For the Triadds, it's ok, I just had that idea. What do you think of it, Brexen? For the Poll, I would like if we keep the "Get shatterred" death as well. Or are we limited to 8 choices? For the candle on Desoul thing, it's an original idea. We could keep it. And pale purple eyes still are cool. And... that's it for the moment...
About your Desoul sketch : It's good because it's reminescent of a Shadow, Dusk, weakest Unbirth. It remains consistent as the waekest enemy. However, purple eyes? It goes nice with the green body, but is purple a color we could keep? It could look as a mix of evilness/emptiness... what do you think? Also, the thing in its head makes him look a bit like a Pikmin (!) Okay, I thought of some ways for a enemy to vanish upon death : 1 - Going up in flames (of any color) 2 - Turning to dust that is quickly taken by the wind 3 - Simply vanish quickly (like in the KH games) 4 - Disappearing instantly, during a single frame 5 - Sinking unto the ground, as if you fell through 6 - Melting like a liquid, and “dry†a second later 7 - Evaporating (like the Organisation members) 8 - Dying by the power they control (like Demyx, who becomes a water splash) 9 - Turning into a sort of gas which quickly dissipates 10 - Shattering like glass (Like the monsters from Yu-Gi-Oh) 11 - Levitating and vanishing a second later 12 - Quickly rising towards the sky 13 - Having a “portal†materialize and absorb the enemy (either below or behind it) 14 - Being absorbed into the killer’s weapon 15 - Being absorbed into the killer’s body 16 - Have it’s “Elements of life†(Heart, Soul, Body) visually separate, then vanish 17 - Stay motionless for a few seconds, becoming more and more transparent 18 - Other (please specify) Finally, about Triad(d)s. Your idea to manipulate elements around them makes them sorta half-able to use magic. Demyx, for example, can produce water out of thin air. If a Triad can't, and can only control pre-existing water, then they don't feel so "god-like"... So your example wasn't too good, but good idea. "Controlling the shape on the things around it." This means they can control more than Ice, Fire and Thunder. They can control how bodies are created... because bodies are matter... and maybe, just maybe, A high-ranking Triad makes sure that all bodies "produced" are suitable for specific Hearts they have captured. Thins means that ... The Tridas would then be those who mass-produces the non-Purebreed Desouls. At least, they could've helped the Pure-Breed Desouls to do so, for they can shape bodies (pre-born, or made with technology) to be suitable for any given Heart. Ok, Imma gonna stop right here before I get carried away.
Yeah, I'll think of some things, but I'm sorta busy right now... blame physics and chemistry... so maybe later tonight. Damn, my schedule is really messed up right now.
Where exactly do thos epictures come from? Which FF? Also, they are all humanoid, and can actually all be human. If the Triadd or whatever gains something, could it be that it keeps the human body? Since it does not get killed/turned into a Heartless, etc? I already thought of something, although it wasn't intended for the DeHero itself : If you have floating Keyblades like Final Sora, you can effectively Quad-Wield by grabbing Keyblades in your now free hands. So we don't really need 4 arms. It must also look cool ; using physical and telepathic powers for the win. Perfect. That works for me. Yeah, nice idea. Perhaps they should look duller, becauseof the lack of SOS? This, as well as the eye color, are subjects that require creativity, and perhaps even artists. So, considering you and I monopolised this thread (I see that besides us, only Brexen gave some ideas recently), I have and idea : Let's make a Poll! Asking people how they prefer seeing their victims die. It works for Desouls, as well as anything else. We'd still be in a videogame, so this should not be TOO long or graphically demanding... but on the other hand, if we're thinking of the newer consoles out now, we can allow some more artistic ways of dying. I suggest we give a few ideas each, so that we find as many awesome ways of vanishing after death. In the Poll, I will then put them, with the option "Other - Please specify". People can help this way, and of course we'll link them to this thread, so that they can help here if they like the Desoul topic. This would be the 3rd Thread related to the Desouls, so we should put links on the first post of each one's.
Thanks for the rep and the friend invite!
Of course, I could help you manage the Desoul topic. However, keep in mind I'm new at this forum, and in forums in general... So if there's...
