The Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Duel Arena 8.0!

but the cards themselves were poorly thought out by Konami. I think Konami's stupidity was referring more to the ban list.

 

Konami's stupidity could be both the cards themselves and the Ban list.
He said badly thought out "decks", not archetypes/cards.

 

Konami's stupidity IS both the new cards and the new banlist. I'm fed up with their idiocy. And that's why I don't play this game anymore. And all this game is is just luck...That's all it is...Am I the only one who sees that? A really bad player could beat the world's best player at this game all because of the stupid luck concept...And all this stuff about competitive decks always winning on turn 2 or 3 is a load of BS. I say those people are stacking.

 

by badly thought out decks i meant rather than have fun, theese decks are cheap, stupid, and really imo worthless because the player whofights them, and the player uing them aren't really having fun or learning a bit more about friendship, i lik to win, but a game is about fun, i dont think dieing in 3 seecents into the duel is fun *cough*Brooklyn*cough*

 

You do realize that has nothing to do with my deck right?

 

Just came across this and found it hilarious.

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[video=youtube;gdV74G6LPhA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdV74G6LPhA&feature=g-vrec[/video]

 

your one ur intant ko's are horribly unfun

 

So rather then making use of the side/extra decks and not even considering your own, you say that my deck, which Terra survived 5 turns against, is cheap?
So are you saying that using any deck affectively is cheap?
I guess you've never seen SOME cards out there >.>

 

your too hard to explain this to. you will understand

 

I will understand? what?
What I'm saying is, instead of always whining about how cheap others are, why don't you modify yourself to survive those things?
If your roomate is snoring really loud, can you tell him "Shut up!", or would it be the wiser thing to do just to get ear plugs?
(yes...this is such a bad example.)
maybe it would be easier just to say this; everyone is different and have their own playing style. complaining about it does nothing, but you can always have the option of changing your own deck or using the side deck.

 

Why should i change my style, my deck, or anything about me if i dont want to, i understand everyone wants to win, but back when yugioh was young, the game was not about a otko decks, it was about being ready for FUN card Game implying fun, if your roommate snores, tell him, and ask him if he can do anything about it, then if he cant, live with it, dont flat out be rude, i know its hard to sleep with snorers, but its possible without additives to get on topic again, if you only want to win, not play, make friends and have fun, your ego's gonna get so big that when one person wins your gonna get a shock to your core., end of line.

 

I never said you needed to change your playing style, nor did I say you needed to change your deck completely.
you're also seeing this the wrong way. I don't play to win.

 

matching a weak deck against a strong one will rarely ever be fun unless the weak deck's duelist is stronger; but matching two weak decks isn't as fun as matching two strong ones. Some of my most difficult duels have been using weak decks against strong ones, but my most fun duels have always been matching my Fables, my deck that I have worked the most on and has become by far my strongest, and my favorite, deck, against other strong decks. Not things like Inzektors, or the Wind-up loop, things like Jaden's E-Heroes, that fight fair but can and will tear me apart if I make a mistake. If I'm facing Heroes, I have to consider my opponent, and prepare for what they can and can't do, and take that into account with my own plans, and sometimes I guess wrong and it comes back to haunt me.. Against Inzektors, I just have to remember to be careful of hornet, and not much else because they only really do one thing, it's just one thing that's cheap enough to make them top tier. Inzektors and Jaden's Heroes and my Fables all have the ability to quickly kill a weak deck without any issues, but that doesn't mean they're all equally "unfun" it just means that they're all too strong to face with a weak deck.

 

[video=youtube;XU-nKVzCpss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XU-nKVzCpss[/video]

 

Hey Nemesis, Do you like the job I'm doing RPing as The Supreme King on the other forum? I've made him a TRUE villain. Much more powerful and more evil than he was in the anime. Course that's not really any different than what I've done so far with him when I RPed as him here lol.

 

Indeed I do Jaden. I figured the Supreme King/Haou was a rather under-developed character, that they could have done much more with...

 

my deck is not weak, using overpowerd cards is the problem. this is why i use to just play with my best friend because he never used otko's that end a duel quickly because the only thought is "Fun is achieved when you win. hey i like to win just as much as you, i personally think a strong on strong fight is fun, but strong vs overpowered dragons, inzektors like you said, or jadens heros give you no room for error, what happens if their is an error that you cant predict for, or you aren't set up for a fight that in the begening you have no fun with, i honestly would rather fight 2000 stall and burn decks which i loath than go up agienst the dragon cards that brooki uses. and another thing, since you cannot change or make a new deck for every occasion, being able to match up to the cheap stunts like a guy i just dueled dose is praticly impossible unless you use the same unfair tactics. game is a game where you want fun, dieing in1 turn is not fun, i dont have a "Weak" deck, people, have cheap cards, i mean xyz's really! i mean xyz dragon cannon, that was a fair card, the neo galaxy eyes or whatever in this world is called is unfair as of it, i didn't like the syncros myself at first, but i warmed up eventually because they were fair cards that were interesting to say the least, xyz's, they are a players wirst nightmare: Too Much power. I shall quote JoshScorcher on this "Give a gamer too much power, and they will abuse it." same go's for card games and any other game out their. give too mutch streangth, the users will abuse it. also, many arc types that suround themselfs around a solid defence (like i had) are blown out of the water because xyz's power is TOO GREAT! whatever the dragons that brooklyn uses, thir power and summoning is too great, blackwings, their power is large, because they can swarm the field with good quality monsters, but their is only one card that i would list under too much power inzektors too much power most of dueling now isin't aboout fun as it was in the old days, i think i will leave dn soon, and maybe pack up my cards for good because of how bad the game is now...

