What do YOU think?

Actually, I keep getting the impression that you are perfect, or at least more perfect than the people you are trying to help. Perfect enough that what you have to say seems to only touch the surface. People have a lot deeper troubles than feeling inadequate, or being labeled because of their sexuality or tastes, or being disliked. It seems ridiculously obvious to me that you should live for yourself. Maybe that is why it is hard to take you seriously.

As I see it, major questions are left unanswered in your videos and posts alike (from what I have seen). What is it that I should want? Do I have anything to live for even without caring about others? Why should I live just to continue living? Why should I work so that I can pay my bills so that I work so that I can pay my bills? And that does not even step outside of internal problems. What if you are bullied or sexually assaulted? What if your parents are mean to you? There is a point where "live life for yourself" is not enough advice. That point is not far off; far from it, it is on you doorstep. People around you are struggling with problems bigger than independence every day. Do you have any advice for people who have problems beyond living life for yourself? Life does not become a cakewalk just because you stop caring about what others think.

I guess I want to know what that hell you talked about is and if it was solved simply by living for yourself. Because I do not consider anything that can be solved by changing your perspective hell.

But that is just me. See what Sforzato had to say first, specifically the questions in his first post. He is a lot less abrasive than I am and does a much better job of actually helping you improve. Sorry to rant again.

 

You are thinking way too much into this. Anyone who publicly speaks about anything to help people can be applied. Take a look at the media and even the president - they all claim you should be yourself as well. There are issues within issues. I can't predict with what people are going through. The first obstacle I'm trying to get across is to accept yourself. I'm not a signed doctor and have a degree in this. I'm not trying to be someone "perfect" as you say. I'm just a youtuber like others who is just giving advice on being yourself and that's it.

 

I get that, but you asked what I thought, and I gave it. I feel that the time for rationalizing is over. If you feel that I have no place to criticize, then do not ask for comments. I have thought things like this every time I have seen your threads, but I have avoided them because it was not worth my time. If you put any stock in what I say, then at least consider that you come off the way you do to me, if not believe that what I say is right.

Advice on how to live your life is serious business and deserves to be thought into. If I wanted to be especially cruel, I could ask you if you thought that telling Matthew Shepard to live his life for himself would have made it better for him. While I may be thinking too much into it, and your intentions are good, I do not have a high tolerance for rationalizations. If you want something less abrasive, please look to Sforzato's posts instead of ignoring everyone due to the ruckus that I alone caused.

I think I am done for the night. Good night, Mike. Sleep well...

 

After hearing what you wrote, it makes me think what I say on KHV is pointless. I'm trying hard to not think it that way, but it's plastered all over your reply. The Mathew Shepard case is something that really upsets me lately. If he wasn't opened about who he was, he would just be depressed. Eventually it could lead into depression and possibly a suicide attack. Reading a book by his mother (who is a spokes person and has changed the laws around the world today) also feels that you need to be yourself. Lately people who die from their sexuality is from killing themselves because they don't care for who they are. They're not accepting themselves, which is why I'm saying you should be happy for yourself. That is the message I'm trying to give. Growing up I've always hated myself and had problems for that. I still do, but I'm learning that you need to be who you are. Today there are less hate crimes than what there were in the past. I'm not saying their aren't any today, because there are, but still its better to live your life then slip into depression.

That is the only message I'm giving. Should I give advice and say don't be yourself? I don't really understand the big problem here. If you don't like my threads, I suggest you don't look at them then. I'm sure it will only have you disagree? Who knows...

 

It is not a big problem.

It is not that it is pointless.

It is that it is shallow.

It is hard to deny that your advice barely touches the surface of making life better. It is a very important step, but it is not good enough for people with real problems in their lives. Self-esteem is not a big deal to me, I suppose. It is incredibly easy for me to expand an ego beyond its borders. I do not have a problem with what you are saying, but I do not like the amount of credit you get for it; the number of threads associated with it, the subtle ego that radiates from you when you post things like this. I get the vibe that you see yourself as a gift to the depressed on KHV. If it is an act, then it is a slightly annoying one. What you say is not a radical philosophy, and it is not life-changing for anyone who already views their life as their own and yet still struggles with external and internal hostility. Our styles clash, I suppose?

