Make up the story plot for kh3 (Group Effort)

hmmm.... a candle with a heart shaped flame....

Highnoon Hamlet should be like Twilight Town. The Desoul world needs a name similar to the heartless world (End of the World) and Nobody World (The World That Never Was).

How about something like "The World That's Not A World" or "A World But Not A World". After all, Desouls are human but not human. remember desouls have all 3 elements of life. but still they are not human.

Or it could be "World Doomed To Die", or "The World With No Self", or "Distorted World", or "World Of Distort". I'm not sure but it should be along those lines.

ooo, wait what about "Broken World" meaning the worlds will has been broken.

 

The Eternal Abyss???? I like it, but I don't know if it is all to consistent with the other names.

 

wow, there are some really good ones here. I favorites are all of them execept Orphic City, because I don't get that one. I may want to use some of these. but they don't really define what a desoul world is. I want to use "the end of existence" but the desoul's soul is the only thing that doesn't exist after dieing, and that is only when they die because their soul vanishes.

 

You raise a good point, we should find a way to fit in some nobodies. I have a few ideas in mind for how we could do that, but I want to think on it more before sharing.

 

That, actually, is a common misunderstanding. Yensid said that only people with strong hearts can turn into Nobodies. that's why you don't see as many nobodies in KH2 as you see heartless.

maybe, but I'm not sure if Maleficient would act that way. the heartless are basically her minions, and minions are disposable. she is more concerned about finding a way to rule kingdom hearts than building a massive army of heartless. She is also smart too. she knows better than to be the one going around and doing that. she would use someone else.

I think that the remaining nobodies would be unorganized at the moment with the loss of the organization. I also think that Maleficient would have driven them out of The World That Never Was. I would think that they would be scattered in groups, not knowing what to do next.

I could even see the nobodies viewing the desouls as their enemies. After all, the desouls are killing heartless, and in doing so the heartless' hearts become incomplete. incomplete hearts can not return to their former bodies. This can pose a problem to the nobodies. they desire to be whole again, but to be whole they need their heart to remain complete. that being the case, Nobodies would see the desouls as a threat against their hearts. Nobodies and desouls would be mortal enemies.

I can't see nobodies being an enemy anymore. Nobodies have no feelings. They do not despise Sora. they only attacked him because they were under orders. They're goal was to regain their heart by using KH. They can't do that with the desouls attacking heartless. they would be more concerned about the desouls at the moment.

So bottom line is, Nobodies consider desouls as a threat against their "lives". That being the case they would most likely be doing their best to defend the heartless against the desouls. They would also be trying to come up with a plan to rid the worlds of desouls. And chances are they would come to realize that their best chance on survival would be to contact the only Organization member left. Number 13, Roxas. (This of course would be near the final battle)

 

I like where this is going. We can also have Nobodies as temporary allies here and there. When you're fighting Desouls, you're basically an Ally to the Nobodies.

The have no feelings, and thus rely on logic.

My idea, gameplay-wise, goes as follows :

1. At the beginning of the game they will oppose Sora with all they've got ; because they want to turn him into a Heartless, thus probably restoring Roxas, the most powerful Nobody still "alive".
2. After some time, they'll abandon their strategy, and think of anthoer. In the mean time, while fighting, they'll prioritize the Desouls first, and then turn their eyes on Sora.
3. Finally, as Sora shitfs his attention more toward the Desouls, rather than Heartless, the Nobodies realise that Sora is too valuable. Therefore, they will contact him, thus contacting Roxas. And from that point on, Nobodies will more or less be your minions. Of course, this must happen late in the game.

What does everyone think?

 

I like it, but I don't know about the whole minions part. I think that Roxas should awaken, like you said, and make some sort of deal with the nobodies to ally with each other as they attempt to take on the Desoul's world.

Edit: We still need a name for this world.

 

Yeah. I meant that they will be your allies, and you could thus "control" them to some extent. Nothing close to what Maleficient does to the Heartless, though. A good player will make great use of them.

A question remains : What happens after the fading Desoul world is destroyed? We already discussed that it will vanish, and when TWTNW vanishes as well, the Desoul KH and the Normal KH will enter in conflict. This should set the final stage of the game, where you will fight Xehanort.

However, what happens to the Nobodies then? Their homeworld is destroyed, before the game finishes. They can find solace in another world, who knows, in Twilight Town's underground tunnel, or a new world.
Or, having lost their home, and knowing they won't be accepted anywhere else, they will just launch an all-out attack against the Desouls.
(Note : Since the Desoul world is also destroyed, and that the two KHs are "fighting" in another realm, we need to figure a way to actually have a final battle. WHERE would that be? Pezz, you mentionned many times something about "links", or "paths" opening to KH. Maybe you can find the solution to this problem, because you also mentionned fighing INSIDE Kh.)

