So this time I need to vent.

[Catch the Rain]

I don't hate anyone, I never have never will. It isn't in my nature, but

I really, majorly and seriously, hate my mom, I hate her in every sense of the word.

Ever since I was a tiny child she has made my life hell, you see, when I was 5 my father walked out and left my mom to look after me and my two sisters alone. My mom has for some reason always blamed me for this. She started drinking a lot and she got really depressed, she used to just spend all day in bed, take in mind I was like 5/6 at this stage. She got a new job and then she dumped me and my little sister in this like club thing all the time so that she didn't have to look after us. We hardly ever used to see her and when we did she just used to yell at me all the time.

When I was like 6 my mom started hitting me all the time, at the slightest little tiny thing she would go into a huge fit and start going mental at me, I remember once she kicked me so hard that she nearly bruised the bone. I was always covered in bruises and stuff but I used to tell people that I just fell over. I was a kid, I'm sure they didn't believe me but whatever. This carried on for a long time, and the older I got the more I had to do.

By the time I was like 8 I was running the house, I did all the cleaning, all of the laundry, I did the ironing and the cooking, I did the shopping and I was the one who used to go pay the bills, which meant going into the city and stuff. My mom was still drinking a lot, she used to do a lot of drugs too, but she would wait until my little sister had gone to bed. See she never was horrible to my little sister which I seriously ****ing glad about :3 and my older sister in all honesty was a complete ****, she would skip school, steal, do drugs, get drunk and she would **** around, but my mom would get at her and take it out on me.

Every time my mom had a bad day then she would blame me, every time something went wrong she would blame me. I remember once my little sister broke a plate or something and my mom pretty much punched me in the face and said it was my fault or not watching my sister properly.

I used to get bullied at school a lot and my mom would just say it was what i deserved because I was a waste of ****ing space. She would tell me that a lot, that I was nothing but a waste of space. She still tells me that now.

My mom lost her job, she started drinking again ALL the time and she was always really angry, I remeber once she was really pissed so I hid in my room, I heard her coming up the stairs so I blocked the door, I remember screaming at her to leave me alone and she pretty much bust my door open and beat the hell out of me just because she was in a bad mood.

We moved to where I live now when I was like 12. My mom stopped hitting me so much but she was still really horrible to me, she would insult me all the time, call me ugly, tell me I was fat and stupid and tell me I was a waste of everything. I remember that one day she hit me really hard and I smacked my head on a wall, I just looked at her in the eyes and didnt cry, she slapped me again and I still idnt cry, just turned around and walked away. After that she always made sure when she hurt me that she hurt me emotionally and mentally. I was still having to do everything at home, I was still doing all the cleaning etc and I was still looking after my little sister. I pretty much ****ing raised my little sister :\

Anyways, a bunch of **** happened at school that I dont want to go into. Needless to say I was a very angry kid. I used to self harm a lot, pathetic I know, Istill have faint scars on my right arm from when I used to cut it. Someone told her once, a teacher I think, was worried about me so told my mom. My mom yelled at me and said I was an embarrassment, she said if I was going to do that sort of **** to make sure I cut the right place next time.

I worked my ass off at school because I was determined to escape, I got fantastic grades in year11, but they werent good enough for her. I got As and she wanted A stars. I learnt at a very young age to keep a smile on my face always, I did well in drama for reason xD

As soon as I turned 16 that was when she started yelling all the time for me to get a job because if I was going to be staying at home then I better start paying my way. Since I was 16 my mom has not paid for anything for me. I even pay for my own food a lot of the time. She takes over half of my wages a month, and I only work part time you know :\ the rest of the time I am at University studying. She even yells at me about that and says that I am going to **** it all up and be a failure. She always threatens me, says if I dont do what she wants that she will do stuff like throw all my stuff out. I remeber she once took my laptop off me for 2 weeks :\ I ended up having to rush assignments when I finally got it back. She also disconnects the internet (even though I ****ing pay for it) and I need to be online in order to do a LOT of my research. She doesn't care though.

She once said she thinks I should drop out so I can work full time and give her more money because she spent 16 years raising me and blah blah blah.

Lately she has beenr eally bad. The other night she threw a glass at me and called me a *****, I don't even know what that was about. Every single night she yells at me for something. Tonight she yelled at me because I wanted lasagna and she wanted something different.

My little sister doesn't have a job, and my mom uses a lot of her money for cigarettes and drinking. She adores my older sister though. She gives my older sister money a lot and paid for her house to be decorated, but, the money my mom gave my sister, I then had to give my mom more money from my wages to cover it. I was meant to take my driving test like 6 months ago but I had to lend my mom the money I had saved for driving lessons because she wanted to pay off my older sisters debts (yes my older sister is in debt and I am pretty much paying it off).

Tonight my mom started yelling because she said I don't give her enough money, I said I give her what I can and I need the rest to be able to survive, she started yelling and going all mad and stuff, saying I was lying and I waste my money when I should be giving it to her, and then she started saying I was being selfish because if I dont give her money it means my neice and nephew are missing out (Yeah I didnt get that either). At the moment I am pretty much raising my neice and nephew too ._. my older sister is like always drunk or high or asleep and she wont even play with the kids. So it is down to me to look after them.

My mom said tonight that she is disconnecting my internet for good, that she doesnt give a **** about college because it isnt her problem, but get this, she still wants the money that I give for the internet as extra each month.

When I was 18 i tried to escape, I was going to go to University in Wales and move out ._. but she laid one hell of a guilt trip on me saying that she needed me and all this **** and I fell for it, but if I leave then I know her and my sisters wouldnt be able to cope. The house would be a mess and they wouldnt eat right ._. plus they would have a lot less money.

I just, I don't know what to do anymore. I can't keep doing this.

Sometimes I seriosuly wish I would actually die because that has got to be better than this hell of a life. There are a lot of other things I could say too, but what's the point ._.

I hate my mom. I just wish I knew why she hated me so much.

[Pistol Schoolboy]

Wow, I must say, your mother is what I hardly meet these days. She is a drunken, stupid who needs to realize the better things in life and not blame all the s**t that hits her on her lovely children, other than your older sister. I mean, really, you don't deserve any of that bulls**t.

You should be glad she's hardly in your life anymore. This woman is what makes society just rotten. I'm glad you aren't anything like her. I mean, honestly, who the f**k would hit their child when another child did something wrong? Or hit them in general? Mistakes happen.

Guess she never kept that in mind.

Another thing, your mother is obviously very greedy. Keeping you forever just for money. Pft, she should just die. Not you.

Seriously.

[Catch the Rain]

My mom blames me for those mistakes. If something goes wrong then it is automatically my fault. Sometimes it is more like I am her mom.

I am so tired of fighting and crying, though I never let her see me cry now, that only makes her happier. I love my mom to pieces I really do, i just kinda wish she would love me back you know ._.

Oh yeah and before anyone says I should tell someone official or whatever, I have tried that, but my mom is an even better actress than I am. To the outside world she is perfect ._. its just me she cant stand.

[Pistol Schoolboy]

My mom blames me for those mistakes. If something goes wrong then it is automatically my fault. Sometimes it is more like I am her mom.

I am so tired of fighting and crying, though I never let her see me cry now, that only makes her happier. I love my mom to pieces I really do, i just kinda wish she would love me back you know ._.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

My mother's side, Japanese, as I told you before, is just the same way. So, I know how you feel. I hope this all will blow over sometime soon.

[Catch the Rain]

Yeah, I know what you mean.

My mother's side, Japanese, as I told you before, is just the same way. So, I know how you feel. I hope this all will blow over sometime soon.

This has been happening since I was 5, I seriously doubt it is going to blow over anytime soon.

I've tried talking to her about it before, but she always starts yelling again ._.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Holy ****.
No offense, but your mom is out of her mind... ...I feel really ashamed you have to go through such crap.
I don't understand why she hates you so much in the first place. I wonder what you did to make her so angry at you..

[VideoGameNerd246]

I have to say that is a real dilemma, but have you ever tried standing up to your mom maybe? Like, don't take **** from her and maybe she will stop bothering you. Just try to argue back and don't let her lay a finger on you and if she means all the stuff you said she says, then she would be better without you. Maybe you should try to leave her. She (says she) can take care of herself and I would suggest, if you can, take your younger sister and your niece and nephew too if you can.

EDIT: Also, maybe you can just try to find your mom a date. You said she's been like that since your dad left you. Maybe she just needs a good man in her life.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

VGN is right, stand up to her and don't collapse because of this. Your mom is kinda like a bully(more like IS a bully) and really has some serious things going on. Maybe it could be the drugs that she takes. That could be one problem.

[Catch the Rain]

Holy ****.
No offense, but your mom is out of her mind... ...I feel really ashamed you have to go through such crap.
I don't understand why she hates you so much in the first place. I wonder what you did to make her so angry at you..


I wish I knew too ._. I really do, because I have no idea. She was great until my father left.

I think it is because I am the responsible one, like I'm the one with a job and I'm 7 months away from getting my degree. I've always been the smart one and the reliable one. My older sister just caused hell, my little sister has learning difficulties. I guess my mom relied on me to keep everything together or something, idk, maybe I said my ABCs in a way she didn't like :/

I have tried so many times to make things right, but how the **** can I fix something when I don't even know how it is broken?

