Some things I notice and hope we can all fix.

I really don't like drama. Anyone here who knows me at all knows that I'd much rather come to the boards and do 'happy' things, chilling out with friends, and trying to make this place a better one for all of us. So, I don't write this as a -rant- but more as something for us all to consider and yes, it may be lengthy, but I ask you to read it if you would, and if you want to respond and chat it out, let's do that. I like to believe that we can repair some things even if at times we can't fix our natures that make us go and be obnoxious, rotten, thin-skinned, emotional, etc now and then. We're all prone to it. We're human. The things I'm bringing up are important to me because they harm members here, whether staff or not. In the end we are -all- members, so I ask that we all keep that in mind. Drama can never totally die off, but if you are as sick of it as I am, please read on and forgive me for a long winded essay. I love you guys or I wouldn't bother.

If someone voices a rant - Well, this obviously says that something is wrong. Should the person need to do it? Are they just trying to stir the pot? In most cases I will say they aren't and are simply drawing attention to the matter that is bugging them, whether or not others want to hear it or not. The person may be angry, frustrated, upset, near tears, in tears, or even just calm and wanting to say 'this crap isn't right'. If they can at least write it so we can all understand it, we have the right to read it or move on. What should you do if someone rants? Well, respond or don't. When you respond, remember that the person on the other computer is just as real as you are. There's an issue going on and the person wants it resolved. If he/she is going about it the wrong way, feel free to say so, but keep the flaming down. They are 'venting' so obviously tossing more wood into the fire means that you are going to just make them angrier and cause more drama.

- The person writing the rant - If you wrote the rant, expect some criticism. Even if you are courteous enough to leave off people's names (which you should do because we don't need flame wars), expect some people to get upset. Don't 'attack' them for it but instead debate on it. Keep in mind that the other people may not agree with you and others will. Just because someone doesn't agree doesn't mean they hate you.

People who are aggressive - Consider here that you guys are being too hostile to others and it's causing pointless fights. A lot of you just want thin-skinned people to stop being wussy and suck up some pain, but it's having a counter effect and you are getting slammed for it. Think about toning down some, please and being considerate. You may not feel that person deserves it, but really, no one needs to be suffering for things they did some time ago. Let things go easier. If you don't care though, which some don't, and are just having fun poking at people, now and then that's fine. But really, don't dig a knife in and twist and turn. Have some kind of restraint. A joke is a joke. Going over the top is where things are getting bad.

Thin-skinned people - you've got to toughen up and stop taking everything so seriously. You've got some deep emotions but despite that, this is a forums and most people don't -hate- each other. If someone actually does hate someone else, think on why you hate them. If a person is just an annoyance, ignore the person. If they continue to be a problem, PM a Mod, S.Mod, Admin. You will face worse in the really real world than ever here. I've been insulted quite a few times but ah well. There are some things in my nature I'm not willing to compromise despite how annoyed it may make some people. It's my choice to remain doing what I am and I accept I can't make everyone on this planet happy. You make choices too to be as you are. We've got to understand that not everyone is going to be happy with us all the time. It doesn't mean people hate you so please consider that every time you declare you -hate- someone else. Hate is a strong word and it's just not worth it to have on a forums especially. These people can't hurt you -that- bad if you don't let them. There are more controlling factors here that will step in the way than in real life. Hell, some of us face worse from our families than we will ever face here. My biggest advice to you is to try to lighten up and if you have a problem, read below and hopefully it will help you get 'better' help than you are receiving now.

About Mods, S.Mods, Admins. - Guys, we're people too and just members like you but with some responsibilities. We have different personalities and cares. If you PM us, think on who you are PM'ing so that you can get the best reaction you want. If you want a straight out blunt answer that may upset you but get you to the heart of the matter, PM the ones who are stronger voiced and call themselves asses at times. :) If you want actions or opinions from others who are less blunt but still straight up, PM those people, and if you want someone sincere and who will go out of his/her way to help you, PM that sort. We're all not the same and for various situations, some of us may be better at others to handle your particular situation at the time when at another time, you may want someone else to do it. We're different, so use the difference to your advantage, if you get what I mean.

The de-rep wars - Seriously, people...de-rep is meant for -you- as an individual to see a post and decide that it is a crappy post meriting the choice for you to derep. It's not high school. Members across this board have been complaining lately that they are getting ganged up on and derepped or being even derepped numerous times by one person for something that happened months ago. De-rep is NOT for revenge. It also is not for getting into high school groups and ganging up on one person to derep them as much as possible. This seriously starts off wars where others then go get their friends etc. Do we want to stop drama or raise it off of petty revenge? If someone is wrong and you feel that way, derep. Don't go get your 5 or more buddies to go in and do the same thing. Also, don't keep derepping a person over and over again because you have animosity to that person. That's not what it's about.

