Super smash bros brawl info

Roy is my main character! :D

It might be Ike in Super Smash Bros. Brawl though since chances of Roy reappearing are small...

 

You'd be amazed how fast Link can be if you move across the stage with empty SHFFLs and L-cancel every move you do.

My friend Kevin is the Link, he lost this match because he was an idiot, but I'm noting his speed in this video, nothing else. Notice he will never dash across the stage; always hops to where he needs to go. In this video, Link misses only one L-cancel, I believe, at (-3:33), but everywhere else is stellar.

 

^amen, dude, and also the reason Link's kinda slow in the first place is because he has so much crap on him (like bombs, a shield, and sword and a tone of other crap) it kinda makes since he's gotta go slow...

 

Yeah, it's originally his running speed and weak jump that placed him in Low Tier, but with pros like Aniki and HDL representing on the international scene, I swear Link is far better than where he is in the tier currently.

I personally don't play Link since projectile play isn't really my style to begin with, but I've had my fair share of tough Link opponents and find myself using Marth to counter a lot of the better ones out there.

 

Link is really difficult when they know how to use 'em. I got really thrown off one time when I had to fight a player who used Link as an arial character. >_>;

 

When I play link, all I really do is use short range attacks, I hardly use his projectile attacks....

 

I constantly use progectiles. Then when the persons been backed to a cliff or thier damage is up POW Smash attack.


Anyway. Brawl may be running on the havok physics system
http://www.gamegrep.com/news/4854-super_smash_bros_brawl_using_havok_physics/

If you have played SONIC The Hedgehog then you should know what kinda awesome things the Havok system is capeable of doing.



That reminds me. I sure as hell hope Sonic is in the game.

 

the ONLY way to do it!!!!

and i would be very surprised if sonic was in this game....he has no connection to nintendo, snake was in "metal gear solid: the twin snakes" for gamecube. he was also fully licenced by nintendo way back in the day....

 

Nintendo clearly said a long time ago that there will be 1-2 third party characters excluding Snake. And polls say in Japan Sonic the hedgehog was the most requested character.

 

I'd get the drift that marth would completely smash up Link.

When I use Marth I'm insanely fast with L-cancel and b+down counter. I do use a lot of smashes too, and usually basic A mid-air attacks. I find this strategy very effect when using L-cancel.

I dunno though. I've never lost once against Link (in pro) except versus my brother. But only because he has insanely good maneuvering Link's slow body around. And amazingly he has good skill in using bombs and the bow. XD

 

If you're pitting Marth against a Link who only does close-range battle, then yes, Marth has the advantage in all aspects of the match. While I did use Fox a lot in the past to face Links (simply because Link is waveshine heaven), it can be really stressful to get in close to a good Link because as far as overall range in concerned, Link has Fox done in really good. Even with Fox's superior speed and agility, if you have a Link who has excellent mindgames and gains metagame on you really fast, you have very little chance if you can't keep up. Thus, I've usually started using Marth these days against good Peach and Link players.

On another note, the only way a Link can match up to a Marth player of equal skill is to take advantage of Marth's lack of projectiles. Using projectiles to keep Marth at a distance (as Marth is superior to Link in both speed and range in a close battle match) until the Link can find an opening is the best way to handle Marth.

Behold Round 3 of an epic match between Aniki (one of Japan's best Link players) against Ken (Best Marth in the world, and arguably the best smasher in the world).

Brutal Ken combo @ -2:44~40. Anyway, one of the very few matches Ken lost in his pro career, but anyway, it's very obvious during the last stock how Link's projectile superiority can really come into play in countering a good Marth player. By continually pressuring Marth with a persistent onslaught of weapons, he has to work twice as hard to dodge or counter the moves while Link can stay safely away. Aniki emphasizes this strategy during the last stock most likely because playing conservatively (as well as far away) is the best way to handle Ken in that situation (i.e. high % dmg, one stock, FD=no obstacles).

