View Full Version : The Monster In Secret Ending!!!
Marluxia XI
02-19-2007, 04:22 AM
Has anybody noticed that the giant dragon-like monster in the secret ending is actually the one you fought before the final battle with Xemnas? If so, tell me your theories, but you may need to look closely at the secret ending.
I got a private message indicating that the weapons of the org. members are parts of the monster. Thank you Strife531.
Strife531
02-19-2007, 04:58 AM
It's about time some else noticed, forgot to post that, glad you did though. Yeah, it is the monster you faced at the end, point being that KHIII takes place in the future (although there was an interview w/ Namura where he vaguely stated w/out giving anything away that the people in armor are from the past and future :/ if that makes any sense).
So how did that monster end up wherever the secret ending takes place? Perhaps that is all thats left of the World That Never Was...?
Did you notice though that when the armored character steps off, the monster does that dematerializing type thing that is featured in the intro to KHII (!) :0. I was thinking that the whole dematerializing thing was a theme or something. In the intro, I figured that it signified that those things were forgotten. Maybe the monster becomes a lost memory or something...? :/
This needs some more peoples' thoughts.
Marluxia XI
02-19-2007, 10:25 AM
Thats right. But on the dragon there was vexens sheild xigbars gun larxenes claws and even more. Thanks for posting in one of my theories Strife531
VideoGameNerd246
02-20-2007, 02:43 AM
Wowza!:eek: I thought I was the only one in these whole damn forums who noticed that! Anywho, I think it was a monster heartless that was sent to kill the chaser(s), but was killed without much effort.
Strife531
02-20-2007, 05:07 AM
Ligitimate addition to the theory VideoGameNerd246, when the armored knight steps off of the dragon-thing it looks like he just wooped its ***... ut it would be unlikely considering it was part of the final battle...and what Marluxia XI noted (organization XIII weapons around it)
And by the way :O, wow, didn't notice the weapons Marluxia XI, I'll have to check that again,cool, good eyes!
In addition, in the final battle, facing Xemnas, when he's on the dragon, he is also armored(!) - just like (or strikingly similar to) those in the secret video(!). Dunno if you caught that or it just slipped your mind maybe. I noticed this when watching the video winner on the site (by the way nice work Tom D. :D). Maybe Namura was alluding towards something...?
Any connection do you think...Marluxia XI...VideoGameNerd246...?
Marluxia XI
02-20-2007, 05:37 AM
hey dudes one question more. The monster.... it was disintegrating into sand when the chaser was on it didnt it? so maybe in that screenshot of the chaser with half the mask broken off thats how it happened. (Or I didnt look closely enough.
Darkwatch
02-20-2007, 01:34 PM
To be completely honest I shunned that thought the first time I saw the secret ending. . .since I was just so happy I didn't care. xD
But yeah, I seriously haven't thought about whether it is that dragon or not. Probably is, or not.
No one knows. =P
Hadn't taken a good look at the monster when I saw thew ending. I'm guessing you guys are talking about the Dragon in the before last battle of KH2 right cuz I got confused.
However, I don't think the way he disentegrates has to do with the way Kairi Sora and Riku disintegrate in the intro movie cuz in the real story they don't actually disintegrate. It's just a quick way of summarizing the storm in the intro movie.
Lexaeus
02-21-2007, 02:34 AM
I am a good friend of Marluxia XI and he is right it is the dragon but strife531 was right more peoples thoughts needed!
Strife531
02-21-2007, 05:08 AM
Thanks Lexaeus.
Yea, keep this thread alive, why does the dragon appear? And in part of the final battle, why is Xemnas coated in the knight-like armor!?
Marluxia XI
02-21-2007, 05:28 AM
You know Lexaeus is just me. I made him up at school.:D By the way, I love the avatar.
Strife531
02-21-2007, 05:35 AM
Haha, ok :D. Thanks.
by the way libregkd said the same thing about the weapons in the secret ending in "New Interview Info" forum under "News and Updates". I must not be looking hard enough because all I'm seeing is the structure of the dragon. By the way, its seems that Xigbar has a connection w/ the armored knights (so says the forum). Just adding info to the mix here
Marluxia XI
02-21-2007, 05:44 AM
Yeah, in an interview Tetsura Nomuya sid that Xigbar had a connection. He may be the blurred figure walking towards them?
