kingdom Hearts Theories

Discussion in 'General & Upcoming Kingdom Hearts' started by Zer0-Vestige, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. Zer0-Vestige Merlin's Housekeeper

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    After playing a kingdome hearts marathon (watched BBS walkthrough), I got few theories whic may bring questions.
    BBS:
    - Young Xehanort said: "This island is just too small" I wondering how he got out?
    - Young Xehanort looks almost like Terra, wonder if they are related
    KH1:
    - At first KH, a voice guided Sora in Station of Awakening, could it be Ventus?
    - Where was The King during the whole KH period?
    - When Sora released Kairi heart by stabbing himself with the Keyblade, wouldn't that release Ventus heart as well?
    - I believe that Sora's Heartless is also Ventus Heartless
    KH COM:
    - Why was Zexion and Lexaeus sent to the castle?
    - If I am correct, Ansem report said that the castle had 13 upper floors while 12 basement floors. Which Sora and Riku traveled. Where is Ventus room then? (Chamber of Awakening i believe?)
    KH 358/2 Days:
    - Xemnas seems to have some memories of Terra as he is mentions: "So sleep has taken you yet"
    KH Coded:
    - When Yen Sid mentions that Xehanort is having extra help, I wonder does he meant Vanitas, his younger self, or someone else
    -Mickey says that he found Ventus heart location and all they need is Terra heart location, where is Terra's heart location?

    Things to worry about:
    - Hope that Xehanort doesn't go after Yen Sid just like he did with Master Eraqus
    - That Terra's Heart isn't lost forever

    One more thing that came to my mind: Who is truly the real mastermind? I believe that Xehanort is also another puppet...a powerful one
     
  2. JustANobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    BBS:
    • Probably the same way Riku did, with the power of darkness. Or maybe like the Beast in the first game, by sheer force of will.
    • Spiked up hair seems to be a pretty popular hairstyle in the Kingdom Hearts universe, so while it's an interesting theory, similar hair alone isn't enough to go on as we also never exactly get to see his face.

    KH1:
    • I initially thought this as well, though Word of God states that it was King Mickey (however, Nomura's been known to lie for the sole purpose of leading people off-track so whether or not this is valid has yet to be revealed).
    • I'm pretty sure King Mickey was traversing the worlds as well, as you run into Gummi blocks he leaves behind and eventually gets stuck in the Realm of Darkness that lays on the other side of Kingdom Hearts.
    • That's more or less been debated upon for a while now, though it looks like it's leaning toward the "yes, Ventus' heart was also released and remains inside of Roxas" answer. What I'm curious about is where the hell Sora's heart went.

    KH: COM:
    • Zexion and Lexaeus, I'm sure, were sent to Castle Oblivion for the same reason Vexen was: to investigate suspicions of a coux and spy on Marluxia, Larxene, and Axel.
    • Ventus' body lies in the Chamber of Awakening, which is a yet-to-be discovered room that only Aqua knows the whereabouts of. It's shown in 358/2 Days that Axel was sent to look for this room but couldn't find it. It's possible it's like the Digital Twilight Town in where it's on a separate plane altogether.

    KH: 358/2 Days:
    • This has more or less been confirmed.

    KH RE: coded:
    • He probably meant Maleficent (as she's seen in the trailer) or maybe even Braig, since the majority of Organization XIII seems to be back in action. Though, Vanitas is also a strong possibility, and I'm willing to bet he's inside of Sora just waiting for the right moment to come out.
    • Terra's heart is wherever Xehanort is, as Xehanort, too, is back in action.

    Things to worry about:
    - I highly doubt Xehanort will be going after Master Yen Sid. Rather, he'd be seeking out the ingredients for the infamous X-Blade. So, he'll definitely be looking for Ventus. As I'd stated before, I'm pretty sure Vanitas is somewhere inside of Sora, so Sora might also become a target.
    - Terra's heart will not be lost forever, probably. He's been fighting Xehanort this whole time (or at least until he was turned into a Heartless/Nobody) and he has friends on the outside fighting for him. I think he'll get a happy ending.

    ONE LAST THING:
    For this particular arc, Xehanort is most likely the sole mastermind. There's no way he'd be someone's puppet because he's that powerful and merciless. The very thought of him being under someone else's command not only makes no sense, but would probably only further enrage the last of the fanbase; "What? He WASN'T the one behind everything?! SMD, NOMURA. AWKJTHAKWJThJAWKT" Y'know?
    For future arcs, though, maybe.

    Hope this helps clear things up. c:
     
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    This is a popular theory, though for some reason I believe it was supposed to be King Mickey?
    I don't know if this is true but I think Roxas may have contained Ventus's heart? It would explain why he was able to have feelings even as a Nobody... though other Nobodies (Axel) also displayed this trait--though Axel says towards the end of Kingdom Hearts II that any semblance of emotion on his part was due to his friendship with Roxas. Perhaps a heart as pure as Ven's would have a sort of aura to it.
    For the same reason that the rest of the Organization members were there: it was intended as another headquarters for them.
    The Chamber of Waking holds Ventus's body, yes. Axel was ordered by Xemnas to search for the room but it doesn't appear that he ever found it. Aqua designed the Castle intending for it to be difficult for anyone to find what she hid inside.
    This isn't the first time--in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix there is an additional scene with Xemnas approaching Aqua's armor, which he greets as "old friend."

