Maybe. Well seeing that the player would be playing three different characters view of the story, we want to avoid as many repeated scenes as possible. Sora should be debriefed, most definitely, since he always seems to need someone to explain to him what's going on. Riku could probably figure things out for himself. he will probably have the most interaction with the keybladers so He'll learn bits and pieces from them. As for Kairi, she has Oriens to explain things. well in a similar fashion to Turpis and Kairi, Eclipse is primarily Riku's main villain. Her final battle with him would be right before WEAS gets destroyed. There will be successive boss battles after that, but who exactly will be the boss is yet to be decided. As of right now, we've been considering having Xehanort try to resurrect Ven and Aqua but due to his power being corrupted, instead he would create desoul versions of them. Riku would fight Ven, Kairi fights Aqua, and of course Sora fights Xehanort, who would be turning into a desoul do to either his obsessiveness for KH's power, or due to the corrupted power that he obtained. Something like that. We can work on the details later. Yeah the dairy would show her decent into insanity. I would be quite interesting to read. Well the problem is, it could very well be illegal for us to make such a game. Not too long ago, I was attempting to make a 2D version of Majora's mask, however, it turns out that doing that is illegal, even if I don't sell it. another thing we would have to consider is copyright issues with Disney's characters. Is it ok for us to make a fan-made game using their characters? Honestly, I don't know. I would hope not, but you just can't be too careful. Also, this is Nomura's story, and I doubt that he would want us to write it for him. We may even be pushing things by completing the wiki, storyline and everything. The one thing we have going for us is that the actual game has yet to be in the works, at least as far as we know. There may even be a possibility that he may not create a KH3, though I highly doubt it. before we even consider turning this into an actual game, we must do plenty of research to make sure that we aren't in the wrong. I am Studying to become a game maker, so getting into a illegal issue like this would be bad for me. If we learn that it's ok for us to do this, then we would need to assemble an even bigger team in order to make the game. I won't even consider making it without a bigger team. This would be a huge project, and it will take a whole lot more than four people to make it. perhaps we could wait for the company to actually make KH3 and then pitch our fan-made version to them. who knows. For now we just continue with the wiki.
the scene has a lot of potential but there are some things that need to be fixed. Desouls are way too powerful to use to create a 1000 heartless battle. That battle is a piece of cake, it can even be beaten with your eyes close (all you have to do is press triangle). I've done this before. lolz 1000 heartless battle must happen again, but it must be different than before. maybe it shouldn't happen all at once or perhaps a few desouls or something are thrown into the mix. The world that would be best for the battle to take place in would be TWTNW. After all, that is Maleficant's new base of operations. also note that we don't want to have mickey Donald and goofy to be as big a part of the story this time, however this would be a big scene, so perhaps they should be there. I also noted that Kairi said nothing in this scene except for two lines. Kairi, or Sora should be written out of this scene. It probably should be Sora since he saves Oriens and because Kairi should think that Oriens is dead. Another thing to take note on is that the only two worlds that Sora, Riku, and Kairi will all be on at the same time, is TWTNW and WEAS. There may be other worlds where two of them meet up and work together for a short while, however this would happen twice per character. for example: if you are playing as Sora, then he will bump into Kairi once and he will bump into Riku once. I like what you did with Eclipse, just keep in mind that once she goes crazy, then she will no longer have good intentions. she may end up walking off a cliff, backwards, after her final battle with Riku. --------------------------------------------------------------- on anther note, I thought of a back story for Eclipse. The first time that she was able to wield a keyblade was around the time that the heartless started to attacking the worlds (this was some time before KH1). She summoned it accidentally upon meeting a lone heartless. She then used the keyblade to defeat it. Because she could wield a keyblade, and because heartless are attracted to the keyblade, it wasn't long before the heartless began attacking her world in huge swarms. She tried to fight them off as best as she could, but it didn't seem to stop the never ending waves of heartless. Eventually, while fighting off an unusually large group of heartless, she happened upon her world's Keyhole. Sensing the nearby keyhole, her keyblade reacted and shot a beam of dark red light inside the keyhole. The beam of red light destroyed the world's heart, and her world along with it (the heartless on that world were also killed). Eclipse's keyblade protected her by sending her to another world. The next day, she was found unconscious, by Oriens, on Highnoon Hamlet. Oriens cared for Eclipse