Chain of Memories Why did no one but Japanese gamers get it?

Hehe, yea. It would've sold well here too. It's really a national pride thing. The Japanese made the game, they feel they deserve the better version.

 

I don't really care; we can already order the FMs online. 358/2 Days might have the CoM members' voices in english anyway, which is the main thing people are looking forward to if Re:CoM ever came out internationally.

They might release the FMs in english when they're finally done with the KH series (when Nomura has nothing else to do), but then again, I don't think too many people would be interested by then.

 

Yeah, it sounds very selfish, but it's right:(

 

Because the Japanese are selfish.

 

I love this response, because it's absolutely ignorant.

Did it ever occur to you to remember that the developers of KH are Japanese? This game is made in Japan. How is it selfish for the Japanese people to make a game just for themselves?

It's their choice if they want to expand the game overseas, but bear in mind that it costs a substantial amount of money to do so. There is no selfishness is making a game for just your country if you cannot afford the time or money to bring it to anyone else.

Their resources. Their money. Their time. Their country.

If you want to play this game so bad, *you* get off your behind and import the game. Square-Enix has *no* obligation to bring it over to North America.

As for the point of them 'making more money' if they brought it here, that's underestimating the resources that goes into bringing a game overseas, as well as overestimating the North American appeal for remakes.

 

Did it ever occur to you that I'm not a ******?

 

Could've fooled me with a hilarious one-liner like that, striked out or not.

 

Ok, stop the flaming. >_>

I think that is being a bit selfish to be honest.

 

I don't flame.

F**k off you stupid b**** a** c*** motherf***er.

The above is flaming.

The Japanese have every right to do what they want with things they own/make.

They have no obligation to service us in North America if they don't want to.

On the contrary, it is selfish of us to assume they need to cater to us.

If you made a video game in your basement for you and a bunch of your friends, then someone in China goes "Wow, I heard about your game and it looks awesome. Can you translate it in Chinese, redo the packaging for Chinese audiences, have it rated in accordance to our national laws and then ship it to me?"

If you said no because:
a) You do not have the funds to develop the localization
b) You don't have the time to make the localization

How is that selfish?

Kingdom Hearts is made by Japanese people using Japanese resources by a Japanese company. It is their choice and their right to only release their Japanese-made game on Japanese soil. Also considering that releasing Re:CoM in NA would most likely cause them to lose money, I really don't see how it's selfish for a company to consider their well-being.

If you want the game, import it.

 

what you said was true, but c'mon dont' be so confrontational when you're telling someone they're wrong, making someone look/feel stupid isn't the right way to get someone to listen whether it was intentional or not.

anyways back on topic, Square Enix's response was that they were too busy with too many projects at the moment which is true because they ARE developing 3 new KH games simutaneously.

 

Being part Japanese, how would you like it if someone took a stab at your nationality?

If you want to criticize me for being 'confrontational' (when I dealt with the matter quite cleanly if you ask me), then I'll criticize Haseo on the notion of being racist.

You'll spare no word for the racist comment, but banter on me about correcting others?

And on the contrary, I provided factual information and a clear-cut basis for my claims. I took no personal stabs at anyone's race, culture, nationality (which can't be said for what I quoted against "The Japanese are selfish"?), nor did I cuss or swear out anyone out.

What I posted is what you'd find in any typical debate.

The problem here is that a crap load of people on KHV are so soft-skinned and get all worked up over any comment that disagrees with them. I throw facts in people's faces and somehow that means I'm 'making them look stupid'? Please.

 

They can afford to bringing it here. And they dont have an absolute obligation, but they have to compete with other games and titles. They can make much more money if they bring it overseas, regardless of cost.

No, hes telling you to lighten the **** up. Haseo didnt mean to "take a stab at your nationality" and was most likely joking. It was a spam post indeed, but thats probably why he said he was not a ******.

And your calling us soft skinned? Your the one going nuts here. If you don't like something why do you put yourself through it? Log off of khv for christs sake instead of arguing with us soft skinned people.

 

Not really.

