I don't understand...

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Well, this is my third week of school and this situation has been going on constantly..

There are these two guys in my class that seem to always bother me. They throw pencils at me, always tell me to say stuff that I can't pronounce properly because of my retainer, and they also watch everything I do for some reason.
I don't understand this. One time, one of these guys complimented on my good style of clothing, which he seemed to really mean. The next day, he's there throwing pencils and me and poking me with pencils as well.
Are there any percaussions you think I should take? Which involves avoiding to straight away tell the teacher?

I am really getting sick and tired of how they act towards me. It's only me they act that way to as well. Everyone else they get along with...

[Deathsight44]

First off, how old are you, and what is your hieght? (this can usually make the difference of what you can and can't do.)

Also, would you consider yourself strong? (this could refer to physical action if you don't want to head to a teacher. I've dealt with worse, but this sounds pretty classic).


Also, what kind of kids are these? What social group would you say?

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

First off, how old are you, and what is your hieght? (this can usually make the difference of what you can and can't do.)

Also, would you consider yourself strong? (this could refer to physical action if you don't want to head to a teacher. I've dealt with worse, but this sounds pretty classic).


Also, what kind of kids are these? What social group would you say?
Okay, my height is like... 4'6. My age is a different story. I don't use strength for situations like this. And, these kids seem to have quite a bit of friends, they seem to be nice to others as well.

[daxma]

Oh...K.These guys are the socialists.These guys are just having fun but they use you because your less social then them and probably don't socialise with the girls.They do mean the complements.I used to be less social but i've grown up and they stop doing that stuff to me.There were some other idiots though who bumped up the annoyance.If they do,if you become more social then them then just give them the super cold shoulder as i so call it.Where you block them out and ignore literally everything they say or do.Push against them with your shoulder if they pass you.It's harsh but effective and is to be used as a last resort.They may respect you after this because i've done it before and they left me alone and respected me.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Oh...K.These guys are the socialists.These guys are just having fun but they use you because your less social then them and probably don't socialise with the girls.They do mean the complements.I used to be less social but i've grown up and they stop doing that stuff to me.If they continue if you become more social then them then just give them the super cold shoulder as i so call it.Where you block them out and ignore literally everything they say or do.Push against them with your shoulder if they pass you.It's harsh but effective and is to be used as a last resort.They may respect you after this because i've done it before and they left me alone and respected me.Interesting way of handling this. I am not sure if pushing them is going to make them respect you. You have really interesting ways of dealing with things daxma, which we both have in common, which I respect in ways. According to what you've said, you seem to actually understand what I am going through. Ignoring them is the best thing I can do for now. I may use the super cold shoulder technique very soon.

[daxma]

Interesting way of handling this. I am not sure if pushing them is going to make them respect you. You have really interesting ways of dealing with things daxma, which we both have in common, which I respect in ways. According to what you've said, you seem to actually understand what I am going through. Ignoring them is the best thing I can do for now. I may use the super cold shoulder technique very soon.Believe me.. they don't actually want to hurt your feelings just they want a bit of fun and it's at your expense.It's like their way of making you more social and it's all subconsious.

[Deathsight44]

Interesting way of handling this. I am not sure if pushing them is going to make them respect you. You have really interesting ways of dealing with things daxma, which we both have in common, which I respect in ways. According to what you've said, you seem to actually understand what I am going through. Ignoring them is the best thing I can do for now. I may use the super cold shoulder technique very soon.
Lol. Just make sure you know just how far these guys are gonna go.


2 years ago I had to deal with some dude who got pissed off cuz I wouldn't do what I told him (I aint exsactly popular either), and from what I have learned now, the dudes mom had cancer (her mom died last year. I feel bad for the family, but for him, I have no remorse), and so every chance he got, he started acten gay and started comen onto me, and so the rest of his group followed (preps basicly. If ya dont know what a prep is, then basicly, those are the school rich kids).

I tried ignoren them, but sadly enough, that didn't help, and I had to resort to punchen the guy in the face (I didn't want to, but it got to a point where he hit a nerve and either way, I doubt I could've conciouslly stopped myself).

