The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 9.0

Alright then please tell me how the heck LaDD and five facedowns is beaten in non-random if you don't mind.

 

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Ppl on Ocg doesn't seems to agree with you.[DOUBLEPOST=1364700845][/DOUBLEPOST]

lmfao ladd is too broken on non-random
Summon him on mid game when your opp have like no monsters and two facedowns and 1-2 cards on hand[DOUBLEPOST=1364700944][/DOUBLEPOST]http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/326527661/
Top 4 of 128 ppl.[DOUBLEPOST=1364700996][/DOUBLEPOST]Now see this >
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Prophecy,Verz,and E Dragons.

 

*tries hard to restrain himself on the LaDD subject*[DOUBLEPOST=1364707677][/DOUBLEPOST]can't.. hold it..[DOUBLEPOST=1364709130][/DOUBLEPOST]

You: LaDD is broken in non-random. should be banned. those face-downs could be anything.
Me: Quasar with five face-downs is basically the same thing and it's not banned.
You: Quasar doesn't deserve a ban.
Me: you have got to be trolling me..

As you said in the above post, face-downs can be anything. I'm not sure why you don't see that in Quasar and five face-downs. The only reason I'm seeing as to why you banned LaDD was because of how it's hard to get around with five face-downs behind it, but the same thing applies for Quasar and five face-downs as well. If this is truly why you banned LaDD, Quasar should be banned as well or the ban list just doesn't make sense.
Anyway, I agree with Fred. if we take out the danger of traps, both Quasar and LaDD would both be fair in this arena. In fact, if we lowered the amount of powerful traps, it may be closer to the anime as you almost never see a character set five face-downs in it >.>
Perhaps if we got rid of almost all the powerful traps, it may be fun just spamming monster effects and spells with the occasion of situational-y traps.
If your goal is really to imitate dueling in the anime, there really shouldn't be such powerful costless traps. I hardly, if ever, see someone summon their ace monster in the anime and had it be hit with BTH or solemn.[DOUBLEPOST=1364710158][/DOUBLEPOST]

I already kinda did..
but aside from that, please tell me how the heck Quasar and five face-downs is beaten in non-random.

 

I look on there at the most recent tournament and it was won by: Fire Star, with a few E-Dragons added in >.>
Anyway, you mentioned Verz.. E-Dragons are so reliant on SSing level 7 monsters that Ophion and Crimson Blader shut them down hard. Looking at the second place, the only thing they can do is draw and use the discard effect of the big fire dragon, or in the case of Ophion, summon Pearl.. somehow, when their only SS comes from monster Reborn and Return from the Different Dimension. Added to that, even if they summon a rank 7 first, bahamut can steal it.[DOUBLEPOST=1364736211][/DOUBLEPOST]

Okay.. First, I summon Dodger Dragon. Then I play raigeki and chain Chalice. You chain Forbidden Dress? chain BoM. You chain lance? chain Chalice. Continue until you have run out of face-downs, and my hand is empty. End turn. Now, you have LaDD with 2300 atk and I have a monster with 1900 atk. You have one card. You summon monster, attack attack, *5700 LP* I set monster, you summon monster *attack x3* I have ryko, LaDD negates *1400 LP* I summon Dodger, run over LaDD *7900 LP* you draw a card and kill me with it. So that takes you three turns to kill me.
Now compare this to Quasar. Quasar can also do one negation per turn, which was all that happened in that game, will continue to have 4k atk, can attack twice, and can't hit your own stuff. Thus you will win the next turn.
It is rather easy to see that Quasar is the stronger of the two, even without looking at its ability to summon Shooting Star. So why does 1 LaDD + 5 face-downs get LaDD a ban, but 1 Quasar, 1 Stardust, 1 Stardust assault, 4 face-downs is somehow supposed to be beatable?
If you think you can beat one Quasar with five face-downs, be my guest. I'll even take summoning Quasar and setting three cards, hand 1, as my first turn. You can try to beat me.

 

Oh my God why has this fuсking debate started again? I thought we had already been over and settled all this crap and agreed that this card needs to be banned...

Alright look, Since none of you apparently saw let me point out that I said:

So tell me what other cards it would help to restrict please.

I swear to God if this debate gets started one more time I'm not even gonna..

But while we're at it how bout telling me how the fuсk I am supposed to beat that card with 5 facedowns? I'm not gonna Duel people here only for them to summon that brokenass piece of ѕhit and make it so I can't even do anything. Fuсk this. Apparently you all are okay with brokenass ѕhit and foulplay cards being legal here so maybe I should just leave.

EDIT: Well by leave I mean just not Duel here anymore.

