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Is that like a reverse human centipede

Holy shit why don't I own this SHUT IT JAY

oh gOD I'VE BEEN SO BUSY GETTING POSTCOUNT I NEGLECTED MY KINGDOM AND NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ME

FUCK I ALWAYS BLUSH WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ME DSLKGHSGKDLGJ:GJ

BUT I GUESS I GOTTA RESPOND TO THIS SHIT SO HERE GOES Y'ALL KNO WHAT TIME IT IS

Man I just like talkin' about stories man Idk

KH had a big impact on me

and y'all might be surprised to hear that I really liked KHII the first time 'round

no bb that's the ukelele

On my new medicine? Very

WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU'VE ALREADY TOUCHED IT GET THE FUCK OUT

You wanna put that to the test Mr. I'm Not Gay but I'd Toss His Salad

More like he'd fight you to keep you from killing me because we're the only one allowed to kill each other

...See I'd make a joke here

but the first girl I thought of is taken :x

wtf is this like inverse Scott Pilgrim

Dude I swear he and I have got a mindlink

The end of KH3D is SO SIMILAR to the ending I had in mind for Colors of the Heart

The whole heartdiving thing? THAT'S MY MAIN CHARACTER'S POWER

IT'S WHAT HE DOES

AND I CAME UP WITH IT WAY BEFORE 3D WAS A THING

I MIGHT ACTUALLY BE NOMURA'S NOBODY

R U M O N A X

More like seven fairly benevolent girls who rejected me

excus

rissy was my first

#BODIED

HOW LONG IS THIS GOING ON

DID I MISS IT

I just worry that the goal is to portray a certain "new billionaire" persona—like they're trying too hard to be progressive and avant-garde with a classic character who hasn't been at his prime in a while anyway. Basically I'm wondering if they intend to have Eisenberg play the part or have the part play Eisenberg, if that makes sense. I dunno, I'm never sorry to see him so it probably won't upset me either way.

That's my biggest issue with the decision. Eisenberg's form of bravado, while lovely, is much more nervous and passive-aggressive. The Luthor I know is terse, selfsure, and strong-willed; he speaks decisively and with authority, and he never backs down. If Eisenberg can mold himself to suit that role then more power to him, but given his history it seems like too much to expect. He's a great actor, just not the one I'd envision for the part.

I'm sry belo /shoulderpat I know this must be hard for you

But hey, at least the cast isn't whitewashed :L

Uhh... Well this seems kinda slap-dash. Just because Avengers exists doesn't mean you have to one-up it, guys.

Huh. Interesting avatar dimensions.

I like both of your avatars, but they seem a little fuzzy. Maybe it has to do with the sources you used? Couldn't say. I'd also suggest moving both characters out of the center of the image, as it makes them a little more dynamic.

Out of the two sigs I think the Bambi one is the weakest: While I generally like your color balance here, the snowy effect doesn't lie well on Bambi at all, and there's no sense of flow or unified lighting which makes Bambi himself stick out like a sore thumb. I'd suggest applying layers of gradient color with Lighten or Overlay properties, or something like that. The text could use some work as well, as it also sticks out; try using more colors from your background, make it more ambient and do away with the stretching. A wise man once told me that text in graphic art is not really meant to be read, only to serve as further decoration.

The second signature is much better, more consistent flow and better focal point. The text fits a little better, but its placement seems arbitrary and distracts from Stitch rather than framing him. I'd also recommend removing your name from the second and the Kingdom Hearts S.O.S. logo from both. Not a lot you can do to make a watermark fit, and the link attached to the image does all the work anyway.

That was mostly negative but I will say that, again, I like your color balance and the idea behind your avatars. There's definitely potential here.

Pff, and I'm sure you'll be happy to tell me aaaall about them another day, another thread :'D

At this late a stage, I wouldn't be that upset if they just continued as-is. Like I said, there's always room for it in another series.

Ok, so we've got some feedback. How 'bout a second question: What do you think of its theme?

I personally love it to death, might be one of my favorite themes in the game. I don't care for villain themes with a "hope spot"—a sudden shift of tone towards happy and uplifting, as if to signify the heroes' turnabout. A villain theme should be for the villain: sinister, terrifying, and soul-crushingly dark. Shimomura makes a lot of emotional music for the KH series, but there's one emotion she captures every now and then that gives me goosebumps, and that's despair. This track makes you feel as if you are actually, truly fighting a nightmare given form.

