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Radiant Garden for Sora, Riku should land in a new world with a timeless sky (example: traverse Town, Twilight Town).

hmm, good idea! this can separate Riku and Sora.

exactly what I said when i got that picture from you lol

Very Nice! That would be a great way to start the game for Riku! But we should let all three of them have their own story. but for Kairi to work, we can't have her being so fragile anymore.

So how about this for Kairi. Starts off after they finish reading the letter. (an adjustment may have to be done to the letter)

Kairi: I'm coming too!

Sora: No, you can't. It's too dangerous.

Kairi: So what? This place will be just as dangerous as any other. Remember what King Mickey wrote in the letter? Our home is in danger too!

Riku: He also wrote that he was sending a ship for just Sora and me.

Kairi: Riku, you too? If I recall correctly it was you who gave me my Keyblade.

*Kairi summons her keyblade*

Riku: The circumstances in that situation required it. Besides, Sora and I have more experience.

*The Chip and Dale arrive with the ship. the door to the ship opens you can see Chip and Dale at the doorway. They are both saluting Sora and Riku.*

Chip: Chip

Dale: and Dale

Chip and Dale: reporting for duty!

Riku: Time to go.

*Sora turns towards Kairi*

Sora: Kairi, I'm sorry.

*Sora heads towards the Gummi where Riku is already waiting. Kairi is looking down at the ground. her keyblade has been put away.*

Kairi: So just like that.

*Sora stops moving towards the Gummi. Kairi curls her hands into fists. She looks up at Sora tears are in her eyes.*

Kairi: So just like that your leaving me again!

*Chip and Dale glance at one another, wondering whether they came at a bad time*

Sora: ...

Kairi: Don't you remember?

*Flash back. At the Alter of Naught in TCTNW. When Sora and Kairi where talking to their Nobodies*

Kairi: We'll be together everyday. Right, Sora?

Sora: Uh... yeah!

*Flash back ends*

Kairi: We'll be together everyday. Wasn't that what we agreed upon?!

Sora: ....... Even though I may not be by your side, I will still be with you everyday. Remember? Our hearts are connected. Yours and mine.

Kairi: ...

*Sora walks closer to the ship's entrance where Riku is still waiting. once there he turns to face Kairi and give her a sad smile. Sora enters the ship*

Sora: I'll miss you, Kairi.

*Riku follows Sora into the ship. the door shuts and the ship starts taking off.*

Kairi: uh... wait!

*Kairi sees Sora in the window. Sora is looking at her with a frown on his face this time. The ship disappears. Kairi is looking up at the sky where the ship disappeared too.*

Kairi: I'll miss you too, Sora.

*Time passes. It is night on the island. Kairi is sitting in her usual place where the bent tree is located. Kairi picks up a rock and stares at it before throwing it into the ocean. A see-through form of Namine appears behind Kairi.*

Namine: It's quiet without the two of them here, isn't it?

*Kairi doesn't answer*

Namine: It reminds me of the time when I was all alone in Castle Oblivion.

*Kairi stands up and walks past Namine*

Namine: where are we going?

Kairi: I'm not going to sit around and wait for him anymore. We're going to find them.

Namine: but how? we don't have a ship.

Kairi: Can't you open one of your portals of darkness?

Namine: Not while I am one with you. Your heart has no darkness in it. It is one of pure light. My portals will not work.

Kairi: Then we'll just have to find another way, right?

*Namine smiles*

Namine: Right.

*A rustling sound comes from a nearby bush.*

Namine: What's that?

*A heartless appears from the bush (a shadow type).*

Kairi: A heartless?

Namine: What is a heartless doing here?

*It looks around before scurrying off towards the cave in the island*

Kairi: I don't know, but what I do know is that they aren't welcome here.

*Kairi summons her keyblade*

Kairi: lets go.

Namine: Right.

*Namine returns to Kairi's body. Kairi chases after the heartless. In the cave she is ambushed by a bunch of heartless. She fights the heartless but there is no end to them. suddenly the desouls appear and defeat the heartless. they then set their eyes on Kairi. they surround her and leap at her. Flash of light. Kairi awakes at the Station of awakening.*


I just remembered that heartless can't enter Disney Castle anymore. We'll have to have Sora and Riku be taken somewhere else.

hmm, sounds interesting. you should finish your first game, though, first before move on to another game. that way you know you have the resolve to finish your second game.

kay! I'll go play Kingdom hearts! :D lol just kidding, I'm playing Scooby Doo instead. XD

ROFLOL Ha ha ha ha. very funny! You should use it for your signature! :D

Ok I love your idea about the fork in the story, but like you said their is that little snag there. Here's the theory about making nonlinear games (games with forks in the road)---- The more story oriented a game is, the more linear the game should be. games that are less story based should have more forks in the road.---- This is typically how things are done, but there are exceptions.