-1. AAAARGH! I'm feeling stupid. I noticed you posted something before me, and read it... halfway. After you answered to Brexen's ideas, for some reason I thought the Post was finished. So, about the last thing you mentionned, that you didn't understand : What I meant is, we previously thought about "elements randomly mixing". Hearts find compatible Souls and bodies, etc. I mentionned that an extremely rare event would be the Heart finding ITS ex-Body and ex-Soul. I said that this would be very unlikely. But I may have been wrong : What happens when a person's Heartless is defeated, then it's Nobody? The Heart returns to its Body and Soul, and the person comes back. ... ... ... ... ... This seems easy... so the Heart finding its ex-body and ex-soul is already a relatively common event. My idea fails, unless we think of special circumstances. Such as the Nobody being defeated before the Heartless... and then we talk about death, and about the Realm of the Dead, and things get extremely mind-boggling. Therefore, I said that we should leave this discussion for later. 0. About the e-mail I meant that I received a notification that someone replied to this thread. Hm… maybe I should select “Daily e-mail notification”. Since I’ve joined KH-Vids, I’m receiving e-mails tenfold, and I can’t do anything without being interrupted :) 1. About the Desoul’s appearance Their body changing as you fight them is the way to go. The concept is very cool, and we must keep it. As you said, they could only have two forms. But I suggest that the stronger Desouls have 3 or 4… and in order to save the game from massive lag, what if we make a lot of “semi-boss” Desouls? The DeHero could count as one of it. Those semi-bosses would be an ordinary enemy, but which is much stronger than most. So strong, that it requires a strategy to be defeated. An example would be the Behemot from KH1… only smaller, and LESS boss-like. Behemot makes my PS2 lag like hell. Anyway, those Desouls could have 4 form or so. And since they are stronger, they’re also rarer. And, therefore, don’t appear in huge numbers. This could prevent the lag, as I said. 2. About the Desoul’s eyes As they shift appearance, they eye color changes, as you said. We have four “main” colors : Yellow, Black, Red and White. As they lose their soul, their eyes could either whiten, blacked, or become red. White because you lose something important, red because you become more vicious, and black because you become more evil. Also, what if their eyes lingered after death, for a second or so? Or at least, what if their eyes shine strongly while the body fades away? And my last (and best!) idea : As you fight them, their eyes disappear! Imagine a human-looking boss battle like this. No need to argue about the color; their eyes just slowly fade away. Or one after the other. As for the “healthy” eyes, the debate is still on. I’d say white, because it symbolises the lack of sense of self. 3. Adding information about the DeHero Our new ideas paved a bright future for the DeHero. I’m still not sure if it should be a semi-boss, or a one-time big boss, however. Maybe we could have a DeHero and a DeSora? One for each kind of boss? First, I would assume the game’s protagonist is Sora, because it allows a lot of cool features : The DeHero, like all Desouls, changes his body upon losing health. I imagine it with several bars of health, as a true boss. It could start with a Sora-like appearance… very similar to him, only darker. Fights with one “Keyblade”, which would be a “good” one, such as Oathkeeper. As you take away some health bars, he would suddenly become darker, and have Red clothes underneath all the darkness surrounding him. Say hello to Valor DeSora. He would be extremely aggressive, and have little to no defensive powers, for he only cares to attack. His Keyblade would morph into… Fatal Crest maybe, and also materialize Way To The Dawn or some dark Keyblade. Then, he will either become a very dark Final Sora, or an Anti-Sora. Maybe a mix of both. Needless to say, he will be extremely vicious, and evil as all hell. Oblivion would be a good Keyblade to wield (assuming he is not Anti-Sora, because that would mean no Keyblades), because not only is it dark, but its name also represents what the Desoul is about to face should it lose. As for the second Keyblade, it could be… I’m not sure, but Mickey’s key IS from the Realm of Darkness… 4. Feelings that make you a Desoul : Okay, I mentioned that we should think of every possible feeling, and how abusing it, or perhaps lacking it, can make you a Desoul. So, therefore, you must end up with losing your sense of self. Here’s a brainstorm, placed in alphabetical order. Also proposed are names for Desouls coming from those feelings. I tried to have the prefix “DE”. It work really well to write a word with that prefix, and ask Word to give spelling corrections!! I also tried using the names we already came up with. Aggression >>> You react so violently that you become unable to show kindness. You lose your SOS (Sense of Self) because you can only reject anything, and everyone will reject you. Name : While trying to put “DE” and “aggression” together, only “Dagger” comes in mind. But it doesn’t begin with “de”. It’s still cool enough. Arrogance >>> In your feeling of being superior than others, your SOS could be powerful. But if you realise