AnimeGirl104
02-21-2007, 12:37 PM
I don't think Xigbar is in Kingdom Hearts 3,since he got Terminated by Sora in TWTNW.I think the knight walking up to them chasers might be Xehanort or Something.but that still leaves the identity of the 3 chasers.(My guess.It could be Sora,Riku,and Kairi.cause when half the mask came off that one knight,the face looked kinda like Sora.Its my opinion so I could be wrong.)
Strife531
02-21-2007, 10:08 PM
A lot of people have the same speculation as you, AnimeGirl104, however, in an interview Namura cleared the popular theory by saying that the 3 armored characters are completely new, however they may be connected to one one or more characters already introduced.
Me I'm kind of glad it's not Sora...why?...cus' that'd be too easy :P. Plus it adds to the KH world. Some say that the armored man w/ the smashed helmet is perhaps Sora's father. Hmmm, interesting, but this still doesn't answer why the dragon is in the secret video :/
Marluxia XI
02-21-2007, 10:14 PM
C'mon people! this is about the dragon, not Xigbar!
ansemsnobody
02-22-2007, 02:07 AM
xigbar is my favorite org. member
but mabey teh org. is a bigger part in teh game than we thought
EvilMan_89
02-22-2007, 02:15 AM
i NEVER noticed a monster. i saw knights and keyblades but no monster so i have no clue what ur talking about
ansemsnobody
02-22-2007, 02:21 AM
well you know that monster we fight in the ending battle with xemnes well it appears in teh backround
Strife531
02-22-2007, 05:33 AM
To help you out a little more ,EvilMan 89, it's what the knight is standing on in the beginning. He walks off of it and it de-materializes
Marluxia XI
02-22-2007, 06:34 AM
What happens to the dragon when it de-materialises?
X-thor
02-22-2007, 08:52 AM
Weird I never noticed that
AnimeGirl104
02-22-2007, 10:27 AM
yeah you have a point that would be easy.Maybe Its Sora's older Brother or something.though what about the other two.maybe relatives of Riku and Kairi?we'll never know until KH3.
ansemsnobody
02-22-2007, 05:36 PM
i cant wait till kh3 and some people were saying it may be soras father
AnimeGirl104
02-22-2007, 06:51 PM
Sora's Dad?that would explain why the Keyblade chose him.like father,like son.though I say its his Older brother,or maybe his twin brother.
SnoofyXChristhor
02-22-2007, 07:02 PM
this will probably sound dumb but i think that xemnas... or the ??? created from xehanorts soul is in there and that xehanort was one of the first chasers but lost his memory and turned to ansem the wise for guidance.Yada yada yada heartless possesses riku to gfet keyblade riku ends up with it yada yada xemnas turns into part of the chaser's ttue form with the memories he remember's from hingdom hearts itself and then the???becomes a caser again and slays the dragon that came with him as it epresents how xehanort was the chaser who followed the darkness.
Twilight Deity Link
02-22-2007, 08:15 PM
i need a good picture to decide that it's the dragon
cause it looks too small to be the dragon
and theres no clear picture of the thing in the video
VideoGameNerd246
02-22-2007, 08:33 PM
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/VideoGameNerd246/KH3dragon.jpg Here is a clear picture of the myterious monster.
Strife531
02-23-2007, 04:43 AM
Nice theory, riku sora kairi own, I understand what you're saying, that definitely sounds ligit, apparently the male knight is considered a friend by one of the org. leaders (see promo video) so maybe it is who you say it is.
In regards to the dragon dematerializing, I think it might be becoming a lost memory or something to that effect. Just a hunch.
I want to encourage everyone to take a look at the promo video, especially the very very end w/ the split second glimpses of the ??? (knight) in the chamber w/ the organization member. Reading the info posted on the main page under the video...apparently the org. member refers to this male armored knight as a friend. So chew on it.
VideoGameNerd246
02-24-2007, 02:31 PM
My theory pawns all :p . About KH3 that is.
Years before Sora's adventure, there was a great war. In a place between worlds, there were those known as "Chasers", those who had manifested great power and chanelled it through weapons they experly crafted known as the Keyblades. There were four Chasers.
