Our Generation

[The Doktor]

My brother and I have had countless conversations and debates on our generation. It seems our generation is gathered around themselves and what could be better for themselves rather than others.

What do you think?

[Nailpolish <3]

My brother and I have had countless conversations and debates on our generation. It seems our generation is gathered around themselves and what could be better for themselves rather than others.

What do you think?

Yeah. Kind of true. If your implying that we think about ourselves more than others.

in some cases, thats true. but then there are FEW people that do care about others other than their own needs. Like this kid I heard, was looking for The Wii, but it was sold out everywhere. But then, he got it, but he decided to give it to some needy children. Which is unbelievable. I think more people feel sorry for other people, but do not help them. I have to say I'm kind of like that, but not always.

[The Doktor]

Yeah. Kind of true. If your implying that we think about ourselves more than others.

in some cases, thats true. but then there are FEW people that do care about others other than their own needs. Like this kid I heard, was looking for The Wii, but it was sold out everywhere. But then, he got it, but he decided to give it to some needy children. Which is unbelievable. I think more people feel sorry for other people, but do not help them. I have to say I'm kind of like that, but not always.

Yeah. People pitty others, but do nothing about it. Most people (not saying everyone) seem to do what they think is best for themselves rather than others. They surround themselves with good things, and what they like and make fun of someone else for having something different.

My brother thinks he's different because he thinks he's helping me. What he does is tell me what HE does and expects me to do the same. DOES NOT WORK.

So we get into arguments. If I could just say one thing and be able to follow what I said easily, I'd be someone that reaches out to others. And you know what? That's what I'll do for this upcoming year. :/

[Nailpolish <3]

Yeah. People pitty others, but do nothing about it. Most people (not saying everyone) seem to do what they think is best for themselves rather than others. They surround themselves with good things, and what they like and make fun of someone else for having something different.

My brother thinks he's different because he thinks he's helping me. What he does is tell me what HE does and expects me to do the same. DOES NOT WORK.

So we get into arguments. If I could just say one thing and be able to follow what I said easily, I'd be someone that reaches out to others. And you know what? That's what I'll do for this upcoming year. :/

Thats good =]

Hmm, but some people are actually bystanders, but they don't want to help because they don't want to be treated the same way.

And my brother just tells me his generation is the best =/

[The Doktor]

Huh. Well, some people are so stupid, that they've realized what this generation is mostly surrounded by and try to show everyone how they are included in the generation's actions by being so retarded and stupid that you egotistically turn around and tell them to shut the **** up.

The generation is egotistical. That's another problem. :/

[Nailpolish <3]

Huh. Well, some people are so stupid, that they've realized what this generation is mostly surrounded by and try to show everyone how they are included in the generation's actions by being so retarded and stupid that you egotistically turn around and tell them to shut the **** up.

The generation is egotistical. That's another problem. :/

I've told a lot of people to stfu but not for the reasons you said. I say it because people try to demean someone.
And yes, our society is egotistical. Umm, there are a lot of phonies in the world. In my school, for instance. Some people follow others to be "cool" and its stupid.

Theres some people I hate, they hang out in a huge clique, thinking they are such amazing people. Its disgusting to see how they talk to some people

[The Doktor]

I've told a lot of people to stfu but not for the reasons you said. I say it because people try to demean someone.
And yes, our society is egotistical. Umm, there are a lot of phonies in the world. In my school, for instance. Some people follow others to be "cool" and its stupid.

Theres some people I hate, they hang out in a huge clique, thinking they are such amazing people. Its disgusting to see how they talk to some people

Oh man, don't even get me started on that. There is so much I have to say about the "Cool" subject. >.>

Yes, people get so rapped up in themselves and their egos that they don't really care about anyone else. If you ever notice me at school (this is just an example of something) I'm constantly talking to my friends about stuff. But when I meet someone new, I stop talking so much. It's not just because I'm shy, it's because I'm kinda evaluating them, to see if they are what most people are. I tell my friends about all kinds of things that we are even discussing now, just sow we can end up different than them!

Shew, that's a mouth full! xD

[Ghetto]

I have a few words to sum up our generation: Lazy. Greedy. Egotistical. Sloths.

[Nailpolish <3]

Oh man, don't even get me started on that. There is so much I have to say about the "Cool" subject. >.>

Yes, people get so rapped up in themselves and their egos that they don't really care about anyone else. If you ever notice me at school (this is just an example of something) I'm constantly talking to my friends about stuff. But when I meet someone new, I stop talking so much. It's not just because I'm shy, it's because I'm kinda evaluating them, to see if they are what most people are. I tell my friends about all kinds of things that we are even discussing now, just sow we can end up different than them!

