Ultimate Keyblade

ok, so I was just thinking about the differences between the Ultimate Keyblade in KHI and KHII, and here's what I thought. How is it that Sora gets the different keyblades from others, and yet these moogles in Traverse Town just happen to know how to make the strongest keyblade of all? If they could have done that, why didn't they do it in the first place? And, what does making every other thing in the shop have to do with making it as well? If you have the right materials, why not make it? I know it's meant to be hard to get, but this is rediculous. At least in KHII they let you get it whenever you got the right materials

 

Well, my guess would be that the more Sora synthesizes, the more experience they gain; therefore, they can eventually make a strong weapon.

In this case, it's the Ultima Keyblade.

 

Well, you have to think of it from a gae developer's point of view. If they allowed the strongest weapon in the game to be made right away, that would more or less take both the challenge out of the game and take the challenge out of actually getting it. The Ultima Weapon is something that you have to work for (and it's sort of fun trying to get it), so taking the challenge out of it would just be boring, imo.

 

But how is that these moogles just happen to create the strongest weapon in the game? I mean, don't keyblades choose their masters? Wouldn't the Ultimate Keyblade choose someone? Not get synthesized in some shop?

 

If I remember correctly, people merely give Sora keychains; when he attaches them, the Keyblade takes form based upon that keychain.

I think you're trying to add too much logic to a fantasy game. Sometimes you've just got to take things with a grain of salt; Kingdom Hearts is not, and isn't meant to be, reality.

 

Well, the Moogles create other incredibly strong weapons already (Donald and Goofy staff/shield), so I'm not surprised the could create the "ultimate" Keyblade. And I wouldn't say it's the "ultimate Keyblade" (as shown by the X-Blade). It just has high stats, and is more or less just another "upgrade" to the Kingdom Key like the other ones (Guardian Soul, Olympia, etc.) are.

 

but things have made sense so far. I don't get it, if they gave him keychains...actually where did they get those keychains?
Whatever, back on topic, would that mean that they needed a rediculous amount of materials to make a simple keychain just to make the keyblade take that form? I know it's not meant to be reality, but it's still kept that suspension of disbelief all good for me, until I actually look at something like this. It just doesn't make sense to me

Than wouldn't it technically be called the Ultimate keychain?

 

It's a theory that the keychans are a person's memories of Sora expressed in a physical form. Which would explain why he got different Keychains come KH2, because those memories were erased by Namine in COM: which thus in turn, erased the KH1 keychains. Again, it's a theory.

 

hmm, yeah I can't kinda accept this. So if that's true, would that explain why it looks different in KHI and KHII? Because the memories are different or changed or whatever? So it might cause the design to change a bit?

 

They have different recipes, do they not?
(unsure if that follows Plums's theory)

 

Wouldn't it be more something important that they give to Sora as a memento of their friendship? Like how the oathkeeper's keychain is the lucky charm which was given to him from Kairi.

As for the topic. I think you're just trying to use too much logic with this. The ultimate keyblades aren't related to the story in any way, which mean that they're purely a gameplay aspect and gameplay aspects don't have to make sense, they're just there to give the gameplay more flavour.

 

Not to mention it was a lot easier synthesizing materials in KHII, because of all the holographic moogle shops and whatnot.


In KHI, you had to repeatedly come back to Traverse Town.





From my perspective, the developers just wanted to give the player a break because of the long storyline and more worlds to go to (not to mention some harder bosses.

 

You're thinking with far too much logic here...
Like others have said, of course, it's just a part of a fantasy game.
They simply create the KeyChain, which Sora places onto the Keyblade itself, allowing it to morph into the Ultima Keyblade, like all the other keychains.
I believe that the Keychains are crafted from Sora's experiences and memories of each world.
The Ultima Keyblade may be crafted from the memories of each of his memories and experiences, the strongest memories, create the strongest Keyblade.

 

Agreed, you're thinking with too much logic.
The keychains represent Sora's experiences in the world in which he obtained it. Also from some personal experiences, like the Oathkeeper's chain is the lucky charm from Kiari.

 

Games don't have to make sense at all, they just need to be fun and hard to beat! What the hell is Synthesizing exactly anyways? What is a Moogle, why do they have poms and how can they have wings? Nothing is suppose to make sense, just that theres a way and a will!

 

But here's something, if the Ultimate Keyblade is made of Sora's memories, how do moogles make them into a keychain? I mean, wouldn't that be something namine would do? Or heck, wouldn't it just be something Sora would do?

 

Well its most likely magic, Moogles do poses a lot of that. And or perhaps its the help from the Keyblade's powers too.

 

All the characters that are from FF in kh doesn't mean they all have to act or play the same role like in FF (some do some don't). In kh, moogles are best at synthesizing and so they mustve figured out a recipe to make the ultimate keyblade. Mostly because for the fun of the game.