I like Kme92's "Coal". Also, I quickly put some words in an automated Latin translator (after Pezz indirectly reminded me of that). Here's what I found interesting : Coal = Carbo Spark = Mico Ember/Ash = Cinis or Cineris Glow = Subluceo Dawn = Diluculo EDIT : How could I not have thought of "Asters"?
1. Riku's story. I build off both of your ideas : Riku must, as you said, encounter Desouls on Radiant Garden. Since he doesn't have the power of Darkness, he'll have to re-learn it, find the chains of memories inside his Heart, and regian that power, fully controlling it. Blaze, with his special Keyblade (see point 4) can indeed release Riku's Darkness... but Riku will have to really learn it. Remember : he's not afraid of the Darkness, and used it quite masterfully beforehand. He should be reluctant to regain the power, but for the sole reason that he ignores the threat of the Desouls. And anyway, while fighitng the Desouls, Blaze will stab him/release the Darkness withtout Riku knowing what's going on. 2. So, when that happens, Station of Awakening. Who's gonna voice that part? I mean, the celestial voice that's only a bunch of subtitles (annoying in FM, unless you read Japanese)? Is it gonna be Xehanort? In KH2, it was DiZ, I guess, and in KH1, it was... who was it anyway? Still DiZ/Ansem? So now, we need someone to do that part. It could be anyone or anything, even a "reminescence" of DiZ, or Riku's Heart talking to him? I need your opinions on this. Anyway, Riku will learn, in his SOA moment, that there is a major threat. Then, he will accept the Darkness. He'll then finish his SOA moment... I have a great idea for that : Riku fights Desouls, while being instructed how to play the game, what are his unique gameplay abilities, etc. In the end, he should fight a boss Dehero. Who else is better fighting a Desoul that uses the powers of its past? Reminder : the Dehero Desoul uses the powers of the Hero it fights. Therefore, it should use a lot of Dark-themed attacks, such as Dark Aura, etc. When Riku wins, he gets... absorbed by the Darkness (that always happens after defeating the SOA boss, no?), and he comes back on Radiant Garden. 3. After the SOA moment, Blaze should be impressed with Riku. Blaze wanted to see Riku's power, sensing his Darkness. However, in front of his dumbfounded eyes, he sees Riku emerging from the SOA realm, fully controlling his Darkness and accepting it. After unleashing such dangerous power without hesitation when he learned he'll need it, Blaze should be shaken. I have trouble imagining Blaze admiring Riku for that, but he'll probably be jealous. And then, Riku will learn Dark-themed abilities as the game progresses, not to mention he gains the power to move through the Worlds, in Dark Portals. 4. Keybaldes of Keybladers : I agree with lilbueno ; let's have some fun! I was personally dissapointed that in 358/2 Days, Xion had the exact Kingdom Key. So let's be cretive and make some new and original Keyblades. Boomerags, hand-strap-ons, hammers, bows, shields, and anything you can imagine. Let's have each new Keyblader have an unique design for its Keyblade. How'bout we take each Organisation XIII member weapon, and turn it into a Keyblade? Last but not least : Unity Swords, or whatever they're called : swords that can be assembled into one. I only saw this twice, as Cloud's sword in Advent Children, and as a creative idea in a story by my best friend. Ok, that's it for now. A lot if ideas, so I'll put them in the Wiki's Bank of Ideas. P.S. : Pezz, you said you don't know why you see Eclipse as having Boomerang Keyblades? Well, could it be because an eclipse involves the sun/moon taking a crescent shape? And that Boomerangs usually have a crescent shape too? I hope this doesn't get Auto-Merged with my last post, because they are two distinctive Posts for a reason. EDIT : And whadd'ya know, it did auto-merge. So now I have a tremendous 1430-word Post. I updated the Wiki to include Riku’s story… by that, I mean that I simply Copy-Pasted Sora’s Story, and cut out the part where Roxas appears. So I would like to suggest this storyline for Riku, inspired by all your ideas, as well as mine. NOTE : We MUST change Mickey’s letter so that it doesn’t include “I fear your world may soon be lost to Darkness”. Halfway through the first sentence of the story below, I realised Riku would never leave Kairi alone, more so on a world that’s about to vanish. And Sora will never do that, especially after having lost her so many times. So Mickey should have underestimated the Desoul menace, like everyone else. *This is when they are in the Gummi Ship, in space, going towards Disney Castle. The Castle is in sight, not too far away.