Shew, that's a mouth full! xD

lol. yeah same. but some of the people I hang out with, I don't like that much, but i'm trying not to dump them, because that is such a hateful thing. But the reason I don't want to hang around with them is because first impressions decieve a lot of people.

Oh God, i'm so annoying in the halls, I always talk about things like that in class. Like politics and our generation. My teacher in gr. 8 told us all that we must be good people, and all these things that we are talking about right now.

[The Doktor]

lol. yeah same. but some of the people I hang out with, I don't like that much, but i'm trying not to dump them, because that is such a hateful thing. But the reason I don't want to hang around with them is because first impressions decieve a lot of people.

Oh God, i'm so annoying in the halls, I always talk about things like that in class. Like politics and our generation. My teacher in gr. 8 told us all that we must be good people, and all these things that we are talking about right now.

Yeah. I know, there are a bunch of cool people I know that just seem to hang around the wrong people....

I have a few words to sum up our generation: Lazy. Greedy. Egotistical. Sloths.

That is basically the sum of it all. I still like going into details, though. :/

[Mish]

I have a few words to sum up our generation: Lazy. Greedy. Egotistical. Sloths.
And this is different from any other generation.. how?

You're all saying that the generation of today sucks but have you experienced any other generation? No.

[Nailpolish <3]

I have a few words to sum up our generation: Lazy. Greedy. Egotistical. Sloths.

agreed. but lets add a few?

Obnoxious, Cold, Envious.

[EvilMan_89]

i really don't know. on one hand, when i look at the people in my generation (i think my generation is different from yours btw, i was born in the 80s) i really dont' know. some of them seem so obnoxious but then there are those good ones that try so hard to improve things. so i really don't know. but i think my generation is still too young to determine if they suck or not. i mean, according to other adults, they thot negatively about their generation when they were young too, so maybe this is something all generations go through?

[8730]

I agree that our generation is 'softer' than other generations, but that doesn't mean we are terrible. We are the product of the endeavours of our ancestors. They fought to make the world a better and safer place. now we don't have to worry about when our next meal will be or how we will pay for things. We have some of the best standards of living and so we take it for granted. We have grown up with this, so of course we are used to it. Our parents and grandparents trying to compare their lives to ours and saying that we are lazy and stupid and ignorant really doesn't work. It's not our fault if they made us this way.

Like when my Dad told me that the O levels he sat (the equivalent to the GCSEs I sat) were much harder than what I'm doing I felt very insulted. He was basically rubbishing everything I was doing because of something his generation did. A lot of the problems we face as a generation came from those before, mainly our parents. Like chavs and the other scum that give our generation such a bad name. It is their parents from the last generation that produced them.

[MARIExBRIARWOOD]

Hmm.. so I'm from a selfish generation? I've been babysitting for my brother the past two years so he can work and won't lose custody of his children to his ex wife. I don't call that selfish. I'm a 90s kid (Born in 1988).

I think the reason we may SEEM selfish is because we grew up differently than others. These days our parents can easily get food stamps, welfare checks, disability, social security checks, so its easier now to make do and have a little extra money on the side than what it was in past generations. So even the poorest of families can spoil themselves just an incy wincy bit.

Also, there is so much more violence in communities than ever before. Little kids can't even go for a walk around the block without the risk of being snatched up by some pedophile. So, because we were raised to be wary of danger and keep our nose out of other people's business we're selfish? I know I was allowed to run rampant through the neighborhood, but I would never EVER allow my own children to go out on their own, not until they were 13.

When I was 11 a group of 3 girls from a high school followed me home picking on me and threatening to hit/beat me. When I reached home I turned around, called them a bunch of b*****s, and hid in my house. They were knocking on the door for about 10 or 15 minutes before leaving. Why would a bunch of 16-18 year olds want to beat up on a little 11 year old kid? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE THESE DAYS?

I don't think that the nice people are very few or don't exist, I think that they are in hiding and afraid of the big bad world. I know I am.

So with all this new technology and guns and violence and corrupt cops or cops that don't even show up 'til 20 minutes later when you're either hurt or dead, its no wonder there are few people in the world that could care less about a stranger. I constantly try to be nice and help people, but people these days are so rude.

I had my two nephews, 3 and 7, and my niece who is 6 walking with me in a crowded mall and my littlest nephew was trying to run off on me. I lunged forward to grab him and my purse, not any part of my body, hit this prissy little teenager holding a drink. I didn't maker her spill her drink or anything and immediately I turned around and told her "I'm so sorry." And she gave me this disgusted look and said "S**t." Whereas at first I was concerned and sincerely wanted to make sure she was alright, after that I wanted to rip her face off and make her eat it. If somebody apologizes, which is very rare now, you don't treat them like that. It was an accident, and I was honestly sorry for hitting her, but it wasn't so bad or the end of the world.