[Haseo]

I feel bad for you, Kay. Why would she blame things on you, considering you were 5/6? She should have taken matters into her own hand, instead of blaming it on her kid, who did absolutely nothing wrong. *huggles Kay*

[Styx]

Wow...Kayleigh, I'm so sorry for you. :(

Your mom has no real power. She has no money of her own (since you provide most or all of it), she doesn't have much influence on her kids (since she never raised them in the first place).
The only power she can exert is power she believes to have herself. You, however, have got all the resources to turn the tables and "come out on top".

You might see more options when you've created some space for yourself to feel stronger.

[Heaven's Angel]

Well, I know this may sound crazy or maybe it isn't possible, but have you thought about trying to get a hold of your dad and letting him know what's been going on? Really, there should be some way he can help this situation...

I'm terribly sorry to hear that this has happened to you. There aren't many people out there who are like your mom, and it's unfortunate that you just happened to be stuck with one of them. Really, I can't give you any other advise rather than to just keep hanging in there... You've definately been taking this situation much better than I ever could have... I'll be praying for you, but I really can't say much more than that to help you... You're such a nice person, and you really don't deserve this. :/

[Catch the Rain]

I have to say that is a real dilemma, but have you ever tried standing up to your mom maybe? Like, don't take **** from her and maybe she will stop bothering you. Just try to argue back and don't let her lay a finger on you and if she means all the stuff you said she says, then she would be better without you. Maybe you should try to leave her. She can take care of herself and I would suggest, if you can, take your younger sister and your niece and nephew too if you can.

EDIT: Also, maybe you can just try to find your mom a date. You said she's been like that since your dad left you. Maybe she just needs a good man in her life.

I have tried standing up to her yes, I've argued back with her yes, I have stood my ground before. She refused to talk to me once for 3 weeks because I stood up to her >_> and she told my family I was a bad girl and stuff and they all *****ed about me ._.

I have tried leaving but a) she takes most of my money on the day I get paid so I can't afford to leave, and b) she always guilt trips me. She knows I can't leave and let them all suffer ._.

My little sister is starting to get bad too >_> she stays in bed all day and does nothing, her and my older sister gang up on me a lot and tell me I should die >_> my little sister likes causing arguments because she knows that when my mom is mad at me that she gets spoilt, my neice and nephew live my older sister xD that would be kidnap if I took them.


lmfao, I said she has been a ***** since my father left, I never said that there hadnt been other men...

[gintasthebest]

I don't hate anyone, I never have never will. It isn't in my nature, but

I really, majorly and seriously, hate my mom, I hate her in every sense of the word.

Ever since I was a tiny child she has made my life hell, you see, when I was 5 my father walked out and left my mom to look after me and my two sisters alone. My mom has for some reason always blamed me for this. She started drinking a lot and she got really depressed, she used to just spend all day in bed, take in mind I was like 5/6 at this stage. She got a new job and then she dumped me and my little sister in this like club thing all the time so that she didn't have to look after us. We hardly ever used to see her and when we did she just used to yell at me all the time.

When I was like 6 my mom started hitting me all the time, at the slightest little tiny thing she would go into a huge fit and start going mental at me, I remember once she kicked me so hard that she nearly bruised the bone. I was always covered in bruises and stuff but I used to tell people that I just fell over. I was a kid, I'm sure they didn't believe me but whatever. This carried on for a long time, and the older I got the more I had to do.

By the time I was like 8 I was running the house, I did all the cleaning, all of the laundry, I did the ironing and the cooking, I did the shopping and I was the one who used to go pay the bills, which meant going into the city and stuff. My mom was still drinking a lot, she used to do a lot of drugs too, but she would wait until my little sister had gone to bed. See she never was horrible to my little sister which I seriously ****ing glad about :3 and my older sister in all honesty was a complete ****, she would skip school, steal, do drugs, get drunk and she would **** around, but my mom would get at her and take it out on me.

Every time my mom had a bad day then she would blame me, every time something went wrong she would blame me. I remember once my little sister broke a plate or something and my mom pretty much punched me in the face and said it was my fault or not watching my sister properly.

I used to get bullied at school a lot and my mom would just say it was what i deserved because I was a waste of ****ing space. She would tell me that a lot, that I was nothing but a waste of space. She still tells me that now.

My mom lost her job, she started drinking again ALL the time and she was always really angry, I remeber once she was really pissed so I hid in my room, I heard her coming up the stairs so I blocked the door, I remember screaming at her to leave me alone and she pretty much bust my door open and beat the hell out of me just because she was in a bad mood.

We moved to where I live now when I was like 12. My mom stopped hitting me so much but she was still really horrible to me, she would insult me all the time, call me ugly, tell me I was fat and stupid and tell me I was a waste of everything. I remember that one day she hit me really hard and I smacked my head on a wall, I just looked at her in the eyes and didnt cry, she slapped me again and I still idnt cry, just turned around and walked away. After that she always made sure when she hurt me that she hurt me emotionally and mentally. I was still having to do everything at home, I was still doing all the cleaning etc and I was still looking after my little sister. I pretty much ****ing raised my little sister :\

Anyways, a bunch of **** happened at school that I dont want to go into. Needless to say I was a very angry kid. I used to self harm a lot, pathetic I know, Istill have faint scars on my right arm from when I used to cut it. Someone told her once, a teacher I think, was worried about me so told my mom. My mom yelled at me and said I was an embarrassment, she said if I was going to do that sort of **** to make sure I cut the right place next time.

I worked my ass off at school because I was determined to escape, I got fantastic grades in year11, but they werent good enough for her. I got As and she wanted A stars. I learnt at a very young age to keep a smile on my face always, I did well in drama for reason xD

As soon as I turned 16 that was when she started yelling all the time for me to get a job because if I was going to be staying at home then I better start paying my way. Since I was 16 my mom has not paid for anything for me. I even pay for my own food a lot of the time. She takes over half of my wages a month, and I only work part time you know :\ the rest of the time I am at University studying. She even yells at me about that and says that I am going to **** it all up and be a failure. She always threatens me, says if I dont do what she wants that she will do stuff like throw all my stuff out. I remeber she once took my laptop off me for 2 weeks :\ I ended up having to rush assignments when I finally got it back. She also disconnects the internet (even though I ****ing pay for it) and I need to be online in order to do a LOT of my research. She doesn't care though.

She once said she thinks I should drop out so I can work full time and give her more money because she spent 16 years raising me and blah blah blah.

Lately she has beenr eally bad. The other night she threw a glass at me and called me a *****, I don't even know what that was about. Every single night she yells at me for something. Tonight she yelled at me because I wanted lasagna and she wanted something different.

My little sister doesn't have a job, and my mom uses a lot of her money for cigarettes and drinking. She adores my older sister though. She gives my older sister money a lot and paid for her house to be decorated, but, the money my mom gave my sister, I then had to give my mom more money from my wages to cover it. I was meant to take my driving test like 6 months ago but I had to lend my mom the money I had saved for driving lessons because she wanted to pay off my older sisters debts (yes my older sister is in debt and I am pretty much paying it off).

Tonight my mom started yelling because she said I don't give her enough money, I said I give her what I can and I need the rest to be able to survive, she started yelling and going all mad and stuff, saying I was lying and I waste my money when I should be giving it to her, and then she started saying I was being selfish because if I dont give her money it means my neice and nephew are missing out (Yeah I didnt get that either). At the moment I am pretty much raising my neice and nephew too ._. my older sister is like always drunk or high or asleep and she wont even play with the kids. So it is down to me to look after them.

My mom said tonight that she is disconnecting my internet for good, that she doesnt give a **** about college because it isnt her problem, but get this, she still wants the money that I give for the internet as extra each month.

When I was 18 i tried to escape, I was going to go to University in Wales and move out ._. but she laid one hell of a guilt trip on me saying that she needed me and all this **** and I fell for it, but if I leave then I know her and my sisters wouldnt be able to cope. The house would be a mess and they wouldnt eat right ._. plus they would have a lot less money.

I just, I don't know what to do anymore. I can't keep doing this.

Sometimes I seriosuly wish I would actually die because that has got to be better than this hell of a life. There are a lot of other things I could say too, but what's the point ._.

I hate my mom. I just wish I knew why she hated me so much.

It took me awhile to read all that but that's just f*cking wrong. Your mom blamed everything on you and were still a child. I'm really sorry to read what you had to go through as a kid.

[VideoGameNerd246]

Hmm, have you considered maybe living with family friends? Like, is there someone you know who is like family to you who you can live with for a while?

[Deathsight44]

I'm gonna tell you what the smart, easy thing to do is. You should probably call up child services and let them know about everything that this ***** has been doing.

Duz ur lil sister hate her as well?
N also, u might want to do the same about ur sister. I've seen situations like the one you have next door. if things keep up like that, then those kids are screwed....

Think of things like this though. That ***** is not worth your time. Right now, you might have to put up with her, but if she disconnects your internet, then so help me, you tell her this. You tell her that she has to reconnect the internet, or else you'll call child services and the police. You tell her that there is no way to prevent it either, since you already have a friend who is going to be willing to do it instead, and that you have all the possible evidence needed. That you have done your research, and that you can have her locked away in a prison for life (this might not be true, but still). She needs to know that you will have the ability to make her life an uttermost hell, even if you do have to lie. Right now, you are in a situation where you are living under some *****, and the best way for you to gain power is to make this ***** of a mother fall.



