encouraging to be more in depth, but there is a feeling of freedom that I do now want to deny.

IMO if people are serious about the RP they are in, they wont let it be lost amongst the threads, not only that but there is the subscribe button. The RPer could always subscribe to the specific threads and in that way they would never lose it amongst all the shorter post faster paced ones. I am all for encouraging more RPers and gaining interest from some of the more experienced members who feel the section doesn't cater to their needs, I just don't feel that a sub section for "creative writing" style RP will benefit the section as a whole. You are going to need to convince me more than this before I change my mind xD

At the moment all that jumps out at me is that it isn't solving the problem of those RPs that members keep complaining about, it just sweeps it under the rug so to speak.

Well, who is actually going to get offended? It's not about ability but about style in here and some people love the short RPGs where they can post and do their thing and others don't. It seems to me more that we are neglecting a group of RPGrs because some might whine, when really there is no need to gripe about it. Maybe we could have a vote or something? Then if people find it offensive or not we'd know, and some others even in those RPGs might like something else to do too as a change of pace.

And I'm so trying to convince you so you change your mind. Don't make me use the puppy dog eyes!

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 09:19 PM
Well, who is actually going to get offended? It's not about ability but about style in here and some people love the short RPGs where they can post and do their thing and others don't. It seems to me more that we are neglecting a group of RPGrs because some might whine, when really there is no need to gripe about it. Maybe we could have a vote or something? Then if people find it offensive or not we'd know, and some others even in those RPGs might like something else to do too as a change of pace.

And I'm so trying to convince you so you change your mind. Don't make me use the puppy dog eyes!

Hold on, one thing, :P this talk of a new section has come around because of people whining and complaining, so isn't it a bit of a double standard to then say if those who were complained about whine it is nothing? XD

Hmm I meant offended more if say someone who isn't as capable wants to join one of these "longer more creative" RPs and obviously doesn't fit the requirements, I myself would be offended if I was told no xD.

Ok I can see that it would maybe be of benefit and I understand that it is about style, but now I am more concerned with neccessity, what reason would we (the staff) have to make a section for these styles of RP? When they could easily go with the others? For sure I see your point about them getting lost, but that is easily solved xD

Don't you dare! D:

Repliku
12-17-2007, 09:50 PM
Hold on, one thing, :P this talk of a new section has come around because of people whining and complaining, so isn't it a bit of a double standard to then say if those who were complained about whine it is nothing? XD

Hmm I meant offended more if say someone who isn't as capable wants to join one of these "longer more creative" RPs and obviously doesn't fit the requirements, I myself would be offended if I was told no xD.

Ok I can see that it would maybe be of benefit and I understand that it is about style, but now I am more concerned with neccessity, what reason would we (the staff) have to make a section for these styles of RP? When they could easily go with the others? For sure I see your point about them getting lost, but that is easily solved xD

Don't you dare! D:

Yeah, but didn't most people here say that the writing and poor grammar and the way things were done were kind of making them annoyed that there was nothing else? It would seem you could kill two birds with one stone making a section where people -could- do that and also those RPs could be easier found. Really, discretion on who joins would be up to the GM as it always is (topic maker) but the difference is just for classification of the type of RPG it is and so they can be in one place for people that would be more interested in those.

As I said, some others in the other RPGs might also like to try out something different, and if not, they'd still have their section. This would give them also an opportunity to do things because I would hope that all of them, despite how they write in the RPG section, do know how to do proper grammar and spelling for the most part. Those RPGs are meant to be fast and moving so they can do txt talk and all there, but they might sometime want to also try out the other option. I just am not seeing a reason for people to complain because as it stands, any topic maker can clear or tell someone no to joining an RPG, so that wouldn't change. It's just separating RPGs as in what is going to be slower paced and more story novel-like versus what goes on and people individually post to 20 times a day. Creative writers do like our outlets and we hardly fit into the majority of RPGs that already exist even though some of us, like me, have tried. It just goes by in a blur and is too much to keep up with.

