Christian School Suspends Gay Student and Fires Mother

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  1. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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  2. Amaury Chaser

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    You know, sometimes I just want to strangle these people.

    There is nothing wrong with being homosexual. It's not a sin, it's not weird, it's not abnormal, nothing! It's simply a lifestyle choice, and the faster people realize that, the better the world will be for homosexuals and bisexuals.
     
  3. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    It is not even a lifestyle choice, it is a genetic predisposition as well. One does not simply start out straight and decide to be gay one day, and the same with the opposite.
     
  4. Noroz I Wish Happiness Always Be With You

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    Oh boy. Never seen this before...

    There's a reason many people dislike/hate religion in general and particularly how it is in the US. And people wonder why...

    Disgusting, to say the least - But not surprising.
     
  5. Patman Bof

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    Wut ?! O_o
    Has the gay gene been discovered ?
     
  6. Shadox D. Twilight Town Denizen

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    I also want to strangle people like this. There is nothing wrong about being gay. If someone doesn't like the way we are then they can f*ck off, not make our lives hard. We don't bash on straight people because they are straight, we don't make things super hard for them. It just furiates me that people have problems with us. We are people too, we deserve everything that straight people have. Aren't all people supposed to be equal?

    Never belived in any religion myself, but I know that lots of religions bash on being gay -_-
     
  7. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    ... No? I said predisposition. As far as I know, everyone is a bisexual with a more specific preference to varying degrees, and these preferences are not up to the individual.

    Perhaps I take the subject for granted, but I have always heard the subject spoken of as no choice of the subject's. I certainly see no reason for a person to experience attraction to the same sex by choice because that is a disaster for survival. Unless there is a determined cause aside from genetics, it must be genetic... Correct? Unless there is some third wheel.
     
  8. Patman Bof

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    Well, it could be nature, nurture, or nature and nurture, but as far as I know we haven' t coined anything specifically related to sexual orientation in our genes so we can' t completely rule out the "nurture only" option yet.

    Even if we do find a "gay gene" eventually it wouldn' t necessarily mean those who have it will become gay no matter what, it could merely increase the odds and leave the key role to nurture : http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/nov/14/gene-raises-suicide-risk

    All I can tell is that we are genetically predisposed to feel love and sexual attraction, that is as far as I would go for now (not sure how you ruled out the possibility to be 100% heterosexual btw).

    Now, to get back on the subject :
    This is the second time I read this kind of thing on this forum, apparently school boards are broken. Whose job is it to fix them ?
     
  9. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    Yeah, I said predisposition for that reason.

    I ruled out 100% heterosexual because even within each larger sexuality, there are specific preferences which are also not the choice of the subject. Age, hair color and eye preferences; preferences for different heights and figures... Should they find a male who is attractive in all of their specific preferences like that, they may quickly question their sexuality without thinking. I have seen it happen.

    I rule it out mainly because I believe it is not a switch, just that people lean more to one side than another for whatever reason. Calling yourself heterosexual and calling yourself homosexual are choices of identity. They create a binary, so that those who say one or the other think that they are 100% one or the other. What of bisexuals, then?

    No Surprise for Bisexual Men: Report Indicates They Exist

    I do believe that a certain measure of sexuality can be directed and it certainly can be repressed for both sides. When you have an attraction to both sexes growing up, you will be labeled gay and given a choice: be attracted to men and lose your chances with women, or be attracted to women and lose your chances with men.

    As a child, you cannot be both straight and gay. You need an identity. The average person will try to repress or redirect one of their attractions and strengthen the other; that is the logical conclusion. They will try to make a stand and decide who they are, based on the two options presented, not their own feelings.

    Their sex drive will be redirected in the direction they chose to seek because it would need an outlet and would already have that one as an option. In this way, a bisexual could eventually train themselves to be either straight or gay, whichever they choose.

    This is rather dangerous in my eyes, but can be more successful when the other attraction is already there.

    Most people have an automatic predisposition to one or the other, which is what creates the binary, but I believe that all people have a measure of bisexuality in them based my personal experiences and studies done. I see it as a sliding bar or sorts, or perhaps a spectrum, but not a binary switch.

    EDIT: On school boards: it is up to the school district and/or courts to settle disputes with the school district, I believe, but in the US, the majority in the area decides what "broken" is at this level, and as far as I can tell the majority feels that the boy is the thing that is "broken", so nothing will be done.
     
  10. Cloud.Strife. Traverse Town Homebody

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    This really ticks me off. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual. I am a christian, and nowhere in the ten commandments say it is a sin to be gay. Humans were given willpower to decide what they want to do with their lives, and other humans should accept them for this, religion withstanding. There is such a thing as going too far with religion, and this is a good example of it.
     
  11. Hiro ✩ Guardian

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    This is true. If you have an attraction, you can choose to follow it, but you don't choose to have it.
    This is why I simply stopped following a specific religion (Not atheist, I do belive there's a higher power). They're all so complicated. Just because a person is homosexual doesn't make it a bad thing. Bashing on homosexuals has gotten to a point where it's too extreme. You are entitled to your opinion, but you shouldn't force it on to others.