I'm just saying can you blame us for being "selfish" when other people from other generations treat us this way? Can you blame us for being "selfish" when people from every and any generation could be running around with guns and violent, malicious thoughts running through their heads? Can you blame us for being "selfish" now that the government has programs for its people, and not as many people live in poverty with barely enough food to feed its family anymore?

All I'm saying is yeah, we may be selfish. We may not care as much about other people as we should, but did you ever try to sit down and figure out the reasons why?

[EvilMan_89]

I'm just saying can you blame us for being "selfish" when other people from other generations treat us this way? Can you blame us for being "selfish" when people from every and any generation could be running around with guns and violent, malicious thoughts running through their heads? Can you blame us for being "selfish" now that the government has programs for its people, and not as many people live in poverty with barely enough food to feed its family anymore?

All I'm saying is yeah, we may be selfish. We may not care as much about other people as we should, but did you ever try to sit down and figure out the reasons why?

that's still no excuse for being selfish in my opinion. i think our generation has a duty: the duty to let the hate end with us

[MARIExBRIARWOOD]

Then answer me this: How can we let the hate end with us when older generations and younger are working against us? How can hate end with us when there will always be a balance and struggle between good and evil? How can the hate end with us when it has been here long before we were born, and will be long after we are dead?

Not all is lost, we can strive to make the future better, but the hate won't end in our lifetime.

[EvilMan_89]

oh i also think we have another duty, this is gonna be SLIGHTLY immature so bear with me: i think we should eradicate AIDS from the human race. there's an easy way too, if you know you have AIDS, use protection! if everyone who had it used that, eventually the diease will go away. i know i would sure love to love in an era where no one had to worry about contracting STDs and be able to have "you know" with anyone. sorry, that was immature, but REALISTIC. i know we wont' be able to have it for ourselves, but we can certainly give that gift to our grand children!

Then answer me this: How can we let the hate end with us when older generations and younger are working against us? How can hate end with us when there will always be a balance and struggle between good and evil? How can the hate end with us when it has been here long before we were born, and will be long after we are dead?

Not all is lost, we can strive to make the future better, but the hate won't end in our lifetime.
first of all i dont' know what you mean by "older generations and younger working against us". but i think that if even one person chooses to rid themselves of hate, the world is still much better becuz of it.

[Catch the Rain]

Hmmm ok I am going to sound so harsh here :/


This..is the biggest pile of crap ever :/ our geneation is not selfish at all, think about it, it is our generation that is at war, it is our generation that are helping to look after the older generations (especially when America is going to be hit with a massive problem due to WW2 baby boomers reaching their pensions soon). It is our generation that is having to deal with the mess that the world has been given to us by our elders and it is our generation that is having to deal with the troublemakers and crime in the generations behind us.

Our generation is loked down on beause of a few individuals, well guess what? No generation is without its flaws and no generation is perfect, but for you guys to completely slam and drag our generation down, that is wrong IMO.

I was born in the 80's XD god that makes me feel old, but I class us as the same generation, and I think you guys need to open your eyes to the positive in our generation and stop just looking at the flaws, we have it drummed into us by the media that we are the worst :/ and that's not right.

No one is perfect but we are far from the screw ups that some posts in this thread would imply.

[EvilMan_89]

Hmmm ok I am going to sound so harsh here :/


This..is the biggest pile of crap ever :/ our geneation is not selfish at all, think about it, it is our generation that is at war, it is our generation that are helping to look after the older generations (especially when Alerica is going to be hit with a massive problem due to WW2 baby boomers reaching their pensions soon). It is our generation that is having to deal with the mess that the world has been given to us by our elders and it is our generation that is having to deal with the troublemakers and crime in the generations behind us.

Our generation is loked down on beause of a few individuals, well guess what? No generation is without its flaws and no generation is perfect, but for you guys to completely slam and drag our generation down, that is wrong IMO.

I was born in the 80's XD god that makes me feel old, but I class us as the same generation, and I think you guys need to open your eyes to the positive in our generation and stop just looking at the flaws, we have it drummed into us by the media that we are the worst :/ and that's not right.

No one is perfect but we are far from the screw ups that some posts in this thread would imply.