that maybe the others aren’t as inferior as you think, you will get mixed feelings. You may, for example, be racist, but at the same time, like someone of the hated “race”. So you’ll end up confused, question your beliefs, and probably discover that all your personal beliefs were in fact forced into you by your education, or that you simply aren’t the one believing in them. Your SOS will suffer when you realise that your whole personality is based on lies. Name : Derogate DEFINITON : Verb 1) to detract, as from authority, estimation, etc. 2) to stray in character or conduct; degenerate Maybe “Degenerate” could work as well. Avarice (is this a feeling?) >>> You want more and more, and you are never satisfied. What can you think of yourself when you are consumed by avarice? Not good thoughts. SOS is gone. Name : ??? Envy >>> Your mind only focuses on what other have and you don’t. You see yourself as someone who can’t get what it wants, and lose your SOS. Name : Denvy OR Deserve Friendship >>> The loss of a good friend, or of many close friends at once, can make you feel unwanted, unappreciated, and useless. Goodbye SOS. Name : Defriend (wordplay on “befriend”) Hate >>> You keep an interior anger at everything, and can’t do anything else but hate. Your SOS is centered around a life you can’t enjoy, and you lose it sooner or later. Name : Despise Pride >>> A bit more complicated, because being proud should mean that your SOS will shine as you believe in yourself. As always, when a feeling does the contrary of what is needed to become a Desoul, I’m wondering what happens when that feeling is shattered. So, if your pride is destroyed suddenly, you might lose your SOS. Name : Deprive (wordplay on DE + PRIDE) Love >>> I’m not sure how a good love story can make you lose your SOS, but a hard break-up can definitely do that. Your heart shattered (figuratively-speaking ; the Kingdom Hearts Universe has yet to explain love), your SOS is sure to be disrupted. Name : Deloved (wordplay on “beloved”) Obsession >>> It’s easy to figure out how being blinded can lead to losing your SOS. However, WHAT you’re obsessed about often deserves its own category. Being obsessed with revenge isn’t the same as being obsessed with your research. Still, for anything that doesn’t fit in other categories… Name : Dessessive (your idea, wordplay on “Obsessive”) Revenge (the urge to get it) >>> Your thoughts and actions are shrouded by your will to get revenge. Everything is forgotten in the name of revenge. Including the SOS. It was your idea, and you called it… Name : Devenge Sadness >>> Your SOS won’t survive if every waking moment of your life is a drama. A person with no joy in life can end up like this. Name : Depressed “Sociality” (intentional, as in rejecting others) >>> Your idea, Pezz. When you reject others and end up with no life, you might question who you are, realise you aren’t anyone, and lose your SOS. Name : Desocial. Alternatively, being unsocial because others reject you, even if you want to be with them, leads to a different path. You once again question who you are, but realise this time that no one wants you, and your SOS will be lost. Once again your idea. Name : Deknown. “Vitality” (being energetic, joyful, etc) >>> When you live your life letting your emotions loose, like what we think an Unbirth does, you may end doing some quite bad stuff. This would lead you to regret many things, question yourself, and lose your SOS to your inability to have controlled yourself. Name : Delife (this name was already suggested instead of Dessessive, for the Obsession feeling) ***Extra note : A Desoul can also be created when a Heart find a suitable Soul and Body, but which weren’t its original ones. This is the Devive (wordplay on Revive). Well, that’s it for the moment. I may have missed obvious things, but we got enough ideas for the moment.
Interesting... especially on the sides, because it seems like something "leaking" out of the circle... However, where is the Heart? Both Heartless and Nobodies feature hearts in their symbols, and we should have it too.
Here's some tips : - Use Quick Run to avoid his attacks. If you're not used to block/dodge them, Quick Run does a good job. - When he does his "Water Pillar Line" or whatever attack, when he creates lines of water while slowly walking towards you, just use Thunder. It'll launch him in the air. Or Fire if you're feeling daring. - When he does his "Keep to the beat" attack, get close to him, and Guard. You can block his Sitar strikes, and since you're invicible for some time after using Guard, you can easily avoid his water pillars. Then, when he says "I got you now", if you blocked his hits, you should be able to get a combo in. If it's too hard, try to get near him and spam Reflect. It will do a huge load of damage on him. - Whenever Water Clones appear, mash the attack button and triangle. After hitting a Clone once or twice, the Wild Dance reaction command pops up. Remember that you cas use it 3 or 4 times in a row, so be sure to mash Triangle unitl Sora lets go of the clone. - When he shoots homing pillars at you, Reflect once they reach you. Reflect is your friend. Have it on your shortcut list. - Two Keyblades would do the trick here : Hero's Crest, if you like Aerial Combos, or Circle of Life, because MP Haste is very useful. - Have fun. Makes things easier.
