Birth by Sleep I just got a thought about ds

I can't remember the timeline of that exactly.​

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But I thought Riku didn't get the suit until he was possessed?
He took the Keyblade from Sora and when Sora got it back, Ansem SoD gave Riku the fake Keyblade and power of darkness but Riku ended up possessed?
I'll have to rewatch that scene to be sure tho.

If I am wrong, then the only thing we know for sure is that DS uses Darkness without giving into it​

 

i think that :
MX the ds and the unknown master of ATV are the 3 former keybalde weilders before TAV

 

So BBS would deal with two generations of Keyblade Wielders, three if you include Sora, Riku, and Mickey.​

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I like the idea of that.
But DS can't be a master because he's MX's apprentice.
I doubt a master would need to be an apprentice of another master.
And it could still be that MX was TVA's Master before he disappeared.
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as i said earlier it could be that terra losing memories remembered that and becoming xehanort remembered parts of the suit.
also i think that ds and terra took the same path but terra stopped and turned back taking a different one this could mean that ds used to know them and was with them searching for mx but took the wrong path

 

Nope, he got it as soon as Sora enters the chamber. They fight, and Riku runs off to meet Xehanhort's heartless again and Riku is possessed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjkMKauZ01M (05:42)

Looks like that's the case

 

Oh, thanks.​

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So DS is not possessed
I wonder if we've missed anything...
So there's no exact source for that suit Riku got?
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Right we have no idea where it came from. Unless it was explained in Chain of Memories since Riku can return to that form.

It could very well be that he cloaks himself in darkness to increase his power.

 

In the COM diz gives it too him. where he got it..... well i belive he discovered it... Xemnas did and diz found out how to get it or make it. cuz he was into communication with namine who interacted with org 13. stuff can happen to tired to get into this but ya. thats the jist

 

We're not talking about the black cloaks. We're talking about the dark suit. The one that Riku and DS have​

 

DS could've gotten it from Maleficent because if you remember Maleicent was pretty much feeding darkness to Riku later in the game

 

that seem's probable but then how did MX get ahold of DS

 

In the BBS trailer, MX calls the apprentice "a monster infused with darkness" and he said "defeat the darkness, and undo MY mistake". It's possible that MX could have infused the DS with darkness. Whether DS wanted this to happen or not, i have no idea.

 

Maybe Master Xehanort created both his apprentice and Ventus (Yeah I'm dumping my time travel theory, for now at least.), as a way to combat the Unversed, but somehow Ven didn't meet his expectations and handed him to his friend (Terra and Aqua's master) as a new recruit, there he quickly made friends with his fellow apprentices. Meanwhile Xehanort continued his experiments with the other subject, sending "Him" to fight the Unversed, at first "He" functioned as he was supposed to but before long the subject began to absorb the negative emotions that made up the Unversed without Xehanort realizing it, and thus "He" began to change and take on a darker form. By the time Xehanort noticed what was going on his "Apprentice" had already began to change into something dark and sinister. In order to rectify this he began researching away to purify the heart and he came across info on Kingdom Hearts, unfortunately the Keyblade wielders were forbidden from even knowing about it, knowing it would mean he would be hunted down Xehanort left to find the keys that would open the door to Kingdom Hearts
and stop what he started.

 

i think riku gets the armour from xemnas because if hes terra then he might of remembered a rough image of it or he could be a clone of terra*you can see a bit of brown through the helmet looking a bit like hair*

 

Riku got it from Xehanort's Heartless, not Xemnas.
Sora has brown hair. You can't say it's Terra just because the hair color

 

yeah i did say he might of only remembered parts of it but not all of it

 

Yes. Rikunort has all except the helmet, while DS has the helmet.

<^Seraph>

 

He meant any thoughts on why his is more complete than Riku's.

It's probably because he's more attuned to the darkness.