Lol, good thing I aint her child though. Not for nothen, but if I was her child and she hit me or any of my siblings, the hell, I'd probably end up rushing the *****. I am one that means to oppose to violence, but ****, if someone is being hurt for no good reason, then hell, I'd just plain attack, even if they are my own blood. Simply my own way of doing things though



CTR, you have my compliments though. Whether you realize it or not, you have probably done something that most children in ur case have been unable to do, and that is survive without ending up as some crack head or something. You have the ability to get through this, and I strongly advise taking my suggestion, because if you do not take control of this situation, then, ur life is going to be miserable until your little sister is able to move out. But that ***** it taken ur funds, and hell, she sure as hell dont deserve em

[Catch the Rain]

I feel bad for you, Kay. Why would she blame things on you, considering you were 5/6? She should have taken matters into her own hand, instead of blaming it on her kid, who did absolutely nothing wrong. *huggles Kay*

*hugs back* I really wish I knew

Wow...Kayleigh, I'm so sorry for you. :(

Your mom has no real power. She has no money of her own (since you provide most or all of it), she doesn't have much influence on her kids (since she never raised them in the first place).
The only power she can exert is power she believes to have herself. You, however, have got all the resources to turn the tables and "come out on top".

You might see more options when you've created some space for yourself to feel stronger.

Thanks man. She does have a job and she does have her own money too, she just takes a lot of mine too ._. she has a lot of influence on my sisters, the three of them are really close and I am just an outsider :\

Well, I know this may sound crazy or maybe it isn't possible, but have you thought about trying to get a hold of your dad and letting him know what's been going on? Really, there should be some way he can help this situation...

I'm terribly sorry to hear that this has happened to you. There aren't many people out there who are like your mom, and it's unfortunate that you just happened to be stuck with one of them. Really, I can't give you any other advise rather than to just keep hanging in there... You've definately been taking this situation much better than I ever could have... I'll be praying for you, but I really can't say much more than that to help you... You're such a nice person, and you really don't deserve this. :/

My father walked out when I was 5 >_> I'm now 20, I don't think he particularly gives a ****. My father was into drugs too xD; he used to smoke pot in front of me and my little sister and stuff ._.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Contacting your dad in some way should be the best thing for you to do. This is so damn serious. SOMEONE in your family needs to know.

[gintasthebest]

*hugs back* I really wish I knew



Thanks man. She does have a job and she does have her own money too, she just takes a lot of mine too ._. she has a lot of influence on my sisters, the three of them are really close and I am just an outsider :\



My father walked out when I was 5 >_> I'm now 20, I don't think he particularly gives a ****. My father was into drugs too xD; he used to smoke pot in front of me and my little sister and stuff ._.

Wow, you had a rough childhood. I wish there was someone who could've helped you then.

Contacting your dad in some way should be the best thing for you to do. This is so damn serious. SOMEONE in your family needs to know.

From what she's saying, I don't know if her dad would give a damn even though he should.

[Styx]

These are just questions for me to have a better view on things...

Thanks man. She does have a job and she does have her own money too, she just takes a lot of mine too ._.
What would happen if you were to stop giving her money at all?

she has a lot of influence on my sisters, the three of them are really close and I am just an outsider :\
And if your mom starts yelling at you, whose side do/would they pick?

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

Here's a poem I made for you Kay, hope it's somewhat uplifting.

You cant restrain from feeling this pain,
It takes a while for respect to regain,
Seems to me that you're afraid,
But, don't let your hopes up because...
Your dreams are thoroughly laid.
Let them rest, for your own sake,

Someday,
You will journey through the days
To a lifetime, where nothing get's in your way
And you will never,
Be caught in in the blue,
Because all your dreams will finally come true...

Do you like it?

[RoxaSora2010]

I'm sorry for you :mellow: You needed to give vent to your sorrow. First thing I can say to you, is that die would not fix everything, though, maybe it could even worsen the things. You're thinking that if your mother hate you, if you die she would be happy, but it's not true, in fact, the hate thing is the consequence of the drug etc.
Then, I tied to look around, to understand why drunken people react like that, and the best thing I can say, is ignore her, because they enjoy when their "victim" react (Maybe becoming angry, or yelling or simply answering). So, if you don't react at her violence, she will not feel happy, she will not have a purpose and I think she will let you in peace :)

[gintasthebest]

I'm sure you can pull through eventauly. You always tell me that killing yourself is never the answer. Now I think it's time for you to take your own advice.

[Catch the Rain]

It took me awhile to read all that but that's just f*cking wrong. Your mom blamed everything on you and were still a child. I'm really sorry to read what you had to go through as a kid.

Thanks Emma ._.

Hmm, have you considered maybe living with family friends? Like, is there someone you know who is like family to you who you can live with for a while?

My mom's an amazing actress, I once told my auntie when i was younger what was happening, but to the outside world my mom is perfect. Everyone adores her, and she IS amazing, just not to me >_>

No one will believe me.

I'm gonna tell you what the smart, easy thing to do is. You should probably call up child services and let them know about everything that this ***** has been doing.

Duz ur lil sister hate her as well?
N also, u might want to do the same about ur sister. I've seen situations like the one you have next door. if things keep up like that, then those kids are screwed....

Think of things like this though. That ***** is not worth your time. Right now, you might have to put up with her, but if she disconnects your internet, then so help me, you tell her this. You tell her that she has to reconnect the internet, or else you'll call child services and the police. You tell her that there is no way to prevent it either, since you already have a friend who is going to be willing to do it instead, and that you have all the possible evidence needed. That you have done your research, and that you can have her locked away in a prison for life (this might not be true, but still). She needs to know that you will have the ability to make her life an uttermost hell, even if you do have to lie. Right now, you are in a situation where you are living under some *****, and the best way for you to gain power is to make this ***** of a mother fall.

Lol, good thing I aint her child though. Not for nothen, but if I was her child and she hit me or any of my siblings, the hell, I'd probably end up rushing the *****. I am one that means to oppose to violence, but ****, if someone is being hurt for no good reason, then hell, I'd just plain attack, even if they are my own blood. Simply my own way of doing things though

CTR, you have my compliments though. Whether you realize it or not, you have probably done something that most children in ur case have been unable to do, and that is survive without ending up as some crack head or something. You have the ability to get through this, and I strongly advise taking my suggestion, because if you do not take control of this situation, then, ur life is going to be miserable until your little sister is able to move out. But that ***** it taken ur funds, and hell, she sure as hell dont deserve em

My sisters have no problem with her.

When I was like idk I cant even remember how old I was there were so many times I got hit. I told a woman at that club place, and she called social services for me, my mom threatened me and made me lie and tell social services that I was making it up and that I did it falling over ._. the woman got the sack from work and my mom went on about how I was a bad kid because I had got the woman sacked. That woman was the only one who ever believed me.

It's my final year at University, I NEED to be online for a lot of my work, we hold seminars online and everything ._.

Thanks for the compliment man :\ I always thought that if I did really well and I stayed smart and stayed good that she would be proud of me one day ._.

Contacting your dad in some way should be the best thing for you to do. This is so damn serious. SOMEONE in your family needs to know.

My fathers side of the family completely cut off all communication when my father left, my moms side of the family have always believed my mom. There isn't anyone :\

My father wouldn't give a ****.

[Spunk Ransom (:]

Okay, so I am not really sure as to what advice to give, but I will try my best. I know you have said that you tried to contact officials, but I belive maybe if you contacted child services they could help, if your little sister is becoming like her mother, oh I lost my train of thought... Also, I must say, you are a very strong person. I don't know if I could of taken the stuff you went through. I will be praying for you and your family, and I really hope that you can find a way through all of this, you are a very nice person and you do not deserve any of this.

[gintasthebest]

Thanks Emma ._.



My mom's an amazing actress, I once told my auntie when i was younger what was happening, but to the outside world my mom is perfect. Everyone adores her, and she IS amazing, just not to me >_>

No one will believe me.



My sisters have no problem with her.

When I was like idk I cant even remember how old I was there were so many times I got hit. I told a woman at that club place, and she called social services for me, my mom threatened me and made me lie and tell social services that I was making it up and that I did it falling over ._. the woman got the sack from work and my mom went on about how I was a bad kid because I had got the woman sacked. That woman was the only one who ever believed me.

It's my final year at University, I NEED to be online for a lot of my work, we hold seminars online and everything ._.

Thanks for the compliment man :\ I always thought that if I did really well and I stayed smart and stayed good that she would be proud of me one day ._.



My fathers side of the family completely cut off all communication when my father left, my moms side of the family have always believed my mom. There isn't anyone :\

My father wouldn't give a ****.




Maybe you should run away some day. If you could I would invite you to say with me at my house.

[VideoGameNerd246]

You don't have to tell them anything. Just say you have to stay there for a while and you don't have to tell them about your mom. Just say something is wrong and you need to get out of the house for a while. No need for specifics.

Maybe you should run away some day. If you could I would invite you to say with me at my house.
Ginta, that's kind of unrealistic. If you would, can you try giving more realistic suggestions on what Kay should do instead of saying your sorry for her and inviting her to come to your house. Kthxbai.

[Haseo]

The only advice I can give you is that once you finishes college, try to avoid communication with your mother. I don't know if it'll work, but I can't really think of anything else.

[Styx]

When I was like idk I cant even remember how old I was there were so many times I got hit. I told a woman at that club place, and she called social services for me, my mom threatened me and made me lie and tell social services that I was making it up and that I did it falling over ._. the woman got the sack from work and my mom went on about how I was a bad kid because I had got the woman sacked. That woman was the only one who ever believed me.
Is is possible to seek help from that angle again?
Is your mom still able to threaten you?

