The difference between a keyblade and a normal weapon is?

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  1. P Banned

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    After playing KH1 again, what is the Keyblade's special properties? I originally thought that only it could kill the heartless, but that is disproved later. I suppose the wooden sword was just not strong enough. (although Sora's natural abilities must have increased by the time he used it again)

    I know the Keyblade can Seal the world's heart and can unlock stuff, but when it comes down to it, am I really that much better off with it than an ordinary thing like a gunblade?

    Also it may not only be the blade that frees hearts from heartless, as in Days, it is said the whole Org is hunting heartless.

    Please reply anyone. (yes I am hoping that Repliku or someone else will come along and give some long, really thought out answer)
     
  2. Sir Charles of Monocles The Fault in Our Stars

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    i'd guess that you cna change the look of the Keyblade.
     
  3. Hakurei Reimu Take my hand. And then I'll fly with you right up

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    Well for starters, a keyblade is "more alive" than ur ordinary weapon as it chooses its masters. And I'm pretty sure you know by now that it can be summoned by will, unlock locks, free hearts and stuff. Those pretty much ARE their special properties...

    Now physically, they are much easier to wield than something like a gunblade. Example: Sora wielding Ultima which seems hefty and long is almost the same as wielding something that seems small like rumbling rose with power and effect being the only main benefactor. Aside from that, it's quite compact as it comes from "keychains" which could easily b attached to your belt instead of sheathing it or something like that.

    Replying to your question about whether your better off with a gunblade or keyblade, it really depends on the person. However, in my personal opinion, a keyblade would b a better choice considering how it lacks in power are made up with the other functions it has which an ordinary gunblade does not possess.

    Hope that clears up some stuff...
     
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    So what you are saying is that a keyblade is a weapon that almost changes to suit the wielder's needs and preferences? Good.

    But it was not a conparison between Gunblade and keyblade, but keyblade and everything.
     
  5. Shadows Of Oblivion Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I pretty much agree with you... except I wouldn't really call Rumbling Rose 'small' lol

    Also, a true Keyblade would only be wieldable by those with hearts... Roxas' blades I'm pretty sure are merely 'reflections' of Sora's versions...
     
  6. P Banned

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    That is a good point you have there Shadows. How did Roxas wield the keyblades? My theory is that Roxas indeed does have a heart.
     
  7. Shadows Of Oblivion Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Maybe... Roxas IS a unique one... and Axel thought he did... maybe it has to do with his birth?
     
  8. Spammy Traverse Town Homebody

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    Keyblades look good when u got a good looking on like Oathkeeper, Oblivion, Ultima.. There's actually quite a few nice looking ones, but most of the ones in KH1 look horrible. I'd prefer Cloud's meaty sword in KH1.

    In KH2 i prefer keyblades.. when ya can duel wield them anyway.. Love Axel's keyblade, cant remember what its called though :D
     
  9. Shadows Of Oblivion Hollow Bastion Committee

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    It's called Bond of Flames... but what's the relevence of what you posted?
     
  10. Hakurei Reimu Take my hand. And then I'll fly with you right up

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    Well...it's definately smaller in size compared to an average keyblade Sora wields.
     
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    What I mean is can only a keyblade release heartless's hearts?
     
  12. Shadows Of Oblivion Hollow Bastion Committee

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    In KHII, yeah, but there are a few in KH1 that are quite definitely smaller than that... Spellbinder, Wishing Star and Fairy's Harp...

    As for the releasing hearts, it seems not... maybe the Keyblade is more RELIABLE at it than normal weapons...
     
  13. Hakurei Reimu Take my hand. And then I'll fly with you right up

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    I agree for KH1 blades. As for the hearts, wat about Riku's keyblade in KH1. Though it's a one of a kind, it still works. ._.
     
  14. Shadows Of Oblivion Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Uhh... that IS a Keyblade...
     
  15. Repliku Chaser

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    The Keyblades are meant so that the wielder can send Heartless on their merry way out of that condition to where they are supposed to go. I also believe that since it was stated Keyblades were needed to kill the Heartless, that anyone 'around' the Keyblade wielder could also kill the Heartless as a sort of magical gift to allies of the Keyblade. It's not a proven fact but something I figured must be true or else Donald and Goofy could not do much but just keep helping defend and cure Sora, and well all of Sora's allies would be pretty ineffectual otherwise.