till she awoke. Upon awakening, her memory of the previous day came flooding back to her. She broke out in fits of hysteria, upon realizing that she had just killed everyone who she held dear. Eclipse's story concerned Oriens greatly. He knew that if she didn't learn to control her powers, then disaster would fall upon the worlds. Oriens trained Eclipse as best as he could. He managed to teach her how to control her powers, however he was unable to help her mentally. Eclipse refused to get over the fact that her world was gone and eventually, to relieve her own pain, she blamed the heartless for her world's destruction. This line of thought, along with her guilt, ended up twisting her sense of morality. Her moods started to become erratic, and her methods became more rash. It wasn't long before she no longer wanted Oriens company. And so she set off on her own to send her wrath upon the heartless. Any town or world that she thought was over run by heartless, she would end up destroying in order to kill them off. Being a keyblader, Eclipse has the ability to unlock the keyhole that leads to a world's heart. By doing this she can use her power to destroy any world. ------------------------------- Also I was thinking about the reports. Perhaps, if you play as Riku, then you pick up pages from Eclipse's diary. If you play as Kairi, then you pick up pages from Turpis' research notes. And if you play as Sora, then you pick up pages form Xehanort's latest set of reports. One more thing. TWTNW is going to be destroyed before the end of the game. That means that the player won't be able to return to this world. This being the case, we shouldn't place any chests in that world. I know that this really is unimportant right now, since we probably will not really make the game (then again, who knows), but I just thought that we should take note of that.
yup, that pretty much sums it up :)
lolz, that's where I got the idea of having someone use a keyblade like that. XD Neither did I, I read the manga instead. basically, yes the keyblade would have more than one form. It would have a normal form (similar to other keyblades), then it would have a more powerful unique form (such as the boomerangs for Eclipse.)
lolz, good point. but I think that that sort of look would be great for her. I'm not good at drawing people either, so to give you guys an idea of what Eclipse will look like, I'll probably draw a stick figure. he he, I made a funny! :D well if we go with the bankai idea, then her keyblade could have a normal form.
Hmm.... let's see. well first thing that I have to say is going to sound really cheesy but this is something that would be best to always keep in mind. There is always, always hope. Right now, you just lost a boyfriend and found out that a friend betrayed your trust. Its only natural to feel like you are in the pit of despair. It's only natural to hate the one you called your friend. and it's only natural to still be in love with your ex. These depressing feelings are natural in a situation like this. You want help, you said it yourself, but you don't know where to turn to for advice. well as I read through the thread, I noticed that someone, you know personally, responded and said that you can talk to them. You replied that that person is not always there. Well you know what's great about modern day technology? you can talk to people through the internet. Another person that you should consider speaking with is your parents. Parents are great if you are having problems with life. They care about your life and will always take the time to help you with your problems. Even if they are not good at giving you advice, you should speak with them. just letting everything out helps. As for the girl who betrayed your trust, well you best stay away from her. Do your best to avoid fighting with her because that will probably end with more feelings of depression over the whole matter. If you want to cry, then cry. let it all out. As I said before, it's good to let it all out. As for the Ex, what you do about him is up to you, just don't go to him and tell him why he shouldn't date that girl. As you said, the best thing to do is to let him learn for himself. These feelings take time to go away. What would be best to do, while waiting, would be to keep yourself active in order to forget about the pain. one last thing. Stop cutting yourself! that doesn't help anything at all. It will only make things worst and it can even become a habit. Don't do it! It will only help to keep you depressed. I hope everything ends up well for you. remember to have hope. :)
No problem man :)
I don't really know bud. :( This is a tough situation that you are in. I would like to say that everything will be better, but honestly I just don't know. You said that you don't want people telling you to go back and try to make up. I think that you are right to say that. This probably isn't going to be something that can be solved anytime soon. You have no idea why John (it was john right?) is mad at you so there really is nothing you can do. For now, just do your best to try and get over it. It's going to be a tough thing to do, but it's what you're going to have to do. If this will ever be resolved, then it will probably happen sometime later in the future. for now you just need to continue living your life. I'm sorry man there really isn't anything that you can do. This sort of situation really sucks. :( Best of luck to you.