[DPWolf]

*hugs*
Honestly Kay, I really would fly out to where you are and tell your mother what an awesome and successful person you are despite the way she treats you. Maybe having a completely random person burst in and rant at her will open her eyes. xD
You know that I am always here for you when you need to talk or rant or just be spontaneous, and I know that you are an amazing person for turning out the way you have rather than the way half of NY and NJ's population has. Not many people I've seen in a similar situation can compare the way they turned out to you.
Stay strong, Kay, and don't be afraid to roar at me once in a while when you really, really need to. :3
*gives brownies*

[Catch the Rain]

These are just questions for me to have a better view on things...


What would happen if you were to stop giving her money at all?


And if your mom starts yelling at you, whose side do/would they pick?

If I don't give her money then she gets seriously pissed, and angry and that is when she starts doing stuff like taking my things >_> and throwing stuff.
If she doesn't get it the day that I get paid then all hell breaks loose. That is partially why there was an argument tonight. I got paid today but I couldn't draw any money out because of a technical thingy at the machine ._.

When my mom starts on me they take my moms side. My older sister especially, see my older sister hates me just as much as my mom. Like she steals from me and is violent towards me too. She deliberately tries to cause **** between me and my mom. She told my mom I stole money but it was her who did it ._.

Here's a poem I made for you Kay, hope it's somewhat uplifting.

You cant restrain from feeling this pain,
It takes a while for respect to regain,
Seems to me that you're afraid,
But, don't let your hopes up because...
Your dreams are thoroughly laid.
Let them rest, for your own sake,

Someday,
You will journey through the days
To a lifetime, where nothing get's in your way
And you will never,
Be caught in in the blue,
Because all your dreams will finally come true...

Do you like it?



Thankyou <3 I do

I'm sorry for you :mellow: You needed to give vent to your sorrow. First thing I can say to you, is that die would not fix everything, though, maybe it could even worsen the things. You're thinking that if your mother hate you, if you die she would be happy, but it's not true, in fact, the hate thing is the consequence of the drug etc.
Then, I tied to look around, to understand why drunken people react like that, and the best thing I can say, is ignore her, because they enjoy when their "victim" react (Maybe becoming angry, or yelling or simply answering). So, if you don't react at her violence, she will not feel happy, she will not have a purpose and I think she will let you in peace :)

See I don't show her my reactions anymore because if she knows how to hurt me she does it over and over again, but, because she rarely gets an actual reaction out of me she does everything more agressive etc.

A couple of weeks ago I was really ill if some of you remember, well on one of the days my manager sent me home from work early because I was being sick and she was worried >_> my mom got really pissed at me because it meant I lost an hours pay.

I'm sure you can pull through eventauly. You always tell me that killing yourself is never the answer. Now I think it's time for you to take your own advice.

*hugs* I know hun ._.

[LongAndRandomUserNameFTW]

The only advice I can give you is that once you finishes college, try to avoid communication with your mother. I don't know if it'll work, but I can't really think of anything else.I agree with haseo. I think once you get out of college, you will have a job, you will get married and such. Once you get your own house, avoid communication with your mother and live a happy life. Maybe your mother will be a little nicer to you if you just avoid talking to her for a while.

[ArchVice]

I think you should cash in your chips and move away. The use of a guilt is just that, A USE! The fact that your own mother would such a foul tactic against you is a disgrace to motherhood. I know it's hard not to look back but sometimes in life you just have to. The constant verbal abuse is not healthy and the human will to survive will kick in sooner or later in your mom after you have been gone long enough. Trust me when I say that you need to stop being her crutch.

[RoxaSora2010]

A couple of weeks ago I was really ill if some of you remember, well on one of the days my manager sent me home from work early because I was being sick and she was worried >_> my mom got really pissed at me because it meant I lost an hours pay.

And that's the right way :) You don't never show her that you suffer when she do stuff to you, because she will just be encouraged and will be more "evil" to you, until she doesn't feel satisfied

[Deathsight44]

Lol. Np for the compliment. Really though, I mean, hell, no wonder everyone here likes you. People like you are really rare to meet in society these theys. Putting it in guys turn, I would most likely say that you've got more ballz then just about every guy friend I've got, lmao.


CTR, you have to understand though, you really should do what I suggested. The minute you get out of this university, then, face facts, you can leave that ***** behind in the dust. I know what people like her are like. If you let her shut down the internet, then hell, she is literally going to take the opportunity so she can make you fail. If you fail this year, then she willl do whatever she can to take advantage of you. I have dealt with scum bags like her before. Right now, she does not hold enough power. If she were to make any threats, then it is either a bluff, or it won't be enough to help her. Trust me. If you tell her what I told you to say to her, or at least after you came up for a plan to do it, then hell, she will have no choice. I mean, honostly, if you are unable to stay strong with it, then she will destroy you from the inside out as best she can.


Of course, it is only if she ends up taking away your internet. But CTR, right now is a good time to be thinking of whether or not you have to take extreme measures, because it is when you are at your highest when people will try to topple you, and at some point, you might have to go to such extreme measures as what I have informed you to do. You need to make this woman fear you more then you fear her. You are a strong person, and that compliment wasn't just for nothing. If you could survive what you have been going through, then even if u do bluff, she doesn't know it. If you say it the way that I say it, then she'll know that the only way she gets out of it is if you get your way. You just have to make sure that she thinks that u aren't the one that is gonna make the call, and that instead, if you don't call off ur friend, then her life will be screwed. Even if she says that she will tkae you down with her, I can gaurentee that at some point, she could easily crack and give into your demands

[Catch the Rain]

Okay, so I am not really sure as to what advice to give, but I will try my best. I know you have said that you tried to contact officials, but I belive maybe if you contacted child services they could help, if your little sister is becoming like her mother, oh I lost my train of thought... Also, I must say, you are a very strong person. I don't know if I could of taken the stuff you went through. I will be praying for you and your family, and I really hope that you can find a way through all of this, you are a very nice person and you do not deserve any of this.

I'm trying, I really really am ****ing trying, but damn 16 years is such a long time and it is really hard. Thanks <3

Maybe you should run away some day. If you could I would invite you to say with me at my house.

xD thank you that made me smile <3

You don't have to tell them anything. Just say you have to stay there for a while and you don't have to tell them about your mom. Just say something is wrong and you need to get out of the house for a while. No need for specifics.


>_> dude, what the hell other reason could I give? It would obviously be some form of family issue. xD my moms family are all really close. I would be better off living rough >_>

The only advice I can give you is that once you finishes college, try to avoid communication with your mother. I don't know if it'll work, but I can't really think of anything else.

I know, I can't wait for that <3 Only another year and then I can leave forever, but, she wont let me leave ._.

Is is possible to seek help from that angle again?
Is your mom still able to threaten you?

She tries to >_> she throws things at me, she once threw all my college books out in the rain because I pissed her off, stuff like that ._. I'm too old to phone child line >_>

*hugs*
Honestly Kay, I really would fly out to where you are and tell your mother what an awesome and successful person you are despite the way she treats you. Maybe having a completely random person burst in and rant at her will open her eyes. xD
You know that I am always here for you when you need to talk or rant or just be spontaneous, and I know that you are an amazing person for turning out the way you have rather than the way half of NY and NJ's population has. Not many people I've seen in a similar situation can compare the way they turned out to you.
Stay strong, Kay, and don't be afraid to roar at me once in a while when you really, really need to. :3
*gives brownies*

Thanks <3 that means a lot. lmao she would probably win you over, bake a cake and then when you leave kill me >_>

I agree with haseo. I think once you get out of college, you will have a job, you will get married and such. Once you get your own house, avoid communication with your mother and live a happy life. Maybe your mother will be a little nicer to you if you just avoid talking to her for a while.

But what if she is right? She has told me pretty much every day for the past 15 years that I wont be anything but a failure, what if shes right ._. maybe I am a ****ing waste of space

[Haseo]

I know, I can't wait for that <3 Only another year and then I can leave forever, but, she wont let me leave ._.
But she can't exactly make you stay, either. After all, you are a full-fledged adult, and have full rights.

[Stardust]

I know this probably won't help your situation much, but I have to say, from reading that first post, I respect you so much I can't even describe it. Seriously, you're obviously a very strong person, inside and out, to put up with someone so horrible and the people that she's caused to become like her as a result. I would never be able to handle this as well as you have.
I don't know how to help you at present but if this is your last year at University, then you'll be able to get a job and start a new life. Your mom has been nothing but hell to you all your life and she doesn't deserve all of the luxries you give to her. Again, I can't explain how much respect I got for you as a person just from reading that...Even though your family has been much more than just a thorn in your side since you were very young, you've lived through all of that and even helped them. Nobody deserves to go through all of that.
I truly hope everything improves for you soon...I know saying that won't do much, but that's all I can do, really. You only have one more year before you can hopefully begin a new life and meet new people, so just work towards that goal.

[VideoGameNerd246]

Your not a waste of space. So, don't worry. Your mom is like a bully and wants to see you doubt yourself just so that she can control you. You try and do your best and your more than likely gonna succeed. Your a strong woman, Kay and your mom doesn't want you to know that. So, go for it.

[Styx]

She tries to >_> she throws things at me, she once threw all my college books out in the rain because I pissed her off, stuff like that ._. I'm too old to phone child line >_>
I can't name one right off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are services for mistreated adults as well.

When my mom starts on me they take my moms side. My older sister especially, see my older sister hates me just as much as my mom. Like she steals from me and is violent towards me too. She deliberately tries to cause **** between me and my mom. She told my mom I stole money but it was her who did it ._.
I know you still love them, but I'd really look for another place for you to stay.
Maybe even just for a while? Maybe just long enough to make them realize what they did and how much they need you?