TRUE DAT. that's alot of old ppl we're gonna have to look after, lol

[MARIExBRIARWOOD]

I mean that the generations of our parents/grandparents, etc and the generation of our children to follow us will always be the same. And don't worry, I'm with you on this, I believe what you say is true, I'm just saying its not likely to happen within our lifetime. And what you say about STDs and AIDS is true. Anytime I break up with a boyfriend I get blood tests for pregnancy/STDs, even if we used a Trojan or whatever. Just because you're always better safe than sorry, but we all know not everyone is smart or responsible. A lot of the people with STDs don't even know they have it, because they are IRRESPONSIBLE and do not get tested regularly.

And despite the fact that there are no excuses for bing selfish, I think we are allowed to be because everyone that came before us messed up the world, not us. So why not be selfish and try to make our own lives better while everyone else messes theirs up? I'm not even going to try and save the world. I'm just going to raise my family better than I was raised and teach them compassion and understanding. I don't have the will or mental capacity to lead a world or nation, but perhaps my children will, or their children.

[EvilMan_89]

I mean that the generations of our parents/grandparents, etc and the generation of our children to follow us will always be the same. And don't worry, I'm with you on this, I believe what you say is true, I'm just saying its not likely to happen within our lifetime. And what you say about STDs and AIDS is true. Anytime I break up with a boyfriend I get blood tests for pregnancy/STDs, even if we used a Trojan or whatever. Just because you're always better safe than sorry, but we all know not everyone is smart or responsible. A lot of the people with STDs don't even know they have it, because they are IRRESPONSIBLE and do not get tested regularly.

And despite the fact that there are no excuses for bing selfish, I think we are allowed to be because everyone that came before us messed up the world, not us. So why not be selfish and try to make our own lives better while everyone else messes theirs up? I'm not even going to try and save the world. I'm just going to raise my family better than I was raised and teach them compassion and understanding. I don't have the will or mental capacity to lead a world or nation, but perhaps my children will, or their children.

yea, i know prolly wont' happen during our lifetimes but it would be cool to have tho. and just choosing to raise your family better than how you were raised is enough! i think that is a good attitude about it :)

[Catch the Rain]

Hold on, let me get this straight, so you are quite happy to sit back and do nothing and just let your children grow up in a world that you know is flawed? We do not have a right to be selfish and saying that well the other generations messed it up so why should we even both, I'm sorry but that is incredibly wrong to me.

Yes the world is messed up and yes the generations before us have left us with all their crap, but why should that mean that we give that same world to our children? Are you happy to have that resting on your children and grandchildren? Mommy couldn't be bothered to help the world so it is down to us. I don't want my children growing up in a world like that. How are things ever meant to improve if we just continue that way.

I said in my above post that our generation isn't selfish :/ if all of our generation think the way that you are thinking, well maybe I was wrong.

[8730]

I think the main problem is people aren't learning from the mistakes of the past. People are being brought up with all the bad habits of their parents and passing these on to their children, along with whatever else they've picked up along the way.

I just think our generation gets slagged for no good reason. It's time for people to wise up and remove or change the bad elements or at least acknowledge that the good elements exist.

[MARIExBRIARWOOD]

Hold on, let me get this straight, so you are quite happy to sit back and do nothing and just let your children grow up in a world that you know is flawed? We do not have a right to be selfish and saying that well the other generations messed it up so why should we even both, I'm sorry but that is incredibly wrong to me.

Yes the world is messed up and yes the generations before us have left us with all their crap, but why should that mean that we give that same world to our children? Are you happy to have that resting on your children and grandchildren? Mommy couldn't be bothered to help the world so it is down to us. I don't want my children growing up in a world like that. How are things ever meant to improve if we just continue that way.

I said in my above post that our generation isn't selfish :/ if all of our generation think the way that you are thinking, well maybe I was wrong.

True, but there are other things to it then just throwing my children out to the world. If you read any of my above posts, you would have realized that yes, I would fear for my children. But what can I do about it? I can't put every bad guy into jail ( I don't have good enough eyesight to become a cop, let alone a security guard). I can't make people stop lying and stop hurting each other. All these speakers and everything think they're changing lives? I've seen the effects in my old school: little to none. As said before, I'm not saying all is lost. There are people in the world that were meant to lead and make the world a better place, but I'm not one of them. I'm not smart enough, patient enough, or driven enough to do so. You put me on a podium and I would probably sound as illiterate as George W. Bush. I can however support those who could accurately represent me and what I stand for.

You think I would be a bad mother for what I said? Think of all the kids who are abandoned by their parents, or mistreated and hurt. Or even the parents who try to hide all the bad stuff from they're children's eyes and sugar coat everything and twist and turn the truth to make it less brutal. All these kids are shown are either the bad stuff, or how to ignore it. They aren't well balanced, they won't fair well in the world unless something extremely dramatic happens to them to help balance it all out. Trust me, I know so. I'm one of them.