I can avoid your threads and I usually do, but riddle me this: did you ask for only positive thoughts when you said, "What do YOU think?"

It seems you did not take my advice. Once again, if you have a problem with me, please read what Sforzato had to say instead, as it was far less cynical and may actually help you find with a way to improve.

 

I kind of agree what Kelly, Makaze, and Sforzato had said. But then I also agree with Atiragrame3 too.

To me, what Mike said touched on the first level of going into depression: Worrying about yourself, what others think, and how you should be the one to choose who you are and what you want to do. I mean, I went through my own hell before I joined this website because I was in a town that didn't accept me for who I was and I just started to tell myself "I'm stupid. I'm dumb. I'm not good enough for anything." And I was so, so alone.

So hey... what I see out of this is that he's trying to touch those that are on the brink of falling into the deep end of Depression. Mike, your words do touch others and it will help them, just not everyone. I've been through depression myself, almost ended my life a couple of times, and so much more but it's not my time to share it. To me, just following your dreams and being yourself is just too scary for me... because I've been thwarted to think differently about myself... And I hate it. Everyone sees me as lovable, open, caring, friendly, full of light, fun to be around, great to talk to... But I don't see that as me, and there's so much I hide from others. I would like to be what they see, but I can't. Not just yet. I'm almost there, but not yet.

But yeah... that's just me. Don't feel bad about the bad critique... do what you think is best for others, and just follow your heart to know what you want to say to everyone. And if you don't want others to critique you or your feelings... don't ask for it. Just post it, and say this is what I say and I don't care what you think about it.

 

Guys, it's never going to end between you two. Just move on.

Makaze, we get it. Just don't think too much about things; don't take it too seriously, its just a forum, and Spamzone, nonetheless, so just take things with a grain of salt unless otherwise stated. It's a turn-off.

Mike, I understand. For now, try to be more rounded and talk about lighter topics. It's good to show other sides instead of the same one over and over again, and i'm not saying it to make you change, its just a suggestion. I'm trying to be unbiased. It's good what you're doing, but if you get upset easily when people try to let you know what they think, then what's the point. Be the bigger person and learn to accept other's views, and I'm not saying that Makaze is right or wrong, again, just a helpful tip. Also a turn-off.

Maybe this will be clear enough for you guys, I hope?

Also, I agree with Rainbow-Dash. It's a good point

 

You realize part of why this is still going on is that Makaze likes to fight

Past a certain point he dips into pure semantics as a substitute for admitting he's wrong

If you just stop taking him seriously it makes your life a whole lot easier

 

Thank you Rainbow Dash. I'll admit I'm bad with being critique and its something I should work on.

I don't like that. Now you brought something completely different into this matter. "I get the vibe that you see yourself as a gift to the depressed on KHV." Give me a break! That is beyond immature to say. " I do not have a problem with what you are saying, but I do not like the amount of credit you get for it; the number of threads associated with it, the subtle ego that radiates from you when you post things like this."

You think I make threads to help people to only boost my ego? I don't think so.

Here's a little something I have to say to you. You know what the problem is with society? There are people like you who view too harshly on others. Someone can be trying to do something right and you can turn around into something different. In fact I think you are getting some pleasure out of this thread. The thread was about what others think about the thing I wrote. This just shows that you were overwhelmed by my other threads that you needed something more to give you the push to say that I'm just all about my "ego". It's obvious you have some sort of issue with me.