I know. Seeing this as a "war" isn't very good. However, it explains the idea. I would venture to say that it's called "The War on Drugs" simply because it's easier to say/write than "Making efforts in order to forbid drug use". Neither side is filled exclusively with people taking this as a war in which both sides must fight until one is exterminated for their opinions. It's like saying "The war on death penalty", the "war on abortion", the "war on poverty" (which, according to the links you posted, is probably from where the term "war on drugs" came to be). When hearing such term, you instantly know what you're talking about, even if it's not something literal. Despite the fancy names, it's still a debate. For this reason, it's not something you can win or lose. There are many kinds of drugs, and their accessibility is very different from one place to another. Even if one country manages to legalise/illegalise all drugs in existence, the debate will still be active on the rest of the world, and probably even in the country who took action.
Very well said, but I though I'd mention a few things. When I say that we don't need marijuana to live, I meant that it really brings a lot of problems in exchange of the good things it brings. The best use we know is in medicine, if not the only one. Cars, papers, water, swings, Internet, television, and so on all have practical uses. While it's possible to die from those things, not only is the danger (generally) much smaller than from marijuana, but they also bring to our style of life much more than marijuana does. You mentionned that legalising it also regulates it... true, but that's the same as "fighting" it. What we should be (and hopefully are) looking for is a way to fight the problem of people misusing marijuana, not the plant/drug itself. So therefore, legalising it for regulation IS way to "fight" it. Once again, the education seems to be the best solution. Teach what drugs are, what makes them different one from another, what they can do, why they are used, using anonymous witnesses, etc. Going through the pages of this debate makes me realise that we could continue posting arguments forver. No matter how well or poorly-supported our arguments are, both the YES and the NO sides have interesting things to say. Unfortunately, I think that the best, maybe even the only way to find a solution is to make sure that young kids know what to expect... I don't like this, because it's basically a "We inform you, you decide later" strategy, but I think that that's the only way any huge debate such as this one will ever end. I've had my say more than once, more than twice, so if anyone wants to criticize my ideas, be my guest.
Medical uses for marijuana are used, but are they really unavoidable? Does anyone know if the same effects can be attained using less controversed/dangerous substances? Correct me if I'm worng, but aren't there several countries who legalise marijuana for specific medical uses, with specific authorisation? Why I believe marijuana should be kept illegal, save for those specific unavoidalbe medical uses, is because we don't need it to live. Yet, despite this, it causes a lot of trouble, pain, and even death. Not to mention the social problems, monetary problems, and so on. You're 100% right about tobacco and alcohol being deadly as well. I said this a few Replies ago, suggesting that we should, one day, get rid of them. Regardless of our opinion on it, that's another story, which is even more complicated. For the moment, I'd rather continue talking about marijuana. And no, us on the "NO" side aren't automatic broken records. I've seen some people indeed say "Drugs are bad. Period. Debate finished.", but there are also people who say "Drugs aren't bad. Period. End of debate." And no, we do not believe those on the "YES" side are heavy drug-addicts who wish to legalise marijuana in order to get high legally. Arguing about death penalty, for example, doesn't require anyone actually being condemned to death. Interesting comparation pointed out with the "War on Terrorism", but, just like that, seeing the drug debate as "A war on drugs" is not a good idea. A "war" is basically that you want to destroy or get rid of something. In a DEBATE, however, we explore each side of the argument. And those who don't do that, or don't bother explaining or supporting their arguments, can't have a significant influence. Whoever posts "Drugs are good/bad, end of story." on this Forum will be seen as an idiot. So therefore, since we're seeing both sides of the argument, we can't call this a war. Those who are on the "NO" side and actually see this as a war will probably end up just like Bush did, as you said. To conclude, I'd like it if people who know any practical use of marijuana to talk. We know about some medical uses, but even there, the information must be researched. Aside for medical use, which can be legalised without the marijuana as a whole being too, the only reason to legalise it would be to, ironically, fight it. Whether this is a good idea or not is still to be discussed, however.