EDIT: Ok, I got de-repped for this so I would like to explain myself in order to avoid any more disapproval. I never said she was anorexic, all I meant was that what she wrote are symptoms of anorexia so she should consider the possibility. It could very well be other things, such as depression; however she never said that she didn't like her life, on the contrary she said she had a good life. So out of all the possibilities, the one I thought most likely was anorexia. It's just a possibility, and I thought it would be best for her to take that under consideration. that's it. This sounds like a serious issue to me. I'm not kidding, this could really be something bad. Your actions and thoughts are very similar to someone who is either anorexic or is becoming anorexic. You said you had nightmares? well guess what, nightmares are also a sign of anorexia. You should take this issue very seriously because anorexia is life threatening. People can work their way out of it, but most people need consoling to do so. (by most I mean practically everyone) I think that there could be some underlying issues here that are the cause for all of this. what those are, I don't know. That's part of the reason why most people need consoling for this sort of thing; to learn the reasons for their thoughts and actions. You said you have a good life and gave examples for why that's the case, but you never mentioned anything about your parents. Perhaps I'm reading too deeply into this, but due to the lack of you mentioning your parents, my first guess is that they could be part of the cause. However, I don't know all the details here so I don't know. If your friends tell you that you are pretty, then you are pretty. No if, ands, or buts. Your friends wouldn't lie to you about that. What would be the right thing to do right now would be to go straight to your parents and talk to them. tell them everything that you said on your first post. Again, this really could be a serious matter here. Don't, and I mean don't, take it lightly!
It not your fault, but you may want to be careful with this girl. If she did something like that once, then she may do it again. There are some girls who just like to play with a guys feelings by jumping from guy to guy. I'm not saying she is one, I don't know all the details here, but I'm just saying be prepared if she is like that. But anyway, Congratz on the girlfriend! :D
I don't know. I think it's strange that you would even go around thinking about things like that. Are there other things going on that would make you think such thoughts? you mentioned a getting over a depression, but if you are having such thoughts often, then you still may be in one. As of right now, all I have to say is that if you catch yourself thinking such things, then concentrate on thinking about other things that you enjoy doing.
wow, talk about emo. You know what, I you may be on to something here. Hmm...
a scar sounds like a good idea! yeah, I have no idea what I even want Eclipse to look like.
not really. I'm sort of fiddling around with her keyblade. not much luck there. I haven't really thought of a back story for her. I doubt that her back story will need too much depth too it. An idea just popped into my head, but I want to fiddle around with it before I present it.
Yes, Xehanort should be the one to have created WEAS. After all, WEAS is crucial to his plans, so it would make sense if he made it. as for how he made it, that's a good question. Well here's a few things I been think on. I reread the Ansem Reports. As you said, the machine to create artificial heartless neither used people, nor hearts (which doesn't make much sense since you can see a heart released whenever you kill a heartless, the exception being Neo-shadows). Therefore, we should make our machine, that spawns artificial Desouls, do something similar. what it should do is create an artificial heart, body, and soul (these artificial elements should have yet to be perfected). Anyway, this machine should be Turpis' creation. I'm thinking that he was attempting to create artificial people, that had no SOS, in order to create an army that would not question orders or something. anyway, the machine ended up being a failure for it created the first artificial desoul. Since Xehanort stole his research, he would know how to make his own machine. Eventually, he took his desoul creations to the next level and created WEAS. this would explain the lack of inhabitants.