Kh games are story based, so they are for the most part very linear. the choices that you get to make in the game are mainly just for the order of the worlds you visit. but it is always good to allow nonlinear paths for the player to take. those paths though would probably be minor for this game (like you said), but lets try to come up with as much as possible.

Nonlinear games can be very difficult to make because you have to make sure that everything works out. the player may do something that you didn't expect and end up becoming stuck in the game. so nonlinear games require careful planing, but they are always fun.


off topic question for StarSeeker99:

by the way, you don't have to answer this, but out of curiosity are you interested in making video games for a living? I've just been wondering is all.

Also I'm using Maya (a 3d modeling program) to attempt to make a 3d figure of the desoul. It's kinda fun!

actually there is barely any math involved. leave all the math to the programmers lol. It is good though to know some programming. all you need in this major is basic college level math. easy stuff. one class and you should be done with math forever. but I'm not bummed out about anything nor am I ashamed. no I'm just making conversation here with everyone.

yeah, the best thing about making video games for a living is that you get to play video games. The worst thing is that you get to play video games. you have to test you game so many times that by the time you are done, you'll be sick of the game. Its even worst for the testers since they have to play the game through many times over without being able to take shortcuts.

so yeah contrary to the popular belief, little math is needed to make video games. unless you are into programming that is.

there is a square enix of America. no japanese needed :D

I know lol :D

lol easier said than done. I suppose I could use Maya (a 3d modeling program) to do it, though the Maya I have on my computer likes to get grouchy. but I could draw out a 2d map (maps for levels should be done in 2d. sketches I'm no good at) and see what I can do from there. I'm not really sure what kind of engine they used to make Kingdom Hearts levels. It definitely wasn't done with tiles. perhaps they did use Maya. but whatever, I'm rambling again.

but building a single room alone could take a few weeks. building an entire level could take months. But that's only when you do it alone. You're right though, I should be making some 3d areas. It a tad difficult though when you have college work to do.

actually that is my major. My studies are devoted to learning how to make video games, lol. I'm very good at coming up with stories and plots, at the moment I have four in my head. I am working on all of them except one. I'm able to keep them all separate from each other too, which I suppose is a talent.

but yeah. I want to make video games for a living. I particular I want to be a level designer. I could also go for writing the the game script. but It's a very competitive business that I want to enter. Not many people make it in.

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There were heartless before kh1, just not in mass quantities. Only the pure breeds existed then. there were so few, that they aren't even going to be seen in bbs. likewise, can say the same for desouls.

The creator of the game stated that thing about the heartless in an interview. so yes it's impossible to rid the worlds of heartless entirely, but bringing the amount of heartless down to a minimum (the way it used to be) could be possible with the use of desouls.

they could be the same color, but I don't think they are. perhaps it was a mistake, who knows. but as things are now, I'm going to say there is a blue moon and a yellow moon. I'm very interested in what the different colors may mean.

Thanks for the complement! Very much appreciated! You come up with some really cool ideas too! You contributed a lot to desouls and plenty of my ideas were built off of yours. You've been very helpful here. :D

back on subject. perhaps Xehanort could appear to be an ally in the beginning of the game and especially when Sora is fighting Maleficant. He could help Sora destory TWTNW. After all, Xehanort wants TWTNW to be destroyed, so it is in his best interest. Adds more twist to the plot.

I don't know if disney would allow a T game, but that doesn't matter much. Let's push it for all it's worth. we can look into the realm of the dead idea. maybe just touch upon it. I'm still really reluctant when it comes to going into that topic because all I can do is speculate. Anything dealing with death, I want to make as solid as possible.

Agreed.

hmmm... very good! I have to admit, I was unsure of how I could explain the attraction thing but you did the explaining for me. I really like this idea. it allows for either world to die first. More story development can be made this way.

The question is does Maleficient get defeated only, or does she get done in once and for all. We also have to consider Pete. I say that Pete should live on no matter what. Perhaps Pete can redeem himself during the final battle.

How about the Keybladers are not united in the beginning. Since they all have their own ideals, I think that they would try to do things their own way. we need something to compensate for the Organization epic boss battles. The keybladers are "key" (hahahaha) for copensating. In the end the Keybladers should unit, or at least most of them should.

Do this would create a very interesting game. And to add to this we can have three storylines that entwine, like in bbs. One story for Sora, one for Kairi, and one for Riku. all three charaters could have a different relationship with the various keybladers. Different relationships allows each character to fight different keybladers. this will create many plot elements that will make the game interesting. Disney villains, Keybladers, and Xehanort, oh my!

