Hands up who actually intends to read the new rules.

C · Jul 21, 2012

If only I wasn't asleep an hour and seventeen minutes ago.

Makaze · Jul 21, 2012

Mixt said: ↑

I really don't get the backlash here, we already had troll and flaming rules. The major rule expansion is more about clarification than actually being new. Trolling rules have been long let slide except for extreme cases because giving members some benoit of the doubt and such. If staff hasn't already talked to you about behavior you're in little danger, but even if it has been brought up to you before it isn't like this is the warning flag of a banning spree.

Also, it is unfair to expect people to become thick skinned to rude comments just as it it's unfair to expect you all to be perfectly polite all the time. But if both sides can reach a middle ground this could end up better for everyone, those that refuse (in both cases) are likely not to have such a good time.

And Makaze, the rules are written with some grey area because we accept that we won't be able to write black and write rules here. First it is a subjective topic, and thus any terminology is open for some debate. Second, we are not exactly qualified to draw the line in the sand. We would have our hands tired to punish people that didn't really deserve it, or not be rightly able to punish someone that should be. This is also good for you guys in a way because you aren't going to be punished immediately for anything but extreme cases, there is a little bit of give to get you on the right track.

Bottom line is that you don't need to like everyone here (god knows there are a few members that get under my skin) but you can still be respectful about it, or even just be a bit tactful so that you aren't disrespectful.
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My worry is that the clarifications made are even less clear than the previous ones. I feel I brought up most of my points in the rules thread already.

I am used to getting black and white responses from staff when I challenge a decision, so I want clarify to be true clarity if you are going to bother. Anything else and it becomes a license to enforce things more strictly. Previously there were some unspoken rules, now they are spoken. Breaking them is less open to dispute now.

As I expressed before, it is the censoring of members that bothers me more than banning. I do not feel under threat of banning right now. I do feel that I may be shut down if I speak my mind. That bothers me greatly. Getting this thread unlocked was a miracle that I doubt will happen again for a very long time.

I am mostly calmed down, so please don't take this as me restarting fires.

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Hands up who actually intends to read the new rules.

C This silence is mine

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