The Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Duel Arena 8.0!

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Dec 29, 2011.

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  1. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Just looking over the effect of Hieratic Sun Dragon Overlord of Heliopolis (or Ennead), its completely broken. You can tribute monsters on the field and your hand and destroy any cards on the field? Such BS, like an overpowered version of Scrap Dragon (though Scrap Dragon can use any card on your side of the field, its only one at a time).
     
  2. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Funny how everyone says they're broken and yet this can completely cripple them.
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  3. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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  4. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    it's splashable, and you don't know how much is slows them down.
     
  5. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yep,He Can Slow down.But he can't stop hieratic spam.
     
  6. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    actually, he can.
    what happens when you negate a hieratic summon?
    no more hieratics to tribute=no more spam.
     
  7. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Hm... It Really depends on The Situation.
     
  8. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    if we assume a hand of six, an empty field, and an opposing roach, the only way you can possibly use Overlord's effect without sacrificing it is if you draw two copies tefnuit, and then another copy of tefnuit, or one of their two cards that can be normal'd without sacrifice and SS when tributed, and draw two cards that can SS by tributing a monster on the field, And draw another monster.
    It's not very likely, and Without Overlord's effect, Hieratic aren't very good.
    Assuming, of course, you're only using Hieratic monsters.
     
  9. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    ...........You're insane.

    I DESPISE this format. It's the reason why I've stopped Dueling. I don't believe you've heard yet but yeah. I don't play this game anymore. I've given up Dueling. I only Duel in RPs with my girlfriend now. I might Duel in the arena again someday though.
     
  10. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Agreed. Until Inzektors and Wind-Ups get hit, this format is broken (but then again, I dunno any format that has been perfect honestly) and pretty much is just a marketing ploy to keep people from buying anything for Synchro's and instead focus on buying stuff for Xyz.
     
  11. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Nothing Impossible to Make. Stop Hieratics For One turn. Next Turn >> GG. (If you Dont summon Another Roach,But this is very hard to happen,because a FEW, a few people use one roach,not more than that..

    Hieratic are a good Deck,But Flip a Mask of restrict against them,and feel like a God of Trolling xD

    I Know You Stopped Dueling Because Broken Decks.. Just use a Broken Deck too,or anti-meta =/
     
  12. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    you do realize I can easily kill Holy Marks right?
    set threatening roar, they can't kill me that turn.
    next turn I summon an OOParts and two Moai and hit you for 12,000 damage.
    With Machu Mach.
     
  13. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    the thing about hieratic.. is they need a lot of monsters in their hand to do anything. If they don't set up their field to defend, you can OTK them, and if they make roach use both its materials and then summon stuff, you can just destroy their field and they don't have enough material left to do anything. They can't make decent plays without monsters on the field or four cards in the hand. Additionally, only four of their cards can be summoned by itself without a tribute, and one of those doesn't summon a monster when tributed, so if you can stop what the one or two monster summons they get out of their hand, the rest is dead.
     
  14. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    But that's the thing, E-Heroes, Blackwings, Lightworns and Plant Synchro were the only decks that I really liked. I don't like the newer decks. And it's not fair to me if I can't use a deck that I like and if I have to always lose completely unfairly because of it. I'm not gonna play with my favorite decks only to watch them get mercilessly stomped on by all these uber cheap new ones. It's unfair to me if I have to use a deck that I don't like if I ever want to win a Duel. I don't wanna try the newer ones. This just isn't fun to me anymore...
     
  15. My thoughts exactly, i change my deck bit by bit when i want to, but i am not going to change my styles and deck to win
     
  16. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Of Course,Everyone Can Do.

    All You Say Is True. If a duelist Want to become competitive,he counters the broken decks[anti-meta],or he just use them..

    Its Sad,But its the Truth.

    Edit: The Only thing i HATE in This Format. Are the Traps.

    I Hate Traps,Omg. If your opp set 3 cards. they probably are = solemn's,compulsory,fiendish chain,Dimensional/mirror or bottomless.

    If you Pay attention,all this Cards Kill You....

    This is Why my Decks gonna Main 3 Mst,1 night Shot,And 1 Heavy. If It Isn't Enough,i'm going to main 3xmst,heavy,and 3 royal Decree.

    i really hate that type of traps -.- (if they are used against me,of couse -q)

    Lol>> [​IMG]
     
  17. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    there's one thing they've been saying that is very untrue.. They've been saying that it's unfair. I don't really mind Star saying it so much because he's been sticking to it, but when Jaden says it.. it's just annoying. Jaden has always been saying that we shouldn't play decks that aren't competitive, that decks like Crystal Beasts are worthless because they can't win in tournaments.. and now that his own preferred deck can't keep up, he doesn't say "I shouldn't use this deck anymore because now it's weak" he says "These decks can beat my heroes! Konami is so stupid and has made the game unfair!" Konami may or may not be stupid, but using decks like inzektors is, by definition, fair. Konami makes the ban lists, and players abide by them, and it's not like you couldn't use inzektors if you wanted to. If inzektors were something that could only be obtained by winning tournaments, and were tournament legal, then you would have a case for saying using them is unfair, but since they're equally available to everyone, using them is quite fair.

    You have every right to play your heroes, but I know that if someone was running around using something you consider weak, like Crystal Beasts, and after losing to you said that your Heroes were broken, and unfair, you'd call them a scrub. Please consider this before you say decks like Inzektors are "unfair."
     
  18. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    No I didn't say that. I was correcting you on how you were saying that certain decks were competitive when they weren't. At least I THOUGHT that was what you were saying...

    I play this game to win so to me good and competitive are the same thing. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    Well how would you feel if suddenly your Fables became obsolete and you couldn't win with them anymore? Would you still want to keep playing then? I'm not like other people. I only find a select few decks fun to play. But everybody else is okay with trying out all the new stuff that's being made.

    E-Heroes are very much a lucksack deck. They can be built well enough to be really powerful. But they have to beat their opponent really quickly because if they don't they're screwed, they can't hold out for very long. But their main problem is they're an impractical and situational deck that will only work if it draws right. Hopeless Dragons are another example of this. They have the most powerful ATK Card in the game (The Five-Headed Dragon) but they still aren't competitive. And the summoning conditions for all of their bosses are difficult and impractical. That's why FHD and Dragon's Mirror never got hit on the banlist.

    No I would tell them that they simply needed to work on their build. I'm not THAT big a dick...
     
  19. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    ...Your not a dick at all.
    Figuratively and Physically xD
     
  20. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    It seems my memory disagrees with you, so I'm going to assume I'm mistaken and apologize. There are two things I'm going to respond to though. The first being if my Fables could no longer win, would I play them? The answer is yes. I most certainly would continue playing them, just as I continue to play decks that I find interesting despite the fact that my builds of them don't compare to my Fables. The second thing is this statement right here:

    This is what has been annoying me. You say things like this.. And yet you say Inzektors are unfair.. and why? What is unfair about them? That they have destruction effects? Not sure what rule that breaks. That they have costless destruction effects? so does breaker, and I don't see anyone calling him unfair. That they can beat most other decks? That means they're good, and has nothing to do with fairness. If competitive = good to you, then why are Inzektors not a good deck?
     
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