The reason for sectioning it off is more for the style and so there will be just those types of RPGs in that sub-forum to help people peruse there and decide what kind of more creative writing RPG they'd want to be in. It's in no means meant to be offensive, but to broaden horizons and well, fit those of us who are long winded in somewhere because it looks very funny to have
<Sora> goz out & knokz on Riku's door. "Hai Riku!" in one post...leave off the quotations too.
<Riku> Riku heads out the door and scans around the area, pondering what he would do today, now that school was out. It had been hard to catch up with all he had missed in a year, but now things were going a bit easier and the demands from his parents to focus on just education had lessened their grip. He walked over to Sora's house and knocked on the door.

That's the difference I mean. It just doesn't fit that someone takes all that time and it is lost amidst it all. The work is there for creative writing and had they written a story it would have gone in the Creative Writing thread instead. This is why the call for the sub-forum. That way it's appreciated a bit more and well, people can get down and descriptive.

And puppy dog eyes might be deploying soon!

Rosey
12-17-2007, 09:53 PM
The one thing Im going to say about a new section.

There are going to be like....5-10 threads in it? :/ I dont think most people would commit to the new section.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 10:00 PM
Yeah, but didn't most people here say that the writing and poor grammar and the way things were done were kind of making them annoyed that there was nothing else? It would seem you could kill two birds with one stone making a section where people -could- do that and also those RPs could be easier found. Really, discretion on who joins would be up to the GM as it always is (topic maker) but the difference is just for classification of the type of RPG it is and so they can be in one place for people that would be more interested in those.

As I said, some others in the other RPGs might also like to try out something different, and if not, they'd still have their section. This would give them also an opportunity to do things because I would hope that all of them, despite how they write in the RPG section, do know how to do proper grammar and spelling for the most part. Those RPGs are meant to be fast and moving so they can do txt talk and all there, but they might sometime want to also try out the other option. I just am not seeing a reason for people to complain because as it stands, any topic maker can clear or tell someone no to joining an RPG, so that wouldn't change. It's just separating RPGs as in what is going to be slower paced and more story novel-like versus what goes on and people individually post to 20 times a day. Creative writers do like our outlets and we hardly fit into the majority of RPGs that already exist even though some of us, like me, have tried. It just goes by in a blur and is too much to keep up with.

The reason for sectioning it off is more for the style and so there will be just those types of RPGs in that sub-forum to help people peruse there and decide what kind of more creative writing RPG they'd want to be in. It's in no means meant to be offensive, but to broaden horizons and well, fit those of us who are long winded in somewhere because it looks very funny to have
<Sora> goz out & knokz on Riku's door. "Hai Riku!" in one post...leave off the quotations too.
<Riku> Riku heads out the door and scans around the area, pondering what he would do today, now that school was out. It had been hard to catch up with all he had missed in a year, but now things were going a bit easier and the demands from his parents to focus on just education had lessened their grip. He walked over to Sora's house and knocked on the door.

That's the difference I mean. It just doesn't fit that someone takes all that time and it is lost amidst it all. The work is there for creative writing and had they written a story it would have gone in the Creative Writing thread instead. This is why the call for the sub-forum. That way it's appreciated a bit more and well, people can get down and descriptive.

And puppy dog eyes might be deploying soon!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr damn you Repliku >.<

Ok, I will think about it -_- but if and this is only an IF the new section is added and agreed on by ALL staff, at the first sign of problems such as members being offensive or rude about each other it will be gone and those who wish for the more creative RPs can do what Soush did and make them in the general section.

Hmm now I want your honest opinion, do you really think it would get used that much? becasue we will not be making a new section for just 7 RPs like Rosey says, it would need to be used a lot to be granted its own sub section.

Don't make me blindfold you >:/

Jade Rhade
12-17-2007, 10:05 PM
The one thing Im going to say about a new section.

There are going to be like....5-10 threads in it? :/ I dont think most people would commit to the new section.