So, the Nobodies will be fighting the Desouls, allowing Sora and Co to break through their ranks and confront Xehanort. Afterwards, we can only wonder what they'll do once the game is finished. But we're getting ahed of ourselves here.


Finally, an different idea :
A Disney World that was suggested, for KH2, in a random Magazine who'se name I can't remember : The Sword and The Stone.
I gotta admit, I don't know that story well ; I can only assume it's about the guy, probably King Arthur, pulling a sword out of a rock. My Magazie suggested that we replace it with a Keyblade. I like that idea. Furthermore, we'll introduce Keyblade Masters in this game, so maybe someone can arise through pulling that Keyblade. And by "someone", I mean Kairi.
She could visit that world immeadiately after the Station of Awakening. She can get her Keyblade there, (and use the Sword, Shield and Staff in the Station).

Finally (for the second time), if both Riku and Kairi have their Station of Awakening moment, do you guys and gals prefer playing with the 3 Items they are proposed? Like, let's say Riku awakens first. If the player picks the Sword, it will become unavailable for Kairi.

Finally (third time), I see you Edited your post. For the Desoul's world, the names that were already proposed are cool enough as is. "Broken World" isn't bad.
But while I'm here, enjoy me bombing names :
***Reminder : Consistency with other KH games requires us to have "The World" in the world's name.

"The World of Flickering Candles"
"The Worldof the Flickering Sun"
"The World of the Depths of Soul"
"The World of Candle Tears"
"The World that will Never Live"

 

Ok, first thing first, I thought of a possible name.

World Ends At Sunset

Second of all the path to kingdom hearts.

Well considering that we want the final battle to take place there, we need the destruction of the Desoul's world to cause the two moons to instantly collide. The reason why this doesn't happen without TWTNW and the desoul world dieing can be because of the barriers that divide the worlds. remember, the purple moon is attracted to the yellow moon because it desires to be complete.

The combination of the two moons will form a corrupted Kingdom hearts consisting of both complete and incomplete hearts.

About the two moons doing battle, I don't think that it would really be a battle. Complete hearts vs. incomplete hearts. It's like heartless vs. Desouls. The complete hearts won't stand a chance.

As for getting there, the answer is simple. A battle between Xehanort and Sora will occur on the Desoul world. After Xehanort is beaten and on his knees.....

Sora: You lose again. Time to put an end to all of this.

*Xehanort begins to laugh*

Xehanort: I, lost? Hahahaha. Don't be so presumptuous, boy! Are you so dimwitted to forgot that one important detail?

Sora: What detail?

*Xehanort gives Sora a wicked smile*

Xehanort: This world ends at sunset.

*Sora gasps and turns around in time to catch one last glimpse of the sun before it sets below the horizon.*

Xehanort: Your time is up!

*A shock wave goes out across the land. the world begins to crumble and die. Xehanort is laughing like a manic throughout all this.*

Since the world is a desoul, the destruction of this world would mean an incomplete heart formed from a world (imagine the size of it). That heart would immediately join the purple moon and in doing so, The purple moon becomes a complete, incomplete KH (that's definitely an oxymoron, lol).

Because the heart of the desoul world joins the purple moon, everyone on the planet would end up in there too. Because the desoul world has died, the "walls", or barriers, that divide that world from other worlds would dissipate. Without any barriers, the purple moon would instantaneously collide with the yellow moon. This will form a brown moon, A corrupted KH. And the best part is, everyone is inside. Xehanort, Sora and co, the desouls, and the nobodies.

Xehanort will gain the power he desired, but in a corrupted form. Sora and co will do battle with Xehanort. The nobodies and the new keybladers will fight the desouls. And the complete hearts, in this KH, will be struggling to remain complete.

Xehanort gets pwned, as do the desouls. Sora and company save kingdom hearts by somehow uncorrupting it. And since the remaining Nobodies are now inside KH, they finally become complete.

That was a tough one for me to figure out, it really was. I read it over like ten times to make sure it worked, lol. All Problems are now solved. The heartless numbers are back down to what they used to be. The nobodies are now whole, which means no more nobodies. The desouls have been beaten. the purple heart is gone. KH is saved. And best of all, no more Xehanort!!!

Ok, I think that the battle that happens before the two moons collide should be different for each character. Xehanort could revive Ven and Aqua in some way, maybe make them desouls. Kairi can fight Aqua. Riku can take on Ven, just like how Riku fought Roxas (This time though Riku must win without the help of darkness).