[RoxaSora2010]

Your not a waste of space. So, don't worry. Your mom is like a bully and wants to see you doubt yourself just so that she can control you. You try and do your best and your more than likely gonna succeed. Your a strong woman, Kay and your mom doesn't want you to know that. So, go for it.

Qft. She just do that to you 'cause she knows that you react at her, so you encourage her. She just enjoy doing that 'cause she also wants to see how you will react the next time.

[Catch the Rain]

I think you should cash in your chips and move away. The use of a guilt is just that, A USE! The fact that your own mother would such a foul tactic against you is a disgrace to motherhood. I know it's hard not to look back but sometimes in life you just have to. The constant verbal abuse is not healthy and the human will to survive will kick in sooner or later in your mom after you have been gone long enough. Trust me when I say that you need to stop being her crutch.

Dude I would need to save up for a couple of months to be able to move out, I can't afford to, especially when she takes as soon as I get ._. I know I need to stop being her crutch, but the rest of the family too, they always talk about how my mom needs me and **** :\ I swear my family is like the ****ing mafia, there is no escape :\

And that's the right way :) You don't never show her that you suffer when she do stuff to you, because she will just be encouraged and will be more "evil" to you, until she doesn't feel satisfied

She gets worse though to try and get a reaction >_> if something doesnt work she tries again harder.

Lol. Np for the compliment. Really though, I mean, hell, no wonder everyone here likes you. People like you are really rare to meet in society these theys. Putting it in guys turn, I would most likely say that you've got more ballz then just about every guy friend I've got, lmao.


CTR, you have to understand though, you really should do what I suggested. The minute you get out of this university, then, face facts, you can leave that ***** behind in the dust. I know what people like her are like. If you let her shut down the internet, then hell, she is literally going to take the opportunity so she can make you fail. If you fail this year, then she willl do whatever she can to take advantage of you. I have dealt with scum bags like her before. Right now, she does not hold enough power. If she were to make any threats, then it is either a bluff, or it won't be enough to help her. Trust me. If you tell her what I told you to say to her, or at least after you came up for a plan to do it, then hell, she will have no choice. I mean, honostly, if you are unable to stay strong with it, then she will destroy you from the inside out as best she can.


Of course, it is only if she ends up taking away your internet. But CTR, right now is a good time to be thinking of whether or not you have to take extreme measures, because it is when you are at your highest when people will try to topple you, and at some point, you might have to go to such extreme measures as what I have informed you to do. You need to make this woman fear you more then you fear her. You are a strong person, and that compliment wasn't just for nothing. If you could survive what you have been going through, then even if u do bluff, she doesn't know it. If you say it the way that I say it, then she'll know that the only way she gets out of it is if you get your way. You just have to make sure that she thinks that u aren't the one that is gonna make the call, and that instead, if you don't call off ur friend, then her life will be screwed. Even if she says that she will tkae you down with her, I can gaurentee that at some point, she could easily crack and give into your demands

You're right I know you are, but how the **** do you confront your mom like that? :\

and yay she's drunk again ._.

[Styx]

But what if she is right? She has told me pretty much every day for the past 15 years that I wont be anything but a failure, what if shes right ._. maybe I am a ****ing waste of space
She wants you to think that. Just because she repeats it time and time again doesn't mean that it's true. As far as I know you are most kind, strong and intelligent.

Dude I would need to save up for a couple of months to be able to move out
At a friend's from uni?

[RoxaSora2010]

She gets worse though to try and get a reaction >_> if something doesnt work she tries again harder.

Hmm, let me think to something..... Well, I think you should talk to her about everything when she's not drunk, 'cause she can reason

[ArchVice]

I never said it was going to be easy. If I was lived neer you, I would totaly open my home to you. This kind of thing makes me really sad. I wish thing like this didn't exist. Sadly, they do. I really think you should take a stand against this alcohol problem. See if you can rally some of your other family together and try an intervention.

[Catch the Rain]

But she can't exactly make you stay, either. After all, you are a full-fledged adult, and have full rights.

>_> yah by LAW I do, not a lot I can do when she takes my money and my stuff.

I know this probably won't help your situation much, but I have to say, from reading that first post, I respect you so much I can't even describe it. Seriously, you're obviously a very strong person, inside and out, to put up with someone so horrible and the people that she's caused to become like her as a result. I would never be able to handle this as well as you have.
I don't know how to help you at present but if this is your last year at University, then you'll be able to get a job and start a new life. Your mom has been nothing but hell to you all your life and she doesn't deserve all of the luxries you give to her. Again, I can't explain how much respect I got for you as a person just from reading that...Even though your family has been much more than just a thorn in your side since you were very young, you've lived through all of that and even helped them. Nobody deserves to go through all of that.
I truly hope everything improves for you soon...I know saying that won't do much, but that's all I can do, really. You only have one more year before you can hopefully begin a new life and meet new people, so just work towards that goal.

That is what is so frustrating, it is just one tiny little year and then I can escape and fly away, but she has been getting a lot worse, I will admit I am a little scared of how bad she is going to get :\

Your not a waste of space. So, don't worry. Your mom is like a bully and wants to see you doubt yourself just so that she can control you. You try and do your best and your more than likely gonna succeed. Your a strong woman, Kay and your mom doesn't want you to know that. So, go for it.

I'm trying man, I really really am trying.

I can't name one right off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are services for mistreated adults as well.


I know you still love them, but I'd really look for another place for you to stay.
Maybe even just for a while? Maybe just long enough to make them realize what they did and how much they need you?

I don't have anywhere

They would just see it as me abandoning them when they need me and stuff ._. I know that when I leave I wont ever be able to come back ._. it hurts knowing that you have to leave your family forever or they will destroy you :/

Qft. She just do that to you 'cause she knows that you react at her, so you encourage her. She just enjoy doing that 'cause she also wants to see how you will react the next time.

._. you're right. Maybe I am not strong enough :\

[RoxaSora2010]

._. you're right. Maybe I am not strong enough :\

:3 But you don't have to hurry the things. You have to repair the things slowly 'cause these situations need time and also a little strategy. First, I think you should talk to her when she's not drunk, then don't react (Or at least, don't react like she wants) and try to be careful to don't provoke her though. So, you have to be psychologically ready to resist at her insults etc. because, like you said, she's aiming at your mind, so you have to prepare yourself

[Deathsight44]

Hate to say it CTR, but you have to plan it on. I hate to say it myself, but, I take joy in manipulation and being able to figure out peoples minds. Putting on acts, seeing how people react, and it is becuz of this knowledge that maybe I can help you out (think of that manipulative side as a darker side to me)

For starters, you have to do it as if ur shocked. The minute ur internet is taken down, then you have to rush down there, and you have to be pissed off. You have to look scary, you have to look absolutely enraged. You have to make it almost look as if you are sinking down to her level. The minute you yell at her, she will either A. Yell back, or B. Snicker and say something as if she is in control.

If she goes with A, then you have to react as if you are even more pissed off, and say what I told you to say to her as if you are pissed off. You ahve to get so into it, that you trick yourself into becoming pissed and really saying it.

If she does B, then you have to make it look like you are resorting to her level. You make it seem like she has all the power, and then you have to lauph. You have to lauph at her, and then you reveal it. You have to make her feel like she is pathetic, powerless. You must crush her mentally into believing that she is in a spot where she cannot escape, and by committing the usual action, she will do nothing but plunge herself into utter hell.


if she dares make any threats which you feel concnered about too, then you should in fact force yourself to tell a few friends to go along with this plan. In doing so, you can ensure that no matter what she does, even if she does make her silly threats, she will do nothing but plunge herself into an utter hell which she cannot escape. Where the rest of her life will be lived out, all by her own self, having nothing to do.
Not for nothing, but through my years of learning manipulation, I find the best way to deal with these people is to plunge them into situations which will make them go through utter torment. Think of it as a way to inform her that if she does not follow ur orders, then you will plunge her life into utter living hell, and that you at the moment are the one that controls the power.


You really would have to mentally prepare yourself for this kind of a thing to, ya know

[Catch the Rain]

She wants you to think that. Just because she repeats it time and time again doesn't mean that it's true. As far as I know you are most kind, strong and intelligent.

At a friend's from uni?

If something is repeated over and over eventually you start to believe it, >_> she tells me I am ugly all the time, she says stuff like "why couldn't all of my daughters be pretty" and stuff, see my sisters are really pretty >_> and she always says I dont work hard enough.

I stayed at a friends for a weekend once >_> I came back and had to get a lot of my stuff out the trash because she had thrown it. If I go I have to go forever.

Hmm, let me think to something..... Well, I think you should talk to her about everything when she's not drunk, 'cause she can reason

>_> I have tried talking to her when she was sober, I try to avoid her when she is drunk, especially when she is drunk like she is now. She's been drinking vodka tonight and that always makes her angry.

I never said it was going to be easy. If I was lived neer you, I would totaly open my home to you. This kind of thing makes me really sad. I wish thing like this didn't exist. Sadly, they do. I really think you should take a stand against this alcohol problem. See if you can rally some of your other family together and try an intervention.

The rest of my family take my moms side >_> I used to water down my moms alcohol when I was younger xD; thinking that if it wasnt so strong then she wouldnt get as drunk >___> not the smartes decision I ever made...

[Mehgahtraun]

I'm sorry, but your mom is completely ignorant when it comes to this situation. My mom is the same way. My advice is stay on her good side and she won't bug you. I'm the best manipulator in the world. I just have the good life I guess.