After that though, him and his groups of friends got together, and made up a bull story that I made a death threat, and to make things worse, it happend around the west virginia shooting, principle didn't care if I was innocent or not cuz it turns out he made it recorded that I admitted to it all when I didn't admit to a single thing..........well, you get the point.




Point I am tryen to get at though is that you godda handle these things carefully, because normally, it is just some kid who you can ignore, but if they keep on comen at you, then things can get pretty tricky................ besides that though, you should probably go along with daxma's advice. I can't say I would ever take it, but you should.



and daxma, dude, not for nothen, but you got lucky with that one. There are some kids who would go to bigger extreme's then what I said. I'd rather not say exsactly what those are here. I'm not sayen that you are wrong, but I am sayen that not all bullies are as easy goin as the ones that you had.

[daxma]

Lol. Just make sure you know just how far these guys are gonna go.


2 years ago I had to deal with some dude who got pissed off cuz I wouldn't do what I told him (I aint exsactly popular either), and from what I have learned now, the dudes mom had cancer (her mom died last year. I feel bad for the family, but for him, I have no remorse), and so every chance he got, he started acten gay and started comen onto me, and so the rest of his group followed (preps basicly. If ya dont know what a prep is, then basicly, those are the school rich kids).

I tried ignoren them, but sadly enough, that didn't help, and I had to resort to punchen the guy in the face (I didn't want to, but it got to a point where he hit a nerve and either way, I doubt I could've conciouslly stopped myself).

After that though, him and his groups of friends got together, and made up a bull story that I made a death threat, and to make things worse, it happend around the west virginia shooting, principle didn't care if I was innocent or not cuz it turns out he made it recorded that I admitted to it all when I didn't admit to a single thing..........well, you get the point.




Point I am tryen to get at though is that you godda handle these things carefully, because normally, it is just some kid who you can ignore, but if they keep on comen at you, then things can get pretty tricky................ besides that though, you should probably go along with daxma's advice. I can't say I would ever take it, but you should.



and daxma, dude, not for nothen, but you got lucky with that one. There are some kids who would go to bigger extreme's then what I said. I'd rather not say exsactly what those are here. I'm not sayen that you are wrong, but I am sayen that not all bullies are as easy goin as the ones that you had.Off the topic:

Personally i think that you couldn't have taken that situation any better.So what if he made a story about you what else could he do?Take away your dignity...no because you stole his first.Beat you up...no because you showed him he can't win.Use his leverage...no because he's been bullying you forever.Get his parents after you...no because he didn't want to cause anymore pain or heartache.You had him in a seriously good position and you handled it well in my opinion.

Believe me Deathsight this guy was serious.He'd annoyed me whenever he saw me and he want to serious extremes like trying to put me in fights but then i just pretended he didn't even exist and now he's actually socaible.

[robert the yogurt]

Whatever you do do not ignore them. Do not threaten them either both ways they'll laugh and continue. Demonstrate that you can stop them without physically harming them. Like just put pictures in their minds to scare them off or put pictures in their minds that your just like them.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Whatever you do do not ignore them. Do not threaten them either both ways they'll laugh and continue. Demonstrate that you can stop them without physically harming them. Like just put pictures in their minds to scare them off or put pictures in their minds that your just like them.I understand what you are saying but, how do I put pictures into their minds?(I know what you mean, I am not being stupid :P)

[Deathsight44]

Off the topic:

Personally i think that you couldn't have taken that situation any better.So what if he made a story about you what else could he do?Take away your dignity...no because you stole his first.Beat you up...no because you showed him he can't win.Use his leverage...no because he's been bullying you forever.Get his parents after you...no because he didn't want to cause anymore pain or heartache.You had him in a seriously good position and you handled it well in my opinion.

Believe me Deathsight this guy was serious.He'd annoyed me whenever he saw me and he want to serious extremes like trying to put me in fights but then i just pretended he didn't even exist and now he's actually socaible.
Lol. Good to hear that from someone actually. Total sucky part of it though is that the dudes mom died like a month after. I mean, the irony was sweet, but still though, I feel bad for the woman, since she died knowen that her son had done all that. Really is a horrible way to die, know what i'm sayen?

