The Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Duel Arena 8.0!

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  1. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    It doesn't go to the grave at all. What made you think otherwise?
     
  2. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    LET BROOKLYN DO CotW ON IT!
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  3. Beucefilous Kingdom Keeper

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  4. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    It's that time again! that's right, it's time for this weeks Card of The Week! This week, we've chosen to talk about Macro Cosmos. a card that apparently has a confusing enough wording that someone doesn't get it!

    [video=youtube;FUNS8hAALSQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUNS8hAALSQ[/video]

    Now let's look at the card.
    [​IMG]
    If you haven't noticed already, there's really not much to talk about...
    but I'll try my best to make it as long has possible.

    First, let's look at the last sentence of the card; "any card sent to the graveyard is banished instead".
    For those of you who don't know, this translates to "any card(s) that would be sent to the graveyard is instead, banished"
    This means that any card effect that would send/discard card(s) to the graveyard as a cost cannot activate because the cost cannot be paid.
    Note: Costs have to be paid specifically as the card says. If Macro Cosmos is chained to the activation of a card that sends/discards a card(s) to the graveyard, the cards will still end up in the grave because costs are paid immediately after activation so even if Macro Cosmos is chained to such cards, the cost is still paid before Macro Cosmos resolves.

    Now for some examples..!
    [​IMG] VS. [​IMG]

    Looking at Kristya's effect, it says "If this face-up card would be sent from the field to the graveyard, it returns to the top of the deck instead". This means whenever Kristya is going to be send/destroyed and send to the graveyard, it goes to the top of the deck. It is unaffected by Macro Cosmos and the like because Kristya's effect makes it go directly from the field to the top of the deck when it's destroyed.

    Next, if you look at Rainbow Neos...
    [​IMG] VS. [​IMG]
    If you look closely at his effect, he says "to the graveyard;".
    Not only does he specifically say to send to the graveyard, his effect is a cost indicated by the ";" after graveyard.
    Whenever you see an effect that's worded similar to that of Rainbow Neos's effect, it will always be a cost.
    Cards that don't say "to", ";" and "." are not costs. (may be missing one more.)

    Now for cards that discard/send to the grave as an effect, they can still activate while Macro Cosmos is on the field because it is not to activate the effect itself. it is the effect.
    For example you can still activate the effect of Naturia Butterfly even though Macro Cosmos is active.
    [​IMG] VS. [​IMG]
    Though since it says "and" negate the attack, since it was not sent to the graveyard, it does not negate.

    Finally, the activation of Macro Cosmos can in fact be negated by cards that negate effects that special summon, even if you didn't choose to special summon with Macro Cosmos.
    [​IMG] VS. [​IMG]

    and that's the end of this week's.. Card of The Week! we hope to see you next time for other card ruling clarifications!

    [video=youtube;D-S6FRJsGo8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-S6FRJsGo8&feature=related[/video]

    Edit: Okay, I think I've fixed everything.
    For those of you with additional questions, post below.
     
  5. It really dont work in a chain of events
    My field:
    Grave:Sprit burner
    Field: Let-The dragon race in def and a facedown spell or trap
    iTATCHI LIVES, WE NEVER FINSHED OUR DUEL BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CONTENUE YOUR MOVE, i CLAIM VICTOEY
     
  6. Beucefilous Kingdom Keeper

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    The definition of instead is basically exchanging one thing for another, in this case, you exchange it going to the grave, hence give it up, for it being banished. therefore, it never hits the grave and that is taken out of the chain of events entirely.
     
  7. If it ne ver hits the grave then how dose its eff- you know what, i just dont care anymore since i passed my french class! im danceing like mad!
     
  8. Beucefilous Kingdom Keeper

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    It doesnt hit the grave because you exchange being sent to the grave for banishing.
    Congrats.
     
  9. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Who's effect?
     
  10. Beucefilous Kingdom Keeper

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    See the card of the week post above.
     
  11. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    If anyone wants to Duel me I'll be on the other forum. It's easier for me to play there without making mistakes.
     
  12. What form????????????/

    If this were true, then my effect would work because i send it, then its exchanged to the bashed
    by a card effect that is not of my own, so then both would work
     
  13. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    What effect?
     
  14. Beucefilous Kingdom Keeper

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    No, because it never goes to the grave. It needs to be sent to the grave in order to activate the effect. If the grave is exchanged for banished, it never goes to the grave and therefore the effect cant be activated.

    Rainbow Neos when macro cosmos is on the field.
     
  15. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    /filler text
     
  16. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    I spent like two hours working on the Card of the Week and specifically put an example of Rainbow Neos vs. Macro Cosmos and he still doesn't get it..

    He either didn't read the whole thing, or he didn't understand what I was talking about..
    and if he didn't understand what I was talking about, which is explaining what wikia doesn't, how will he understand how/why it's like that?
     
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    Star refuses to understand logic >>
     
  19. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    [video=youtube;H2UtelFUTCo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2UtelFUTCo[/video]
     
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    Just repeat that endlessly and it's the Meklord EMperor Facedesk! Special Effect, once per turn, destory 1 monster and deal damage to the opponent equal to ti's ATk, however, you cannot attack the turn it's activated!
     
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