What do YOU think?

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  1. Mike Chaser

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    I actually wanted to express myself and write something that was important to me. Does this seem to make sense? Lol

    Taking a look at the oblivion future, there's a whole new path that can be discovered. Right now there's this crossroads, but once reaching upon "that" place; it becomes warm and welcoming. If you can find yourself right now, your path has already been unlocked. Accepting who you are may be more of a challenge than having others accept you. Scary isn't it? The key to life is to feel natural and just live life like the way you want. There's nothing wrong with that. We're humans. Mistakes happen, but if we learn from them we only become stronger. Follow your heart and dreams. Don't live in a nostalgic moment. Embrace life! What are you waiting for?
     
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    It made me think of Chain of Memories. No, seriously, the whole thing with the crossroads and stuff.
     
  3. Trigger hewwo uwu

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    I didn't think it was possible but I'm pretty sure that post made me even more gay than I already am
     
  4. greater_bloo Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Sounds motivational. The "when you don't know what to do in life and are stuck looking to the past" type of motivation. Perfect for someone in College! Haha but yeah sounds good man you should become a counselor or something! XD
     
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    So damn cheesy.



    What do you know about life? Tell me.
     
  6. Krowley Moderator

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    Quote that came to mind;

    I've been having these weird thoughts lately...
    Like, is any of this for real? or not?
     
  7. Kites Chaser

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    hahahahahahahahahahahah true
     
  8. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    I think that someone trying to be intellectual and failing. Try to express yourself without flowery wording and be as clear as possible. Things like this either come off as intentionally cryptic or the result of an amateur mimicking those he perceives to be wise. Neither of those are good things in my book.

    It probably has something to do with a feeling that you have not had any major struggles in your life. It sounds... Superficial to me. Am I wrong?
     
  9. Maggy Gummi Ship Junkie

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    And what do you know about life? you tell me.
     
  10. Mathias Jay beauty is in everything

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    Uninterested.

    I'm stuck on a straight path at the moment.
     
  11. Maggy Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Makaze, I'd like to see you say something that will try to motivate someone and at the same time make them feel a little less like sh it and more like someone who should accept who they are and try to do the same for others. Although you might have some point about the "not major struggles" which I assume you mean something like death of family, homelessness, poverty or something to that extent, there are just as important struggles that affect self-confidence, positive thinking, and outlook on life which are just as important. In my opinion, psychological struggles or problems are more dangerous in the long run than something "superficial", even though I'm not saying that it should be ignored. You don't have to make yourself have a tough life or experiences in order to be wise, you can observe from the outside and try to analyze the situation. Most of the time it works better than if the person themselves try to accomplish it. It's always easier to help others rather than yourself, no?

    Please try to consider someone's intentions before jumping to critique, and that goes for everyone in general.
     
  12. Korosu Kingdom Keeper

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    By posting here, Mike was basically asking for criticism. And to be honest, I think Makaze could write better. No offense Mike, I did like what you wrote, somewhat reminded of CoM though. I understand the point your trying to make too, Atiragrame3.
     
  13. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    I have done so and will likely do so again. Each case is different, however, and I know all too well that what helps one will destroy another.

    He asked me what I thought, and I gave him what I thought. Nothing more.

    While it is noble and easier to help others, you should only do it if you can do it well. Mike has the will to do it, but I have yet to be impressed with his methods. I get the feeling, without knowing him and through his writing alone, that he has no idea what he is talking about or has trouble relating to the deeply depressed even though he tries to. I feel that what he says will not last or stick with the people he 'helps' because it is not different from what they could get from anyone else. It is a supporting notion and that is all. Fair enough?


    Thank you, Kelly; I appreciate the thought.
     
  14. Excasr The Forgotten XIII

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    I really liked your post Mike!

    I like writing what's on my mind too, though I can't really be clear about what I'm thinking... I don't really know what I think. Well, it's hard to explain, but you did a great job there! =D
     
  15. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Guys don't mind Makaze, he's just sore 'cause he can't write like meeee :V *brick'd*

    Mike, I'm gonna ask you an honest question. Several, actually. Are those your words? Are they words you like? Words you feel good about? Do they really hit you in the gut, or do they only sound good to the ears? That you want to express yourself is a great thing, but it's not to be taken lightly. Don't think in hypotheticals, think in experience. What is that new path? Where does the crossroads come from? What is "that" place? I've no doubt these all come from concrete experiences; give that to us. To yourself. Remember what Vonnegut says: "To hell with suspense." Lay everything out on the table if you wanna make a declaration. If it's important to you, you don't need to obscure it behind words like "oblivion."
     
  16. Maggy Gummi Ship Junkie

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    See, the way you said it less aggressive and more insightful. That is the difference. It's almost like you're using a helpful tone, if that makes sense. Makaze worded his response in a way that kind of makes him (Mike) seem like an idiot or something to that aspect, and to someone like him he may take it harder or more to offense than others. People need to be ambiguous in a way, that they can say something and try to not put someone down in the process. You can make a statement, opinion, etc. without it being like an attack or too straight forward. The way I do it is to nicely suggest something that can help, with, for example, the wording. Don't say "oh, well your wording is stupid or sucks and it sounds childish or cheesy. what do you know, la la la." Instead say "well, I think you could use words that are more of your own and express what YOU feel and not what something else does....etc" something to that extent. see what I mean?

    I like that you ask these questions in a way that helps him figure stuff out better next time he decides wants to voice something like this to supposedly help others, I say "supposedly" because I have a hunch its to help himself at times, and that's not a bad thing necessarily. Also, its good to just say whats on your mind, not borrow words. Although, sometimes when you want others to take your advice or take you more seriously, its an impulse to find other "fancy" words to make that come across.

    See how I can say something and not sound...negative? I know its just words but in a way its like i'm trying to talk in a calm voice, no attitude or arrogant tone, etc.

    Thanks, I hope it makes sense... what I'm saying...
     
  17. kitty_mckechnie I want to hug you like big fuzzy Siberian bear!

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    'Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.'

    So keep on eating till you find something you like!
     
  18. Excasr The Forgotten XIII

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Atiragrame3 again.
    Dammit. :B|:

    Yes, I really agree with that. I'm agree 200%, infinite%. It does make sense.
    Couldn't spoke this better.
     
  19. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    Okay, okay. Point taken. I stand by my position, but I need to be less negative. My apologies for being upstaged by Sforzato.
     
  20. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Would you think I'm crazy if I said you're making the same mistake he is?

    In fact, you, Mike, and Makaze are all making the very same mistake.

    You're at the end, and you haven't told us the beginning or the middle.

    Positive opinions are just as bad as negative ones in constructive criticism. Don't be hard on him because he's negative; do it because he's not giving us the facts. Interpretation comes from analysis, and in a critique, you're presenting your analysis, along with only the most logical conclusions. That, or you're asking questions to stimulate constructive thinking. The writer gains nothing if you don't lay out the fundamentals for him to see. You can do that by example, but it sticks if you give him the building blocks. It's the "teach a man to fish" principle.

    The same thing applies to debate. Your point is made all the clearer by facts to support it and a framework that makes sense; without these things, it won't matter how knowledgeable, how insightful, or even how right you are. There's a reason for it; that's the meat and potatoes. You've gotta get to it. Don't just give examples of how to do it right, explain why they work. Et cetera.

    Having successfully schooled all his homies, Nova sets off for his next grand adventure.
     
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