Well, you never know. We don't exactly know when Nomura decided to put Xion in - whether it after KH II was made or whatever. I mean, it's perfectly possible that he forgot the "He was the only one I liked" detail since he's only human. But I don't know. You could be right.
I went to Disneyland Paris twice and Disney World once. I'd love to go again but my parents think that I'm too old for it.
I love all three but Goofy is probably my favourite. He is clumsy, gullible and not bright but he is kind, optimistic and determined. He also makes me laugh a lot and I like the fact that he is such a caring and adorable father.
Very fun cartoon to watch. It's a good attempt to reminice old Disney shorts and some of the old Disney films, including not-so popular ones such as The Black Cauldron. Am quite sad it's not on DisneyCinemagic at the moment. :(
Jesse McCartney for Ven. I don't care if he was a pop singer. He was fine as Roxas.
I don't think that they have moved away from Disney - it's just that most of the Disney characters (with exceptions like Goofy and Mickey Mouse) are less involved in the main storyline than they were in the first game.
I never said that you had to play a character to have a good one either. Sorry if I sounded snappy (and I hope that I don’t sound snappy here – I did have a rather difficult morning so please whack me if a magic stick if I do) but I did hear a few people go round saying that Aqua is going to be a way better character than Kairi, for no real reason which does not relate to “Like OMG she can fight!†While I do like some fighter females, I am a little sick of people going “A female character needs to pick up a weapon, fight, look badass, say that all men are sexist pigs and show how masculine she is to be an awesome and strong character because a girl who is girly/gets kidnapped/is physically weak/is a magic user/is a white mage/is self-sacrificing /doesn’t fight at all, she is a doormat and/or has no character developmentâ€. A good-looking male character that behaves in a similar way to the ‘weak’ female characters does not usually get so much bad treatment. And this is coming from a feminist. And then there are the female characters who get picked on, no matter how they dress, act and behave (and a sexy guy who behaves in a similar way is regarded as cool) but that’s a different rant entirely. So no, I certainly did not miss the bit you highlighted. On the contrary, it was the bit that drew my attention the most. I think I just overreacted to it. Okay Lin was a bit of a bad example, especially since it’s been a while since I’ve played BOF: DQ so please correct me if I’ve got anything wrong (oh, and by the way. I’ve found another of the six people in the world who play this game. Hooray! :D ). While I did not dislike Lin, she did feel to me as if she was only there to be a third party member and I really wanted to see more of her. But you have given me a better idea of possible personality traits to work on. I’d say that she was brave, strong in her beliefs, caring of others but distrusting of others at times, especially the Rangers (although softens a bit after spending time with Ryu). And I’m looking at this based on what her emotions and actions tell me about her personality, not on just her emotions and actions (since emotions and actions don’t always equal good character development). And I did see some personality in Kairi, based on her actions and emotions as well, no matter how plot devicey they were. Okay, I’ll change my mind and say that Lin does have more personality than Kairi but that doesn’t mean I think that she is that great a character. She is still one of those characters who I feel I haven’t seen much about but I am still interested in her for some reason and want to find more about her (and I do feel the same with Kairi – I do see personality in her but it does not stop her from being flat and I want to see more of her). And actually, Nina’s one of my favourite characters in the game. That’s okay then. I’m not giving her full 100% either. :) As long as she has some sort of chance. Riku’s my favourite character but I’m not giving him 100% chance because it’s perfectly possible that his characterization could mess up too (I liked Cloud’s character in FF VII and the way it changed but I got annoyed when he got back to his old self in Advent Children because I didn’t think that there was a good enough reason for it). While I don’t want to be biased against Kairi, I don’t want to be too disappointed either.
Spoiler Well, I just thought that with is characterisation, him overcoming the darkness and his insecurities and learning about following the path of Twilight, he was cool and interesting enough already so I kind of thought...why on earth would he need a Keyblade after all that? Is it fanservice or something? He's proven himself to be a very good character already. But never mind. He still remains one of my favourite characters. Besides, Nomura seems to have a reason which is more than just fanservice, so I'll see how he is done in the later games too.
The last CD I 'bought' was the Hare Hare Yukai CD which came with my Limited Edition Haruhi Suzumiya DVD. If that doesn't count, then the last CD I remember buying was BoA's 'Vivid' single.
I don't mind having Tidus there. It's not really unexpected. What I'd like to know though is who would the FF VI hero featuring in this game, since there wasn't really a protagonist in FF VI.
