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    Interesting, an emblem without a heart.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 6, 2009 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
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    Roxas was a special nobody for 3 reasons. First off, he could use the keyblade. Secondly, he couldn't remember his past because Sora was a heartless for only a short period of time. And thirdly, which is the biggest of all, Roxas had a heart. Because he had a "heart" he could wield the keyblade. but because his somebody returned to normal, Roxas's/Sora's soul and body were sorta split. I suppose that you could even say that their heart split in two as well. Sora, being the somebody had priority over memories, which was why Sora still had them. Roxas is half of Sora; Sora is half of Roxas.

    When Sora gave up his heart, he did it willingly, which was why he remembered who he was when he became a heartless. The same thing applies to Xehanort's heartless.

    Xehanort's heartless was truly defeated after Ansem did that thing to the moon. because Ansem messed up KH. the Yellow moon could no longer be Kh because it was incomplete. This means that When Xehanort's heart joined the yellow moon, it joined an incomplete kh, aka a bunch of hearts that were lumped together.

    As for all the hearts that left the moon, after Ansem messed it up. They probably turned into heartless again. after allc those were hearts that were consumed by darkness. when a heart is consumed by darkness, It becomes stained and turns into a heartless. The body of a heartless is composed of darkness. They are darkness made living.

    When they are defeated, their hearts become released and return to their body and soul, unless their body and soul is a nobody. in that case, they linger in space and form the yellow moon. if their nobody was already defeated, then the heart returns to the real KH.

    So anyways these hearts were already stained by darkness enough to become heartless. when they were defeated. they went to the yellow moon which is light. but After ansem messed up the moon, many of the hearts were scattered in TWTNW which is a world that lies very close to the darkness. because of this, the hearts could once again compose a body out of darkness and become heartless anew.

    That is what happened when ansem messed up the yellow moon. However the animators made a mistake when animating this. when they show the first heart hit the ground, five heartless appeared. so we must assume that that heart was equivalent of 5 hearts. I'm guess that when hearts are jumbled together, they take on the appearance of a bigger heart. This would mean that the lone heart, that turned into five heartless, was a fragment of the yellow moon, and it was composed of 5 hearts.

    If you think about "End of the World", It was a heartless composed of all the world hearts that were consumed by darkness. Since heartless are, in essence, just hearts, and because "End of the World" was a heartless formed from several merged hearts, End of the World formed it's own moon, one that was not very noticeable. This moon was black and it appeared behind the double doors that lead to KH. (For anyone who's reading this, StarSeeker99 was the one who pointed this out to me.)

    This black "moon"/heart can be partially seen in this picture below. it is hidden in the background amongst the clouds.

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    I believe that the moons merely serve as gateways to Kingdom hearts. They would be what forms the giant double Doors that lead into Kingdom hearts.

    Now as for the amount of time that Xehanort's heart spent in the yellow moon, well, that shouldn't really make a difference. being a part of the moon shouldn't really affect the heart in any way. nor should the time that the heart spent in the moon. That is what I think.

    now, on to memories. As stated in CoM, Memories reside in the heart; however, I believe that these memories may make an impression on the soul. It would be because of that impression that Nobodies have memories.

    I don't recall him saying that, so I'm going to assume that this is what Xemnas said, in final mix, before the second fight where Xemnas wears armor.
    If he said it, then it is probably true. when those shadows are revived, they probably remember it all as some sort of bad dream. A revival should not do anything to one's memories. Xemnas and Xehanort's heartless were two separate entities, and I wouldn't be surprised if Xehanort's heartless was unaware of the existence of Xemnas. When Xehanort get's revived, he would probably have the memories of both his nobody and heartless.

    you are absolutely right here, I'm surprised that this had never even occurred to me myself. Yes Xehanort would want to delve deeper into his research, He would probably seek a way to give himself multiple "lives" again as well. His research will eventually lead to him discovering the existence of desouls. however this is not what Xehanort would desire because a desoul's life inevitably leads to death. however he will discover that Desoul's can easily be controlled because of the fact that they are broken people. It is because of the fact that they are so obedient that he would mass produce them.

    the answer to this is yes and no. When a person becomes broken, they still remember who they are. They will remember that they have morals and such, but because they are broken, they are 100% obedient to their master even if he/she tells them to do something that goes against what they used to stand for. But as time goes on, A broken person begins to accept their new life and their mind begins to deteriorate. Eventually, they will forget who they are entirely. When it comes to that, there is no going back. whoever that person was is gone for good.

    It is quite a scary thing to think about. In real life, anyone can be broken with enough torture. If you do it right, then it is only a matter of time before the person is broken. This applies to anyone and anything. In real life, will power has nothing to do with it. It can only prolong the inedible.

    If we compare the above information to a desoul in our game, then we can say the following. desouls are born when a person becomes broken. At first they know who they are. they obey 100%. as time goes on, they end up forgetting who they are and their mind deteriorates. When they no longer know who they are, then that is when the candle goes out. their soul has faded away and death takes them.

    the will to survive is an instinct that all desouls have. they don't want their soul to fade which is why they feed on other people's will. but by feeding upon another person, that person loses a bit of their will which in turn causes their soul to begin to fade. because the victims soul begins to fade, that person becomes broken too, meaning another desoul is born.

    Because of this inconvenience, desouls are never able to finish a meal. This is why they seek out heartless. since heartless have no souls, the desoul is able to finish it's meal without having to worry about it's prey turning into a desoul.