Whatever you do do not ignore them. Do not threaten them either both ways they'll laugh and continue. Demonstrate that you can stop them without physically harming them. Like just put pictures in their minds to scare them off or put pictures in their minds that your just like them.

Dude, that isn't exsactly good advice. If he doesn't try and ignore them, then things can easily get worse

[daxma]

Lol. Good to hear that from someone actually. Total sucky part of it though is that the dudes mom died like a month after. I mean, the irony was sweet, but still though, I feel bad for the woman, since she died knowen that her son had done all that. Really is a horrible way to die, know what i'm sayen? Did you tell the teachers about the bullying?
Well atleast the woman died knowing the truth about her son and making a possible change in him from a bully then her dieing thinking of a gracefully ignorant view of her son while he continues to bully.I think she would've wanted to know the truth before dieing.

[robert the yogurt]

I understand what you are saying but, how do I put pictures into their minds?(I know what you mean, I am not being stupid :P)

I understand you. And to put the pictures into their heads talk with them email them write notes to them during class. just anyway possible to make thwm think your one of them waiting to happen.

[Deathsight44]

No. He is still the same as usual. He just can't come near me or socialize with me in school or else it goes on his permanent record ^_^

sadly enough though, I am currenty in an english honors class, and (my old school got pretty pissed off cuz since they tried to just get me expelled without even trying to see whether or not I was innocent, and ****, I've got the proof that they tried cuz I could've sued, I basicly got a few employees fired >: ) ) I am now some how in a class with every kid except for the one who lead the whole thing, as well as many other prep kids. In other words, I am in a class where all but only a few people I have had issues with, lmao. It ranges from 15-20 people ^_^

As for how she died though, if she had died knowen about someone else, perhaps a family member who she didn't know all that well, then I am sure that it is alrite. But say you had a family member that you really loved, and you found out that they were doing what that kid did to me? (for all I know though, she could've been a *****. Though I do know that the parents ended up sending me an apology)


Lol. As for the teachers, no. I didn't want my parents involved, just like Abridgd doesnt want to do I am assuming. It would not have done anything either, because they never actually said an insult to me. They would smile, act as if they were my friends or some **** like that (though I knew it was all bull), and tried to make me look gay by comen onto me. But, they never actually said a single insult to me, and their parents were friends with the principle and school board, so it was a tough situation


Abridgd though, if things ever get serious for you, then go to the teachers for help or somethen. After all, if stuff goes on their permanent record, then face facts, ur basicly ruining what could've been a brighter future for the kids that are bothering you, know what I'm sayen?

I understand you. And to put the pictures into their heads talk with them email them write notes to them during class. just anyway possible to make thwm think your one of them waiting to happen.
And if you want to follow roberts advise, then that is alrite, but to me, it seems a bit cowardly. Not for nothen, but for me, pride is a big issue, and I hate it when someone tries to blend in (one of the main reasons why they came after me. I have a lot of friends, but I don't try to fit in with any crowds, and I just do my own thing)

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

I understand you. And to put the pictures into their heads talk with them email them write notes to them during class. just anyway possible to make thwm think your one of them waiting to happen.
Well, I could always resort to that as a "backup plan", type of thing.But, I don't think the e-mail would work.

[daxma]

No. He is still the same as usual. He just can't come near me or socialize with me in school or else it goes on his permanent record ^_^

sadly enough though, I am currenty in an english honors class, and (my old school got pretty pissed off cuz since they tried to just get me expelled without even trying to see whether or not I was innocent, and ****, I've got the proof that they tried cuz I could've sued, I basicly got a few employees fired >: ) ) I am now some how in a class with every kid except for the one who lead the whole thing, as well as many other prep kids. In other words, I am in a class where all but only a few people I have had issues with, lmao. It ranges from 15-20 people ^_^

As for how she died though, if she had died knowen about someone else, perhaps a family member who she didn't know all that well, then I am sure that it is alrite. But say you had a family member that you really loved, and you found out that they were doing what that kid did to me? (for all I know though, she could've been a *****. Though I do know that the parents ended up sending me an apology)