Lastly, PLEASE those who derep...think and don't go putting someone else's name on the derep because you are too chicken to put your -own- nick there. If you aren't responsible enough to say 'I derepped you' why should someone else on the boards take the fall for you? This has been happening too much for comfort lately and wow...it's just really cold. I have never bothered with derep and prefer to just tell a person direct I think their post sucked, but derep is there for that purpose, so use it -for- that please. And don't bring some other unsuspecting member into the battle. That's really brutal and what if that person gets derepped suddenly because you did that? Do you hate that person so much you'd let them take the fall for you? Please, please please...think about it. It's really very unfair to that member.

So yeah, that's what I have to say on what I see and I hope even if you can't endure the whole essay, you took away something positive. I see people now are even joking about it because the drama is just taking up too much and don't we have other crap to talk about? I sure hope so. Sorry again for the essay here but there's just no easy way to say some of these things shortly for me. Let's try though to make something work and chill on attitudes, getting offended, and well, being offensive. I sure hope the next KH games come out soon so people have more things to do and chat about. Drama only seems to crop up like this when we are lagging between things. There's an old saying of 'treat others as you wish to be treated' and I think it's really time we learned to follow that to some degree. We may have different opinions there on how we'd like to be treated but most of us don't want to be treated like crap or pitied, etc.

 

Have my babies?

Perfectly said, and completely true.​

 

I might submit this as my essay for Intro Dev. It's not about the essay, but it is win.

 

*claps* Bravo, Repliku... Well said. :)

Now hopefully things will start to get better? ><

 

Yeah I've been here less then two days and I've already been insulted ;_;

 

Oh dear...that's not good. Let me appologize for some of the rude members. Not everyone here is insulting. There are a bunch of nice people. If you ever need a friend, PM me =).

 

Thanks guys! I'm glad you see it as not a rant and what the purpose of it is. I want to see the grade on it if it's used in your class DA. lol

DestinyStar - I can only hope things will get better. Sometimes it takes work but I do think -most- of us are tired of some things so hopefully we can start coming together.

Something_Epic - It happens but try to not take it to heart. You seem cool to me so keep hanging around. :)

 

Of course I won't care, I've been insulted on every website I've ever been on :P

And I was just kidding about the ";_;"

 

Repliku....I love you.
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repliku you rule ^^

insulting is a common thing in people ^^ but it's even worse in school lol

 

Thanks Orange. I <3 you too. <3 <3

And Shiki, I saw that. :) I'm cool in black! Black is my favorite color. <3

 

You pretty much said it all o:

But i do have a question about the derepping

don't you think it's unfair for some of the staff to be able to look and see who derepped them if they didn't leave a name?

 

Only admins can do that and it's done for reasons of safety. A couple of those reasons I mentioned already. Members do want some protection from abusers of rep. So if no one could see, then no one could help them. We who don't have the ability don't really get -told- who is derepping us but sometimes we can sure guess if it becomes a habit. Admins do keep that information secret a majority of the time.

i.e.
If some people are ganging up and derepping.
If one person is derepping for a post and just leaves nasty comments and the post itself isn't bad.
If someone is derepping and signing other people's names to the deed, which basically, we all of course don't have time to 'validate' if someone really did the deed or not but if we are suspicious, we should say something.
If someone is derepping out of animosity and not because the posts are bad. It may start out that someone derepped a post but when after a time they keep derepping someone out of animosity, that too is wrong. A person can 'deserve' to suffer one thing deserved, but if it keeps going after, it's just done out of revenge. No one learns that way so yes, someone should complain and get help in that case.

If we are going to have rep, unfortunately, there will be people that abuse it so members do have a right to get some help with it. If no one could see who did acts, no one would get warnings for attacking others that way. Rep really is meant to be a tool to use to grade posts either favorably or not so favorably and isn't meant as a form of revenge, which seems rather commonplace these days. That's why I highlighted some attention towards it. Hope that clears this up and lets you know that no one besides Admins can even see who does it. However, after a while, we all know our 'haters' so it isn't so hard to tell even if the person doesn't leave a name.

 

I'd actually say it's WAAAAAY worse on the interwebz, in school I get insulted every couple of months, while on the interwebz I get insulted at least a couple of times each month!

 

Actually, S. mods can too. Or at least Misty can. xD

Well said. As always.
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Well, I stand corrected and learned something new! Okay, so well, now we know that S.Mods and Admins can see who gives out rep. People in the red like me can't. Rawr.

 

your different ^^
i get insulted/laughed at in school every single day ..while in the interwebs a couple of times a year ...

 

Very well said, Repliku. Now if only if everyone could take your advice...then the forum would be boring, but peaceful. xD

 

VGN, too funny!

 

Quoted for truth.

... <_>

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