    Keyblades are also tied to the wielder. He or she cannot effectively become 'unarmed' or the weapon removed from the person unless the person is not the intended rightful Keyblade wielder of that particular weapon. If it falls from them, they can call it back. It seems that the Keyblade, though maybe not 'sentient' does bond to a like Heart to what its purpose is and is essentially tied to that person magically, maybe spiritually. Therefore, no one can just totally remove the weapon from the wielder and he or she can look as though they are unarmed but pull it out whenever. This alone makes it a special bonus compared to a gunblade or something else which you can't conceal too well on your person.

    I would say that the Keyblade may not be the 'only' weapon that destroys Heartless because certainly the Nobodies being tied directly with Darkness could and did do so. However, I think that even if others without the Keyblade wielder there, do kill Heartless, that malevolent energy may just later reform into another Heartless instead of going on to the Kingdom Hearts. This is why I think Roxas and Sora were used in both 358/2 Days and KH2. If the fact of the Keyblade is that if it is in the area and 'others' kill Heartless as well, those go on to where they should go too. When Roxas ran off, it seemed as though the Organization had to use Sora to do their bidding because though they could defeat Heartless, perhaps they just were not going to the destination they wanted. Otherwise, truly there was no real point in the Organization needing either of the two or the Keyblades.

    Also, I did find out that if I hit a Shadow around 90 some times (no joke, I wasted time trying to take out one to see if it was possible at all) with the stick sword that it did work to kill one. However, since no one without a Keyblade (other than Riku with Soul Eater...which I think was a Keyblade in dormancy) killed a Heartless without a Keyblade being present, I do think that Sora, because he is a Keyblade wielder intentionally, he could possibly kill them with another weapon but it'd take considerable time. Even the security system in RG did not 'kill' Heartless. It just held them at bay. The Heartless also seek the Keyblade out, which is why even at places like RG with the security system, they would come out to get Sora. It is a Light weapon that is possibly tied in with Kingdom Hearts somehow directly and so they want it because Kingdom Hearts would be the ultimate Heart to devour.

    That's my take on it and I'd say it's a lot better of a weapon versus Heartless than a Gunblade would be. However, versus things not made of Darkness, there probably is not going to be that much difference between the two. Keyblades are most powerful when used against foes with Darkness in their Hearts, Heartless and beings composed of Darkness. Otherwise, it would just be like a sword, so a Gunblade in other circumstances may actually do more damage.
     
  16. Shadows Of Oblivion Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Lol, you sure like the long posts, Repliku... I like the bit about Heartless 'reforming'... I actually thought of that too, but I forgot to put it down... :poketoungeb:
     
  17. Repliku Chaser

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    Yeah, Shadows..I do seem to like doing that a lot. I just get carried away.

    The Dark Keyblade was forged from the Hearts of the Princesses of Heart. It's a pseudo temporary Keyblade meant for one purpose, which was to unlock the Door to Darkness. I am not sure of its other abilities truly since it was never really shown to do anything else other than have the potential to unlock 'Hearts' and other such things and I believe the Princesses of Heart were needed for it since each of them appears to be 'pure hearted' and absent of Darkness, and Kingdom Hearts is the same, so they are connected to their worlds and it. Because it is a temporary Keyblade made in such a manner, I don't think it follows along the same lines necessarily as the others do even if it was powerful for its purpose.
     
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    Thank you, you came.

    Reforming... That would make sense.

    But I must ask, where was it said that only the Keyblade could kill heartless? I am replaying the game, and Aerith said nothing about the Keyblade being the only heartless killing weapon.

    Although your theory makes sense, I need to have that ONE statement. Although what you said all made sense. Your theory was one of the reasons I made this topic. I wanted a theory that worked. Surprisingly, I got what I wanted. I would Rep you, but I need to pass it around more...
     
  19. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    A Sword Cuts Thing
    A KEYBLADE HAS SUPER POWERS!!!! XD
     
  20. Repliku Chaser

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    Hmm, I could swear somewhere it mentioned that only the Keyblade could truly get rid of them but going through a script, I can't find it. I'll have to browse through it later a bit more. Maybe it's just 'magical weapons' in the end but the Keyblade is special because it will bring the Heartless out.

    Leon: The Heartless have great fear of the Keyblade. That’s why they’ll keep
    coming after you no matter what.

    He says that to explain to Sora why the Heartless keep showing up and trying to get them, and also that they are after Sora's Heart because he's chosen by the Keyblade. I'll go through the script some more and see if I can actually find something more on it. Maybe some more info is in the Ansem Reports.
     
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