Kingdom Hearts So if Riku hadn't turned to the darkness...

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  1. Sora_Hero_Of_Light Destiny Islands Resident

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    What would have happened? Would they all still be at the island like nothing ever happened? Wouldn't he have gotten the Keyblade? Would Sora open the door instead?
     
  2. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    they wouldn't still be at the island coz would of gotten destroyed anyway... but Sora may have not been the keyblade master.. if riku hdan't led him into the darkness he wouldn't of got it.. it might of been riku who would obtain it you never know 0.o
     
  3. Kairi9020 Traverse Town Homebody

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    I doubt Sora would have opened the door. It doesn't seem like he would have had the guts.
     
  4. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Not exactly. Riku would have still be temted by darkness. Riku somehow is in love with Kairi, but he hides hes true emotions to her becuase he doesn't wants to break hes best friend's heart, Sora. Riku might wanted to use darkness anyways so that he could have impressed Kairi and Kairi would fall in love with Riku, leaving Sora lonely and sad, making full of vengeance becuase of Riku stealing the love of his life. By Sora falling into vengeance, he will use any resort to avenge hes broken heart and destroy Riku. And Kairi would hate him and he will be still lonely leading us to a result of Sora staying forever in darkness.
    Meaning that any evil one can use Sora's abilitys to control both a keyblade and darkness.

    Thats a strong reason why Riku wouldn't leave darkness.

    ^^Rose^^
     
  5. Sora_Hero_Of_Light Destiny Islands Resident

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    Wow, that is very good explanation
     
  6. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    i really wanna know were that came from ^
     
  7. Sora_Hero_Of_Light Destiny Islands Resident

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    This is off topic but do you have the link to the "you are this FF character" quiz?
     
  8. rikufanattic Merlin's Housekeeper

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    We'd probably be looking at a BBS but for the newer generations. If Riku had taken the Keyblade he might have done things different than Sora. I would doubt that Sora would give into the darkness because Riku, if he were on the side of light, would guide him into the light.

    Sure the two of them would still have feelings for Kairi since they would've been fighting to get her back.
    Though since Sora didn't seem to have the guts to open the door that meant probably Kairi's heart wouldn't have gone into another person's body. Meaning that they only thing they would have had to worry about would be the darkness swallowing up the islands.

    Somehow I got the feeling that all three of them would've ended up in different places if Riku had taken the Keyblade.

    Then again since Sora was afraid of the darkness the darkness may have used that fear to contorl him to open the door. Meaning Riku would have to go and try and get him back...

    There's a lot of possiblities you know?
     
  9. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Thats another good theory!
     
  10. Repliku Chaser

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    If Riku had not been tempted by 'Ansem' to unlock the door to his world, things would have been different. I will not say though that Sora could not also have been tempted. He wanted to go out and explore things just as Riku did. However, Sora was -not- the kid that had to be tempted to do it. Riku was the one and only one who could have other than maybe Kairi.

    Riku also did not open the door to show off to Kairi and all. As a matter a fact, it seems that Riku, though he -liked- Kairi, was actually stepping back and trying to encourage Sora to follow his heart and ask the girl out because he could tell she liked Sora more that way. Riku was goading him, and yes, Riku may have liked her too, but he certainly was not trying to 'steal her away' by doing something like that.

    Riku, even though he opened the door, just simply wanted to get out and explore and leave behind a place. He had no 'malice' in the deed. I doubt he understood how bad it would even get, though he was unafraid of the Darkness itself. The way I see it, he was tempted that by opening the door to Destiny Islands Heart, he was connecting the place to other worlds, so taking the raft, they could go elsewhere. If he had thought in any other way, he would not have put most of his work (which he seemed to be the one that built most of it while Sora and Kairi were doing whatever) into it. When Xehanort found Kairi, he was determined to send her out to find the Keyblade wielder, and so he sent her out on the water, by his notes and she ended up on DI. It is easy to see how a kid, even as smart as Riku was, could be duped if his hopes were to just get away and do some adventuring and such.

    So, if Riku didn't open the door, then all would have been okay for a little while. However, Ansem might have plagued him and other such things and found a way there any way. Also, if King Mickey were watching things he might have had to do something. Riku's real 'fall from grace' was more to the fact that he was upset at Sora for not coming to help Kairi and instead Sora's new 'friends' would also not let him go with them. Donald was pretty adamant and Sora's responses to the contrary were rather weak. Riku also ended up at Hollow Bastion because that's where Ansem would want him as he is the Keyblade wielder intended. However, what if Sora had gone there instead? What if Riku had gotten the Keyblade? He would have gone to rescue Sora, I would think.