So now I'm selfish and a bad person because all I want is to live a simple, honest life raising my children to be AWARE of the world both good and bad, to be educated and well balanced so they aren't left like a deer in the headlights in any dramatic situation? I'm not thinking straight or the right way because I want my next generation to be better than myself?

Edit** I can't make the world perfect for my children, but I can try and make them perfect enough to face an imperfect world.

[Catch the Rain]

True, but there are other things to it then just throwing my children out to the world. If you read any of my above posts, you would have realized that yes, I would fear for my children. But what can I do about it? I can't put every bad guy into jail ( I don't have good enough eyesight to become a cop, let alone a security guard). I can't make people stop lying and stop hurting each other. All these speakers and everything think they're changing lives? I've seen the effects in my old school: little to none. As said before, I'm not saying all is lost. There are people in the world that were meant to lead and make the world a better place, but I'm not one of them. I'm not smart enough, patient enough, or driven enough to do so. You put me on a podium and I would probably sound as illiterate as George W. Bush. I can however support those who could accurately represent me and what I stand for.

You think I would be a bad mother for what I said? Think of all the kids who are abandoned by their parents, or mistreated and hurt. Or even the parents who try to hide all the bad stuff from they're children's eyes and sugar coat everything and twist and turn the truth to make it less brutal. All these kids are shown are either the bad stuff, or how to ignore it. They aren't well balanced, they won't fair well in the world unless something extremely dramatic happens to them to help balance it all out. Trust me, I know so. I'm one of them.

So now I'm selfish and a bad person because all I want is to live a simple, honest life raising my children to be AWARE of the world both good and bad, to be educated and well balanced so they aren't left like a deer in the headlights in any dramatic situation? I'm not thinking straight or the right way because I want my next generation to be better than myself?

Firstly I would ask that you don't put words in my mouth and I am very serious about that. There is no RIGHT way to think, just different ways, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I am saying you are wrong.

Secondly, I resent that you imply I havn't read the rest of the thread xD I am allowed to have my opinion and just because it doesn't match what you say doesn't mean I havn't read your earlier posts.

I agree that giving a sugared truth is wrong, children should be taught to see the world for what it really is, I think the parents who lie and shelter their children are in the wrong, but there is a difference in preparing your children and leaving the world a mess for them.

Ok so you say you don't have the strength or the drive to make a difference, that's fine that's your choice and your feelings, and for sure we cannot lock up every bad guy and stop every bad thing, but if everyone was to think that there was nothing they could do, then the world would never change =/ I am not meaning to insult your character or your opinions, I just disagree with them.

By all means prepare your children, but don't just carry on making the world a mess, hell even recycling can help you know, and small changes like that cost nothing but can save a lot.

xD it doesn't take a lot to make a difference, but please don't use the excuse that because past generations did that, that it makes it alright for us, because that wont help anyone. How can we set an example to the future if we only carry on the patterns of the past?

[MARIExBRIARWOOD]

Thanks for pointing that out. Sorry if I put words in your mouth, I really wasn't trying to!

See now we're on the same page. I wasn't saying that I'm going to cower in my home and not even do the small things that often matter. I'm not saying its not my problem, either. I'm quite the weird one because while I can sit here and say, well I have a reason to be selfish and I blame you, you, and you, I also will not sit here and do nothing just because of that. Yeah my parents sucked hardcore, but that doesn't give me the right to go out and mess everything up for myself and those effected by my choices.

And the reason I stand so strong by raising children the right way is because if more people cared enough and took the time to teach their kids all the horrible and wonderful things life has to offer, and taught them how to be more compassionate and forgiving of one another, the future would be so amazingly awesome. Thats why I got a little defensive there, CtR ^^;;

But any who.. I think we got maybe a little off track there? This isn't about the next or past generations, or even about myself, its about OUR generation.. which is hard to pinpoint and recognize since there are a few of them mingling together in this forum. I consider someone to be in my generation if we are four years of age or less apart, I don't know exactly what an OFFICIAL generation time line looks like but I think its ten years. Kind of hard to think of someone 29 being in the same generation as me, though.

[Catch the Rain]

Thanks for pointing that out. Sorry if I put words in your mouth, I really wasn't trying to!

See now we're on the same page. I wasn't saying that I'm going to cower in my home and not even do the small things that often matter. I'm not saying its not my problem, either. I'm quite the weird one because while I can sit here and say, well I have a reason to be selfish and I blame you, you, and you, I also will not sit here and do nothing just because of that. Yeah my parents sucked hardcore, but that doesn't give me the right to go out and mess everything up for myself and those effected by my choices.