 

Ok...this is hard to break down, but the thing that caught my eye was:

Compare Five headed dragon, which can't be destroyed by battle against anything not light attribute, ooo!
it has dragon's mirror, making it fairly easy to summon.
and you're saying Neo-Galaxy Eyes, an Xyz that makes you not even want to detach its material, even though you wouldn't have graveyard advantage if you don't...is cheap..
Note: Neo Galaxy-Eyes can't attack if you use his effect and detach on turn that there is no xyz on the opponent's side of the field, its effect makes it have 0 attacks.

I'm going to comment on more of this post later.

 

I disagree with basically everything you just said..

power levels are all relative. Gene-warped Warwolf is overpowered if I'm using a deck full of normal monsters that all have less than 2000 atk, but in the real game, its main use is with rescue rabbit, and sometimes as a quick beater that dies in a turn or two. Something is only OP if it can destroy the majority of the rest of the game with little to no effort. I can easily kill Holy Marks with my Fables if I know that's who I'm fighting beforehand, and I can also easily stop them with negation. They are not OP, your deck is just too weak to face them. They are strong, and they are barely above the standard.

for me, fun is achieved when I can truly test my strength. When I first made my Fables, they sucked and I didn't have much fun playing them, but once I started editing, and adding new Ideas they quickly became as strong as I was, and even though they still lost about half the time, that was the point where I started having fun. Some of my most fun matches I've actually lost, but it was very close, and usually comes down to one or two cards. Winning doesn't matter. At the same time, if I don't use my strongest tactics and my strongest cards, and still win... it wont be fun.

I'm going to quote at you from a book that's specifically about playing to win, and tries to avoid talking about fun because it's totally relative, but I feel has some good points.

I suppose you have never seen my Fables fight Jaden's heroes. I can guarantee you that neither of us does anything cheap, and we have a great battle.. And yet, if I'm not mistaken, we can both take down decks like holy marks.

Brooklyn asked you to compare to FGD. I ask you to make a comparison to Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon. Both have 4500 atk, and if the opponent is using no Xyzs neither has a usable effect. The difference is that for BEUD, you need polymerization and three blue-eyes in your hand or on your field, OR Dragon Mirror in your hand or on your field, and three blue-eyes in your grave or on your field. Neo Galaxy-Eyes doesn't need polymerization, but instead needs all three level eight monsters, like blue-eyes, on the field. If they're summoned normally, that means six sacrifices instead of one polymerization. If they're not summoned normally, it usually takes either a lot of set up, or some cards to SS them.. all of the same effect as just using one polymerization card. And you might say "well, that's only if you have no Xyzs" but really.. it doesn't matter to you if you're denouncing Xyz as a whole.

If you ask the general player base, most will agree that synchros tend to be more powerful than Xyz. If you look at the ban list, there isn't a single Xyz limited or banned, but I can think of three synchros limited, and three banned, right off the top of my head. Limited: T.G. Hyper Librarian, Formula Synchron, Brionac, Banned: Goyo Guardian, Dark Strike Fighter, Trishula. Xyz are just easier to summon in most cases.

They're not abusing it, they're simply playing the game as Konami built it, rather than saying "oh, inzektors are powerful, I better not use that power because some people are beaten by it."

If their power is too great, by the same token your power is too weak. If Holy Mark can break your defenses, that's most likely because you don't know how to fight them. If your defenses aren't protected, why shouldn't a deck specifically designed to break defenses win against you?

Honestly, if you think these decks are so broken.. build them and challenge good players who aren't using them. If you win every game, you're probably right, and it may well be so broken you should leave. If not, there's obviously something more to the game than who's using that one deck. And if you play Inzektors, and lose to holy marks, don't just say "oh, well it's because holy marks are broken too." because then you're just defining everything that's dramatically more powerful than you as broken.

I'm not saying that you can't play with weak decks, or even that you shouldn't. I'm just saying that you shouldn't complain about a deck being too powerful because it can beat your deck. If you're using a deck of one strength level, whatever you define that strength level as, face other decks of similar strength levels. Don't face decks that are ten times as powerful, or a tenth as strong, and if you do don't say it's Konami's fault that the duel wasn't fun.

 

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wow ... all this over a children's card game?