As soon as I get this damn paper done, I would. I know there are members out there who, lacking automatic respect and an almost "celebrity"-like status, won't even try to post an intelligent RP for the simple matter that those who respond don't care. It's happened to me; I spent a lot of time working on an RPG, only to log off to sleep, come back a few hours later, and find it lacking-any-coherent-posts and somehow it has been dragged so far away from its original premise that it was all but slaughtered. If you try to correct it, they just stamp off in a huff.

So, as seems to happen a lot, I agree with Repliku.

Repliku
12-17-2007, 10:46 PM
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr damn you Repliku >.<

Ok, I will think about it -_- but if and this is only an IF the new section is added and agreed on by ALL staff, at the first sign of problems such as members being offensive or rude about each other it will be gone and those who wish for the more creative RPs can do what Soush did and make them in the general section.

Hmm now I want your honest opinion, do you really think it would get used that much? becasue we will not be making a new section for just 7 RPs like Rosey says, it would need to be used a lot to be granted its own sub section.

Don't make me blindfold you >:/

Well, at first it may only have a few of them but I'm sure it would grow and if it didn't, you could always stop it and just put the RPGs in the general area again. I'm sure if Soush had the option of having the RP moved to the creative writing rpg area he'd probably take that option in a heart beat.

And I can't help it if I have cute puppy dog eyes. ^_^ and know how to use em.

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 10:48 PM
Well, at first it may only have a few of them but I'm sure it would grow and if it didn't, you could always stop it and just put the RPGs in the general area again. I'm sure if Soush had the option of having the RP moved to the creative writing rpg area he'd probably take that option in a heart beat.

And I can't help it if I have cute puppy dog eyes. ^_^ and know how to use em.

*Twitch*

Fine, I will ask about it, and look into it. You owe me! :|

Repliku
12-17-2007, 11:38 PM
*Twitch*

Fine, I will ask about it, and look into it. You owe me! :|

*gives cookie?* *tosses in a few cute hamsters, guinea pigs, bunnies, and some elves to take care of all the animals.*

Catch the Rain
12-17-2007, 11:41 PM
*gives cookie?* *tosses in a few cute hamsters, guinea pigs, bunnies, and some elves to take care of all the animals.*

8DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

why thank you

Soushirei
12-18-2007, 02:51 AM
I can see Repliku's point, though.

It's not meant to be elitist or offensive to the other RPers, it's just for organization. =\

I will acknowledge that in addressing the concern of para-rps being "pushed" down the page list and being lost, subscribing to these threads solves the issue entirely. However, another section would make this step easily omittable.

It might be small at first, but over-time, as members get drawn to it (whether it be the same people doing it over and over again, or some new recruits venture in), the section will increase.

Try to think of it long-term. It might have 5-10 threads in it, but months from now, do you really think it'll stay 5-10 threads if RPers who've stayed quiet until now finally have a place they feel they can RP in? My RP has received far more attention than I expected, and it's the first one of its kind, if I'm not mistaken.

Catch the Rain
12-18-2007, 10:37 AM
I can see Repliku's point, though.

It's not meant to be elitist or offensive to the other RPers, it's just for organization. =\

I will acknowledge that in addressing the concern of para-rps being "pushed" down the page list and being lost, subscribing to these threads solves the issue entirely. However, another section would make this step easily omittable.

It might be small at first, but over-time, as members get drawn to it (whether it be the same people doing it over and over again, or some new recruits venture in), the section will increase.

Try to think of it long-term. It might have 5-10 threads in it, but months from now, do you really think it'll stay 5-10 threads if RPers who've stayed quiet until now finally have a place they feel they can RP in? My RP has received far more attention than I expected, and it's the first one of its kind, if I'm not mistaken.


*Twitch*

Fine, I will ask about it, and look into it. You owe me! :|


XD I had already said I would look into it. So far it has gt support from staff so it is a good possibility.


Watch this space.