* *An alarm starts blaring* Chip : “Huh?” Dale : “What is that?” Chip : “There’s something strange going on…” *The ship shakes very hard* Dale : “What’s going on? We aren’t picking up any signals! What’s causing this?” *The ship shakes again. Sora and Riku, having got up from their seats, are suddenly thrown on the ground.* Sora : “I think we’re going t-…” *The ship shakes even harder than before, and for longer. Sparks fly off. The view changes from the outside. It shows the Ship desperately going towards Disney Castle, and a cloud of Darkness surrounding the area around the ship. The screen fades to black, and from here on, Riku and Sora’s story separate.* World 1: Radiant Garden *The screen comes back, showing Riku, face down on a blue floor. He struggles to get up.* Riku : “What… what happened… did I… *He gets up, looking around him. He realises he’s in Radiant Garden. He’s on a cliff of some sorts, overlooking a restored town, and ever-present castle.* Riku : “I really… came here? Sora! Sora, where are you?! Chip?! Dale?!” *Riku runs towards the town as the “Radiant Garden” words appear on the screen* *Riku comes close of the town, in a blue hilly region, when he stops running to catch his breath.* Riku : “What caused that? And did I use it?” *from out of the screen* “Of course you did. I sensed someone arriving to this world by using a Dark Portal. I assume that was you” *Riku is surprised, turns around and sees Blaze. More importantly, he notices Blaze’s Keyblade* Riku : “What? *to himself* So, it seems I remember correctly… I managed to use the power of Darkness to avoid the crash…” Blaze : “Hmm… you do seem interesting. I wonder just what else lies hidden in your Heart…” Riku : “Wait! What happened? Why did I end up here? Do you know anything?! Answer me!” Blaze : “I know nothing of your powers, or how you used them. However, I can detect a powerful strength lying in you… I wonder what it is…” *Blaze approaches Riku, who summons Way to The Dawn. Suddenly portals open, and Ember Desouls appear.* Blaze : “Now?! It seems we must postpone our little chat.” Riku : “Quit your nonsense! What are those creatures?” *The Desouls furiously attack both of them. They both evade, ending next to each other.* Blaze : “Are you going to study them, or fight them?!” *Battle starts. Blaze will help. Depending on the gameplay ideas we’re yet to develop, he’ll either be a party member or a guest character.* *When all Desouls are defeated… Riku is exhausted, already worn down after his near-crash and unexpected travel through a Dark Portal.* Blaze : “Now that they’re out of the way… yes, it seems I was right. The power I feel in you is none other than the power of Darkness. You hold such power hidden within you... aren’t you afraid? Afraid it might take you over and cause harm to those you love?” Riku : “Say what?!” Blaze : “Don’t worry; everyone is afraid of the dark. The power inside you might very well lead to you succumbing to the Darkness… but I burn of desire to see that power. Now, by the power the Key grants me, I’ll release the power inside your Heart!” *Blaze raises his Keyblade, and Riku can’t react quick enough. The screen quickly fades white as we assume he gets stabbed/sliced. When the screen fades back, Riku is in the Station of Awakening.* What do you think? I have ideas for what happens later too. In fact, some will connect ot what I already wrote, so you don’t know all my ideas just yet ;) I’ll stop here for the moment though, as not to put TOO much at once.