    Really, Ansem just used a couple flaws Riku had, and other than those flaws, Riku was a great kid. He was caring, honest, attempting to help others, and would go out on a limb for his friends. He trained a lot of those kids in self defense, to include Sora. He also was there to support them when down. Riku's flaw of insecurity and a desire to go do what a lot of kids seek to and adventure...they weren't bad flaws. They just were horribly used against him. Now taking Sora's lack of perception flaw and fact he just follows his heart, I think that Sora could have had at least as many problems as Riku, because though the flaws are also not bad, I could see how they could have been used worst against him.

    Of course, the only way, as I mentioned before, that Riku could not have opened that door, was if Sora were the intended Keyblade wielder instead. With how Sora was so oblivious at unlocking the door to the Underdrome...people shouldn't be so surprised that he might open the door to Destiny Islands' Heart under the same premise that it was told to Riku. Sora also, as was shown in KH, does have darkness in his heart, or otherwise he could not have been made into a Shadow. Kairi had no Darkness and therefore, she could not be changed that way. Sora also shows some places in KH2 where you wonder if Riku wouldn't have done much better in the same scene. In the end, I say the possibilities range but Sora if he had been the intended wielder all along, could have turned out just as bad or worse than Riku. He had 'jealousy' of Riku too, even on the tree while the three talked about getting away and Riku thanked Kairi. The flaws in Sora and Riku are minor but both could have been used.
     
  11. Darkcloud Word of advice: Let the wookie win. He's Chuck N

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    In all honesty, I'd really rather not think about what would happen; I'm certain that if Riku got the keyblade instead of Sora, we definitely would not like what would happen, not just to the Destiny Island crew, but to Mickey and the others.
     
  12. Hakurei Reimu Take my hand. And then I'll fly with you right up

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    Well...the way I c it is...

    Riku mite have been able to join Sora's journey during KH1, and simply put, there'd probably b an alternative storyline for CoM and KHII mainly because Sora was out looking for Riku...
     
  13. Sora_Hero_Of_Light Destiny Islands Resident

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    Dang, that is the biggest post and with the best anwser
     
  14. Invader Jack Twilight Town Denizen

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    I believe that they still would have all been separated and Riku would have had the Keyblade and been the one fighting the Heartless and Ansem. Kairi still would've been in danger, and Sora still would have ended up on Traverse Town, but he wouldn't be able to fight the Heartless or anything. He just would have been there, and hopefully would have returned to Destiny Islands in the end, but Riku probably would have still been on a different world, and it's just all complicated...
     
  15. Zexion06 Traverse Town Homebody

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    1. Perhaps nothing WOULD have happened, but that's boring.
    2. Yeah, I guess so.
    3. I don't think he would have gotten it.
    4. No, Sora's not the "Darkness" type of person. It would be weird if every switched roles though.
     
  16. celeborn81 Destiny Islands Resident

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    0_0...... Okay, some of you guys are going to much into this. Repliku, really awesome answer. I totally agree with all of that

    As forthe rest, we're not really contemplating Sora and Riku switching roles; just if Riku hadn't turned to the darkness. And also, didn't someone say in some interview that Riku was the real intended keyblade master. It went to Sora when Riku turned to darkness.

    Now if Riku had ended up with the keyblade, I get the idea that he'd be more dedicated in trying to restore his world and finding Kairi that Sora was. Half the time during KH1, you could almost forget that Sora was doing anything other than sealing keyholes. For some reason, I get the feeling it would be different with Riku.
     
  17. March of the Dogs Banned

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    ... then this game wouldn't exist.
     
  18. celeborn81 Destiny Islands Resident

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    I wouldn't say that. Just that the game would be extremely different.
     
  19. Repliku Chaser

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    I agree. The game with Riku as the Keyblade wielder and not having turned to Darkness would have had to be more ...right words here...epic and dramatic? What I mean by that is that Sora did, as someone else said, wander and sometimes you could almost forget what his mission was because he sidetracked so much. With Riku having not turned to Darkness, he'd have done what was necessary but I doubt you'd ever actually lose his sense of duty and what he was out to do as he does not just follow his heart and let it lead him wherever. He's more a logical thinker. Also, I think the story may have been more grim and Disney would have had a hard time covering up the very dark ambiance that loomed in the background. There's a very deep dark story back behind all the cute smiles, antics etc of the Disney people and Riku not turning to Darkness probably would have revealed it more and made the game a higher rating (as in not suitable for under Teens).
     
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