Drugs are never going away, you say, so let's throw them at everyone. You suggest that for every drug now? You say I'm stupid? At least I'm actually trying to fight the problem. And you actually say that marijuana is NOT a gateway drug? And you call the person who said the contrary "ignorant"? Have you ever heard people who took drugs actually talk about it? You'd be surprised how many drug-addicts started with "weaker" drugs like marijuana. And more importantly, before showing disrespect to people with different opinions, at least have something to support your facts. "Marijuana IS NOT a gateway drug, you're ignorant" isn't a very smart argument.
So you say we should give tips as to how to use drugs "safely"? Well, I've heard of such tactics. I disagree with them. However, as long as there is something supporting the decision, is probably not that bad. You are right about the education. If everyone at least KNOWS a lot about drugs, they will know to control their doses, and, hopefully, never start using them in the first place. I would rather count on durg education which still protrays them as dangerous... because that's what they are. We can't deny it ; drugs ARE a source of a lot of harm caused to society. You say that this is government propaganda? I really, really disagree with you there. It's not something you can only learn in a laboratory through experiments. People who tried them and then talked, people who suffered because of a close one using drugs, and many other situations prove that drugs are deangerous. And honestly speaking, I doubt we'll find a good and unreplaceable medical use for LSD or heroin. Why would governments hide something which supports their policy? My idea to illegalize alchool is more of something for a society we are yet to become, unfortunately. If it could work with no problem, it would be perfect, but things aren't like that. Marijuana is not as widely used as alcohol, so that's why I say we can keep it illegal. It's stupid, since alcohol is likely the one causing the most deaths, but a little imagination proves this. As you did, if we take a moment to imagine how will people react if alcohol were to be illegalized, we don't see something really pleasant up ahead. Maybe another day...
EDIT: So the e-mail I received (and didn't open) while I was typing this Post was because you Posted yourself... Well, I won't say much now, cuz I'm starting to lack sleep. But you've mentionned another thread, where we'll discuss the storyline. It's an excellent idea ; we should finish soon with the basics of the Desoul. This will also allow other people to join... I don't know how many want to contribute to this thread after I bombed it with texts longer than the dissertation I handed in the same day. As for your ideas : - With the Devenge, we're getting to something. Basically, there's no more arguing here : as long as we lose our sense of self, we become a Desoul. Since we got the basic idea, we can think of how it applies to other feelings. I suggest we think of every feeling we can, and see how this can obsess someone into becoming a Desoul. *Puts that in To-Do List*. - Excellent reasoning with the Desocial/Deknown. I can't say much, you've really proved their differences. - Your pure/breeded Desoul is perfect, and it fits in the game too. - Eh? You've prevented me from naming what? I can't even remember what you're talking about, so whatever it was, feel free to name it. If anyone got carried away, it was me :) END OF EDIT 1. Considering the huge amount of things we've thought of, I will take the time to write down the new stuff. I will only get into minor details, until the next point. * Desoul creation/appearance - A Desoul is basically someone who lost his sense of self. It still has the Heart, Soul and Body. - A Desoul could appear when a person's Heartless is defeated, after the Nobody was defeated. Technically, death should occur instead. - A Desoul could appear when a person's Heartless is defeated, and then another person's Nobody is defeated. The Heart fuses with a "compatible" soul and Body, but not with the originals. This can be called a Devive. * Desoul death/dissapearance. - They feed on the Heart's will, and their Soul and Heart slowly fades. The stronger the initial person was, the longer this takes. When they use up all the Heart's will, the Body and Soul die. As for the Heart, we don't know...yet. - The Desoul is defeated and slain before eating away all the Heart's will. The Body and soul die. The Heart, freed (like from a Heartless) joins Kingdom Hearts. 2. So, you made me go further into an idea I've had... about the "element" mixing. As you said, if we take for granted a Desoul created by Heart1 merging with a compatible Soul2 and Body2... this means that another Heart2 can probably merge with Body1 and Soul1. But we can apply this at a much larger scale. All three Elements mixing wildly. Thousands of Devive Desouls are born this way... however, a Heart checks certain "requirements" in order to choose a Body and Soul. Following this, two outcomes are possible : A) All Hearts found a compatible Body and Soul. This means that there aren't any Hearts, Bodies, or Souls that aren't part of a "being". They are all either in humans, Heartless, Nobodies, (Devive) Desouls, or Unbirths. Actually, I'm not sure about Unbirths, because we don't know much about them yet. This means that the universe reached a certain "perfection"... altough this is more of a paradox, because the "perfection" is caused by Elements randomly associating themselves. B) Not all Hearts found compatible Souls and Bodies. They are still searching for good matches, but either can't find them, either no one matches anymore. Considering that a Heart can be looking for very specific criteria in its Body and Soul, this is possible. What does this mean? I don't know yet. Finally, I really like the idea of "The Heart finds ITS Body and Soul, from the original person."... but we have a problem here! It already does that when a Nobody is defeated after a Heartless! So, for this idea to work, it needs to be in a "scecial" context, where normally the Heart wouldn't find its way back to its corresponding Soul and Body. When we'll restart talking about the Realm of the Dead, we could use this. Ok, I shall go to sleep now... It's nearly midnight, and I too had an exam today, and had to procrastinate my studies because I had a trillion of other works, projects, labortories, etc. etc. to do...