Spoilers What do we know about Aqua? She has a Keyblade and can fight. Awesome! Give her a medal. We don't know a thing about her personality yet. Being a fighter does not equal a greatly developed character (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter's Lin was even less developed than Kairi and she could fight - not to mention that she had more screentime than Kairi and was an important character too). Hell, we don't even know if she will actually be playable (we know that it's Terra, Ven and another character but that character isn't confirmed to be Aqua - it could be Mickey Mouse, for all we know). I'm not trying to bash Aqua or say that she is going to be worse than Kairi but I haven't got enough proof of whether Nomura is on the right or wrong foot with her yet. So I'm going to do the same with Kairi and say that it could go either way with Aqua too. I hope it's going to go a good way but we don't know that for sure yet. It's too early to say. We don't even know what he plans for Kairi. Yeah, I agree that he didn't do very well with her in the first two games (and I wasn't impressed when she or Riku got Keyblades, even though I thought that Riku was the most developed character - to me they felt a little like last minute attempts to make both of them look cool) and that Namine was developed better I'm afraid that isn't convincing enough for me that her character development is down the lavatory yet. All she has done is killed a few Heartless and said that she isn't going to be left behind anymore but she hasn't done anything too ridiculous like joined the party the same level as the other party members. She might spend her next appearance training to become a better fighter. She might even get her own game as a main character, for all we know. Nomura could, as I say before, just screw her up either because he is lazy or because he just hasn't seen what's wrong with her yet. I'm not saying that there's a huge possibility that Kairi is going to get great character development but it's unfair not to give her at least some sort of chance. And it's silly if you say that she is definitely going to get great characterisation too. I don't want to be biased either way. So I'm going to remain neutral on this situation (if that makes any sense). End spoilers
Actually, I think that you're being too pessimistic (no offence). Maybe Kairi will great character development. Maybe she won't. I want to be open-minded to the fact that it could go either way. But I want to give her a chance because if I don't then I might have a bad bias against her if she does get good character development and therefore it would be unfair on Nomura. It's possible that Nomura doesn't care about Kairi but we really don't know that for sure. Maybe he intended her for be a good character but unintentionally didn't present her very well (which is possible - people who make canon aren't perfect and canon is going to have mistakes). He may just have not found a good opportunity for her to develop her character yet. Maybe he's already planned something for her that we don't know about - and may do a good job at it or screw it up. But it's unfair to say that Kairi has completely gone down the drain and can never come back up again in terms of characterization. I just want to be open-minded to the fact that Nomura may or may not develop her.
I don't visit these forums very often. Occasionally I come here but I've ventured to other fandoms for a while. Anyway, I don't dislike Kairi. I think that she needs a lot of work on but I do think she has potential and do not think that she should be taken out of the game. I'm curious to see how Nomura uses her in the future.
3/4 English. 1/4 Irish. Although I have some Welsh blood somewhere and some French ancestry.
When I said that hate is a bit much I meant "Well, I understand if somebody doesn't like a fictional character for not doing anything/much but actual hate is a bit too strong of an emotion". But then I don't see much point in having really strong hatred for fictional characters anyway. Although people are entitled to their own opinion.
Arrived a few days ago. It isn't as good as the original FF VII but the story fittied better with it than I expected. The battle system is a little weird but quite fun. I also like the characters very much.
If a fictional character doesn't do anything, the worst I might feel is that I don't like the character very much. But actual hate is a bit much.
Okay, I should have read more of the interview and I apologise for that (although I definitely did read the quote you put which is funny because if Disney did make him pull something out then they must have seen seen something going on, even if they hardly ever saw the game being made - either Nomura didn't choose his words clearly enough or something went wrong with IGN's translation). But I have read it all now and my point still stands. However, if you want me to read then please do note that I said this in my last post: So my point was (and still is) that Disney had some say in what Nomura put into the game (and no, he did not say that the Disney worlds and characters were the only problem – he said they were the main problem - unless, again, he didn't mean it word for word or the interview got it wrong - and there weren’t any big issues when developing the game, so I don’t think that his freedom was hugely limited) so he isn’t allowed to go completely nuts and do whatever he likes. And I cannot think of any possible reason why they would want to limit Kairi's personality. Jasmine wasn't perfect - she was naive at the start of Aladdin and she could also be a bit bad-tempered and follow her emotions too much which could get her into trouble. Ariel was curious and daring, which once resulted in her getting chased by a shark and got her into trouble with her father. Meg worked with Hades and began to have moral dilemmas of trying to win her freedom from Hades and doing the right thing (not to mention that she actually died in Hercules). I’m getting sick of Disney being blamed for everything that went wrong in Kingdom Hearts anyway. So I was actually mostly agreeing with what you said.
