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  1. Toshi Banned

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    Let a = b.
    Then we multiply by "a" both sides:
    a^2 = ab.
    We add a^2:
    a^2 + a^2 = a^2 + ab <=>
    2a^2 = a^2 + ab
    Minus 2ab:
    2a^2 - 2ab = a^2 + ab - 2ab <=>
    2a^2 - 2ab = a^2 - ab
    This can also be written as:
    2(a^2 - ab)=1(a^2 - ab)
    and cancelling (a^2 - ab) from both sides gives us:

    2 = 1

    Can you find the mistake?
     
  2. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    I'm not going to respond to this Post because i'm in the RP zone lol!but if i was here i'd say i don't know.I like your new problematic posts angle toshi.It's better than your racist jokes angle.
     
  3. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    Hmm, that's hard >_< But I think that's the error (Underlined). There isn't a "-2ab", there's just an "a^2" + "ab", the same thing that we have in red. So, if a "2a^2" is equal of an "a^2" + "ab", at the end, in blue, I think there's not a "-", but a "+", so:

    2(a^2 - ab)=2(a^2 + ab)

    I think that the "-2ab" there isn't.
     
  4. Toshi Banned

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    Actually, no. There is nothing wrong with what you have underlined, I deduct (I'm not sure if that's the right word; you know, remove, minus.) "2ab" from both sides not only from the first. You can't do anything only in one side, you must do it in both.
     
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    Uhh.... 2 doesnt equal 1 =P
    *Too lazy to think*
     
  6. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    Aah, ok XP I will try again later :)
     
  7. Ashwa <3 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    You can't cancel with (a^2-ab) because thats the same thing in the equation. To cancel it out, it would have to be (-a^2+ab) or something like that.

    Right...?
     
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    Nope... I cancel them because they're the same. If I divide by (a^2-ab) both sides, the first side will have 2*1 and the second side will have 1*1. Thus 2 = 1
     
  9. Ashwa <3 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    hmmm....

    Then when you said 2a^2-2ab= a^2-ab can also be written as 2(a^2-ab)=1(a^2-ab) is wrong because to get the 2 and the 1 you have to factor those out of the equation. And you didn't factor it out properly. On the first half, 2a can be factored out of 2a^2 and 2ab while you only factored out a 2.

    So technically it would be a-b.

    Then a can be factored out of the second part so it would be a-b

    Which means the thing would be a-b=a-b

    o.o Thats too much math and its probably wrong =/
     
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    Dude. 2ab=2a^2.
     
  11. Toshi Banned

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    Nope. There's no need to factor everything that can be factored. I factored only 2, which can be done.

    Not exactly, but close. There's nothing wrong with this. In one step I did something that cannot happen.
    I hope you've found it by the time I come back tomorrow.
     
  12. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    What I meant was. When you subtracted you left it like this:

    2a^2 - 2ab = a^2 - ab

    Not cool. 2a^2=2ab thus 2a^2 - 2ab = 0 and a^2 - ab = 0 also, because a=b so a^2=ab meaning your last step was entirely fucked.
     
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    This thread is awesome. It's another mindgasm for me.
     
  14. Ashwa <3 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Yay for mindgasming 8D
    Dude, I remember that now. =]]]
     
  15. Toshi Banned

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    But what is forbidden there? Can you tell?
     
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    i think its that A and B cane equal the same thing other wise it would be a^2 = a squared...
     
  17. Toshi Banned

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    It's true but that has nothing to do with the fallacy.
    C'mon guys you're almost there, do some logical thinking and you'll find the mistake.
     
  18. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    Okay. If you need me to say it explicitly. You have a 2 and a 1 in front of zeroes in your last step. You say you can nix the zeroes that are multiplying the 1 and 2. The 2 and 1 shouldn't even be there because it's proven that the two are 0=0 the step before meaning it's over there. That's what I said last time. So 0=0 =/= 1=2. Is that specific enough?
     
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  20. Toshi Banned

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    Yes, very specific but even though, I proved that 1=2. Why should your thinking be true and not mine? You're right but you haven't stated clearly what forbidden step I did. It's the most forbidden thing in maths. Know what I'm saying?
    You've said the 99% of the answer but you're stuck in there!
     
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