First off, if you want me to know you've responded you might ought to quote me. Second, I agree! The "light-good-dark-bad" mentality has never been earnestly challenged. So... what's the contradiction again? You now defy the point that started this conversation: that the relationship is unclear. You seem to have admitted that it is clear, and that what we're talking about is not much more than speculation.

The light-dark dichotomy is exemplified in one character—better than you think imo, but I've already explained my feelings on that—but one character doesn't amount to much, even if I can type up an essay about him. The rest of the series is, in truth, consistent with the moral of purging darkness to make way for light. Sora's maturity hasn't necessarily been learning to accept the dark, but to understand that war with it is taxing and likely to harm bystanders, and that he must defend as much as he attacks.

The idea that darkness is not pure evil is mostly something I speculate the third game will play with because Nomura has said before that he intends to portray the characters' maturity and development in KHIII more than any other. If it doesn't end up in that, then perhaps some of these mystery extended-universe works Nomura's hinted at will feature them. But yes, as it stands light is good and dark is evil, with precious few exceptions. Those exceptions are worth noting in my eyes, but they remain exceptions nonetheless.

I would also add that just because light and dark are physical forces in this universe doesn't mean you should discretit their thematic, symbolic, or psychological presence, as that adds layers of meaning that may change your perspective on the story even from the first game.

Not sure what that means, but the titular Kingdom Hearts is only an overarching entity in the series; it's not necessarily the thing that deserves the most focus or the most in-depth explanation. It's meant to be a looming mystery over the story, its power awesome but ultimately ineffable... at least until the series concludes. That's when the decision is made, whether we ought to know what it is or not. But no sequel is obligated to explain itself; that depends on what the writing demands.

I wasn't implying it's conscious. It didn't "like" Sora or Ansem, the energies within it simply responded to them. Ansem called upon the darkness that swelled inside it, and Sora invoked the light to destroy the dark. There is no "How come" about it—It is what it is. An unfailing light surrounded by a shroud of dark. A mirror of the function of worlds and people alike: a heart within a shell which makes the shell move. It is the progenitor of all worlds and all life. It is, in essence, essence.

The extended series confuses the matter, true, but I believe it's because we've seen a lot of instances of a "fake" Kingdom Hearts, from those who invoke its power but don't have direct access to it. Depending on your persuasion you may wish to believe that Ansem's, Xemnas's, and/or Master Xehanort's were fakes, but considering the differences in appearance and function it's safe to say they don't all represent the true Kingdom Hearts. The fact that it appears before anyone with the power to summon it lends credence to this—That, or it's not actually a physical location but a state of being, or a non-Euclidean space that can be transformed and manipulated by the will/hearts of others. Perhaps it appears as the viewer wills it to, in other words. But that is in keeping with the idea that it is essence.

Riku's "darkness" is his anger, his desperation, his vengeful side, his ruthlessness. He employs it selfishly when he steals Sora's Keyblade and makes trouble for him, because in his desperation to save Kairi he deems any necessary sacrifice worth it. He knows he can't control it at that point, but he doesn't care. In CoM he tries to prove himself stronger than the darkness, but in the end realizes he's stuck with it either way and decides to begin learning how to control it. The events of Days delay this, however, and Riku makes the same mistake again: sacrificing too much to achieve his goals. Not only in the fact that he lets Ansem's form take over again to defeat Roxas, but even before that demonstrates his disregard for Xion and Roxas's existence in his bid to restore Sora. He has to pay for all of this in KHII, and in his shame he refuses to face his friends; but in the end their love for him overcomes his guilt. They've already forgiven him, now he just needs to forgive himself.

In 3D Riku has both embraced his darkness and learned to control it; thus his final exam begins. The reason he uses dark powers freely now isn't because he didn't learn his lesson or because Squeenix is preaching a janked-up moral—It's because he accepts the darkness, respects it, and maintains it. He has no reason to refrain from using something that once hurt his friends, because now he has the acute control and can turn it only against his enemies. The fog has lifted from his mind and his heart; when he encounters people going through issues he once faced, he reassures and advises them with confidence. He knows better than anyone what it's like to be down in that dark place, but it wouldn't be a good moral for him to be punished, or to transform completely from who he once was. That would be learning nothing. Instead, he understands that the people he hurt have survived, that they have forgiven him, and that he must master this power, not forsake it, if he wants to stop hurting people.