It's okay. I'm used to be attacked on the Kingdom Hearts community. As much as I love it, I can't stop but look at the grief I've also had since 2006 when I started. In 2007 I expressed my feelings on certain things and because I was "being who I was" I ended up being taken down. For big things and small things. I've always has an interest in Britney. During her dark days of her depression there were threads created about her in the media and spam section of other Kingdom Hearts websites. They would bash her and I would fully defend her. Although I defended her, I was taken down and there was a lot of drama. I felt I couldn't even mention Britney without someone making a rude comment to me or her. Since then I learned that the world sucks. That was only one little thing that I went through that altered my life. Not to mention the grief and torture I went through school. Being called "gay, homo" and etc for liking her. Running into bullies and being chased. Getting my a** handed to me for the things that I cared about. My life on the internet and in school changed dramatically. From then I kept a lot to myself. Big and small issues, but I wasn't happy because then I lost all passion for myself. So eventually I didn't care.

I grew up not having a social life - up until the past two years. Being scared of my own shadow. Although I'm still scared of what others think, there's nothing better than being able to say "I like this or I like that and this is who I am. So if you don't like me for who I am, too bad!" Having that attitude, I've been able to go on into life with a positive attitude because I now accept myself and could care less what others think. I fight for what I believe and that is the message I wanted to give to KHV. I will die to be myself rather then taking a path as "someone else" because that's what society wants me to be. Do you get the message now?

 

I got the message initially. You asked me what I thought of your message. I said that I find it shallow. Call me one of the bullies if it makes it easier to deal with me. Now what? Are you going to take your own advise and live for yourself, or get offended at what I have to say?

I have a slight problem with you though it is not enough to derep over, and usually not even enough to comment on. Trust me when I say that you are not being targeted or anything of the sort. The only reason you are speaking with me is because you asked what we thought. I took the time to read what you had to say, so I gave my thoughts on it. There is something about the way you carry yourself and the way you write that bugs me. I admit and will continue to acknowledge that my perception may be off, but I am getting the feeling that you are not bad off at all, even after hearing your story. I feel as if you are akin to a rich kid telling a starving kid in a slum that all he has to do is believe in himself and he will be fine. Do you see why that would be insulting? It is just a vibe, though. If you do not wish to give off that vibe, then perhaps you should think about what might inspire it in you when you look at others.

Now, look at Sforzato. He knows what is going on.

I told you to take him seriously. I told you so...

 

Makaze, If I ever meet you in real life, call the ambulance just for safety.


That is all.

 

What ever you say. You are right and I'm wrong. You obviously just don't like me. I've always wanted to be like by everyone, but it's impossible. So, I've been told. I will listen to Sforzato. My suggestion for you is to just ignore what I write for now on.

 

Again with the rationalization. I state that I could be wrong in a message, and in your response you claim that I will never admit that I am wrong. So far, I dislike the way you carry yourself. It has not gone beyond that. This is the first time I have had a conversation with you. I do not have a bias, and I am willing to consider that I could wrong. My opinions are here at face value, quite bluntly I might add. It is your style of helping that bothers me and nothing else. So far.

My suggestion for you is to not ask the forum at large what they think if you cannot handle harsh opinions. May you have good luck on future ventures.

 

Ati, I'm loving you. Not only are you oblivous to Makaze's personality, which is entertaining me with your responses, but you are direct, opinionated, unwavering, and at times, threatening. That is a turn on! ; p

 

Thanks for the support, lol.

 

On the debate? You two can fight like a dog over a bone till one of you gets bored.

Mike, however, I just hope you're not taking any of this madness on the thread too seriously. We don't know you well enough in real life to make a reasonable judgement of yourself, so don't think these words are true. Most are total bull.

 

Thanks. I don't think I really care anymore to be honest...

 

This is getting ridiculous, honestly.

It is said that wise opinions are the best opinions. It's probably because a wise person is assertive and comprehensive. If your thoughts on something sound like something a jerk would say, then you are most likely doing it wrong. Tact and eloquence go a looong way.

with all that said, what is up with the spam zone becoming the second debate corner? The ones responsible for this better cut it out ;V or you know, there's going to be serious punishments.

'Tis a general friendly warning. Be nice to each other, while being objective and fair. It's not that hard.

 

lulz .

 

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