Lol. As for the teachers, no. I didn't want my parents involved, just like Abridgd doesnt want to do I am assuming. It would not have done anything either, because they never actually said an insult to me. They would smile, act as if they were my friends or some **** like that (though I knew it was all bull), and tried to make me look gay by comen onto me. But, they never actually said a single insult to me, and their parents were friends with the principle and school board, so it was a tough situation


Abridgd though, if things ever get serious for you, then go to the teachers for help or somethen. After all, if stuff goes on their permanent record, then face facts, ur basicly ruining what could've been a brighter future for the kids that are bothering you, know what I'm sayen?


And if you want to follow roberts advise, then that is alrite, but to me, it seems a bit cowardly. Not for nothen, but for me, pride is a big issue, and I hate it when someone tries to blend in (one of the main reasons why they came after me. I have a lot of friends, but I don't try to fit in with any crowds, and I just do my own thing)Ask for a transfer to another school or go straight to the board/department of education.This a bit unfair that they're going after you for punching a bully in the face.Go to the board/department.Their parents aren't unreasonable.Their parents won't protect them if they hear what they're doing to you and board/department members can't take favouritism with family friends or anything otherwise they lose their jobs.You could sue most of the teachers and students for emotional stress.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Ask for a transfer to another school or go straight to the board/department of education.This a bit unfair that they're going after you for punching a bully in the face.Go to the board/department.Their parents aren't unreasonable.Their parents won't protect them if they hear what they're doing to you and board/department members can't take favouritism with family friends or anything otherwise they lose their jobs.You could sue most of the teachers and students for emotional stress.Why are you guys off topic now?

[daxma]

Why are you guys off topic now? sorry i just drifted that way because deathsight is a harder situation.I've given you all thehelp i can so if i can help another in the process then i will.

[Deathsight44]

Lol. Problem is that there are no other english honors classes that I can move into now.
Besides, I am moven to new jersy in like a month anyways, so not a problem ^_^


Lol. sorry about that abridgd. I tend to rant a lot. We'll stop now ^_^

But basicly abridgd, looks like you have gotten a lot of advice. Still think ya need some more help or somethen? Any questions?

[daxma]

Lol. Problem is that there are no other english honors classes that I can move into now.
Besides, I am moven to new jersy in like a month anyways, so not a problem ^_^


Lol. sorry about that abridgd. I tend to rant a lot. We'll stop now ^_^

But basicly abridgd, looks like you have gotten a lot of advice. Still think ya need some more help or somethen? Any questions?I'm glad your moving to jersey.Make new friends,new start etc.
Sorry for going off the topic but i managed to help two people today so thats always a plus for my selfsteem and you guys'.

[Deathsight44]

I'm glad your moving to jersey.Make new friends,new start etc.
Sorry for going off the topic but i managed to help two people today so thats always a plus for my selfsteem and you guys'.
Lol, I know the feelen. Idk why, but a hobby of mine is helpen people. Makes life better for everyone if you help them out, even if it is the little things, cuz when you do somethen nice, then it tends to catch on.


But anyways, I don't think there is anything else to cover with the situation. Does anyone beg to differ?

[♥AL90♥]

Tell them to buzz off. If you have a problem you need to tell them. If you already tried that then it's time for adults to intervene there's no problem with adults trying to help I mean that's who I go to if I have a problem with someone and I want them to stop.

Unless you want to be pushed around I suggest you contact an adult. They know how to handle things. Your friends may not have as much wisdom as an adult yet.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

But guys there's also a reason why I had to post this thread. It's CONSTANT! I am so tired of this always happening. I don't know what to resort to. Thanks for the advice anyhow.

[Chevalier]

But guys there's also a reason why I had to post this thread. It's CONSTANT! I am so tired of this always happening. I don't know what to resort to. Thanks for the advice anyhow.

yeah, when its constant , there certainly is a breaking point.

for now you should try daxma's advice, and see how that goes.

but i hope your problem gets solved.

our just insult them

like if they poke you with their pens..you could say.

"why dont you shove that (insert curse here)up your....."

you know things like that.

