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E: Y'know what, fuck this and fuck me. I'm upset with myself for this thread, I overreacted.

In the interest of transparency the original text of this post is spoiler'd below, but I really regret goin' crazy on it like I did and I no longer identify with my words here.

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I dunno why you feel the need to tell me that. You made it clear already. You're allowed to like it, just don't go excusing it for its flaws.

Neither am I. I don't lose sleep over the show, it just bothers me when people try to defend its choices, especially in comparison to the original.

So... why not something better?

Which is exactly the problem. ITALICS FIGHT Now let me clarify: The problem is not that the show was meant to have continuity, but that the lack of consistency even with itself causes far too much of the humor to fall flat. The characters are predictably unpredictable: They do and say whatever the current joke dictates, and their thought process goes no further. It's dull.

/effectively doubles writing time of post to make it clear I rate the show a failure as an independent creation
/still accused of only hating it for not being a TT sequel

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First off: No, it's not ridiculous at all, because they are the same characters. I'm really not sure why that needs to be said. Same show or not, why do they not have anything in common with themselves? What's the point? Why bother changing them when you already have templates to work with, templates that synergize well, templates that have produced great humor before? Is a parody obligated to toss all the rules out the window, or is that just what shallow parodies are like? Should a parody not at least have some grounding in the workings of its predecessor in order to make fun of it?

Second, they don't have any traits. Each is a mess of random humor tropes that the writers thought would be good for a rib but didn't really think that hard about. Which I've already said like four times, jfc.

I expect the damnable show to not be a waste of time. If TTG was not a Teen Titans show, it would still be a colossal waste of time.

...I really don't see how the amount of time it's onscreen makes a difference. That just sounds like reaching.

Of course they're aware, after people have said it! Christ, this is what we give people points for now, having their friggin' eyes open...

I don't hate it because it's not the original. And I knew I'd be accused of it, otherwise I wouldn't have written a friggin' essay in my own damn defense before anyone said a word, but I guess it's inevitable that if you hate TTG, you get accused of being a purist. When all we had was a name, and everyone assumed it was a continuation, I had mixed feelings about that considering the note the series ended on. I didn't know if I wanted Teen Titans to continue. In the end, yeah, I was upset when I saw what it was - but it's not my decision what happens to Teen Titans, so I decided to give it a shot. Then it was a piece of shit. And then people defended that piece of shit and said it deserved to stand next to its predecessor.

So just to reiterate: I don't hate it because I compare it to the original. I hate it because other people compare it to the original. If they'd just let them be different shows and not feel the need to justify TTG's existence, then maybe it wouldn't wind me up like it does.

FRIGHTENIN' ALL THE DOGS!
ON THE ROCKY ROAD TO DUB-A-LIN, ONE-TWO-THREE-FOUR-FIVE
HUNT A HARE AND TURN 'ER DOWN THE ROCKY ROAD
AND ALLAWAY TO DUB-A-LIN, WHACK-FOL-LOL-DE-RA

#SaveTTClassic #TeenTitansStop

Here's the thing though: It's a bad parody. It is actually less funny than a show that can do more than be funny. The fact that there is no continuity, that it does not pay homage to what came before but rather extracts it from context and then exaggerates it turns it into a cookie-cutter sitcom where all the regulars dress funny. Because the characters do not conform to their personalities from the original show, they are free to do whatever they want - thus they are boring. They never set expectations that can then be subverted. They never tell anything more complicated than a fart joke. Half of the gags would be pretty much the same with a totally different cast of characters, and the ones that do rely on their unique traits are so simplistic, and sometimes downright bizarre, that they're more groanworthy than amusing.

Yeah, it's not meant to be heartfelt or meaningful, it's meant to be wacky and off-the-wall - but even with that in mind, I've seen better. Much better. So not only is it basically a limbless malform of its predecessor but it fails to meet even relevant expectations. That effectively doubles the frustration, since it likely would've been better as the show people wanted than it is now as the show people didn't want.

This is the same back-and-forth that happened after DmC did that gag where Dante tosses off a white wig and says "Not in a million years." It is mockery, that is the essential element of the joke, but that's not the real issue here. I doubt they did it to be mean-spirited, but context matters as much as intent in this case. It's a polarizing joke to tell, because it's clear that people who don't enjoy TTG won't find it funny, but everyone who does will laugh and go "Take that, haters!" It wasn't mean, but it was thoughtless... which is an impression I get from the rest of the show, come to think of it.

SPOILER ALERT You have a pretty face

That uh

That's not really what I

...

Eh forget it

Patched that up for ya

NOT FLCL.

Doctor, I need an expert opinion.

Am I forever cursed to be the best third wheel in existence? My relationship advice is top-notch, I've kept many an errant couple together, and I am a master of the hallowed art of the "movie romance hook-up" - yet I can NEVER seem to find a girl/boyfriend of my own! At least 70% of my crushes turn out to be lesbians (even if they're fictional characters), the rest are already taken, and in the rare cases where the planets align and potential for mutual interest blooms, I somehow manage to cockblock myself - usually by arranging one of the aforementioned hook-ups between the object of my affections and an equally smitten friend.

Give it to me straight, Doc. Is there a cure? Is my "always a bridesmaid"-esque fate written in stone? Am I merely sabotaging myself with my own low self-esteem and backhanded righteousness?? ...Nah, couldn't be. Is there any hope for a soul starved for love!? I GOTTA KNOW, DOC. I JUST GOTTA KNOW.

LET ME SHOW YOU...

THE TRUE POWER OF A BOSS THEME!!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

I have a kinda creepy squish thing with her as it is, she totally understands

r i g h t . . . ?

\o/ Is ok bb we'll always be here for u

a l w a y s . . .

So none of y'all know who those people are, got it

FALLACY

DISPROVEN

Seconded

Likin' that post just because I busted a gut at the word "mooncartoon"

Doesn't surprise me in the least. It sounds like it's from an era that's coming back around in a big way. I mean, that and it sounds good in general :'D

...

It's one thing to have perfectly legit reasons for wanting rep back

but don't act like this would never have happened back then

And now I feel it prudent to link to this post in that thread :L