[Styx]

it hurts knowing that you have to leave your family forever or they will destroy you :/
Maybe I am not strong enough :\
I think you love her/them too much. Whether romantic or familial, one-sided love always hurts. A lot.
I don't think there's anything we can say that would change that.

But I think one moment is all you need. One moment of intense anger, preferably when she doesn't see it coming, that lets out every grudge against her at once. One moment when you simply forget about blood ties and think about how you were mistreated for so long.
A good fit of rage, that's what you need.

[Catch the Rain]

I'm sorry, but your mom is completely ignorant when it comes to this situation. My mom is the same way. My advice is stay on her good side and she won't bug you. I'm the best manipulator in the world. I just have the good life I guess.

Dude, she has no good side where I am concerned >_> I'm like devil spawn, hell she would blame me for global warming if she could.

I think you love her/them too much. Whether romantic or familial, one-sided love always hurts. A lot.
I don't think there's anything we can say that would change that.

But I think one moment is all you need. One moment of intense anger, preferably when she doesn't see it coming, that lets out every grudge against her at once. One moment when you simply forget about blood ties and think about how you were mistreated for so long.
A good fit of rage, that's what you need.

>_> I am kind of really scared of rage bursting at my mom >_> she can be really ****ing agressive >_>

<_< I snapped at her once and she called me an ungrateful little ***** and said I should be thankful she lets me live under her roof xD; ironic right?

Yes I do love my family a lot. They treat me like **** and they make my life hell, but family is family ._. I just wish I knew why they don't love me

[/lame]

[Styx]

>_> I am kind of really scared of rage bursting at my mom >_> she can be really ****ing agressive >_>
You may not believe me, but after a fit of rage I'll bet she's at the very least just as scared of you.

They treat me like **** and they make my life hell, but family is family ._.
It's just a bunch a genes you have in common really. I know it's hard to approach it like that, but a blood relationship doesn't really force you to feel anything.

[O R A N G E]

I can honestly say I have no clue of what to say here, as I've grown up in a stable environment. My parents were together up until last year n' I've never been hit like that. I feel horrible when I read things like this, I just want someone to hug you and never let go, CtR, I couldn't imagine what I'd do if my life was like that.

[Catch the Rain]

You may not believe me, but after a fit of rage I'll bet she's at the very least just as scared of you.

Sorry for being so pessimistic >.< but I really think that if I react with anger it will make it worse, what if she reacts the wrong way and comletely loses it?



It's just a bunch a genes you have in common really. I know it's hard to approach it like that, but a blood relationship doesn't really force you to feel anything.

I was brought up that family was everything (yes I am aware of the irony) I can't think of them as just a bunch of genes. >.< sorry

I can honestly say I have no clue of what to say here, as I've grown up in a stable environment. My parents were together up until last year n' I've never been hit like that. I feel horrible when I read things like this, I just want someone to hug you and never let go, CtR, I couldn't imagine what I'd do if my life was like that.


*hugs* Hun I am GLAD you don't know what it is like.

[ArchVice]

You should get a camcorder to make a video of her drunkeness and show it to her when she is sober.

[Styx]

Sorry for being so pessimistic
Don't apologize. You're the one who knows what's going on in your life more than anyone of course.

but I really think that if I react with anger it will make it worse, what if she reacts the wrong way and comletely loses it?
In any case, I was talking about the kind of fury that makes you completely lose it. It might happen. You're only human.
It's not something you choose to do.
But maybe it will conclude it all. It's hard to say how it will end, but it is likely that, after that intense moment, it will end.

I was brought up that family was everything (yes I am aware of the irony) I can't think of them as just a bunch of genes. >.< sorry
It's okay, that's who you are. But truth be told, it does make things a bit more complicated. However you are not to blame for that at all.

[Catch the Rain]

You should get a camcorder to make a video of her drunkeness and show it to her when she is sober.

She's evil when she is sober too >_> she is just more so when she is under the influence >_<

Don't apologize. You're the one who knows what's going on in your life more than anyone of course.

In any case, I was talking about the kind of fury that makes you completely lose it. It might happen. You're only human.
It's not something you choose to do.
But maybe it will conclude it all. It's hard to say how it will end, but it is likely that, after that intense moment, it will end.

It's okay, that's who you are. But truth be told, it does make things a bit more complicated. However you are not to blame for that at all.

I know :\ they don't deserve my loyalty, my respect or my love ._. I keep hunting through my memories for happy ones, thinking maybe it isn't so bad, and whilst there were happy moments, tears far outweigh smiles.

I wish I could let go.

[Styx]

She's evil when she is sober too >_> she is just more so when she is under the influence >_<
About that (hidden) camcorder...If that's a real option than you could still do it. Not to show it to her, but to "fight back". Threaten to tell her co-workers or something.

[Repliku]

I don't hate anyone, I never have never will. It isn't in my nature, but

I really, majorly and seriously, hate my mom, I hate her in every sense of the word.

Ever since I was a tiny child she has made my life hell, you see, when I was 5 my father walked out and left my mom to look after me and my two sisters alone. My mom has for some reason always blamed me for this. She started drinking a lot and she got really depressed, she used to just spend all day in bed, take in mind I was like 5/6 at this stage. She got a new job and then she dumped me and my little sister in this like club thing all the time so that she didn't have to look after us. We hardly ever used to see her and when we did she just used to yell at me all the time.

When I was like 6 my mom started hitting me all the time, at the slightest little tiny thing she would go into a huge fit and start going mental at me, I remember once she kicked me so hard that she nearly bruised the bone. I was always covered in bruises and stuff but I used to tell people that I just fell over. I was a kid, I'm sure they didn't believe me but whatever. This carried on for a long time, and the older I got the more I had to do.

By the time I was like 8 I was running the house, I did all the cleaning, all of the laundry, I did the ironing and the cooking, I did the shopping and I was the one who used to go pay the bills, which meant going into the city and stuff. My mom was still drinking a lot, she used to do a lot of drugs too, but she would wait until my little sister had gone to bed. See she never was horrible to my little sister which I seriously ****ing glad about :3 and my older sister in all honesty was a complete ****, she would skip school, steal, do drugs, get drunk and she would **** around, but my mom would get at her and take it out on me.

Every time my mom had a bad day then she would blame me, every time something went wrong she would blame me. I remember once my little sister broke a plate or something and my mom pretty much punched me in the face and said it was my fault or not watching my sister properly.

I used to get bullied at school a lot and my mom would just say it was what i deserved because I was a waste of ****ing space. She would tell me that a lot, that I was nothing but a waste of space. She still tells me that now.

My mom lost her job, she started drinking again ALL the time and she was always really angry, I remeber once she was really pissed so I hid in my room, I heard her coming up the stairs so I blocked the door, I remember screaming at her to leave me alone and she pretty much bust my door open and beat the hell out of me just because she was in a bad mood.

We moved to where I live now when I was like 12. My mom stopped hitting me so much but she was still really horrible to me, she would insult me all the time, call me ugly, tell me I was fat and stupid and tell me I was a waste of everything. I remember that one day she hit me really hard and I smacked my head on a wall, I just looked at her in the eyes and didnt cry, she slapped me again and I still idnt cry, just turned around and walked away. After that she always made sure when she hurt me that she hurt me emotionally and mentally. I was still having to do everything at home, I was still doing all the cleaning etc and I was still looking after my little sister. I pretty much ****ing raised my little sister :\

Anyways, a bunch of **** happened at school that I dont want to go into. Needless to say I was a very angry kid. I used to self harm a lot, pathetic I know, Istill have faint scars on my right arm from when I used to cut it. Someone told her once, a teacher I think, was worried about me so told my mom. My mom yelled at me and said I was an embarrassment, she said if I was going to do that sort of **** to make sure I cut the right place next time.

I worked my ass off at school because I was determined to escape, I got fantastic grades in year11, but they werent good enough for her. I got As and she wanted A stars. I learnt at a very young age to keep a smile on my face always, I did well in drama for reason xD

As soon as I turned 16 that was when she started yelling all the time for me to get a job because if I was going to be staying at home then I better start paying my way. Since I was 16 my mom has not paid for anything for me. I even pay for my own food a lot of the time. She takes over half of my wages a month, and I only work part time you know :\ the rest of the time I am at University studying. She even yells at me about that and says that I am going to **** it all up and be a failure. She always threatens me, says if I dont do what she wants that she will do stuff like throw all my stuff out. I remeber she once took my laptop off me for 2 weeks :\ I ended up having to rush assignments when I finally got it back. She also disconnects the internet (even though I ****ing pay for it) and I need to be online in order to do a LOT of my research. She doesn't care though.

She once said she thinks I should drop out so I can work full time and give her more money because she spent 16 years raising me and blah blah blah.

Lately she has beenr eally bad. The other night she threw a glass at me and called me a *****, I don't even know what that was about. Every single night she yells at me for something. Tonight she yelled at me because I wanted lasagna and she wanted something different.

My little sister doesn't have a job, and my mom uses a lot of her money for cigarettes and drinking. She adores my older sister though. She gives my older sister money a lot and paid for her house to be decorated, but, the money my mom gave my sister, I then had to give my mom more money from my wages to cover it. I was meant to take my driving test like 6 months ago but I had to lend my mom the money I had saved for driving lessons because she wanted to pay off my older sisters debts (yes my older sister is in debt and I am pretty much paying it off).

