The Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Duel Arena 8.0!

Are they going to bring that into the Zexal series? That thing is so rediculous. I mean, basically the only way to beat it is if you draw some kind of miracle card on your next draw.

 

No.
theres a story in Duel Terminal.
apparently the Verz have infected all monsters in that world and is slowly corrupting everything...
Then came The Sacred Star Knights which were made to defeat the Verz.
Sophia destroys the world.
having both Light (Sacred Star Knights.) and Darkness (Verz.)

its an interesting card...
anyone notice that the 2 orbs in its hands are eyes?

Edit: hmm...now that i look at it, only one loom like an eye...

 

Aaaaaand all of this is why I do not play this game anymore...

Yeah I'm giving up Dueling guys. I'm retiring. I've been thinking about this for a while, and well it's really just not fun for me anymore. And it really just isn't the same.

I'm still here if anyone wants to talk but I'm done dueling.

I'm prepared to explain a bit better in case there are people who don't fully understand what I mean by this.

 

nah, I completely understand you're reason. It's basically that reason that I stopped playing for the most part except for the games.....well that and no one lived near me that played it as well.

 

why did you put my quote in there?
I remember it being a few posts back...
im surprized that had anything to do with today.
nor does it have any connection with the current posts...
Like what Nickname posted >,>
how did that have any connection with the decks Nickname has?...

im also surprized that you looked back at all those posts...just to find mine..

 

For those who don't understand I'll translate it a bit better.

The kinds of decks and cards we have now are so broken it's not even funny...And it takes practically no skill at all to win this game...It's all mostly just based on luck...bad decks can still beat good decks and bad players can still beat good players because of flukes...It takes virtually no skill at all to win this game. ANYBODY can do it. To be quite frank, I think a trained monkey could win this game with enough practice...

 

*shakes Jaden*
we already went through this...
I was just getting used to Inzektors when I lost to Ojamas!
ASLO!
winning is half the point of playing the game.
in fact...winning is just a fraction of the entire thing!
it is art.
if you only focus on 1 thing you will never notice the rest and thus cannot enjoy it to the fullest.

 

Brooklyn, let me ask you something.
What if you put your heart and soul into a deck built on SKILL? Not luck, but pure strategy and skill. You utilize your skill, until slowly, you're about to beat your opponent.
But then your opponent who has no skill AT ALL draws just 1 card and wins the game. It just isn't fair. If it was like that, nobody would play the game. Well technically it still can happen. Konami has been trying to prevent this by banning things like Change of Heart, Brain Control, and Raigeki etc. but that's beside the point. It can still always happen at some time or another. The chance of it has been lowered now. Point is, That is the flaw of this game. Luck being a part of it. I've always had that against it but now it's even more bad than before...

 

1. there will always be weaknesses to any deck.
2. that is why they duel in matches not single duels, so that its best 2 out of 3 instead of just 1 lucky move.
3. I do agree on you though...Inzektors make it more and more a threat to this world...and must be stopped.
fortunetly, he who uses Inzektors for a main deck or even just uses it a lot SHAMES themselves as a duelist.
I think Inzektors are as looked down apon as Exodia decks...

Also, Verz Coppelial is a troll.
I think it can even stop Sophia for a turn...

Machine type.
Effect: Cannot be special summoned.
when this card is removed from the field by your opponent, gain control of one of your opponents monsters until your next end phase.

 

1. Nice job taking what I said and throwing it wildly out of context...What I meant was it just isn't fair because of luck period.
2. My point still stands.
3. That's another reason for the banlist. It's try to stop everybody from wanting to use the exact same deck, or have a card that needs to run in threes in every deck. Painful Choice, Sangan, Foolish Burial, and Witch of The Black Forest fall into the latter category. Allure falls into the former (Tele DAD). And for example Mind Master broke Water/Frog decks, which can be very tough. Mind Master is splashable and insanely broken in decks built around it. This page shows a few of those ways. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Tips:Mind_Master And back when Substitoad was legal Frogs were extremely broken.

Another reason why cards become banned is when they become so powerful that they're the only thing anyone wants to play. resulting in a monotonous and boring game. Inzektors should get hit pretty soon. Lol you really should've seen how good Blackwings used to be...There was a time where if you weren't using Blackwings you weren't winning any duels. Anyone who played during those days would tell you the same thing. And that's why they took so many hits on the banlist.