I've mentioned this months ago, but it's cultural statistics. Japanese gamers are far more into collector's items than North Americans. This is why Japanese people shell out hundreds of dollars for limited edition 5" figurines while most North Americans don't bat an eye.

Director's Cuts versions are optimized for Japanese audiences because the ratio of gamers in Japan who would bother to purchase a revamped game at the price of a full new title is substantially higher than here in North America. Also, the development of the game is localized (made in Japan, sold in Japan) which dramatically cuts costs for production.

Bringing any game to North America is a substantial feat and costs a ridiculous amount of money in comparison to a JP localization. Why do you think there are hundreds upon hundreds of titles that never make it to NA shores every year? Japanese developers only bother to bring their A-list games to North America because they're certain that their returns will meet the costs it takes to bring a game overseas.

When you bring a game over to another country as drastically different to the origin such as JP > North America, you're dealing with a whole set of expenses that are mandatory to go through. Hiring English voice actors, redoing lipsyncs, the game needs to be screened by the ESRB, and even after getting it screened, any corrections that must be made will then have to be redone/removed/edited which also requires time and money. Finally the repackaging and the sheer cost per capita of shipping each individual game overseas (something which is nonexistent in a Japanese localization) is another marginal cost that needs to be made back.

The hype for Final Mix+ is just not high enough for SE to profit from bringing it here in North America. Most people who bought KH2 probably don't even know Final Mix+ exists because only the fanatics would've bothered to go online and search hard enough to find out about it.

My point exactly. I've been nothing by civil but yet the people telling me to lighten up are the ones cussing in my face, lol. Rethink your cognition there, please.

Also, why do you assume I'm the one going nuts? Is it uncommon to thoroughly express one's opinion? I don't think so. Rather, detail is one way to eliminate questions that don't need to be asked later on.

More words on a post =/= "Omg, I'm sooo pissssed."

"If you don't like something, why do you put yourself through it? Log off khv for christs sake instead of arguing with us soft skinned people."
Nah. Evidently you haven't come across me enough on this forum because this is just typical Soushirei.

EDIT: And oh, I never specifically called you soft-skinned, LightningAmbition. I said a 'crap load' of people on KHV are, but you are the one who decided to involve yourself with that group. That insinuation has nothing to do with me.

 

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Ok, ok jeez. Though you did make a good point.

 

I fail to see how they would have lost money putting out KH:FM+ with RE:CoM because practically everyone I talk to in here or other places on line or in RL wanted the game. Even if they had just put it up on the SE site for people to buy and would ship it, they could have made a killing if they didn't want to bother with distributors and take the risk that way. Also, I think CoM would have done really well considering that many people didn't get the GBA version because it looked lame. Having this new updated fresh version to play on a home console made the game look like a whole new game really and it's more entertaining. I was pretty eager to see it come out in English.

However, even though I wish the game would have come out in the U.S. and other countries because I think it would have done well and I'd rather watch and play the games than just see cut scenes and dream or have to go out of my way and buy swap magic etc to play it...I am not going to call SE selfish for keeping a game in their own country. There are games made that are only distributed to single countries mostly due to the necessity of translating the stuff and note that they left a lot of the KH2 game with a lot of the English voices, probably to let the Japanese people hear them. If only we knew Japanese as well as they know English, huh? It's their right to keep the game and distribute it as they want and though it is a disappointment for those of us who really would have liked it, we have some options we can use and should be grateful we have them. It's kind of time for us to just let it go. I really think Nomura ought to just have given us all the KH2:FM extras in KH2 and as a bonus tossed in RE:CoM in some bonus package thing when KH2 was first released but ah well, he seems to be on this kick anymore. KH:FM wasn't really that great but this had quite a bit of info not included in KH2 and it should have been there. Any way, we can beat a dead horse to oblivion and it doesn't matter. Also, it's not the 'Japanese' are selfish, so I see why a couple people are getting offended by that. It is a Square Enix decision and it's a gaming corporation. We should blame the right people if we are going to get hostile. :)

 

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