 

but Jaden.. what you fear isn't LaDD, but the face-downs themselves. LaDD alone would be easy to get around, but five face-downs alone with a monster is five negations and maybe a spell speed two monster effect. If Quasar and five face-downs is basically the same thing, LaDD isn't the problem. it's the face-downs.
I vote to massively hit all traps.

 

Even if we Limit Solemn Judgment and Warning etc. this is still a problem. But wait, Do you literally mean all traps?

 

Yay an argument. I think this brings more people then all of the Picture fighting nonsense. We're like a soap opera to them, And the need to catch up on their soaps. Brooklyn is my favorite character. Ugh,Terra just needs to die or something, he's just there like ugh. I'm just saying if they keep Terra on, They are going to lose viewers quicker then American Idol. ...Okay, Maybe not so severely.

 

Congratulations,you discovered how verz is good against E Dragons
but what about other decks? So ppl can't even play another decks because they are just going to die to prophecy,e dragon or verz..Thats So cool.Unless you mix with e drags,like dragunity did.But still,E dragons are really expensive,REALLY.i think you can buy like 4-5 good decks with a e dragon full.Thats why some decks are still topping except prophecy/verz

 

Yes, all traps. perhaps even ban the more powerful ones.
I'm also thinking Droll & Lock Bird may be our ultimate game balancer. having it limited will indeed stop first turn fields ending up with five monsters, five face-downs, and a field spell.. plus six cards in hand.

 

I was actually going to suggest Troll & Lock be banned, simply to avoid abusing it turn one.
Set morphing jar, play prohibit veiler, set two facedowns, book of taiyou, Troll & Lock, double summon > Rai-oh > BoM on morphing > set S/T > card destruction > neither player has a hand.[DOUBLEPOST=1364763131][/DOUBLEPOST]@Rafa, When one deck is hard countered by another deck that is good, it is never the top deck, so it gets less popular, so people don't need to worry about it murdering them as much.
That means the only problem is Prophecy, which is going to be hit hard next list anyway.

 

Nop.Prophecy is taking Droll and lock bird and virus on All main Decks.Still Tops
Verz with a lot of cards to protect ophion and things to counter e Dragon,E dragon Still Tops
Your argument is Invalid.

 

That is, until your opponent points out how you can't play card destruction because Troll :p
oh, and even if you could, you can only end up with three face-downs, a face-down morphing jar, and Rai-Oh with that move. set morphing> prohibit veiler> set three face-downs> book of taiyou> draw five> Troll & Lock> double summon> Rai-Oh> BoM morphing> activate CD.
I guess you can just set two more face-downs before CD instead though.

 

You can't have more than three face-downs. One slot for Prohibit, one for CD.

@Rafa decks that main Troll and virus aren't strong enough to be good on their own, and I did say Prophecy was the problem. If verz decks can beat E-Dragons about 50% of the time, based on who goes first, and E-Dragons have an even or unfavorable match up against Prophecy once Prophecy gets used to them, then E-Dragons wont top as much > wont be played as much > will top even less > ect. Simply because Prophecy wont have as much trouble against Verz, and thus will win more. For that to happen though, people need to start playing Verz more, seeing that it counters E-Dragons, and the initial popularity burst of E-Dragons to wear off.

 

oh, right >.> prohibit is still there.

 

I never saw a e dragon lost a match to verz .-.

 

I thought we were finally over all this ѕhit and the arena finally had eternal peace...

But no. Terra loves seeing me get pissed off and watching me get made to feel like a big stupid fuсkhead. And nobody cares at all about me or what I've been through. And nobody even accepted my fuсking apology. I was literally completely ignored by EVERYONE when I tried to apologize awhile back...

I said I was sorry and I admitted that I was wrong to have listened to my former mentor. What more do you people want? Has nobody even noticed how much better I've gotten along with everyone ever since I was free of him?

I thought maybe you guys had forgiven me and were going to or had already started looking at me in a different light now. But no I should've known better...

 

Well, I'm not sure how they can win when they can't summon their good monsters and have a total of three cards with destruction effects in the entire deck.. But then I'm also not sure how many matches you've seen of Verz vs. E-Dragons, and I know that I've never seen E-Dragons beat verz, so..

 

E Dragons can't beat Verz. Ophion for game or steal their E dragon then Ophion for game.

 

Ignored yet again...

Please listen guys. I swear to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ that I am really and truly sincerely sorry for all the fights I had with you because of my former mentor. And if you still don't believe me even despite the fact that we never had any fights about "what's good and what's not" etc. ever since I stopped talking to him then I really don't know what to say...