Tonight my mom started yelling because she said I don't give her enough money, I said I give her what I can and I need the rest to be able to survive, she started yelling and going all mad and stuff, saying I was lying and I waste my money when I should be giving it to her, and then she started saying I was being selfish because if I dont give her money it means my neice and nephew are missing out (Yeah I didnt get that either). At the moment I am pretty much raising my neice and nephew too ._. my older sister is like always drunk or high or asleep and she wont even play with the kids. So it is down to me to look after them.

My mom said tonight that she is disconnecting my internet for good, that she doesnt give a **** about college because it isnt her problem, but get this, she still wants the money that I give for the internet as extra each month.

When I was 18 i tried to escape, I was going to go to University in Wales and move out ._. but she laid one hell of a guilt trip on me saying that she needed me and all this **** and I fell for it, but if I leave then I know her and my sisters wouldnt be able to cope. The house would be a mess and they wouldnt eat right ._. plus they would have a lot less money.

I just, I don't know what to do anymore. I can't keep doing this.

Sometimes I seriosuly wish I would actually die because that has got to be better than this hell of a life. There are a lot of other things I could say too, but what's the point ._.

I hate my mom. I just wish I knew why she hated me so much.

As I've told you before, Kay, you need to move out. Keep looking for someone to live with and try to get out of there. The situation will not change and get better and by moving out you will help yourself and your family too. They need to grow up. Your older sister and younger sister need to work and do more. Your mother needs to get back to reality. You leaving so they can't take your money would be the best thing for them to learn to not use you anymore. You also need the sanity and peace of mind. Please, for your benefit, try to find a friend or somewhere you can go to share a room with someone who attends college too. I hope things get better for you but having been raised in a very similar situation I can tell you that the only way to change things is to get away and let them learn on their own and you do what you need to for yourself. It's not selfish to do so whether they try to guilt you or not. They are able bodied and need to start doing things right. Please heed my advice here and try really hard to move out as you are not a teen now and really do not have to put up with that treatment.

Also, if you don't want to do that, and she's threatening to take your internet away, pay her much less. Seriously, you have to stand up to this woman and if she's going to threaten you, she has to face reality sooner or later and know that you are the one paying a majority of the bills. If she takes away the internet you have a weapon. In the end though, I would seriously just try to find college students to room with if you can and you might be able to get some extra work perhaps at the college itself if you need a few more hours to make ends meet. It's what I had to do on top of the job I worked and even though it was more time spent at work etc, it was less time dealing with an unruly mother who was nuts.

[Catch the Rain]

About that (hidden) camcorder...If that's a real option than you could still do it. Not to show it to her, but to "fight back". Threaten to tell her co-workers or something.

This is going to sound so retarded,

my mother she treats me like ****, even as I am typing this she is screaming and yelling >_> I want to be able to escape, but I don't want to ruin her life >.<

Yes I know I am pathetic and lame, lately this whole thing has got me so down that it is affecting everything else too. I keep pissing friends off because they can't deal with me and other people keep accusing me of not being there for them and ****, see normally people come to ME for advice and when they need help but lately I can't even focus on anything.

I need to say sorry to so many people because I keep making everything worse.

Jesus ****ing christ I cant do it, lmfao I cannot take another ****ing year of this XDDDDDD

and now I am laughing and crying and but it doesnt matter does it. It wont change anything ._.

My mom will always hate me and I will never be able to do whats right.

[Deathsight44]

CTR, you read my last post, right? Just wondering.......(sry if this is an annoying post)

[Repliku]

Kay...my mom hates me too and beat on me and did all sorts of things to me. You've got to stop thinking you can make things right by enduring that behavior from her. She is mentally unstable and has anxiety. You've got to move out and move on. Seriously. :/ You are only hurting yourself if you continue to endure this punishment and you are going to just let her threaten you and take away something that makes you happy while she sucks away your money? Think on it. It makes no sense.

[Styx]

I want to be able to escape, but I don't want to ruin her life >.<
I see. Well it wasn't really meant to do that. It was just to put you in a better position or something like that.

Yes I know I am pathetic and lame, lately this whole thing has got me so down that it is affecting everything else too.
Don't blame yourself for the harm other people cause you. It's only natural to feel bad when you're mistreated.

other people keep accusing me of not being there for them and ****
You have your own problems to deal with after all.

see normally people come to ME for advice and when they need help Which shows how great they think you are. See?
You're not a waste of space at all. On the contrary.
Your potential is thinned out because of what other people do to you, and still your kindness shines.

I need to say sorry to so many people because I keep making everything worse.
If they'd know and believed you, then no sane person would ever accuse you. You're a victim, not a culprit.

[gintasthebest]

She's evil when she is sober too >_> she is just more so when she is under the influence >_<



I know :\ they don't deserve my loyalty, my respect or my love ._. I keep hunting through my memories for happy ones, thinking maybe it isn't so bad, and whilst there were happy moments, tears far outweigh smiles.

I wish I could let go.


You need to learn to let go and stay with someone else or something. If I could, I would let you stay at my house.

[Catch the Rain]

Thanks guys,

You have all really helped me a lot tonight, I feel so much ****ing better just for getting everything out.

Thank you all for trying to cheer me up and giving me advice and stuff

ilu all <3

[gintasthebest]

Thanks guys,

You have all really helped me a lot tonight, I feel so much ****ing better just for getting everything out.

Thank you all for trying to cheer me up and giving me advice and stuff

ilu all <3

You're welcome. You made me feel a lot better a lot of times. I'm just glad I could help you for once.

[Ghillie in the Mist]

CtR...

:glomp:

and a

:kiss:

You told me you were having family issues but I never imagined it would be this bad.

You're amazing, don'y let the world drag you down. If you have anything important to tell me you can always PM. I am good at being a listening ear...

And I'm never more than a few keystrokes away through MSN. I really do care about your well being... I'm sorry all this crap is happening to such a sweet person. Let me know if you ever need someone to cheer you up. I can be as funnny as Absol if need be...

Let me know if you need someone to cry with, let me know... I can cry like Yazoo if need be... Take care sweatheart. I hope your situation changes for nothing but the better. You will be in my prayers.

[Revelry]

wow...we're all used to you taking charge and stuff its hard seeing a superhero like you all down. I think if we all cheer you up and help you out though like we've been doing now, we can come close to the way you've helped us with our problems.

Do other people know about this? About your problem? Like close friends? Perhaps you can get them to babysit your siblings so that you can work without having to worry about taking care of them...

I really don't know what to say about your mom...shes terrible, and thats the understatement of the century. I think you should try to distance yourself as best as possible. Not like leave the house, but, well, since your older I'm assuming she hits you less...I think if you're non-confrontational and things start to simmer down between you and her then keep with that. If more problems arise or she keeps calling you insults don't be afraid and stand up, we know you can. You know you can. If you're strong then you're mom can't hurt you, even if its just pretending to be.

[P]

Hey, you say that you cannot escape without cash, right?

Well why not take out a loan from the bank? You have a job and such, so taking a loan should be no problem.

Then you can leave after giving your mother her weekly money. Pack your stuff when she is out and just leave. Sure, then they will be without you, but the fact of the matter is that they have their family. After all, if the family takes her side, why not let them support her? What's more, the guilt trip cannot be done, as you will leave when she is out.

[Rosey]

**** WHY WASNT I HERE EARLIER.

Kay I need to talk to you on MSN about this. I love you sissy, i love you so much, just hang in there for me

[EvilMan_89]

i really don't know what to say. i've never been in this situation or known anyone with such a bad deal. i think the advice to get a bank loan is a good idea and living away from home is as well. you should get a place that has security or at least a receptionist at the front, you know, to keep your family away when you don't want to see them. but i really don't have any useful advice, all i can say is: good luck.

[RoxaSora2010]

Thanks guys,

You have all really helped me a lot tonight, I feel so much ****ing better just for getting everything out.

Thank you all for trying to cheer me up and giving me advice and stuff

ilu all <3

Lol, that's nothing :3 Just remember that if you need help there's always someone to help you ;D

[Misty]

Like some of the others have said, I don't know what to say. You're an amazing person, and I don't even know you as well as some other people here do. You really need to get away from this woman, though. I greatly admire your love for this woman who has done nothing but treat you like **** for your entire life, and how you feel that you must be loyal to her because she is your family, but think about it -- to me, a family is a group of people that love and support you however they can -- does she really fit that description? She steals from you, beats you, and emotionally crippled you throughout your childhood.

Like someone said, just take out a loan and get away. Find a friend that would be willing to put you up for awhile, WHATEVER. But you need to get out of there.

My love goes to you. If I could, I'd welcome you into my home. <3

[Chevalier]

kay, i would also welcome you into my house...(except im kind of messy)

but with all jokes aside, if someone ruined her life, it was her.

and your good-for -nothing sisters, are just rotten.

you are strong and i respect you even more now.

your mother , nor your sisters deserve you.

so they are pretty?

if thats all they got going for them, then they are some sad good-for -nothings.


you really need to prepare, since your mother takes your stuff, you shouldn't really leave important things in her sight.

and if you need to leave, at least have a bag always ready, to leave quickly.

[tSG1]

I don't hate anyone, I never have never will. It isn't in my nature, but

I really, majorly and seriously, hate my mom, I hate her in every sense of the word.

Ever since I was a tiny child she has made my life hell, you see, when I was 5 my father walked out and left my mom to look after me and my two sisters alone. My mom has for some reason always blamed me for this. She started drinking a lot and she got really depressed, she used to just spend all day in bed, take in mind I was like 5/6 at this stage. She got a new job and then she dumped me and my little sister in this like club thing all the time so that she didn't have to look after us. We hardly ever used to see her and when we did she just used to yell at me all the time.