Nicho? I don't know.

I don't know this one either...

Antoinette! Yes! me thinks I got one! XD

Daily hehehe. I don't know if these are names: Alidy, Ilady? I have no clue T_T

Xehanort should most definitely be the true villain. I think that the we really should include other keybladers, like I mentioned before. This could allow Xehanort to make several appearances throughout the game without you realizing it.

It has been hinted in several scenes in the kh franchise that Xehanort could be a keyblader himself. with multiple keybladers popping around throughout the game, we can have Xehanort pop up every once and a while wearing a costume that hides his identity (and I don't mean the armored suit that Terra wore). we can say that he was revived properly, but now is looking for a new way to enter kh. thus, he started experiments again and discovered the Desoul. Mass production started and then he unleashed them on the worlds. The mass attack of desouls could be what draws out the other keybladers.

Now the whole desouls attacking heartless, the incomplete yellow kh moon, and the Castle That Never Was (CTNW) could come in handy here. when the heartless are defeated by the desouls, the hearts that make up the heartless would become incomplete. we could say that they therefore construct another, but different, incomplete kingdom hearts moon (this moon could be a pale purple in color).

This moon could perhaps form inside the Desoul's world, which could be a world that Xehanort created with his experiments (so the world could be a desoul itself). Since worlds can not move, this Desoul world is doomed to die no matter what. the world would become more grotesque as it's soul fades.

Now here's what you need to wonder in this scenario, where will the purple moon go when the desoul world dies? I would say that it would just linger in space. Ok, so what? Well, what if The World That Never Was (TWTNW) and the Desoul's world were to be destroyed simultaneously?

TWTNW contains the incomplete yellow moon; the desoul world would have the purple moon. So if these two worlds were destroyed at once, would the two moons collide into one due to a sort of attraction? If so, then just what would become of kh? would it destroy kingdom hearts? would it corrupt kh? what we need to wonder most of all is whether it would open a new path to kh.

imagine the final battle with Xehanort inside a corrupt kh. Xehanort could finally obtain the power he desired. however, this power would be corrupt. he would be gaining power from incomplete hearts. So then what becomes of Xehanort in this situation? perhaps the power from a mix of incomplete and complete hearts would turn Xehanort into a desoul himself. He would become the ultimate desoul. This could be the last face off against Xehanort.

I just realized that coincidentally that the colors yellow and purple are complements. so when these two moons collide perhaps the new moon would be brown (the color brown is created when complement colors combine). This color could represent a corrupted kingdom hearts.

Note:
It seems that the moons for kh can be different in color. the moon that appears in the bbs trailer was blue instead of yellow.

Personally, I would like to have three different story lines like in bbs and no party members that means you either play as Sora, Kairi, or Riku and occasionally they would work together. I think Donald and Goofy have had their share of screen time and if they were to become part of the party, then it would be only in the Disney Castle. personally, King Sora may be a bit much for me. I think Sora is fine as he is. besides, Square has been trying push out some of the Disney elements in order to make the game's story more serious. That would probably do the opposite. but If done right, I suppose the king idea could work.

moving on. I think that a year or so should go by before kh3 starts. that gives Maleficent some time to adjust to her new castle and begin a new scheme. It also allows for the real villain to mass produce desouls. All sorts of developments can be made if we put some time inbetween the two games. for this to work, we would have to say that the letter that mickey gave sora and the others was just the intro to a filler game.

I think that it would be awesome if in this game we introduce a whole bunch of new keybladers. Some could be bad, some good. I forget where, but I read that back in the bbs time, there were several keyblade masters that would take on apprentices. each keyblade master had their own set of ideas. we can use this idea to create epic bosses in a similar manner that the organization did for kh2.

Imagine, desouls are causing havoc everywhere. They have become so much of a threat that keybladers everywhere are forced to come out of hiding in order to deal with them. Each keyblader could have a different solution for solving the problem, however some solutions could be kinda of anti-heroic while others are not heroic at all. This can cause all sorts of conflicts.

Going back to the time thing. I also think that we should give it a year or so because that way Sora and Kairi will have become friends (or something like it) with their nobody. They could gain powers, such as forms, because of their nobody's, or do special attacks by using their nobody's power.

not a bad idea. I'll add it to the list!

Aturm hmmm... not a tipical name, but a mix is always good :)
This idea about the darkness is a little bit of a concern. I would think that such a thing would result in a heartless, but then again heartless are consumed by darkness. these guys would walk among the darkness, they are darkness itself while heartless are the darkness made living.

I think this would be and interesting idea to play around with.

I have start a storyline thread in the creative corner section the tags are: desouls, fan fiction, game, kh3 story, make a story. the name is...