Your idea could use some refining. It creates a lot of plot holes. here's the biggest problem. If a desoul was the one who caused World Ends At Sunset to become the way it was, then that would mean that desouls could do that to any world. now unlike End of the World, which was comprised of all the worlds that were consumed by darkness, World Ends At Sunset was solely created from one world. Desouls cannot combine into one. Because of this, WEAS has to be created artificially, else we would have to account for the fact that other worlds could have already been destroyed by the desouls. the other problem I see here is that for a desoul to turn a world into a desoul, the desoul must have access to the world's heart. this is because desoul's attack the heart's will. At the end of KH1, Sora sealed off all the keyholes that gave access to the heart of each world. this happened when he sealed the door to kingdom hearts. because of this, the desouls do not have access to the heart of the worlds.
I know! I'm just amazing, aren't I? :D lolz I never really thought of that. sounds like a good idea to me! It would also make sense too, if you think about how Emblem desoul's SOS for each element of life is unbalanced. My reasoning for this would be that you can't make artificial desouls without making the SOS unbalanced. Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking, except I kinda figured that Turpis had some sort of intention for doing this, possibly a good one. I don't think he's the type of guy to do something just because he is curious. hmm.... We could say that. It's never really been specified whether keyblades with chains and those without, have different abilities. Again, a keyblade is a keyblade is a keyblade. however we have yet to even see a keyblade without a keychain. so I suppose we should be a tad creative here, let's just not drag it out too far. The problem that we would have is that Kairi is supposed to be the Keyblader of purity. However, unlike the other keybladers, Kairi is a KM since her keyblade does have a Keychain. Heh, heh. completely forgot about that. I'm down with that. as for the back stories, we'll probably end up working on those piece by piece. That's pretty much how we work. we tend to jump from one thing to another, and then jump on back. not very productive, but it all works out eventually. You would need a real person to do this. You can't artificially produce hearts (at least from what we already know). Just think back to Halloween town in KH1. That artificial heart didn't work, now did it? It was close to being perfect, but it did quite make it.
Well how the H*** do you artificially create a heartless? How the H*** am I supposed to know. lolz. Plot hole. Edit: Lolz, excuse me for my language. I probably should remake Eclipse's Keyblades.
Pure breed desouls were never created. they are born through natural methods such as loss of memory, obsessiveness, etc. However, the chance of a pure breed being created is rare. Emblem desouls were artificially created, that's why they have emblems. Turpis was the one who created the emblem desouls. I would like to use Brexen's idea for determining an emblem desoul's stats, except instead of being determined by the strength of the will, it should be determined by the SOS. for the Keyblades, C and E are my favorites. Turpis starts the research on desouls. Xehanort should then steal his research and start making things get out of control.
I've always picture turpis seeing the desouls as a way to rid the worlds of heartless. Perhaps in his mind, Desouls can be controlled. Desouls listen and obey their master unlike Heartless who eventually turn on those with hearts who try to control them. This is just an idea for a scene here on some world before Oriens dies. Oriens and turpis are confronting each other. turpis is wielding Desouls. *Oriens looks at Turpis with a stern look.* Oriens: "Why?! Why are you helping these creatures. These creatures will bring about the universe's destruction!" Turpis: "You're wrong! These creatures can be controlled! They are the solution to ridding the worlds of heartless once and for all! I massed produced these creatures for that very reason. They listen and obey. We can keep their numbers to a minimal." Oriens: "Are you out of your mind? Look around Turpis. These creatures are already out of control. They are attacking innocent people! I cannot allow that!" Turpis: "So what if we loose a person here or there? It's all for the greater good." Oriens: "They must be stopped!" Turpis: "They must be CONTROLLED!" ------------------------------------------------------------- You get the basic idea here. That's how I've always viewed Turpis. As for the how the Keybladers keyblades are different form Previous keyblades, there really shouldn't be a difference here. Anyone can wield a keyblade if they have a strong heart. Anyone. However, not everyone can be a keyblade master. KMs have keychains on their keyblades while normal Keybladers don't. Keyblades are keyblades. The only thing that varies in keyblades is their abilities. Again, I really don't agree with the whole Blaze with heartless thing. It's just not him in my eyes. Controlling heartless has always been symbolic for a person who is being consumed by darkness. I think he's all for saving the worlds, not helping the heartless. plus, I don't see him as the type of guy to use minions. but that's me. We'll have to see what the others think.
