point taken, but I don't think Xehanort should lose it right away
View attachment 2332 View attachment 2333 I still don't think I like the colors.... we're doing something wrong here.
Ok, I'm all good with the your idea for the emblem desouls. but about the devines. the name that you are giving them doesn't follow the naming pattern for pure breed desouls. this is how we name those guys. first they all have de in front of their names, secondly, their names are based on how they became desouls. if someone loses their SOS because they lost their memory, then we get a demember. If someone loses their SOS because of a lust for revenge, we get a devenge. If an incompatible heart recombines with a body and soul (nobody) then instead of the person reviving, the become a devive. devive is a play off the word revive. it really doesn't make sense to call them divines. also, there are very few of this type of desoul because the conditions needed for a devive to be made are very rare. Even so, this type of desoul is very high up there in power. ok, I done with that. now I just thought of something. I was just thinking that I can't imagine desouls working together under normal circumstances. Desouls only care about their own survival. to survive longer desouls feed on the will of other people's hearts. That being the case it would be inconvenient for desouls to hunt in packs. What I'm getting at is that because of this inconvenience, under normal circumstances desouls wouldn't form any sort of society like that nobodies did. that being the case, there wouldn't be such a thing as high ranking desouls. there are powerful desouls, but none of them have ranks like the nobodies do. The only reason why desouls would work together would be if there was some higher force commanding them to do so. We already said that this higher force would be Xehanort, but for that to work we cannot make him a desoul while he commands them. Desouls are broken people. because they are broken, they will obey any commands given to them by anyone who they consider their master, a.k.a the person who broke them. If Xehanort were to become broken too (if he becomes a desoul), then they would see Xehanort as an equal and would therefore see no reason to listen to him anymore even if Xehanort is more powerful then them. This makes desouls different from heartless and nobodies. Heartless listen to the ones who are the most powerful. Nobodies listen to higher ranking nobodies. Desouls they only listen to the one who broke their will but only if that person is not a desoul themselves.
We aren't exactly sure what we want to do with the emblem versions. can you say your idea again?
The movie is a little lame at times, but yes madam mim is like a witch.... well a hag is more like it. what was your idea that you had while mowing
ok i understand what Brexen was talking about now. the color helped me out a bit for some reason. I think that you, Brexen, are thinking about devive desouls. for devives, they have their elements mixed up. for all other desouls the elements aren't mixed up.
alright I'll give that a go.
episode 2 is out
i kind of think of desouls a fluent not jagged, but I suppose I could think of something. what do you think of the colors?
hold up, lets see where to start. Yes, the soul does feed off the hearts will to survive. that is the same thing as will. we have been using the terms Will, Will to Survive, and Willpower interchangeably. They all basically refer to the same thing, though each has it's own meaning. So if the desoul feeds on the hearts will, then it is also feeding on willpower and the will to survive. I know that you are having trouble with accessing the wiki, but if you can somehow get to it, read our new FAQs page. Section c is devoted to desouls. Section E is for the Sense of self, though that is subject to change. We are still in the process of defining it. Also about the types of desouls, For pure breeds that is determined by how a person loses their sense of self. desouls are, in a sense, "broken" people. people whose will has been "broken". this can happen in a verity of ways, and each way creates a different type of desoul with a name that is based on how they became a desoul. Take Devives for example. Then there are Demembers = memory, Deknown = forgotten by society/denied a social life. there are a lot of pure breed types. as for the emblem/artificial types, we have no names for them yet. emblem desouls still need to be worked on. as for the soul and the mind, The soul and the mind are different, but the mind has to be somewhere. Heartless, for the most part, are mindless creatures. they rely on instinct, but nobodies they have minds. they can think and plan. going by that, I would have to say that the mind resides in one of the two elements that makes up nobodies. the body or the soul. I think that we can both agree that the body probably doesn't contain the mind. the body is only the vessel and nothing more. that only leaves the soul. so yes the mind and soul are different, but lf you ask me, the mind make up part of the soul. For everything else in your post, a lot of it is philosophical concepts without that need more kh facts added to them. Everything about desouls is philosophical, but we went by what was know about KH in order to create them. so from what we discussed, desouls are plausible for an actually kh3 game. use some more kh fact to explain your concepts so we can have a better understanding. then we can consider how to make it work. I think that you may be a little confused about desouls here. I don't get what you are try to say about the desoul's base. they don't have a base. what exactly do you mean by base?
here's my latest design for the desoul emblem. I've decide to experiment with the colors after Zillagod suggested that desoul's should have pale blue eyes. View attachment 2329
We have a FAQs page on the wiki that should explain a lot. look through that and if you have any more questions, feel free to ask. here a link http://kh3-kh-vids-style.wikispaces.com/FAQ+-+Frequently+Asked+Questions Section C refers to Desouls, and we have start a section on the sense of self in Section E. Hope this helps!
oh, you know how Riku's way to dawn originally wasn't a keyblade, but then it sorta evolved into one. basically that would be how the sword would...
what do you think of the story idea I suggested for Sword in the stone.
