education

[hahannuh]

how come we don't learn what's going on in the world at school? honestly, i have no clue why we are in a war. also, i don't even understand anything about our government. like taxes, etc. maybe i'm dumb or maybe we're supposed to learn this by ourselves, but i think that our highschools aren't teaching us anything, rather they are training us to live in a capitalist world. to learn stuff and get a job, don't be different, don't be unique, just be quiet and work. shouldn't we be learning about the real stuff in this world, too? because one day we are all going to face the real world.



p.s. my last post FOR SURE ;D. see you in a week ya'll.

[ЯзJзct.çom]

Yeah,they should teach us about stuff we really need to know....not like math were not gonna use....

[Roxasvsriku]

My History teacher is straight forward, but my other teachers are full of **** -_-

[Budabuda]

I agree, my teachers are full of ****, i will never have to prove that line WXV is congruent to WXC

[♥ M e w I c h i g o ♥]

yeah, my teachers arent really teaching us stuff thats important (except for my spanish and math teacher)
my science teacher is literally obsessed with cells. its literally all we learn about
and i think we should learn about things well really use, but were all just learning to be people w/o dreams, anything to say, and never gonna know about the real world
they expect us to either be who they want us to be or learn on our own.....

[Darkandroid]

Teachers are just doing their job, really it's what is the is being taught is not preparing us for the future. Getting good grades doesn't always mean a good job, you may have the brains but do you have the right personality etc etc. All schools do is improve your litercity and book smarts. But they need to realise there are more ways of learning and different types of intelligence.

Like the school/college I go to, they are doing the normal subjects, but also more real life subjects towards certain job areas etc. But the main focus is going onto further education and university, but that is not for everyone, and they need to do more into going into the world of work.

[Cin]

Schools don't teach you politics, because schools aren't supposed to choose sides. By teaching you 1 point of you and not ALL of them, then they'd be sued by others who opposed their views.

Also, teachers are just trying to do their jobs. Their jobs are to get you ready for careers, as well as let you develop in a social setting. To be honest, you ARE supposed to learn about stuff like that on your own. Some lessons cannot be taught by anyone but yourself, and the quicker kids realize that the faster they'll grow to be succesful.

You shouldn't blame others for your own shortcomings, like blaming a school for not teaching you politics. If you want to learn about them then look it up. You're able to leave and go home everyday from school to persue your own interests. If schools didn't care about your personailty, or who you truly are, then they'd keep a leesh on you 24/7 and not allow you to seek out your own goals.

...what was I talking about?

[Sorax]

I like what Cin said, let's go with her idea.

[Cin]

...I'm a guy...XD...>.>

But it's true, anyone who says that schools are teaching us wrong should stop complaining about it and start filling int he gaps. If you wan tto learna bout something that school isn't teaching you, teach yourself...^^

[Samurai]

I think we should be able to quit school after 6th grade. The rest is just teaching you stuff if you were serious about the subject. If you were, you should just keep going to school.

I can't think of a job where you would have to find out how many times a wheel, with a 5cm circumference, would spin down a 3 meter hill.

[Darkandroid]

I think we should be able to quit school after 6th grade. The rest is just teaching you stuff if you were serious about the subject. If you were, you should just keep going to school.

I can't think of a job where you would have to find out how many times a wheel, with a 5cm circumference, would spin down a 3 meter hill.

Your just looking at maths, and a 6th Grade education will get you no where in life, my skills now compared to then are far better, you may not realise it but it does help, helps you think more logically etc etc.

[Darkwatch]

how come we don't learn what's going on in the world at school? honestly, i have no clue why we are in a war. also, i don't even understand anything about our government. like taxes, etc. maybe i'm dumb or maybe we're supposed to learn this by ourselves, but i think that our highschools aren't teaching us anything, rather they are training us to live in a capitalist world. to learn stuff and get a job, don't be different, don't be unique, just be quiet and work. shouldn't we be learning about the real stuff in this world, too? because one day we are all going to face the real world.



p.s. my last post FOR SURE ;D. see you in a week ya'll.They do have things in schools that teach you these things. It's a class called "U.S. Government", or at least that's what they call it here.

And if you don't know, then study it up. And you do have plenty of opportunity. The whole idea is to find what you want to do, and exceed in it. :3

[Cin]

They do have things in schools that teach you these things. It's a class called "U.S. Government", or at least that's what they call it here.

And if you don't know, then study it up. And you do have plenty of opportunity. The whole idea is to find what you want to do, and exceed in it. :3

To extend Darky's thoughts, school is just a life before a life. They are teaching you lots of things, and at least TRYING to prepare you for the outside world. However, they're also trying to teach you a number of different subjects, a melting pot if you will, so you can figure out what you like the most and go after it.

[EvilMan_89]

how come we don't learn what's going on in the world at school? honestly, i have no clue why we are in a war. also, i don't even understand anything about our government. like taxes, etc. maybe i'm dumb or maybe we're supposed to learn this by ourselves, but i think that our highschools aren't teaching us anything, rather they are training us to live in a capitalist world. to learn stuff and get a job, don't be different, don't be unique, just be quiet and work. shouldn't we be learning about the real stuff in this world, too? because one day we are all going to face the real world.



p.s. my last post FOR SURE ;D. see you in a week ya'll.

ok fine. when ur trying to be different. i'll be making money

[Cin]

Evilman, it takes more then booksmarts to excel in life. You do in fact need outside knowledge, which is indeed something that schools are not teaching. She has a point, and so do you, but it's not like she's saying that she'll drop out of school

Uniquness, especially in a school setting can shape a future more then anything else. Even school drop outs have gone on to lead normal and succesful lives. I'm not saying it's the best option, but I'm saying uniqness is a great qaulity to strive for.