And the reason I stand so strong by raising children the right way is because if more people cared enough and took the time to teach their kids all the horrible and wonderful things life has to offer, and taught them how to be more compassionate and forgiving of one another, the future would be so amazingly awesome. Thats why I got a little defensive there, CtR ^^;;

But any who.. I think we got maybe a little off track there? This isn't about the next or past generations, or even about myself, its about OUR generation.. which is hard to pinpoint and recognize since there are a few of them mingling together in this forum. I consider someone to be in my generation if we are four years of age or less apart, I don't know exactly what an OFFICIAL generation time line looks like...

Aye its alright xD

I am very defensive where children are concerned because I fully agree with you, that they are not raised right and it isn't right how a lot are treated, so I appologise for getting so defensive too o_o;

xD my childhood wasn't the easiest either, but I try to see past that and look at whats ahead of me now instead of being trapped by my past :) it can be hard, but trust me it is so much nicer.

XD lmao yeah we did get off track a little bit, but hey that's what debate is all about. As for our generation I thinkwe have yet to fully realise our true potential, our generation is only just making an impact, and sure there are negative aspects, but there is also so much good =)

[Blademaster Mai'kel]

Not to randomly burst in with an opinion, but I agree that this generation is a bunch of sloth-infested retards. I'll admit, I'm a total slob. All I do is sit on my ***, play soccer occasionally, go here, listen to music, etc. I feel that the way I am is because of how I'm being raised. My parents and I don't get along very well, and they always tell me to go outside, but I don't, because I fail to see any enjoyment in it. I just cannot agree with my parents.

[uglynameless]

all in all, i don't really think so. Every generation's predecessors think that the new generation is going south and that leads some of the new generation to believe that but we really are not that different. "That" is a key word there because i think there is a small portion that is but just not much.

[Dreadnought]

Well it does kinda stink... I mean jocks have always been around but there are the groups that
fade with the generation... Are generations temporary group stinks...
I last generation had meditating hippies and before that they had the happy-go-lucky flower children...
What do we have? Emos..... Wimpy, selfish, crazy emos..... I mean its not everyone thats selfish
its just a few people.... television makes it seem that everybody would kill you for loose change...

[Crumpet]

My brother and I have had countless conversations and debates on our generation. It seems our generation is gathered around themselves and what could be better for themselves rather than others.

What do you think?

I actually agree - some of us are also thinking aboutthe present and not the future
I mean teens at partys
kids dressing up like (naughty word)
kids actually know about (the naughty s word)
its messed up

[MARIExBRIARWOOD]

I actually agree - some of us are also thinking aboutthe present and not the future
I mean teens at partys
kids dressing up like (naughty word)
kids actually know about (the naughty s word)
its messed up

True, but I think the reason for this is because its aired all over the TV, all over the news. Movies played where people sit around and do drugs, have s** at young ages. Honestly you see a lot about it on the Lifetime channel... I used to watch those movies on there all the time. Its a hard mesh up of how to raise kids.

Kids are aware of all this stuff because either parents talk about it, or they see it on TV. Its hard to balance. You never know when a child is old enough to discuss these things with anymore. They see it on TV, they want to try it, think its cool or whatever. You think if you ignore it and block it off of the TV, you kids will be safe. What if your children encounter another minor who has tried/done things? They wouldn't know much about it, think its okay, go off and do it and either screw up their whole life or get themselves killed out something.

Parenting is increasingly hard in these times with the TV and the computer and how commercial the holidays and birthdays and everything are now, its hard not to spoil a child to death. There are so many different factors to why we are the way we are, but the problem and question now is: What are we going to do about it?

[8730]

I also think the fact that children are expected to grow up so fast these days couldn't be helping. Also, parents tend to be over-protective or just couldn't care less (I can see that may be a gross over-simplification). My parents for example were quite over-protective but I have to admit there was also the aspect of my laziness or at least my dislike of playing outside after a certain age. Technological advances also need to be taken into account. Kids don't have to go outside or actually interact with people to be entertained anymore, and it is certainly taking its toll.