Alice in Wonderland made me cry when the song 'Very Good Advice' was played (the background music did not help). I still feel pathetic for it.
Spoilers for game throughout post That would be interesting if they did that. Although to be fair, Nomura only let her kill a few Heartless. He could have done worse – she could have jumped off that balcony, done a stunt in mid-air, summoned her Keyblade while doing so, landed perfectly on her two feet and vanquished the Heartless easily. And she would have joined the party at the same level as the other characters. Still, I was actually disappointed that she got a Keyblade. I hoped that she would be one of those heroines who would prove her worth without having to fight (like Mara of the Acoma in Daughter of the Empire). But then I was disappointed that Riku got a Keyblade as well (I didn't think he needed one to be a good character). If Kairi does have any flaws, it’s that she’s impulsive. Jumping off the balcony generally wasn’t a very good idea. Although nobody’s blamed her for it yet. It’s possible that this flaw could be worked on later. And in regards to Riku, she did say, “Just kidding” in that scene but she also says before that “You know…Riku’s changed” and eventually tells Sora not to change. I don’t know. I think that she was a little suspicious of Riku’s recent behaviour and wasn’t sure if she could trust him anymore and just said it in the wrong way (although I think she realised that he wasn’t such a bad person later and afterwards wanted both of them to return home). She does have a personality. Not much of one (nor was it displayed very well), but it’s there. She laughs a lot and even jokes with Riku at one point (Riku: “And you’re just as lazy as he is” Kairi: “So you’ve noticed” or her laughing at her surprising Sora). This kind of shows that she is cheerful and perhaps has a sense of humour as well. She calls Sroa a lazy bum, tells him not to slack, gets annoyed at first when Sora says that she can’t go with him. And she demands him to give back her lucky charm and will not let Riku leave after she is reunited with Sora. Perhaps she is a little demanding as well? Regardless, these are possible personality traits that can be worked on and expanded in fanfic (you can't tell exactly how a character is supposed to behave unless he or she is your own creation anyway - you can make them believable but not exactly as how their original creator would have intended them). The problem with Kairi is that while she does have a lot of emotions, most of them seem brief and she suffers from being too cheerful most of the time. Which some people interpret as no personality. I think she has flaws but they weren't shown very well and need some work on. No she doesn’t stalk Cloud. She is clearly attracted to him but she is too shy to admit them while Aeris (who I thought was one of the emotionally strongest in FF VII) was pretty open about her feelings. Fixed. Now I don't know what you would realistically do but frankly I would be running away crying if I was unfortunate enough to be encountered by a bunch of Shadows. Actually, I think that Axel kidnapped her to reunite her with Namine (there’s that dialogue between him, Riku and Namine which takes place around after Sora leaves Twilight Town for Yen Sid’s castle - I don't know if you played Final Mix or not, but I have). However, his plans went up in smoke when Kairi got away from him and Saix appeared to use her as bait for Sora. Anyway, I think that Kairi has a little bit of personality but she still needs a lot of work on. I have interpreted possible flaws but Nomura still needs to work on them. Actually, I don’t think that most of the KH cast were that well developed actually, especially not a lot of the Organization (I thought that Xaldin was the worst. And no, being a villain does not give him an excuse). Still, I’m giving Kairi a chance because I don’t want to be horribly biased against her if she actually does get good character development. I thought that Xaldin had the worst development and Axel’s characterisation just confused me (he was an evil, manipulative and seemingly heartless backstabber in COM but he seemed quite soft in KH II to the point where he even regretted kidnapping Kairi and there was no good explanation for it). But I’m giving them chances as well. I think that Nomura did screw up parts of the game but it would be unfair on his part if I don’t think that he’s forever doomed with Kairi. He may or may not care for her character. But we really don’t know what he plans for her in the first place – whether she’s there for convenient use or he has some great plans for her in the future (which he may or may not screw up). Nomura creates the games. But he apparently did have to take stuff out at Disney’s request (http://www.kh2.co.uk/?page=NI/IGN), so he isn’t allowed to just do whatever he likes and Disney do have some say in what goes in the game, even if they aren’t really in charge. Although I don’t see why Disney would limit Kairi’s personality anyway so people shouldn’t blame them. It’s bad enough when people blame Disney for no Axel/Roxas romance (if it weren’t for Disney in the first place, there would be no Kingdom Hearts and therefore no Axel/Roxas subtext for people to argue over). End spoilers