Light is something that comes naturally to Riku as a well-intentioned person, but darkness also comes naturally to him as well, as he is slightly more world-weary and bitter than Sora and his temper flares on occasion. The darkness isn't just "everything he did wrong;" what he did wrong is what he did wrong, the darkness just manifested in the emotions that led him down that path. But those emotions could also give him strength and make him better able to defend his allies. Rather than try to change, he simply becomes a better version of himself: learning to use those forces for good, rather than let the current carry him away. Hugs for the fans and hatchets for the haters. Light and dark working together in harmony.

Actually, that'd be kinda nice. And it would be the first meaningful parallel this series has ever had /brick'd

I kinda got the Kairi thing, since she's a Princess of Heart. If anybody can reverse the condition of a Heartless, it's the gal with "heart" in her official title. Plus I think the implication was that there's always a little bit of the person left (In the deepest darkness there shines a light), it just needs the right conditions to be drawn out. On top of that, Sora's darkness is weak, so if people can be brought back then his case was a cakewalk.

I thought staff was supposed to change the prefix when they started work on it

Arright. Here's the way I look at it.

Nomura did not know while writing KH that he was going to make more, right? So he made the first one to be its own, complete, all-inclusive story. Its themes are consistent relative to itself, and it delivers one solitary, powerful message: that no matter how deep the darkness, a light shines within. So, to answer your first volley of questions, the way that Sora figured out the nature of Kingdom Hearts is by connecting it to his own growth and the concepts and morals he'd been fed. Ansem told him Kingdom Hearts was the heart of all worlds—What does Sora know about hearts? There's a light in every one. He saw Heartless beyond the door, and he knew, he knew because he had just been consumed by darkness himself, that there had to be more to it. And sure enough, as if beckoned by his call, light spilled forth and obliterated Ansem. I believe the light was there before the Heartless, and they simply congregated around it because it's a heart and that's what Heartless do; but they couldn't extinguish it. It was too powerful for them, too powerful for Ansem, and that was the mistake they'd been riding since the beginning of the story. That was the moment of truth, when all their B.S. crumbled around them.

NOW. As for the rest of the series. KHII isn't really the game that pitches the "light and darkness in harmony" angle, but that comes up later. The second Kingdom Hearts seems to be stepping up a maturity level, dealing with some of the casualties of the war between light and dark and what happens to the misfits. Sora's still a lean mean darkslayin' machine in this one, but the matter is complicated by the fact that the villains' goals are more complex and in some ways align with his own. This doesn't shake the core beliefs of the series, but rather complicates them and makes them more appropriate for the series' growing audience. Where the issue of reconciling light and dark most comes into play is in CoM and 3D, where Riku features prominently: His character is a compromise between the two, at times pulled between forces and at others channeling them in perfect sync. Having another character pitch this message helps keep the main hero's motivations pure and focused, which I think is a good move as it gives everybody a little of what they want.

How is this going to continue in KHIII? Well, for those who haven't played 3D, I think the endgame of that has given us some thematic clues. Sora is no longer the naïve little boy goofing off and playing hero with his friends: He has been confronted with the consequences of his path and the number of people whose fates are in his hands. Of course, while the time he did have in the ending was spent well—spitting on Xemnas's rhetoric, reaffirming his faith in his friends and the strength it gave him, and expressing sympathy for Roxas, Xion, and Ventus—Riku ultimately stole the show, so Sora didn't get to act on what he learned. I believe this is because they were saving it for KHIII. Sora's friends are stronger and more mature than ever; and if he draws power from them, that means he'll be at his best for the final game.

That kinda went off the rails, so lemme bring it back by saying that the message Kingdom Hearts conveys overall isn't necessarily the same as the one it conveys through each character. Sora represents light, so his actions and worldviews will likely always reflect that; but that doesn't mean that the dark, his opposition, is all bad. If I had to guess, that will be a major theme of the third game, and Sora will have to face it personally. I'm interested to see what he does with it.

tl;dr don't look at the whole thing at once 'cause then it's a big confusing pile of mush; think of it as a structure, with layers and tiers of meaning stacked onto one another or added around the sides.

Huh. Interesting. So I guess he thought professionals would be too concerned with beating each other? I can definitely see that with modern sports, even the e-sports I actually like. Nobody cheats at a local tournament (Well, unless they're pathetic), but the collusion scandals grow exponentially the higher you climb into the ranks.

Feh, not that important then. I'm satisfied with it as it is. Thank ya :L

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