Interesting, this means that most Desouls can be saved without too much trouble. And they can be mass-produced. Let's keep this in mind. Torch is fine. I would suggest, just to give a suggestion myself, the word Flash. It's not too fire-related, because you guys pretty much suggested all the fire-related dictionnary. Except Axel. For obvious reasons. I know that I wrote a lot of parts where I used "it". I realised that I had no idea what everyone's gender is. So I remained neutral and scientifically and "itted" us instead. But really, I have no idea if anyone here is a guy or a gal. I always assumed guys, but that's only cuz I'm a guy myself. Welcome to the club! I guess that putting so much effort into a work of fiction (especially when I complain about overwhelming schoolwork so much), DOES make you seem unusual.
Good old days? It barely happened a month ago!:D Wait, we're talking about Turpis trying to turn eveyrone in a Desoul, as lilbueno said, right? NOT going around breaking SOSes and "creating" Desouls in not-yet-fully explained ways, like Xehanort? If Turpis is simply trying to turn people into Desouls, then yeah, I agree. He seeks perfection of the universe. For some reason. Maybe Xehanort put that objective in his mind as part of his mater plan? EDIT : Ok, maybe 2 months, but you get the idea. XD
Well, you summed up the story, but that's it. To lilbueno : your story is too detailed... we already planned a bit of things for the Keybladers. Those things are still new and subject to change, so I'm sure your ideas will help. But maybe not all at once, hehe. Lol, I'm one to talk. My first Posts on the Desoul topics were, after all, huge ideas on the whole concept put together.
Sounds like a plan to me! I agree. Besides, there's sitll gonna be some discussion on which Emblem to pick. Kme92, you okay that we stop designing? What about everyone else, if anyone followed this Thread?
It's not really the same thing. When you lose a reason to live, it's you, the living you, the Union of Elements that loses reasons to live. When we're talking about a loss of SOS, it's in fact the SOS of the Elements themselves. So, simply put, it's a bit like losing a reason to live, but much more profound ; for example, your body doesn't want to live anymore, and you have no control over it. This would be the loss of SOS. If your life is going through a difficult phase, then you at least have some control over yourself. I shouldn't have said "reasons of existing" in the Wiki ; it confuses. Btw, you come up with excellent ideas. Except maybe for that last one (I'm not sure I got it, and it seems too complex O.O), but everything you said is inspiring. Like this, for example, is making me get interested.
Yeah, I totally forgot about sending friend requests. Maybe because I didn't even know where to find the option.
Pezz's last idea is nice, however it departs from the other Emblems. I like the glowy aspect though. We must have some glowing lights with the Emblem on the Desoul world! We already thought of plants, so why not neons? I've been asked an example of my face idea... well, the face itself is more of a failure, and it definitely requires improvement. But I did do some things. I expected to stay 30 seconds on it though, so I used Paint, instead of firing up an advanced editing program. In attachments...
Original, but unfortunately inadequate. Think of a devenge. Following your hypothesis, it will only listen to those who broke him ; those who he has sworn revenge upon. That makes little sense. Furthermore, many Desouls become what they are because of themselves. Dessessives are an example. No one broke them. So who will they listen to? Xehanort perhaps, but why? Also, if Xehanort is to become a Desoul, he too will do so because of himself. If someone else broke his SOS, then I would understand the Desouls following that person. But Xehanort will lose his SOS by himself. I have a comeback though. Desouls seek will. But stronger Desouls may well have stronger Hearts, and thus more will left. Because of that, the weaker Desouls could obey them, because, to their eyes, they are an example. An example of someone who is better than them, but still a Desoul. I'm afraid that we also need to have at least a little hierarchy among Desouls, otherwise they'll probably attack each other. I'm not sure I get why they won't just jump on one another, since they both have some Will left in their Hearts. Is it because you can eat most of the Heart's Will of an ordinary person, but only the Desoul thus created can really finish eating it?
Random idea : Make the bottom part look like a face. The "black holes" will be the eyes, and the pale blue thing could the the face's shape. Anyone got any better ideas?