The Chasers all had to power to create, save, destroy and lock world's hearts. Their keyblade gave them enough power to unlock the energy of a worlds physical heart and be able to move from world to world.
The Chasers began to follow their own ambitions. In the place between worlds, where all of their keyblades laid to rest, the four seperated. Two followed the path of light, bringing life to the worlds, following the paths of Light and Twilight. The other two, they grew unhappy and decided that those who did not respect them should perish. They followed the path of Darkness. They began to bring destruction to worlds, destroying them.
One of the two Dark Chasers realized the faults in his ways and decided to back out. Much as Riku did, this Chaser follows the path of Dawn back to the Crossroads where he is forgiven for his ways. The final Chaser, the one they called Xehanort, would not give up, would not give in. The war began, it is unknown for how long this terrible time lasted. It has been recorded though and the Chasers are much like gods.
The war was either between great armies or just between the four Chasers, either way, the Dark Chaser, the Dark Keyblade Master known as Xehanort fought against the others in a great Keyblade war.
Xehanort was defeated, and with that, he lost something dear: his memory. Cast away he was born again by sleep. Waking up in the world of Radiant Garden, almost dead, a great Saint known as Ansem found him and offered his assistance. He promised to help him and when he realized the man's memory was gone, he offered to help restore it.
The Chasers each had the ability to spread their power to a disciple or their spirits lived on through a bloodline or chosen ones. Passing their power on to make sure to Order of the Worlds was kept safe.
One Keyblade went to the King of all the Worlds: Mickey.
When Xehanort began to believe he was in fact Ansem, his fascination with the Keyblades grew. Unknowning even to himself who he was.
When the Heartless were born and began to create chaos, Riku was chosen to weild the next Keyblade, to save the people from destruction while Mickey was in the World of Darkness. But, Riku's heart was tainted by his willingness to let darkness overcome him and the Keyblade was passed on to Sora.
After being selected first and later overcome by Xehanort, Xehanort was able to harvest his power to reclaim his Dark Keyblade and thus, Riku was able to have his own.
The final Keyblade was unnecessary until later, when the goodness and innocence of Kairi was able to bring hope to the other Keyblade Weilders and she too was chosen.
Roxas only had ones because he is an element of Sora.
After their adventures had ended, Mickey sends a troubling letter to Sora, Kairi and Riku. A letter that reveals Xehanort's next plot. That he has perhaps remembered his true self. A plot to destroy the other Chasers, a plot to be the one and only Keyblade Master.
A great beast is sent to the Crossroads between worlds but is slain by one of the Chasers. The others appear from their selected paths and reclaim their Keyblades, as though they haven't been touched in a long time. They look to the road of Darkness and the shady figure of Xehanort moves forward. Through his time within Riku, he is essentially "reborn" and while Riku tries to remove him, he is never gone. With enough power he returns to the Crossroads and a great war is about to begin once again. One that will decide the fate of the Chasers and all of those who hold a Keyblade...
EvilMan_89
02-24-2007, 03:18 PM
wow, how long did it take u to think of that an type it up? well....urs is interesting so u get rep!
Roxas-
02-24-2007, 11:12 PM
THAT IS THE BLOODY DRAGON!!!!! I CANT BELIEVE I DIDNT NOTICE THAT!!! THANKS Marluxia XI YOU HAVE DONE SO WELL!!!:D
Xeitr The False Image
02-25-2007, 12:19 AM
acctually it could be xigbar but a new person at the same time it could be who xigbar was b4 he became a nobody maybe he was soras keys original weilder cause it is just me or when he first sees you doesnt he look longlily at the keyblade then like someone whos a jealous lover makes fun of its decision of sora
ansemsnobody
03-02-2007, 12:07 AM
where can i find the promo video.
Roxas++
03-03-2007, 09:29 PM
returning Strife531's idea, Xemnas is also armoured? A bit similar if you ask me. Also, If you defeated him in armor mode, how come he survives?
xValorxSorax
03-04-2007, 02:11 AM
How do you guys/girls see the Org. XIII's weapons?! I don't see them. I'm watching the video over and over on YouTube and pausing it to where the dragon is barely seen. And I don't see them.
EDIT: Oh... heh heh, I see them now. Yeah, it does look like Xigbar's weapons and Vexen's...shield? If it is the shield.
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