EDIT: Also lmao @ Ken's DI at the end.

 

...wow. That Marth is godly. You can tell Ken got a little lazy though and started letting himself get killed (or so it seems).

And Link's save at the very beginning was awesome. And speaking of Link; wow, that was amazing. At the last minute he completely had Marth cornered by cross fire of Bombs and Boomerang.

xD I wonder how I'd fair.

 

I can't speak for you, but I when I took my first visit to a provincial-wide smash tournament a month ago, I got thoroughly raped by almost everyone there. I've gotten better since then and can compete with the provincials now, but back then it was horrible.

I'd say Ken would easily 4-stock me if I were to face him right now. Hell, I got four-stocked by a provincial pro in my area, so I don't think I can take Ken, who's won MLG over and over again (which is at the international level).

Watching someone play is completely different from actually playing them, or so I've learned the hard way a long long time ago. You (I'm generalizing 'you') may watch someone in a video and think "I can take them" or "I can counter that move", and pretty much pick away at every part of their vids and come up with a strategy, but believe me when I say it's not what you imagine when you finally face them. You may think you will be able to keep up, but you really can't, or think that you can get them in this combo of yours, but it won't ever happen.

I can 100% guarantee that if you've never competed in professional tournaments before (the local/city level at the very least), these MLG players will, without question, rape the crap out of you. They have more experience, more composure, and have amazing instincts and can read people phenomenally well. You may think you will be able to beat them when you watch their videos and think of what 'you would've done' at a certain part of it, but believe me it's a lot harder to think of these things on the fly, when these monstrous pros will be continually charging at you and not giving you time to think.

Anyway, I digress. The bottom line: Unless you expose yourself to these kinds of players, getting better may not happen. Sure, when you first play really really good people, you will probably get your ass handed to you match after match after match, but just continue playing them and you'll eventually become better and hopefully reach their level of skill and possibly exceed them.

 

Oh I definitely wouldn't doubt them completely beating me. The highest level of MLG I've gotten in Smash was here in Madison during a Halo 2 tourniment and I was bored. I did fairly well against these people, but they weren't even pro SSBM players. They were Halo 2 freaks. So yeah, I know that I'd suck pretty hard. I was having a hard enough time facing them even though they don't normally play the game.

The only reason I'd think I might do a decent change against them (like me getting at least a 2 stock at the end of the match) is because I've practiced over and over and over again against Level 9 computers, my brother, random friends and mostly with another friend of mine, Nick. He's a Pikachu guy so...not sure if that counts. But i do know Pikachu is a *****. <_<;

 

XD Pikachu.

I personally don't think Level 9s can teach you anything about dealing with advanced gameplay, but they are good enemies to warm up on before a match. Continue playing human players :3

But Brawl (which will hopefully be online) will help change things up. We might have the chance to play against all the international pros; I personally wanna experienced getting raped by Bombsoldier. XD

 

Oh god yes. xD If we had online play I'm so gonna start making a team with some people and start pwning everyone.

Is it still 2 v 2 for teams? Or did they change it this time around to like 3 v 3 or 4 v 4?

Anyway, I really want to get the online thing. It'd be good for practicing against total strangers and just goofing off. xD

 

I'm assuming it's still only 4 players max at a time, so 2 on 2 would be my best bet. Brawl online would completely compete for my time with FFXI. XD

 

I agree. SSBB will probably hog up my time too. Also this year is my junior year so I have testing and shiz. So I might have a little battle going on between studying and playing SSBB.

I just know online play will kill my social life. xD

 

I doubt I'll play online for a while. I'm a Smash Bros noob, so you'll probably destory me. My mains were Marth and Mario on Melee. I hope Ike is as good, or better, than Marth.

 

Ike concerns me. He seems more reminiscent of Roy than Marth, which troubles me because I absolutely do not like Roy... well, other than for fun friendlies.