I don't know whether or not this can work because bbs has yet to come out. but there must be some reason why Xemnas was interested in the other "friend" in kingdom hearts 2: final mix. So I just thought that we should deal with that so we can tie up all the loose ends. I suppose that we could also say that Xehanort created phantoms of Ven and Aqua. That would probably be more on the safe side. Well anyway, by doing this Riku's and Kairi's Story will become more different from Sora's.

by the way, I think this should be like bbs as in it will be like three games in one. when you start the game you can choose to play as either Sora, Kairi, or Riku. That is how it will be in bbs.

One more thing, Kairi already has a keyblade given to her by Riku.

 

Very well done... very well said.

People have started getting attached to Nobodies. Of course, it's Organization XIII that takes all the attention, but having a good ending for the Nobodies will please many Kh fans.

I know Kairi has a Keyblade, but we don't know much about it. She barely used it. Well, either she could get a second, from the Stone, and become dual-wield Kairi, wither we can use that Disney world for some other hero. Hell, anyone can take a Keylbade out of a rock and have some meaning to it.

As for the bulk of your post, well, congratulations. It's quite the perfection. We can work on the smallest details later.

For the moment, I have one thing to build upon what you said :

***Everyone is inside the corrupted KH.

Xehanort : This strength, this power, it's finally mine! I shall push my knowledge to the ultimate limits! Now... the time has finally come... arise... my old friends...

*He uses unheard-of powers to attempt reviving Aqua and Ven. This is excellent if we follow the Terra=Xehanort theory.

*However, Ven and Aqua are inhumane and imperfect, because Xehanort's power comes from corrupted hearts.

Xehanort : What?! I have all the power in my hands, and I still can't succeed?! The Hearts... they have betrayed me... I won't let this be! I need more Hearts, the strongest Hearts! *looks at Sora and co* Your Hearts!
My friends, attack!

*Ven and Aqua attack. Riku jumps on Ven and they begin fighting fiercly. Kairi blocks Aqua's attack, and shouts to a nearby Sora :

Kairi : Sora! Go after Xehanort!
Sora : But, you and Riku-...
Kairi : We'll be fine! Defeat Xehanort! We must stop him... you must put and end to this!

***Final battles commence.

Well, that's it for the moment. Riku and Kairi must triumph over the fake Aqua and Ven first, so that they can join Sora, snd whoever else is there, in fighting Xehanort.

 

I like it! I like it a lot! that will turn out very nicely!

I think the name World Ends At Sunset works out very well if we follow through on this scenario. It has a nice sound to it and it is also different from the other world names, "End of World" and TWTNW.

As for the sword in the stone, which was about King Arthur, as much as I would love to have that world, it might pose a problem with Merlin. It brings up questions like why was he not there in the first place? I do have a solution for this, but i don't know if it will work. if they have the world Camelot in bbs, then perhaps Merlin leaves to gain knowledge in other worlds. so in this game he can come back. but we don't know if this will work..... actually, if i remember correctly, the movie starts with young king Arthur and then he gets older. They may just have sword in the stone in bbs.

Edit: nevermind. Arthur remains a teen the entire movie.

 

You can start writing down ideas. Remember that all the characters do go to the same worlds. They just go these worlds in different orders. I think I should set up a time line on the Wiki (has anyone even bothered to check that?). that can help us keep track of who's where at what point in time.

Also, keep in mind that since each character goes to the same world, but at different times in the game, they can see the effect that another character had on the world.

for example. Sora is the first to go to world1. Sora does his stuff and move on. later in the game Kairi goes to world1. Kairi now picks up where Sora left off. Kairi leaves, Riku then goes to world1. Riku finishes up everything up in world1. Riku moves on. world1 is saved.

 

I just put up the timeline. I was thinking that it would be nice to have Kairi have Destiny Islands as her first world. And then she encounters a new Keyblader while there. That keyblader can help give her the means to get off the island. This keyblader should be a girl me thinks.

I have three definite worlds so far. Destiny Islands, Disney Castle, and Highnoon Hamlet.

 

That will probably be all wrapped up in kh Days. Xion wasn't originally planned to be in the game. but they added her in to progress the story. At least I think that this is the case. let me check kh wiki to be sure.

Edit: Never mind, I can't find anything stating this. I don't know why, but I'm so sure that I read somewhere that this is the case.

well anyway, if you take out the X in Xion's name, then you get the anagram No I. I don't think that Xion has a somebody. In one of the trailers Namine states something about leaked memories. Perhaps these leaked memories took the form of a Nobody, after all nobodies rely on memories.

This is a theory made by someone else, you can find more about it in KH Insider. I only rushed through it to give you a basic idea. but the theory goes into saying something like because Xion has no somebody, Organization XIII remained XIII. this is also supposed to be why Xion doesn't have a pillar.

but I think Xion will return to wherever she came, like Riku told her too in the trailer.