The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 9.0

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  1. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Explain in more detail please.
     
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    LOL brook i lol'd
    heroes are a otk deck,did you ever watched jaden and his otk's on GX?
     
  3. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    They were playing with only 4000 life points...What do you expect?
     
  4. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    since E-Heroes are slow, you don't try to make them faster. you put in cards that slow down your opponent. TT, Mirror force, Bottomless, etc.
    with cards like Duality, shard of greed, and Card Car D, you get pluses while your opponent is slowed down to the point where they've run out of things they could do.
    then you attack with your heroes, slowly depleting their LP until they reach 0.
    Absolute Zero is an easy way to clear their front row of monsters so you can do this.
    with the addition of Masked Hero Acid, you can also rid your opponent of their backrow, making you less likely to be slowed down by their traps.

    what you're doing is trying to spam E-Hero fusions out as quickly as possible then attack for game. an aggressive play.
    but E-Heroes aren't made to do that. that's why people don't play Hero Gate. it's not of their nature to be aggressive like that.[DOUBLEPOST=1349835126][/DOUBLEPOST]
    if they were playing with 4000 LP, any deck can OTK.
    Gustav Max would be considered a one card OTK. malefic Cyber End and truth too.
     
  5. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Those people are just lucky. And if you try that against a fast competitive deck you'll be creamed. Violently creamed. I shouldn't even have to say how much bad hands and draws E-heroes can give people...
     
  6. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    it's true that they can screw you over with bad hands and draws, but they're actually quite good when built right.
    and I'd like to know what kind of fast, aggressive competitive deck would do when an E-Hero user opens with a a hand of traps, sets five face-downs and summons Card Car D, uses its effect and draws two then ends his turn. against wind-ups? TT. you just had your entire front row wiped clean. a -4 for them.
    they probably only have like two to three cards left in their hand while you have like.. three to four face-downs left with a hand of two.
     
  7. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Ever heard of Dino Rabbits?
     
  8. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Still my luck with them is just way too bad so I think I'm parting with them.
    Yes. What are you trying to say?
     
  9. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    heroes are the same thing, just without the troll Xyz.
    instead, they have an unnegatable poly that can be activated during either player's turn, a monster that becomes Raigeki when it gets removed from the field, and a monster that becomes harpie's feather duster the moment it's summoned with atk decreasing effects. oh, and a spell that SS's an E-Hero fusion just by banishing an E-Hero and one other monster in your grave.
     
  10. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    They don't win by being fast. Imagine you're playing E-HEROes. You open Super Poly, Miracle Fusion, Starlight, BTH, Mirror Force, Duality. Playing Duality reveals E-call, Fiendish Chain, Card car D. Now you have two main options, you can pick Card car and set your traps, summon card car, tribute to draw two, your move ends with a plus one, if they draw heavy storm or something you're protected, you can stop strong summons, and attacks, you draw two cards which could be something like a call or stratos or Dark Hole, then a third at the start of your next turn. The other move is call -> Stratos, summon Stratos, search Alius, (+1) set traps and super poly, if they summon something you have BTH or Super Poly to use, and super poly dropping Alius sets up a miracle fusion next turn for the shining.

    Now imagine your opponent is blackwings, going second. They open DaD, Shura, Sirocco, Gale, Bora, Whirlwind. They activate Whirl, then summon Shura or Sirocco for the search, you use BTH to deny the search. They're forced to end. You can then start beating on their LP, and continue using stuff like BTH and Super Poly to deny their plays, and if they manage to get something through, or draw Heavy, you have Starlight and Mirror Force to fall back on.
     
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    Judging you? I...I can't even comprehend.

    Know what, fuck it. I'm done. I try my hardest to help you out and you pull this **** some more. I'm out of this place.
     
  12. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    All right then, Jaden, I'll show you...
    This is the build of E-Heroes that I like. It's a slower, defensive deck, and wins because it keeps your card advantage and field presence as effective as possible.

    A friend of mine plays the build I based it on (mostly the same), and he topped a regional (got his WCQ invite with it) Also the sort of build most players at my locals use if they're playing HEROs (Bubble deck's good, but easier to get past because it's less defensive)

    (Before you ask, the Exterio + Dragon knight are there because I couldn't remember what else went in extra, plus you can super poly out of opponent Beast - Barkion lock *Derp Sams* as well as fuse with stardust + 1 Hero or one of their warriors for Dragon Knight)
     
  13. Itachilives Gummi Ship Junkie

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    ............. anyway working on my soul reapers for my rematch with rienzel :)
     
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    So...My Hair is now Aizen style. Just thought i"d state that.
     
  15. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    That's assuming I'm lucky enough for a play like that to happen. And I never am. And they're just way too slow. I can tell you from experience. Even if I do draw and use Card Card D I won't be able to do anything with the pluses I got till next turn. And by then it will most likely be too late. Take that guy with the Ninjas I was facing for example. Unlike me he was using a very fast and strong deck. I had some options left in my hand but I needed to survive one more turn in order to use them. And time was what I did not have.

    Card Card D is not a bad idea though. I see your point there. I can remember a few recent times when that card would've really helped me if I had had it in place of Maxx C.[DOUBLEPOST=1349883367][/DOUBLEPOST]
    Only 13 monsters? I really don't like those odds...[DOUBLEPOST=1349883417][/DOUBLEPOST]
    What I meant was you shouldn't talk like you've actually met me and know how bad I am at things when you haven't.
     
  16. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Needs More Fossils,and i would go 3 miracle + 3 gemini spark,and i would took out the Msts,and put more cards,you don't really need mst if u have 3 gemini spark,and more Hero blast to combo with spark btw.

    @Jaden,13 Monsters? Some hero decks play 7
     
  17. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Yeah I've heard of something like that before and all I have to say is those people are either insanely lucky or they're stacking...To be blunt I think that they MUST be stacking...

    My luck is always horrible when using a build like that...So many freaking dead hands in a row...I also run out of monsters way too fast...And all of the spells left in my hand are ones that are dead and can't help me...

    E-heroes are powerful yes but they're nothing more than just a lucksack deck.
     
  18. Itachilives Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Welcome to the dark side
     
  19. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    @itachlives:
    Hey Aizen. It's been awhile.
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    Up to your old tricks again I see.
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    If it's a Duel you want I can oblige you.
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    Awaken now Benihime!
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    Kisuke Urahara I suppose I can duel you
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    but with my Kyōka Suigetsu it won't be a challenge
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    Now shall I defeat you with my espada army or the soul reapers
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