Also, children are more attuned to what is going on in the world. I for one watch the news as much as possible. On the point of the external environment (as opposed to the environment experienced inside the home) it is now more dangerous to go outside, or at least the perceived threat is greater. With all of the media hype over paedophiles and stabbings and gun crime many parents don't want their children leaving the garden if even the house. The media brings the threats of the world to your living room and local community x]

[EvilMan_89]

the only reason i think kids are more snotty these days is becuz of these shi**y parents who think their kid can do no wrong

[Crumpet]

i believe its the last generations fault that ours is so selfish and childish, the parents are giving them what they want and that's what they expect.. I mean how are you going to get through life when youre given everything.. and what happens when the source dies, then what will you do

[Darkandroid]

I guess the Media has had a big impact, people are generally more aware. Generation after generation tend to share the same problems, of course each one has some differences, for some it could be war, or whatever. We probably do alot of things our parents didn't without realising, of course they won't tell you that maybe at least until your an adult. XD

Even 30 years ago every teenager was sex mad. It's probably increased a bit over the years but it's natural for teenagers to try and act older then they are and try and grow up older.

Though increased welfare could of caused some to be more selfish, in our grandparents generation there was war which caused rationalisation. And with the advances in technology which is moving so fast people demand more. But also more people are having less kids, maybe 1 and not the average of 2, so the kid won't know how to share because they never had brothers or sisters to know about sharing I have a step sister who was like that.

[sora roxas60]

I agree with Evil Man. I should know because I grew up in East Los Angeles. So, I've seen my fair share of drugs, alcohol, gangs, and violence. It all goes back to the parents. I always wonder why I turned out differently, though... I guess it's a matter of personality in some sense

[EvilMan_89]

i do think my generation has potential but then again, this generation has broken the record for the number of school shootings so there's defintely something wrong.

[khsuperfan]

My opinion is that our generation is crumbling. There are 2 many brats and people in debt, its terrible. And all these kids have videogames at tbe age of 4. i got my first vid. game when i was like 10, or 11!!!!!! Our generation is becoming the dumbest generation ever. welcome back depresion numero dos!!!!!

[DPWolf]

My opinion is that our generation is crumbling. There are 2 many brats and people in debt, its terrible. And all these kids have videogames at tbe age of 4. i got my first vid. game when i was like 10, or 11!!!!!! Our generation is becoming the dumbest generation ever. welcome back depresion numero dos!!!!!

I don't think it's our generation, actually. Sure, we're definately going to have some problems, but WE are not responsible for the housing crisis that's going on, as we are NOT in charge of banks and mortgage (...sp?). And people in our generation aren't the only ones in debt.

All these kids? God, how old are you, 40? =\
GET OFF MY LAWN. D<

What does video games have anything to do with this? I got my first game when I was two (granted, I really didn't know what I was doing), but I'm still a normal person. In fact, a lot of the people I know and are friends with have played video games from a young age, and we have a lot of fun talking about them.
Video games don't make people dumber. People getting obsessed with games and totally disregarding all responsibility does.

To many brats? Not the kid's fault, actually. It's how parents teach children. We're not like machines that are programmed to act a certain way. Just like how we grow up with whatever beliefs we have, behavior is a learned thing.
You get down on your hands and knees for a kid, they walk all over you and become a spoiled brat.

A dumb generation, eh? Well, I'll relay that to my friend, who's currently in the #7 public highschool in America. And would a dumb generation be able to come up with some of the things we have? Should I take pictures of the things I've built and show you how "dumb" people are?
...Then again, maybe there are some dumb people out there. Like yourself. :3

By economic standards, we're probably not going to be in a depression again. A recession, perhaps, but not a full-scale, 1929 depression. America has advanced from 1945, believe it or not.

[khsuperfan]

I don't think it's our generation, actually. Sure, we're definately going to have some problems, but WE are not responsible for the housing crisis that's going on, as we are NOT in charge of banks and mortgage (...sp?). And people in our generation aren't the only ones in debt.

All these kids? God, how old are you, 40? =\
GET OFF MY LAWN. D<

What does video games have anything to do with this? I got my first game when I was two (granted, I really didn't know what I was doing), but I'm still a normal person. In fact, a lot of the people I know and are friends with have played video games from a young age, and we have a lot of fun talking about them.
Video games don't make people dumber. People getting obsessed with games and totally disregarding all responsibility does.

To many brats? Not the kid's fault, actually. It's how parents teach children. We're not like machines that are programmed to act a certain way. Just like how we grow up with whatever beliefs we have, behavior is a learned thing.
You get down on your hands and knees for a kid, they walk all over you and become a spoiled brat.

A dumb generation, eh? Well, I'll relay that to my friend, who's currently in the #7 public highschool in America. And would a dumb generation be able to come up with some of the things we have? Should I take pictures of the things I've built and show you how "dumb" people are?
...Then again, maybe there are some dumb people out there. Like yourself. :3

By economic standards, we're probably not going to be in a depression again. A recession, perhaps, but not a full-scale, 1929 depression. America has advanced from 1945, believe it or not.Of course it ain't the kids fault, its also really bad parenting. First, no, i ain't 40, i'm 15. Second, little kids shouldn't have vid. games due to the fact that 85%-90% grow up to be dumb (I guess u'r in the 10-15% that came out ok).
Thats my opinion.