can't wait for the new episode of FMAB
The soul is what contains the mind. If you go to thesaurus.com and type in soul, mind is considered a synonym. A nobody can live on because they can think; because they have a mind. And nobodies aren't even alive. The don't even exist. it is because they are not alive that they do not need a will to survive. A Nobody's "existence" relies on memories. without memories, they can't exist. they don't need a will because they have memories to "exist", not to live but to "exist". the only nobody that can "exist" without memories is Roxas and that is because he has a heart, which means he has a will to survive. And yes, strength does come from the heart. why do you think Xehanort is always after KH. To become all powerful. He lusts for power. Power does come from hearts, not the soul, but the heart. if you ask me, I think that the soul is much more magical than the heart. think about it, you need brains to use magic, and going by the above, the soul contains the brains. the heart is for the most part instinct. It isn't capable of using really powerful magic, at least not most hearts. you are completely right about the body though. The body is the vessel. It takes all the damage. the body does stand for defense. listen, I don't really want to have an argument here. We both obviously know a lot about about the Kingdom hearts universe, but this is where I stand on the subject. I really don't have much of a life at the moment. I've practically read the entire kingdom hearts wiki and have studied the game thoroughly. It's not something I'm particularly proud of, I read many pages more than twice over. From what I know of the game, Nobodies don't need will's to "exist". however, I don't think that either of us are going to budge here so I will leave the decision up to the other two who help me manage the topic. StarSeeker99 and Kme92. please, let's leave this up to them, I want to be friends here. If you want, you may make another argument for them to review before make their decision. I'll contact them to let them know. :)
As for donald and goofy, they will be off with Mickey. They will make a few appearances, but they will not be party members. remember, we want a more serious tone here. (we should put this question in our FAQs page) Camelot is a definite because the theme of that movie works great, and I'm guessing that Kaua'i is one of the islands in Hawaii (for Lilo and Stitch), so that would be a yes. however, I think we should try to think up a name that isn't the name for a place on earth. like for Lion King, they chose Pride Lands instead of Africa. the world's name could be called The Garden Isle (which is the nickname for Kaua'i), but I don't like that name. I suppose that Kaua'i probably is the best name. I'll re-watch the movie and see what else I can find.
Well the sword, in the movie, was even mentioned except at the very beginning and the very end. so it should only play an important role for the last person who gets there. As for Wart's destiny, Merlin knows that he will be important, but he doesn't know why. Most of the movie involves Merlin "educating" Wart to think for himself and become his own person. Here's what I think is the best approach. We need to explain why Merlin is there. Sora knows Merlin, so it makes sense for Sora to go there first. Merlin should say that he had a vision about Wart. by the time Sora gets there, Merlin should already be educating Wart. Sora should help out here. Then comes Riku, he meets Turpis (corruption). They talk, they examine the sword, and Turpis disappears shortly afterwards. Then Riku hears a commotion. He finds Merlin "battling" Madam Mim. Merlin Wins so Riku turns to leave, then he hears Madam Mim say, "Who are you supposed to be? Hey! what are you doing?!" Riku turns around to see a dark portal vanish. Madam Mim has been turned into a Desoul. Riku suddenly finds a reason to butt in, and he fights Madam Mim's Desoul. Kairi should be last. Turpis should have returned to the world to take the sword (the sword is a keyblade that is similar to Riku's). At some point during her visit, Wart should pull the sword from the stone. Nobody believes he did it so they put the sword back and ask him to prove it. Before Wart can prove it, Turpis appears to take the sword. He pulls it out and runs off. Kairi chases him and confronts him. Turpis transforms the sword into it's keyblade form and also summons his other Keyblade. they fight, and Kairi wins. For most of the worlds, when a character first visits a world, their should be only heartless. the next visit should have a lot of heartless, and a few desouls. the final visit soul have a few heartless and a lot of Desouls.
We have add a FAQs page to the wiki. Any difficult concepts are explained in detail there. We have also edited the style of the Wiki. color has been add so that it now has a more pleasant look.
well if we do this, then we may have to redo a bunch of stuff that we have already established about the desouls. We said that willpower lies in the heart, because the heart is what gives a person strength. therefore, Willpower, which is what gives you strength, would lie in the heart. also we've been using the term will to refer to the will to survive. When death comes, only the heart remains alive. Death is defined as: when the soul leaves the body. The body and soul cannot survive by themselves, they need each other. so when death happens, meaning that the soul leaves the body, both the soul and the body would cease to be. What is interesting here is that the heart is the only thing that remains alive. when a human dies, the heart returns to KH. once there, it waits till the time comes for it to be reborn into a new body and soul. From this, StarSeeker99 and I have deduced that this trait could be described as "The will to survive." It's Kh logic. Hearts have a desire to stay alive. when their body and soul dies, then they seek out a new body and soul to be reborn anew. I don't believe that all three elements of life contain will. I would need some proof to believe that. However I do think that a person's sense of self is contained in all three elements of life. We could use that for determining if a desoul has high defense, magic, or strength (I like that idea a lot! Great Idea! :)). A SOS is, in a sense, life. I could explain why I think this if you would like to hear it. :) Edit: Nobodies don't have a Will. They are only born if a person has a strong will, or Yen Sid said, "a strong heart." By saying that, Yen Sid pretty much said that the will resides in the heart.
