The Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Duel Arena 8.0!

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Dec 29, 2011.

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  1. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I was using my hero beat deck. its my new main deck D:

    that was a clan war,i have like 6-7 proofs :)
     
  2. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    you know, if someone mirrors you when using Hero beat, you could just chain super poly and attack directly after they waste a mirror force.
     
  3. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    not sure if you said that.....

    Mirror : Chain link 1
    Poly > Chain Link 2

    Poly Summons a Monster,Mirror still Destroy.

    The only good move you can do here is summoning shinning and get +2,or zero to get the raigeki effect

    o.o
     
  4. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    /stirke of stupidity.
    /goes back to sleep.

    Edit: hmm.. nvm.
     
  5. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    [​IMG]

    Lmfao FAIL
     
  6. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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  7. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Of course! i'm trying to get 1400 rating =P
     
  8. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Mirror Force could still easily be used to give someone a win that they didn't deserve.

    Nevermind I see what you mean now.

    Yep.

    And this is yet another reason why I don't play this game anymore.
     
  9. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    I was spouting out non-sense a few minutes ago, obviously.

    So.. that means the only thing different about rated duels is you get ratings when you win and lose ratings when you lose.
    also, it doesn't make that unpleasant sound when someone quits the duel, unlike in unrated.

    Edit: my brain was probably thinking mirror force targeted for some reason..
    alternatively, you could summon the fusion in defense so mirror force doesn't kill it.
     
  10. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    4990 . . .

    Sorry Lyris, Not enough time/post.
     
  11. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    That was lucky,if he activated starlight its was game.
    But,i was lucky enough to draw heavy at the right time xD

    this is a turn i call "all or nothing"
     
  12. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Why didn't they deserve it? If you over-extend to the point that you can't survive a mirror force, and you attack anyway, and they don't have a mirror force, it's a good move. If they do have mirror force, you made a mistake. If you expect a mirror force you can only invest slightly, and then even if they have the mirror force you don't lose much.
    When someone loses because of a TT or a mirror force after over-extending it's not because their opponent did something "unfair" and "didn't deserve" the victory; it's because they made a mistake and their opponent was in a position to capitalize on it.
     
  13. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    I typed something similar and left it on another tab and didn't look at it again.. I didn't really like how I said it though.
    well said!

    mine was going to be:

    "Who was the one who attacked carelessly without a back-up plan if they did get hit with mirror force? hmm..
    it's clearly not the guy who used it, since mirror force can only be activated when the opponent declares an attack.
    now TT is a different story, it can activate in any phase and it can activate in response to any player's monster being summoned, not just your own.
    but then you have to think.. would the inexperienced really be able to know when to use TT?
    would you TT a grapha after it bounces back a dark world to the hand or would you TT the dark world without giving the opponent a chance to bounce anything back for another discard?"

    Edit: ah, now I see why I didn't post it and why I felt like something was wrong with it..
     
  14. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    There have been many times in my videogames where I was just about to win but then poof out of nowhere the AI uses Mirror Force. Freaking Mirror Force...

    And another thing, How would you feel if one day you were using your precious Fabled deck that you put your heart and soul and all of your strategy and skill into and you're utilizing your strategy and skill and suddenly you're about to beat your opponent, But then your opponent who has NO SKILL AT ALL draws something like Dark Hole and ends up winning the game. It just isn't fair. This is another reason why I don't like this game anymore. I mean it seemed like Konami knew what they were doing at first by banning cards that can instantly turn the game around in your favor but now they don't seem to care about that anymore. Cards like Dark Hole and Monster Reborn etc. can easily turn the game around in your favor. A bad player could easily turn the game around and win against a player who was far superior to them because of something like Dark Hole or Monster Reborn. There have been plenty of times in my games when I was losing and then suddenly I drew Monster Reborn and ended up winning the Duel all because of that one card.

    My point is cards like these are gamebreakers and just make the game unfair. They take away strategy and skill from the game and make it more about luck than skill. And if the only defense in someone's deck is just a Mirror Force or a Dark Hole etc. then they don't deserve to win.
     
  15. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    things you can do about mirror force and dark hole:
    1. destroy it before you run into it.
    2. Royal decree.
    3. Starlight road.
    4. stardust.
    starlight and stardust are unlimited while dark hole and mirror force are.
    for dark hole, you can easily negate it. dark world even has a trap for it. dark deal.

    monster reborn, etc:
    1. solemn judgment.
    2. solemn warning.
    3. anything that can negate a spell/trap like dark bribe.
    4. D.D crow.
    if you don't SS from the grave, you can use cards like royal prison.
    for gravekeepers, they have necrovalley.

    Edit: dark deal can also work on monster reborn.
    and the things you can do about mirror force and dark hole also works against TT.
     
  16. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I've lost games to people top-decking Dark Hole. Back when BLS was just unbanned I lost a lot to a top-decked BLS. But that's the risk I take by choosing not to run traps, not to run the things like BTH and Warning and Judgment and Dark Bribe that can keep me safe. Instead, I rely on sheer offensive force, and try to hit them hard enough that they lose outright, or aren't in a position to strike back. If I leave them strong enough that they can play their cards right and come out with a win then regardless of who was luckier, they won. Sometimes I draw poorly and they draw well. That's okay, it happens, I just fight back as hard as I can and look for a chance to turn things around. Sometimes I can do it sometimes I can't, either way it's just one duel. If my opponent's only way of winning is abusing dark hole and they happen to draw it every game, that can get frustrating, but if they can make a deck that can draw dark hole consistently and use it to beat me then that's a win they deserve. It's up to me to kill them before they can kill me or use combos with Unicore to keep myself safe, and I can side in starlight road to help with that.

    If their way of killing me revolves around the grave I can side in Crows, if their way of killing me revolves around effects on the field I can side in veiler, if it revolves around SS swarming, I can use Cs to try and draw Gorz. If they have a deck that I can't stop no matter what because they're just stronger with it than I am with my Fables, that means I need to look in to editing my Side Deck to either protect against their counters, or counter their moves.
     
  17. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Brooklyn,Fred, You guys know Jaden is just gonna say he doesn't have time for this and leave, right?Say if he doesn't stop it'll just keep going?
    . . .
     
  18. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    We have a habit of doing that, don't we..
    it's not like we're not aware of that possibility.. it's just... *insert explanation of why we're doing this.*
     
  19. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    One sec, I'll get a quote of what I said to star after he complained about me correcting his spelling and/or grammar.

    This doesn't fit exactly to the current situation, but.. /doesn't feel like typing something
     
  20. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    So what you're saying...Is You hate me? I'm not worth you're time?
    Someone get a Mod, I would, but Mod's hate me, Mostly Ienzo, and Ban me upon sight.
     
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