[Repliku]

Well, this is my third week of school and this situation has been going on constantly..

There are these two guys in my class that seem to always bother me. They throw pencils at me, always tell me to say stuff that I can't pronounce properly because of my retainer, and they also watch everything I do for some reason.
I don't understand this. One time, one of these guys complimented on my good style of clothing, which he seemed to really mean. The next day, he's there throwing pencils and me and poking me with pencils as well.
Are there any percaussions you think I should take? Which involves avoiding to straight away tell the teacher?

I am really getting sick and tired of how they act towards me. It's only me they act that way to as well. Everyone else they get along with...


Actually, I would not do what Daxma suggested as it is aggressive and could be taken as hostile and make you seem more anti-social. Instead, if they play around and throw pencils at you, throw a couple back at them and smile earnestly. Take it light hearted. If you see that they say compliments to you and the next day they are messing with you, and you believe that the compliments were genuine, they may just want you to come out of your shell more and have some fun.

Try talking with them some and asking 'what's up?' and 'how's your day going?' if you can. If they do things that bug you say 'hey, man, that isn't cool. Lay off that, ok?". Be calm and try to have a pleasant demeanor as they seem to just be testing things and they may actually be harmless.

However, if you notice that they become more aggressive and rotten to you after this, then you may actually have to tell them to 'back off' and move around them. Most often I've found with these sorts that actually are 'kind of bullying' and yet 'kind of not bullying' that they are just goofing around and yet want to make friends. If you try the first idea here and find that they aren't just bullying to bully, then you will have made some friends. If they start to become utter @sses, you know that now too and can follow up accordingly with telling them to back off and if they don't, keep calm and don't 'ignore' them but also don't give in to their antics that are meant to tick you off. If one of them actually laid a hand on you, that's different but if you use your wit against theirs if they want to be lame, you come out looking all the better. Hope this helped, because sometimes these sorts of people aren't all that bad and I've made friends with some or found out their true colors by just being amiable, ironically. I tend to save my brutal side for those who deserve it.

[Nashida]

I don't know about throwing the pencils back at 'em, Repliku. Depending on where he's sitting in class, the teacher's more likely to spot him doing that back than the first incident. Which is sometimes the case; they don't spot the cause, just the effect. That's how it was when I was in school, and what my brother's doing now.

Instead, if they throw a pencil at ya, pick it up, and say something like "Thanks. I broke the tip on my other one." If they poke you in the back with a pen, play like your back itches or something. Kill 'em with kindness, that's the best way of dealing with it. Don't get physical and fight back, a lot of schools don't care who starts a fight and will discipline all involved. I had that happen once; a girl punched me in the eye and I put my hands up to shield my face before she did it again, and she went home and said I punched her. She got a week of out-of-school suspension, I got one day in-house for "laying my hands on her". Just be careful.

[Repliku]

I don't know about throwing the pencils back at 'em, Repliku. Depending on where he's sitting in class, the teacher's more likely to spot him doing that back than the first incident. Which is sometimes the case; they don't spot the cause, just the effect. That's how it was when I was in school, and what my brother's doing now.

Instead, if they throw a pencil at ya, pick it up, and say something like "Thanks. I broke the tip on my other one." If they poke you in the back with a pen, play like your back itches or something. Kill 'em with kindness, that's the best way of dealing with it. Don't get physical and fight back, a lot of schools don't care who starts a fight and will discipline all involved. I had that happen once; a girl punched me in the eye and I put my hands up to shield my face before she did it again, and she went home and said I punched her. She got a week of out-of-school suspension, I got one day in-house for "laying my hands on her". Just be careful.

Yeah, this is true. I just meant if it wasn't going to hurt the person and would be taken as a joke. But yeah, there are other ways to do it like taking the pencils too and using them heh. I just meant in the end to try acting light hearted about it and joke back. They may receive it well unless they really are intentionally wanting to hurt others and it lets you know which side of the fence they are on.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Hey guys, I am starting to get along with them better. I think I might've come out of my shell more like Repliku said.

[ArchVice]

Repliku is usually the one to point us in the right direction.