    Edit: JustANobody beat me to most of these :C
     
  4. Zer0-Vestige Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Think about it, who gave his younger self the time travel powers? And i doubt Xehanort found way out by sheer will, his heartless himself mention the islands are like a prison sorrounded by water. Plus about the Beast, his world was lost in darkness. Still, I know someone else is behind the whole thing
     
  5. JustANobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    "Take a look at this tiny place - to the heart seeking freedom, this island is a prison surrounded by water."

    As an island, it is surrounded by water. I think that was meant to be more of a literal meaning than a symbolic one. As Riku is only a kid, it would've been extremely difficult for him to get off the island and make it somewhere else (especially with such a list that Kairi provided, oye). He saw the darkness as an easier way to escape the island.

    Whether or not his world was lost in darkness, his heart was not and it was his desire and will to find and rescue Belle that allowed him to travel to Hollow Bastion. It's still very possible Xehanort managed to do the same thing.

    Sorry, Misty. D: <3
     
  6. Zer0-Vestige Merlin's Housekeeper

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    so who to you think will be the new main antagonist after "xehanort saga" is done? That person obviously must be the mastermind, we can't just ignored that fact
     
  7. Krowley Moderator

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    Any theory I had has already been stated.
    I only have input on 2 things;

    1) I always considered the "Station of awakening" voice to be that of a heart.
    In BBS, in the beginning cut scenes, when Ventus enters the SoA, the voice declares "I am a new Heart"

    2) The only thing Xehanort would be a puppet to is perhaps Darkness. I can't think of any greater threat.

    Perhaps the end of the Xehanort Saga is the end of the series in general.
     
  8. Zer0-Vestige Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I don't think so because i believe there be other kingdom hearts game
     
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    I would like to point out that Yen Sid's precise sentiments were wondering if Sora, Riku, and Mickey would be enough to face "not a single one of him [Xehanort]."

    Then I would like to point out the end of the Special Trailer for KH3D...


    Nomura's said he wants to continue the KH series after the end of the Xehanort Saga, with Sora remaining as the protagonist.
     
  10. Zer0-Vestige Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I choke on my gum realizing this, HOW THE HELL DID HE...oh
     
  11. Krowley Moderator

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    In that case, I don't know who the major threat would be, but I have a feeling Braig might stick around.
    It's always implied he knows more than he shows...
     
  12. Zer0-Vestige Merlin's Housekeeper

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    True, I starting to suspect him...someone needs to keep an eye on him
     
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    Of course; he does need one~ *ba-dum TSSSSSSSSS*
     
  14. Zer0-Vestige Merlin's Housekeeper

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    As if! Some members are suspecting him...wonder if he told Xemnas if Marluxia and Larxene were going to betray the Organization. Then again, he been Xemnas right hand man -.-
     
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    You, sir, win my lack of heart and a soul.
     
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    Guess he shouldn't have been playing with arrow guns now shouldn't he?
     
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    oh, and what am I?

    I know there is someone accent that goes with this
     
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    I think that we can consider Sora's Heartless as Roxas Heartless ONLY as Naminé were also "Sora's Nobody" as Kairi does not posses Darkness she could not become a Heartless and then a Nobody, yet she did only because she was inside of Sora, this made Naminé be Kairi's Nobody just as Sora (think of it! She has the power over Sora's Heart, and those hearts connected to him only). But Roxas couldn't Himself make a Heartless either! As his heart was pure Light (just like an artificial princess of heart) because his heart was just light he lingered in Sora's body and became Roxas, yet Sora recovered his body what made him crash (as seen in 358/2) and his body must be the same as Naminé truly made of nothing. It was stated sometimes the similarity between Sora and Ansem/Xemnas probably because even as Xemnas he still had a Heart (as he had two when became a heartless just like sora. actually 3 Terra/Eraqus/Xehanort and Sora/Ven/Kairi) even though Xemnas is confuse about his emotions (probably because when he became Terranort he got all confuse as who he was.. Xemnas must had inherit this confusion himself.. and only belives he does not has emotions, and maybe he could be able to use a Keyblade also!)
     
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    i have played the first kingdom hearts quite a few times and i believe that on releaseing all three hearts within sora (kairi, ventus, and his own) that kairi then took all three hearts and gave sora his back (this is all speculation) but after the moment when sora got the keyblade back in the first kingdom hearts (when riku took it from him and then said "my freinds are my power" which is also a ventus quote) he obtained the ability to use the keybloade just with his own heart, that's why when kairi gave his heart back (once he'd become a heartless and then they did the whole cuddling thing and he came back) he could still use the keyblade and kairi is now storing both her own and ventuses heart within her, she also was accidentally given the power to wield a keyblade by aqua in bbs, not to mention she's a princess of heart (or whatever it is) so i'm thinking that kairi could have an extremely large part of story for kh3!!!!!