    This is also why desouls desire KH. It is an all you can eat buffet to them. when Xehanort creates a new desoul, He would take advantage of this desire. that all desouls have, and he would do this while the desoul can still think clearly. The desoul is doomed to die, so it will have no choice but to trust Xehanort. From that point on, the desoul would consider Xehanort as its master.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 5, 2009 in forum: Archives
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    shoot, your right. I forgot all about that. oh well.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 5, 2009 in forum: Archives
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    oh... I'm sorry?

    oh... I'm sorry?
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    yeah it kinda gets a bit confusing, lol. you can start with the worlds right now. I thought of a real good one, but I don't remember what was. anyways I was thinking that a good them to play with in this game should be all about defining who you are as a person. So I think the story's in the Disney world should revolve around a character's sense of self.

    StarSeeker99 mentioned in an earlier post that we should do Sword in the Stone. I think that would be prefect for my proposed theme. the movie is all about Wart/Arthur learning who he is as a person. I think that works great. We could say that Merlin returns to his world because he had a vision that someone important would need his help.

    Also Pinocchio would work very well with this. He want to be somebody, he wants to be a real boy. It would be great. Lion king works too.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 4, 2009 in forum: Archives
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    well his heartless was defeated before his nobody, which means that his heartless's heart lingered, with the rest of the hearts, in the yellow moon. That would mean that when his nobody was defeated, his heart would have immediately returned to his body and soul. In doing so, he should have been revived. That's how a revival works if a person has a heart strong enough to create a nobody.

    I don't think we can say that he turned into a devive. He has a strong heart. that being the case, It would be reasonable to assume that one of the requirements that his heart seeks, when searching for a body and soul, is that the body and soul have to be able to handle a strong heart. In other words, for a devive of him to be created, then his heart would have had to have transferred to a nobody who maintained a human form. An org member.

    The problem here is that his heartless was destroyed after all the other Org members died. Technically speaking, his heartless was still alive in Riku through most of kh2. Riku was purged of this darkness when Diz did that thing to the yellow moon. So at that point in time, Xehanort's heartless was truly defeated. All this happen after the all the Org members died, so It would be impossible for Xehanort's heart to have merged with nobody and give birth to a devive.

    This means that while Xemnas with still alive, Xehanort's heart would have been lingering with the other hearts, in the yellow moon. And since Xehanort's heart is completely compatible with his body and soul (Xemnas), Xehanort's heart would have priory over reuniting with his body and soul.

    Basically what I'm saying is that even if there was a heart, lingering in the yellow moon, that was almost compatible with Xehanort's body and soul. Xehanort's real heart has priority over the body and soul that was released after Xemnas was defeated. this means that We can be certain that Xehanort was revived properly as a human.

    I also don't think we can say that he purposefully turned himself into a desoul. After all, desoul's are doomed to die. No matter Strong your heart is, it is a Desoul's fate to have it's soul fade away. I doubt that Xehanort would take such a risk Even though this is the case, I'm thinking that he would probably end up becoming a desoul at the end of the game either due to obtaining the power of a corrupted KH, or because he would lose his SOS because of his obsessiveness of obtaining the ultimate power of KH. I think the cause would most likely be due to him being so obsessed with Kh.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 4, 2009 in forum: Archives
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    well that would be great except that when you think about it, the resurrection of Xehanort just means that his already existing heart, body, soul are remerging together. I would assume that this would mean that he have his original appearance once again. I would like to give him a different look, maybe an even younger look, but I Don't see how that could be explained. If you have a plausible explanation, then I would jump at the chance to make him a tad younger, but unless you do, we should leave it as is. We should alter his haircut though, I think.

    As for whether or not people will see it coming, well, he would be hiding his identity for one. secondly, in order to make him a mysterious keyblader, He should make very few appearances and all of those appearances would be brief. Also he won't speak until he reveals himself for who he really is.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 4, 2009 in forum: Archives
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    Update: I've added the different types of desouls we made so far to the wiki.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 3, 2009 in forum: Social Groups (KH-Vids.Net Forum)
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    I'm sorry, I kinda feel bad about that :(. I definitely was a good idea, and creative at that. but some times what you write down for a cut scene in a game doesn't end up working on screen. I just can't imagine that working out. The eclipse would be meant to represent disaster, and if you were reading a book, then perhaps that would work. but I keep trying to imagine the heart moving in front of the sun. It keeps killing the mood for me because the heat's shape just isn't a good symbol to use to represent disaster. It just doesn't work in my head, but lets see what everyone else has to say first.

    btw, what do you mean by a legend?

    That's a good question. We should probably keep the hair the same. as for his outfit, well he would probably have two different ones. one as the mystery keyblader, the other after he reveals himself. We need the Keyblade costume to conceal his identity, but I'm tired of the old black cloak. Maybe He should look like DIZ When he had the bandages wrapped around his head.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 3, 2009 in forum: Archives
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    We may already have names for them now.

    Hope/faith = Oriens(Latin for sunrise),

    curruption = Turpis (Latin for foul, ugly, morally corrupt),

    order = Rin

    Chaos = Blaze

    despair = Eclipse

    Of course these names are subject to change.

    Edit: oh sorry, I didn't read your post fully. the names that I was trying to make before by mixing letters were for the new keybladers that will be introduced in our story. not desoul names. my bad.
    Post by: Pezz, Apr 3, 2009 in forum: Archives