Kingdom Hearts II Did they have hearts?

But the thing is that roxas wasn't a normal nobody.He didn't have anything,supposedly.
He didn't have a body or soul like any of the other nobodies.Without one of the three main components of a person you can not have life.I think that vens heart was what was keeping roxas alive.

 

Ven's heart wasn't in Sora. ._.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l302/Akachounin/IMAG0054-1.jpg

Is that concrete enough proof for you? =\

Off-topic: 800th post. 8D

 

That doesn't prove anything but the fact that normal nobodies don't have hearts.
That doesn't mean anything in the case of roxas.He needed a basic support for his existance
which couldn't be a soul or body so vens heart is what he used and thats why he looks
just like him.

 

Oh my God.
Few things:

1. Where did you get the information that Roxas is a different kind of Nobody?
2. Nobodies are created when a strong person's heart is consumed by the Heartless. The shell that is left behind becomes a Nobody.
3. How does Ven's heart relate to any of this?

 

1.The secret ansem Reports
2.There was no shell left to leave so vens heart was the only thing to use as a medium.
3.Ven is in relation to roxas so it relates to the topic.

 

But Ven isn't even mentioned in KH or KHII.
There's a lack of connection there...

 

This is about whether Roxas has a heart not about the games.
Ven and roxas have a relationship and i know it and i think my theory
is right because everything you've asked me about i'm able to answer
with ease and minimal effort.

 

You still haven't explained how Ven and Roxas are related, or how Ven's heart could possibly be with Sora.

We can't make stuff up about the games if we're talking in an in-game sense. Otherwise things get mixed with the real world and they stop making sense. >_>;;

 

Ven is almost an exact duplicate of roxas.I think that once when sora was younger around the same time Ven was frozen that sora came in contact with kingdom hearts through the door on Destiny island.When sora came in contact vens heart transfered to him because it shows a clip once in KH or KHFM where sora sees the door with a keyhole on it. Since Vens hearts

 

Yeah...but doesn't BBS take place a while before KHI? So Sora couldn't have been in contact with him.

And again, even if his heart was transferred to Sora, it would have been released in Hollow Bastion when he impaled himself.

 

I can't explane Namine but i can explane Roxas. Roxas: the answer is a dead person...Diz. He gave Roxas a new personality to throw of organiztion 13. There dor emotions!

 

Maybe Ansem knew Ven somehow, and when Ven was going through that stuff in Birth By Sleep, he trusted Ansem with his heart or whatever. So when Sora lost his heart and Roxas was born, Ansem tried remaking Ven, explaining how they look exactly the same...I hatched a new theory 0_o

I'm pretty sure the only way Namine and Kairi have a connection through names is that "Nami" and "Kairi" can also mean "Sea"...and "ne" sounds like "no", hence "Nobody"...

 

Yupp That says it all!

 

No one asked you for one and second that debate was between me and Wolf which is now finished.

 

Since I'm some kind of sap like Sora, I'd like to think that since each of them became whole, that Sora's and Kairi's hearts were theirs as well. Also, the Keyblade can be wielded by Roxas, which means he must have had some kind or amount of a heart inside of him. Or so I think.

 

but Roxas and Namine DONT HAVE HEARTS!

because they are(where...never was) nobodys

thus no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

duh

 

I'n my opinion..I also agree with everyone (or almost everyone xD) because neither Roxas or Namine have hearts..since they are Nobodies..they only pretend to have one..

 

yes, because there nobodys thus not real

 

Chill out. He's saying his opinion. No need to be such an ass to him. =\

Besides, you never answered my questions. >_>;;

Exactly. We can't go beyond what the games/manga say, because we didn't create Kingdom Hearts.
Once we try to deny something that the game clearly states several times, the whole fandom kinda rips itself apart.

 

http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=28394&highlight=heart+terra

http://www.khinsider.com/latest/new-nomura-interview-hoards-of-new-information.html (you can search for any more liable links around if it isn't to satisfy)
The said "Farewell" video: http://www.kh-vids.net/newplayer.php?id=a85MGfTDIKA

Since we're all into this what the game fact and states.

It seems you don't understand that Roxas is a real special case, he's not like any normal Nobody. While Naminé is unique in her own way as well, the difference between the two is that, unlike her, multiple times, more on FM+ than ever, Roxas is hinted to perhaps have a heart. Is not official that Roxas has one, but what daxma keeps saying is not that farfetched from the clues that are constantly being thrown around so far. So don't hatch him for it by simply saying a certain quote from a questionable, mostly uncanon manga as the word that can be easily brushed off. For all we know that might be the case, that Roxas has Ven's heart. I don't know how else he looks, talks, and is basically Ven's twin, there might be another reason, but that path is possible. Even in the translated HG scan, Terra says to, I'm guessing Master Xehanort, of what he did with Ven's heart. Meaning, that there was obviously something done to it. What it is and how this connects to Roxas and Sora, is yet to be known. And Roxas even made Axel feel like he had a heart. Not that he had one, of course, yet it affected him enough. Whether it was from friendship or something else. Again. Who's to say. That's what these upcoming three games are for.

Roxas, according to the KH2 Novels, did think along the lines that Nobodies can't feel sadness or can't have feelings, but he was more questioning and lost on what it truly is, not that he strongly believed in it. He was following what he's been told. He's grown enough to tell Axel in the video that maybe you can have a heart, but can't feel it. There's no solid answer. Even people like Axel and Naminé, whose thoughts we go into (the novels), keep questioning themselves.

In pictures, scans, and trailers, there's been views of Terra watching a younger Sora and Riku (they're little boys then) play on the shores of Destiny Islands, where the quote, "Forget me, friend" is said by him. From what we know so far, "friend", is what Ven and Terra seem to call each other. Not to mention, there's also a picture of Ven on Destiny's Islands as well, so that world is not unknown to them. They perhaps even live there. And if you want prove, I'll provide those pictures if need be. The quote is probably on KH-Vids.Net even.

Daxma might be more on point, or gets the idea better. He just didn't have anything to back it up.