We can't just say that men or women are superior one compared to another. Overall, that is. It is known, actually, scientifically proven that women are better at multi-tasking, whereas men have a better orientation. Still, exceptions occur. Guys are physically stronger... but that doesn't mean a girl can't beat a guy. Girls are theoretically better with emotions and with expressing themselves. However, I can safely say that when it comes to emotions, I can express myself clearer than many girls I know (I'm a guy). So, men, women, we are both humans. In a few places, we are opposite faces of a greater whole. In most, we are the same. Wow about we enjoy this diversity nature and evolution gave us?
I thought about it this way too, but I'm not sure it's a good idea. Especially the time just after it's legalised. Something illegal is suddenly made legal. It will be more accessible... tremendously accessible, since everyone will notice just how much money they can make out of this business. If it's illegal, it's still going on underground, indeed... it can dissuade people from trying to get it. Is it worth more than just legalising it? Difficult to say. And, unfortunately, it's difficult to test, as well. We can't legalise it for a month and see how things are going after it. Making money by taxing it legally is an interesting idea... imposing a hefty tax could also keep some people away. It sounds a bit evil (no pun intended on your name), however, to get cash by letting something dangerous on the loose.
I used never to play them... then got curious... And had as much trouble winning Assault of the Dreadnought Level 3 as defeating Sephiroth. Gummi Missions are a whole new game in Kingdom Hearts, and you can have fun for a lot of time. Building your ship is really nice, especially in KH2, and fighting through space is cool enough as is. However, I'm having trouble understanding many things... like the Ship's Stats. Just how much does Power increase the attack of your guns? If Mobility really necessary? etc. etc. And now, I want to try this in Final Mix. I don't read Japanese.
Contrary to by mostly liberal thoughts, my opinion is that we should keep it illegal. And make every sort of drug illegal, INCLUDING alchool and tobacco. All those things keep causing discomfort, harm, if not even death. Medical uses for marijuana aren't, to the best of my knowledge, something you absolutely need ; medicine can give you other solutions. There's a reason why marijuana is illegal, because, as all drugs, it can cause addiction, and a whole lot of problems after it. People mention that alchool and tobacco are deadlier than marijuana... and they're most likely right. But that's not in any way a reason to legalize marijuana. On the contrary, sounds more like a reason to forbid all of them. The governments won't like it, because all the companies relying on the production and distribution of such products will be ruined. But when you turn on the news and hear about car accidents involving alchool, drunk people acting in violent fashion, cancers caused by cigarettes, and stories concerning more powerful drugs... more reasons to ban them appear. People keep dying because of those things. Why are we keeping some legal and some illegal? We must be consistent! Many people pointed this, but as a reason to legalize marijuana... well, not me, for, as I said already, I'm against each and every substance/narcotic that is harmful to the body. So I say we forbid those lethal things... alchool isn't always dangerous, but I don't think the "traditionnal values" are worth the people explaining to me or you what ******ed things they did while drunk.
I suprised myself, by I voted for Xehanort. The theories around Terra and Ven make us already know a lot of possible things about them... as for Aqua, while more mysterious, theories are still in order. Therefore, I'm getting more curious about the other two guys. Xehanort's Apprentice is the one we know the least about, but Xehanort, being (from what we can guess) the main villain, brings up a lot of questions. What did he do? Why? How did he recruit his apprentice, and who is he? Why does his name keep appearing all over the place?