[shadowjak]

First off, anyone who says you won't need anything you learn in school is an idiot. Your not going to use more than half of the things you learn anywhere, the point of school is to know your capable of learning. As Cin said, political matters are thins you learn yourself, much like what you want to do with your life. You can't be taught these things, you have to listen to others, and decide for yourself.

[Budabuda]

Evilman, it takes more then booksmarts to excel in life. You do in fact need outside knowledge, which is indeed something that schools are not teaching. She has a point, and so do you, but it's not like she's saying that she'll drop out of school

Uniquness, especially in a school setting can shape a future more then anything else. Even school drop outs have gone on to lead normal and succesful lives. I'm not saying it's the best option, but I'm saying uniqness is a great qaulity to strive for.


shes right, a bum on the street could become richer than bill gates if he tried hard enough. all he has to do to improve his life style is win the lottory or start as a janator and work his way up

[hahannuh]

haha i love how some people think that cin's a girl.


anyways, thanks cin for clarifying that i'm not dumb enough to drop out of school. also, i understand that we should go learn it somewhere else and I have tried. Unfortunately, when I pick up the newspaper or look through Times, I don't have a clue who and what these articles are about. I've asked my parents but they don't really try to explain it. I don't know what I can turn to that would help me.

[Cin]

You could always try the internet, they have websites about EVERYTHING. I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for...^^

Oh...btw...Me = Guy

[EvilMan_89]

haha i love how some people think that cin's a girl.


anyways, thanks cin for clarifying that i'm not dumb enough to drop out of school. also, i understand that we should go learn it somewhere else and I have tried. Unfortunately, when I pick up the newspaper or look through Times, I don't have a clue who and what these articles are about. I've asked my parents but they don't really try to explain it. I don't know what I can turn to that would help me.

well.....that's not really important. u pretty much just need to know enough to work and get a job etc. but i see ur point, i haven't used anything i learned past the 10th grade in the real world, not once.

[Samurai]

Your just looking at maths, and a 6th Grade education will get you no where in life, my skills now compared to then are far better, you may not realise it but it does help, helps you think more logically etc etc.

Ok, what would you say if I said........

9th grade?

[Darkandroid]

Ok, what would you say if I said........

9th grade?

Nope, not in this world anymore, people are expecting more from employees these days, people who drop out of school now will get nowhere when compared to 30 years ago.

[DarknessKingdom]

True. What is the point of dropping out of school like in Year 9 though?

Wouldn't one rather prefer to go all the way to Year 12, and then go to college? I mean, it's my prefered choice of how my education is going to be like.

Because if you do stop school at Year 9, you'll have a big disadvantage for your future career or job.

[~tReAh867~]

i understand both sides of the argument. i am a senior in high school and am planning to major in graphic design and minor in creative writing. this means that math will have very little to offer me in my future career. but schools teach students this to make them well-rounded. not all high school seniors know what they want to do, so schools provide them with enough info so that they can choose from many different subjects, even if they dont go to college.

still, my government economics teacher shared an article with the class the other day. its was written by a college professor who said that the educations system is purposefully keeping their people ignorant because this makes then easier to manipulate by the government. think about it, if you have a group of intelligent scholars and you present them with bogus government plans, theyll knock it all to he**. but if you have a group of ignorant people and the gov does the same, they wont know what to think about it and go right along with the gov. this does not mean that teachers are to blame, but the school stystems may be.

also, schools set a very poor example of expectations and responsibility. even at high school you are constantly monitored if you skip, or do not do your hw, or fall asleep in class. most colleges will not give you in school suspension or detention if you do this. theyll just let you fail the class. its the same with work places. theyll fire you. students are too monitored and should be encouraged to find their own motivation and responsibility.

i think one of the most faulty courses in school is history. every year you learn the same things with a little more added info. ive only studied the vietnam war once, and ive yet to study almost anything beyond that point. government economics is a helpful class, but its taught in a very basic way. unless you are lucky to have an honest and good teacher, you only learn the rules and laws of gov, and not the corruption and disputes of gov.

also, my parents went to school in argentina and there they say they learned history about the entire world, not just their country and the main european countries (and the other "main" countries like russia). they learned geography of other countries and this really helps students to grasp more that they live in a world of many different peoples and cultues, something my US education has never done.

i also agree that the education system does not prepare students for careers. its teaches them the information needed, but not the methods. on top of that, many school encourage students to persue "quality" careers like medicine and law, and do very little to support art, theater, or less "quality" careers. students are given the wrong impression. they think that you have to be a straight a student and attend the best colleges so that you can go out into the world and get a job behind a cubicle to start earning those big bucks. students are not taught that even those who drop out of school, with the right motivation, can make it big.

anyways, as much as i rant about the issues, school has helped me. ive watched myself grow as an artist and writer. science has helped spark my mind and understand more about the world i live in and even about my own body. even though i am not a big fan of math, i find myself understanding reasoning and logic better. so while the system undoubtedly has many faults that could easily be altered, it has still helped me become the educated person i am today.

sorry for the long response.... :o

[Axel]

Zomg, poor CIn. Everyone's calling him a girl.

On topic: My old history teacher taught us american history but at the same time we learned current events. Each day we would learn the news and he would explain us all this stuff and we learned quite a lot. Especially cuz he was an uber cool teacher.
I guess it's up to the teachers.

[Sora_Riku_masters]

Why Are We Talking About School Its Summer Vacation

[Blademaster Mai'kel]

My teachers aren't like that. They tell us stuff we actually need to know (like how the government works).

[Roxas is Hot]

In my eyes, the teachers don't care on how well you get educated, it all depends on the $$MULAH$$

Or at least that's what it's like at my school. I barely learned a single thing, yet I'm sure the teachers got their bonus check.