When I was like 6 my mom started hitting me all the time, at the slightest little tiny thing she would go into a huge fit and start going mental at me, I remember once she kicked me so hard that she nearly bruised the bone. I was always covered in bruises and stuff but I used to tell people that I just fell over. I was a kid, I'm sure they didn't believe me but whatever. This carried on for a long time, and the older I got the more I had to do.

By the time I was like 8 I was running the house, I did all the cleaning, all of the laundry, I did the ironing and the cooking, I did the shopping and I was the one who used to go pay the bills, which meant going into the city and stuff. My mom was still drinking a lot, she used to do a lot of drugs too, but she would wait until my little sister had gone to bed. See she never was horrible to my little sister which I seriously ****ing glad about :3 and my older sister in all honesty was a complete ****, she would skip school, steal, do drugs, get drunk and she would **** around, but my mom would get at her and take it out on me.

Every time my mom had a bad day then she would blame me, every time something went wrong she would blame me. I remember once my little sister broke a plate or something and my mom pretty much punched me in the face and said it was my fault or not watching my sister properly.

I used to get bullied at school a lot and my mom would just say it was what i deserved because I was a waste of ****ing space. She would tell me that a lot, that I was nothing but a waste of space. She still tells me that now.

My mom lost her job, she started drinking again ALL the time and she was always really angry, I remeber once she was really pissed so I hid in my room, I heard her coming up the stairs so I blocked the door, I remember screaming at her to leave me alone and she pretty much bust my door open and beat the hell out of me just because she was in a bad mood.

We moved to where I live now when I was like 12. My mom stopped hitting me so much but she was still really horrible to me, she would insult me all the time, call me ugly, tell me I was fat and stupid and tell me I was a waste of everything. I remember that one day she hit me really hard and I smacked my head on a wall, I just looked at her in the eyes and didnt cry, she slapped me again and I still idnt cry, just turned around and walked away. After that she always made sure when she hurt me that she hurt me emotionally and mentally. I was still having to do everything at home, I was still doing all the cleaning etc and I was still looking after my little sister. I pretty much ****ing raised my little sister :\

Anyways, a bunch of **** happened at school that I dont want to go into. Needless to say I was a very angry kid. I used to self harm a lot, pathetic I know, Istill have faint scars on my right arm from when I used to cut it. Someone told her once, a teacher I think, was worried about me so told my mom. My mom yelled at me and said I was an embarrassment, she said if I was going to do that sort of **** to make sure I cut the right place next time.

I worked my ass off at school because I was determined to escape, I got fantastic grades in year11, but they werent good enough for her. I got As and she wanted A stars. I learnt at a very young age to keep a smile on my face always, I did well in drama for reason xD

As soon as I turned 16 that was when she started yelling all the time for me to get a job because if I was going to be staying at home then I better start paying my way. Since I was 16 my mom has not paid for anything for me. I even pay for my own food a lot of the time. She takes over half of my wages a month, and I only work part time you know :\ the rest of the time I am at University studying. She even yells at me about that and says that I am going to **** it all up and be a failure. She always threatens me, says if I dont do what she wants that she will do stuff like throw all my stuff out. I remeber she once took my laptop off me for 2 weeks :\ I ended up having to rush assignments when I finally got it back. She also disconnects the internet (even though I ****ing pay for it) and I need to be online in order to do a LOT of my research. She doesn't care though.

She once said she thinks I should drop out so I can work full time and give her more money because she spent 16 years raising me and blah blah blah.

Lately she has beenr eally bad. The other night she threw a glass at me and called me a *****, I don't even know what that was about. Every single night she yells at me for something. Tonight she yelled at me because I wanted lasagna and she wanted something different.

My little sister doesn't have a job, and my mom uses a lot of her money for cigarettes and drinking. She adores my older sister though. She gives my older sister money a lot and paid for her house to be decorated, but, the money my mom gave my sister, I then had to give my mom more money from my wages to cover it. I was meant to take my driving test like 6 months ago but I had to lend my mom the money I had saved for driving lessons because she wanted to pay off my older sisters debts (yes my older sister is in debt and I am pretty much paying it off).

Tonight my mom started yelling because she said I don't give her enough money, I said I give her what I can and I need the rest to be able to survive, she started yelling and going all mad and stuff, saying I was lying and I waste my money when I should be giving it to her, and then she started saying I was being selfish because if I dont give her money it means my neice and nephew are missing out (Yeah I didnt get that either). At the moment I am pretty much raising my neice and nephew too ._. my older sister is like always drunk or high or asleep and she wont even play with the kids. So it is down to me to look after them.

My mom said tonight that she is disconnecting my internet for good, that she doesnt give a **** about college because it isnt her problem, but get this, she still wants the money that I give for the internet as extra each month.

When I was 18 i tried to escape, I was going to go to University in Wales and move out ._. but she laid one hell of a guilt trip on me saying that she needed me and all this **** and I fell for it, but if I leave then I know her and my sisters wouldnt be able to cope. The house would be a mess and they wouldnt eat right ._. plus they would have a lot less money.

I just, I don't know what to do anymore. I can't keep doing this.

Sometimes I seriosuly wish I would actually die because that has got to be better than this hell of a life. There are a lot of other things I could say too, but what's the point ._.

I hate my mom. I just wish I knew why she hated me so much.

Wow. Your mom is seriously a*** retentive. since she was hitting you since you were young, then you should just report to the police. At least then she can go to jail for child abuse. If not, then maybe you should try searching for your dad. Maybe he could help then. I'm not sure this helps or not.
i feel for you now. for you to put up with this must have taken a hella lot of paitence. hang in there.

[fireflame]

man, i feel sorry for you, having a mother like that, it's just not right. Just leave and go live with a friend until you get the money to buy your own place. And if your mother tries to stop you, then tell her that you're tired of the **** that she put you through your entire life and nobody can stop you leaving, then say that she can deal with it.

[Banana Split]

If anyone ever acted like that to me for 16 years, I would seriously like **** them up there and then and leave the house.

Rent a studio apartment or something, and remember to make your mom pay her house ****. You're too nice, get a bit *****y plox.

[Prince_of_Hearts]

*Hugs* I'm sorry for you. I can't even imagine why she would do such a horrible thing like that. Pay for her? That's way off the track. But just remember, when your parents are mean to you no matter what, it's never your fault.

[Destined]

**** Kay. I have so much more respect for you for enduring and fighting through this. I would say its empty nest syndrom but that seems to only be geared towards the first borns. I've told you countless times that you are a beautiful woman with a heart of gold and now I can honestly say that you are one of the strongest people that I know.

I said it before and i'll say it again, I wish the Atlantic was only a lake.

[The Fifth Element]

Well now I'm pretending that I'm in your position....and my advice?





Love her. She is your mother and there is some underlying cause for this behavior. Physically she should love you, it is a hormone release that makes her want to protect you so she must really be going against the grain. I think that (excuse me for saying this) your father probably told her he loved her and built up her trust... and when he left it made her question of he really meant it. It made her wonder if you really meant it when you said it. And she couldn't figure out why he left. She didn't want to deal with it so she turned to blame someone, and from what you tell me your sisters are more stubborn and mean while you were kind and more timid... making you the perfect target, a scapegoat. She told herself this for so long that her mind(which was probably in the remains of shock) accepted this theory so now she actually believes it. She got into the drugs and the first time she hit you it was probably not pre-meditated, but when she saw that it worked she just kept doing it. Then it all went down from there.

Anyway my advice to you would be to sit her down when she has nothing else to do, lie to get her to sit with you(say that there is a problem with the bill or something like that). Once she is there tell her you love her and hug her if you can. If she asks what is going then just ask her if she loves you. If she says yes then ask her(GENTLY GENTLY) why she would hit you. If she says no ask why. Basically from there its up to you.

That's just what I think.

[Prince_of_Hearts]

Well now I'm pretending that I'm in your position....and my advice?





Love her. She is your mother and there is some underlying cause for this behavior. Physically she should love you, it is a hormone release that makes her want to protect you so she must really be going against the grain. I think that (excuse me for saying this) your father probably told her he loved her and built up her trust... and when he left it made her question of he really meant it. It made her wonder if you really meant it when you said it. And she couldn't figure out why he left. She didn't want to deal with it so she turned to blame someone, and from what you tell me your sisters are more stubborn and mean while you were kind and more timid... making you the perfect target, a scapegoat. She told herself this for so long that her mind(which was probably in the remains of shock) accepted this theory so now she actually believes it. She got into the drugs and the first time she hit you it was probably not pre-meditated, but when she saw that it worked she just kept doing it. Then it all went down from there.

Anyway my advice to you would be to sit her down when she has nothing else to do, lie to get her to sit with you(say that there is a problem with the bill or something like that). Once she is there tell her you love her and hug her if you can. If she asks what is going then just ask her if she loves you. If she says yes then ask her(GENTLY GENTLY) why she would hit you. If she says no ask why. Basically from there its up to you.

That's just what I think.No offence, but the hitting will not make her talk to her mom if not mistaken. I don't think telling her that you love her is not going to work. I mean, she's been beaten when she was 6!

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No offence, but the hitting will not make her talk to her mom if not mistaken. I don't think telling her that you love her is not going to work. I mean, she's been beaten when she was 6!

No Offense taken :D Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I must politely reply that it isn't as if she can fight fire with fire, so to speak. Obviously yelling and screaming hasn't helped so why not try this? She has nothing to lose so she might as well.