 

Luck, period...?
I have to say, I never had trouble with that because I dont pay attention to it when I duel...
I just have fun xD

 

if there were no luck involved the game would be worse. It would be like trying to make the duel arena without the fair play/deck construction rules.. it just wouldn't work. The meta would be the people who FTK every time, and there'd be no point to playing.
In other words, Luck is a necessary evil.

 

Remember theres no such thing as good or evil.
it depends on how you look at things that make things "Good" or "Evil"
in other words...they're just opinions.
in your statement, Luck is good to the game.
in Jaden's statement, it is not.

 

No I'm not saying luck should be removed from the game. I know that wouldn't work. I'm just saying that's it's flaw.

 

how do you remove luck from a card game? It's impossible, literally. You've got 40+ cards for a deck, and even if you had the perfect deck, you wouldn't be able to take luck out of it. It'd be like making Uno a game that you choose what you draw. It takes the fun out, and it's just completely boring. Luck is one of the biggest things for card games, and you've gotta live with that fact

 

In the words of my guild mates...
"Your mouth is flawed."
sorry, just bored and feeling random today is all...
Anyways, Yugioh isn't the only thing thats flawed Jaden...
many things are flawed..
we shouldn't complain about those flaws if Konami is doing their best to...
actually they aren't... Inzektors being made and all...Konami looks like a giant Trollface now...
I know 4Kids is flawed at anime dubbing...and yet you dont complain about it.
so you shouldn't complain about the game being flawed.

 

I hope you all realize neither of you guys is ever going to win this argument.

Jaden and brooklyn are both equally stubborn and Aqua doesn't have time to argue,Its just gonna be like running around in circles.

Jaden is always gonna see it as his way and so will Brooklyn.You can agree on small factors of thing but the main idea will always be different and Its really pointless to watch you run around in circles.
We all have opinions, Their what we think ,Which is based on how you think. You can't change someones mentality.

/#justlettingyouknow

 

Jaden may not listen, but if he's going to keep going like this, he really does need to hear what other people say. I don't know who taught him about yugioh, but it's not just skill. There's nothing wrong with a beginner to beat a veteran, if you can even be called that in yugioh. This game is never going to stay the same, and I think that's a good thing. Maybe it might be broken with all the new cards, but so what? They're just cards, and while you might not win anymore, at least you can still have fun and challenge yourself

 

*Glares*
you dare call me stubborn?!
well I am xD
I honestly dont care about this conversation.
(yeah...im not actually arguing about this)
I understand completely what hes going through.
its just sad that he says it like hes never going to duel ever again...
like he has no future for dueling anymore.

Exactly.
not only is the game about luck, some of those cards are based on coin flipping, and rolling a dice.
its not like its JUST strategy.
its having fun trying to figure out how to make a deck good that gives you a sense of achievment.
that is why competitive is for losers and stubborn people with no originality.
there is more to a game than winning, but to competitive players it seems...like everything >,>
I dont know what his "Mentor" said to him that made him this way...
but it just gets more and more suspicious how he only calls him by his title; "Mentor"...
thinking that this "Mentor" person is all knowing about this game and whatnot...
someone should go and beat the shiz out of that guy...for making Jaden think this way.
Also, he could just quit for a while and come back when Inzektors get either banned or limited...its not like its gonna stay like this forever.
its just that its a new series of Yugioh and all...and the new type of card (Xyz) are just coming into the game.
maybe they're doing what they did with 5Ds cards and make things even more broken.
"speeding up the game". (quoted from, I think, Jaden.)

 

nah. I'm not saying luck is a good thing. It's something you have to learn to deal with, and it really sucks when it's against you. What I'm saying is we can't do without it.

well, there's obviously no such thing as perfect, but not everything that seems bad really is. I mean, if there's a flaw and things get worse when you remove it.. well, either everything sucks, or that isn't a flaw in the first place.

I've already resigned myself to the fact that no one can really win an argument. Either one of them doesn't have a strong opinion, or doesn't care, or they'll argue to a stand still every time.