Hmm... I never thought of it that way. This is interesting. Desouls born out of incompatible Elemements are thus like the heaviest elements in the periodic table : they appear, but the Elements split almost instantaneously. Me and Pezz already discussed about something : All Hearts, Bodies and Souls that can't return to their original selves will start mixing wildly to create Desouls. However, eventually, all that will remain will be a few Elements who can't find any compatible counterparts. The rest would've became Desouls. With your idea that incompatible Elements can still attempt to mix... We can say that the Elements don't like that. They try to mix, but fail, and thus... feel pain? Become weaker? Or something among those lines. Therefore, they seek compatbile Elements, not only because they want to be whole, not only because it's the laws of physics in the KHU, but also because they want to avoid pain. Anyway, this is trivial. Unless someone has an idea that will really add something to the storyline, using this idea, then we might just as well drop it. Otherwise, we'd have to explain what exactly is the pain the Elements feel, etc etc.
Oh, well, we're not sure what happened to Riku WTTD. I always assumed it came out of... somewhere... but that it wasn't related to its Soul Eater....
Oh, and another suggestion, but only if you have time for it : The pale blue bottom part is sorta bland. Looks like a bag filled with water. I thought of something which could replace it. Here's a quick Paint-made prototype : Look in Attachments... This is really a prototype ; the concept is to have the dark blue curves seem as if they embrace a plae blue spike. It can be anything, not necessarily a spike. It can be another curve, or whatever. My prototype looks kinda ugly, but at least it shows my idea.
Ok, I have a few things to say. What I made blue out of your post = I agree. So yes, the Heart must be Magic, the Soul Attack, the Body Defense. I don't think we need more proof for this, because it makes enough sense already. The Body defends the Heart, etc. However, in red, I'm not too sure. The Soul fuels the Heart? What do you mean by that? If I understand, it will actually be the opposite, because the Heart gives the Soul power. The Soul, in return, helps Life itself ; helps the union of all Elements. My theory follows : Since one life = one Soul, I think that the Soul is the one who can use the Heart's power, and transmit it to the Body, allowing you to live. The Soul isn't the mind, but they are related. For this reason, the Soul's role in Life is to choose how it uses the Heart's power. Your thinking capacities are in your Soul, thus it determines just how well you can use your Heart's power. What emotions, what memories, what powers will emerge and help you? It all depends on the Soul. Think of a Heartless. It doesn't have a Soul (see my next point), so therefore all of the Heart's powers are sent blindly at the Body. A Heartless only acts on instinct, and without the Soul acting as a balance, the Heartless remains weaker than its original self. I got pretty far on this ; opinions? Then, in orange : Heartless don't have a Soul. It's in the Nobody. I'm not sure about weak-hearted individuals though, who don't create Nobodies. Except that, everything you said is cool. Finally, in purple : By "Bases", do you mean the Elements of Life? The Heart, Body and Soul? If so, then they cannot be "opposite" when making a Desoul. An Emblem Desoul is formed when compatible Elements mix. If they aren't, they cannot mix. P.S. : Why in the World That Never Was do we call Heartless "Heartless"??? They are EXACTLY the opposite of their name! They are a Heart, alone. Their Body is made out of darkness. Hell, NOBODIES should be called "Heartless".
I'm not too sure about having a dark blue as well. How about pale blue and pale purple? Pale colors should be what represents a Desoul best.
You didn't include the Mushrooms? Nor the new abilities? Anyway, I voted Limit Form, because it's so awesome. Maybe the Data Fights would've made more sense though, because they are the greatest thing making the game replayable. Limit Form would've made KH2 more awesome, since Sephiroth was the only super-powerful optionnal boss, and you are alone for that fight.
Me and my friend did this for so long during high school... taking any name and mixing it with an X... I would be Noxel.
You do get them, only for that particular final battle segment. That's the case in KH2, and I can only assume KH2FM as well. Also, sora-final-riku mentionned a more powerful Quick Run. I think that's half-true, because the game's physics are very different in that part of the final battle. Quick Run sometimes makes you take off the ground, for example. If you let yourself fall into the void, you'll... touch an invisible floor. And half the time, I get stuck in a wall with lasers shooting be and bypassing Once More :ranting:
About The Sword And The Stone, well, it seems okay. But not to say yours is bad, but I like mine better :). I like the ideas of Turpis taking the...