[Cin]

Can you tell me where you got that statistic, please?

[DPWolf]

Of course it ain't the kids fault, its also really bad parenting. First, no, i ain't 40, i'm 15. Second, little kids shouldn't have vid. games due to the fact that 85%-90% grow up to be dumb (I guess u'r in the 10-15% that came out ok).
Thats my opinion.
Explain why all the people I know have had games since they were very young and they're at the top of their class.

And for the love of God, you're in the debate section; try to use better grammar...
Can you tell me where you got that statistic, please?

If he says Wikipedia, can we beat him with something?

[Advent]

My brother and I have had countless conversations and debates on our generation. It seems our generation is gathered around themselves and what could be better for themselves rather than others.

What do you think?

There's definitely a lot of greed in this generation, but there's also a lot of generosity. The media is always focusing on philanthropists, and this focus makes generosity the status quo.

[Darkwatch]

That sounds rather selfish to say that. Every generation has essentially been the same because after all, it's just a mix of tons of different people with the same personal interests over the course of a short time period.

I don't feel ours is any different than the others. It is only different in the subject that ours has technology that is much more advanced than what previous generations have had. That's it. Otherwise we are no different.

As a result, being so spoiled we have become MORE lazy, greedy, etc., than past generations. It's very myopic to just simply state "our generation is totally selfish and self-propelled."

[8730]

I believe it is complete unfair and, well, impossible to compare generations and pass judgements on them. We live in completely different times to the previous generations and as a result our society and its structure will be different.

Back in post-war times people may have been less selfish, healthier and more polite/friendly. They had just come out of a war, they had to be these things as they didn't really have a choice. Fighting amongst themselves would do nothing for the war effort. Also, they were healthy because they didn't have TV or computers. All they had was playing sports and going outside. They also had their food rationed so they couldn't overeat.

This argument is like all "What if.........?" questions, they are impossible to work because the situations are completely different.

[EvilMan_89]

That sounds rather selfish to say that. Every generation has essentially been the same because after all, it's just a mix of tons of different people with the same personal interests over the course of a short time period.

I don't feel ours is any different than the others. It is only different in the subject that ours has technology that is much more advanced than what previous generations have had. That's it. Otherwise we are no different.

As a result, being so spoiled we have become MORE lazy, greedy, etc., than past generations. It's very myopic to just simply state "our generation is totally selfish and self-propelled."

VERY TRUE. our generation really isn't so different. every generation has mindless killing and the really good ppl. the mindless killing back then would be like the Holocaust but in America, it woudl be those school shootings that keep happening.

[Repliku]

There is no generation around that doesn't have its problem people in it. This is why people of other generations can always pick apart one generation and say this and that about it. They look at all the bad people in it and it's a stereotype and prejudice just as saying how do black people act or women etc.

There are faults in each generation and idiots, but we also need to see the good people of each generation too. We can look around us and see in our own generation problem people and we can also see in older generations how screwed up some people are. It pretty much isn't right when people do choose to class others by their generation. Also, people who try to use 'entertainment' changes as reasons why generations differ and are of lesser quality have some issues.

Some faults are caused by the older generations, sure, but each person in the end is responsible for him/her. There is only so much blame that can go on continuously and there is a point where each person should stand up and say he/she is 'that way' because he/she chooses to be so. That's what being an adult is really about. I was abused as a kid. I'm not an abuser as an adult as a result. So, we all in the end have our slackers, thieves, those who are greedy and stomp on others to get what they want, whiners and moaners, etc. We also all have our good people that we can read of in history, see in our family pasts and currently 'we' can make a difference too in not choosing to be rotten. If we have to take the bad of any generation and accept it, it's probably also wise to take the good people too and also the hefty amount of people just trying to get by regardless of how old they are.

[EvilMan_89]

i agree that we have good and bad ppl. some ppl raise their kids very well but they still find a way to be screwed up. and some ppl have such a dark past but still turn out very well. tho sometimes i AM disappointed in how some adults have turned out and how they raise their children, that's probably a source of bad people.

[Chevalier]

well,Repliku says it all, again with a long paragraph, its always so long, but i always read it,because its enlightening

but in my opinion, people are people, just that some are kinder, some are wiser and can see from a better point, and well, some never were shown kindness, but they turn out to be good people and vice-versa,

my point is

its the circumstances and not the generation itself